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NZ Police Raid File-Sharing Site Founder's Mansion
ABC News ^ | 01/20/2012

Posted on 01/20/2012 1:13:24 PM PST by Wolfie

NZ Police Raid File-Sharing Site Founder's Mansion

New Zealand police raided several homes and businesses linked to the founder of Megaupload.com, a giant Internet file-sharing site shut down by U.S. authorities, on Friday and seized guns, millions of dollars, and nearly $5 million in luxury cars, officials said.

Police arrested founder Kim Dotcom and three Megaupload employees on U.S. accusations that they facilitated millions of illegal downloads of films, music and other content costing copyright holders at least $500 million in lost revenue. Extradition proceedings against them could last a year or more.

With 150 million registered users, about 50 million hits daily and endorsements from music superstars, Megaupload.com was among the world's biggest file-sharing sites. According to a U.S. indictment, the site, which was shut down Thursday, earned Dotcom $42 million in 2010 alone.

Although the company is based in Hong Kong and Dotcom lives in New Zealand, some of the alleged pirated content was hosted on leased servers in Virginia, and that was enough for U.S. prosecutors to act.

New Zealand police served 10 search warrants at several businesses and homes around the city of Auckland.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: sopa

1 posted on 01/20/2012 1:13:32 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Kim Dotcom?


2 posted on 01/20/2012 1:21:12 PM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: RoadTest

I know...what are the odds?!?!?


3 posted on 01/20/2012 1:26:07 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Smart @ss....;D

[people get *paid* for that file sharing stuff?]


4 posted on 01/20/2012 1:28:39 PM PST by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: Wolfie
What next? New Zealand passes a law saying I can't water my lawn in Texas on Sundays so when I do the US Feds arrest me? Confiscate my stuff? Throw me in jail.

The article says that the guy changed his name to dotcom. FYI.

5 posted on 01/20/2012 1:28:46 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Wolfie

If the hollyweird elite were all conservatives then this guy would get seated next to Mooschelle at the State of the Union address..

Just sayin.....


6 posted on 01/20/2012 1:28:47 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Wolfie
accusations that they facilitated millions of illegal downloads of films, music and other content costing copyright holders at least $500 million in lost revenue.

GOOD for them...! Piracy is cute and sexy. Pirates are SMART..!

When EVERY mansion in the Hollywood Hills goes on the auction block, auctioned away from the America-hating owners then...

I WILL DANCE A HAPPY JIG..!

Extra points if their kids starve to death or get hooked on crack.

Piracy is agent orange, and Hollywood Degenerates are the VC. They've made war on America for decades, and now the world is making war on them.

I HOPE IT REALLY HURTS THEM. And it WILL.

7 posted on 01/20/2012 1:33:17 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Salamander
The lesson I've learned from filesharing discussions is this: If it's easy to steal, it's okay to steal it. Who knew?
8 posted on 01/20/2012 1:35:23 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

The Climategate emails were first released on Megaupload.


9 posted on 01/20/2012 1:40:29 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Wolfie
Google owns YouTube. When can we expect GOOGLE to be shut down and its founders arrested?

YouTube is playing these COPYRIGHTED movies for free:

The Chronicles Of Narnia

Shrek

Armageddon (Been up for 3 years so its not like this is some quick post someone made that slipped by)

Silent Hill

Day After Tomorrow

Rise of the Planet Of The Apes

There are many MANY others. Why aren't the feds shutting down Google? Too big to fail?

10 posted on 01/20/2012 1:41:04 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Wolfie

When will the entertainment industry (RIAA, MPAA) learn they are in a losing battle? I’m far from being on the side of piracy, but this reeks of what a SOPA and PIPA future will look like if any form of it ever passes. They find something they don’t like and the whole site goes down.


11 posted on 01/20/2012 1:45:18 PM PST by roostercashews
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"..With 150 million registered users, about 50 million hits daily and endorsements from music superstars,...

Does anyone see the problem here?

12 posted on 01/20/2012 1:45:55 PM PST by moehoward
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To: icwhatudo

Please stop. I can go to the local public library right now and bring home the actual retail copy of those films and many many more films and watch them for free.

I guess it’s ok as long as the gov does it...../s


13 posted on 01/20/2012 1:52:02 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Wolfie

Shouldn’t they stop calling it file *sharing* and start calling it file buying/selling?

I’m so confuuuuuuused........:-|


14 posted on 01/20/2012 1:54:41 PM PST by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: RoadTest

“Kim Dotcom” sounds kinda like “Barry Soetoro.”


15 posted on 01/20/2012 1:57:55 PM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of Islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: icwhatudo
There are many MANY others. Why aren't the feds shutting down Google? Too big to fail?

From what I can tell Google cooperates and gets along very well with copyright holders. In many cases copyright holders have no issue with a less than ideal copy on Youtube. Sometimes they get free advertising as compensation. If they want it taken down, Youtube will do it right away.

16 posted on 01/20/2012 2:01:41 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wolfie
There was shoplifting done at my local Walmart. They should shut down all the Walmarts!

BUY MORE HOLLYWOOD MOVIES!
17 posted on 01/20/2012 2:30:51 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Wolfie
Extradition proceedings against them could last a year or more.

Great. Our generation has incarcerated 5 times as many citizens as any other generation in human history but that is still not enough. We have to import prisoners from other countries.
18 posted on 01/20/2012 2:45:54 PM PST by microgood
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To: Salamander
Shouldn’t they stop calling it file *sharing* and start calling it file buying/selling?

At a site like Megaupload (it has many copycats) someone will upload (share) a movie. You can either download it at a slower speed for free (that's where the sharing part comes in) or buy a premium membership and get it full speed with no nag screens. You aren't paying for the movie you are paying for the speed and convenience. The person who uploaded the movie is rewarded either in cash or credits that can be used to extend his premium membership based on how many people downlad his movie. He's not being paid for the movie itself he's being paid for bringing new users into the site. The owners actually don't get involved in either end, they make their money off of the premium memberships, which will probably be their defense. They do delete files for copyright infringement but 99.9% of the copyrighted material slips by their enforcers, which will be the government's case.

Even if you shut down every file sharing site there would still be multiple ways to get the movies. Heck, even Usenet newsgroups and IRC still share movies after all these years and advancements in technology.

19 posted on 01/20/2012 3:20:25 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Wolfie
Megaupload.com employees Bram van der Kolk, also known as Bramos, left, Finn Batato,second from left, Mathias Ortmann and founder, former CEO and current chief innovation officer of Megaupload.com Kim Dotcom (also known as Kim Schmitz and Kim Tim Jim Vestor), right, appear in North Shore District Court in Auckland, New Zealand, Friday, Jan. 20, 2012. The four appeared in court in relation to arrests made to Megaupload.com, which is linked to a U.S. investigation into international copyright infringement and money laundering.

i wondered what happened to kimble


20 posted on 01/20/2012 3:59:39 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: isthisnickcool

Stealing is stealing where it happens does not make any difference.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 4:17:03 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never had made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: microgood

Yes, true, in older generations we just killed them and saved on the jail fees.


22 posted on 01/20/2012 4:25:12 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never had made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Wolfie

There is a very old rule that if you are doing anything that even has a possibility of a major government crackdown, you arrange your assets so they cannot swoop down and seize everything.

You might live in a mansion, but you don’t own it. You don’t own the cars you drive or are driven in. 100 employees and servants work for you, but they are not *your* employees and servants. Optimally, you do not have a lofty title, but are just an employee yourself.

Your declared annual wages should be little more than minimum wage, even if you *theoretically* are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Even the vast majority of people think that some actor is the real boss, though their job is just to act, not to actually know or do anything other than follow orders.

You don’t do business where you live, your business building is a rental, and with the remote touch of a button all your computer memory and storage are wiped, and your entire operation goes to a “jump HQ” in another country, where all it has done previously is archive everything.

Hopefully, no matter where the police arrive, or when, they will just be greeted by a phalanx of ambitious lawyers and video cameras.


23 posted on 01/20/2012 4:37:02 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: org.whodat
Stealing is stealing where it happens does not make any difference.

That was not the point. Using that logic then I suppose you would agree the Americans fall under the laws of New Zealand or fall under moslem sharia law for that matter.

24 posted on 01/20/2012 5:56:17 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Wolfie

For Americans concerned about SOPA—those that support SOPA actually ENABLED/DISTRIBUTED piracy software!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc&feature=related


25 posted on 01/20/2012 6:39:14 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Wolfie

It’s not illegal to file share.


26 posted on 01/20/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: isthisnickcool

If you steal off of someone in new Zealand, and/or you steal off of someone in Saudi, you are damn straight, they can do with you as they wish. Where in the hell did you get the ideal that your birth and/or place you live exempts you from civilization.


27 posted on 01/20/2012 7:08:48 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never had made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: org.whodat
If you steal off of someone in new Zealand, and/or you steal off of someone in Saudi, you are damn straight, they can do with you as they wish. Where in the hell did you get the ideal that your birth and/or place you live exempts you from civilization.

Ideal? How about idea? I got mine from the United States Constitution.....

28 posted on 01/20/2012 8:32:32 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Too much hassle.

I’ll stick with NetFlix.

;D


29 posted on 01/20/2012 9:32:38 PM PST by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Wrong on both accounts.


30 posted on 01/21/2012 12:50:17 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: org.whodat

By your way of thinking Mexico could solve the US immigration problem by passing a Mexican law saying that illegals in America are US citizens. Then the Justice department would happily enforce it.


31 posted on 01/21/2012 5:15:53 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: isthisnickcool
Wrong, how old are you, have you ever gone to school above the sixth grade. We have treaty's and extradition agreements with just about every country in the world. All made by your authorized representatives. All legal and all binding upon all citizens.
32 posted on 01/21/2012 7:54:21 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: org.whodat

Good points. I was wrong headed about this. I get tweaked up when I see a business shut down without what I consider to be due process.

What this does prove is that there is no need for the SOPA, etc. laws that are being pushed.


33 posted on 01/21/2012 8:16:40 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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