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Robert E. Lee: Remembering an American Legend
Cumming Home ^ | January 20, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 01/20/2012 3:28:33 PM PST by BigReb555

Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C., told the audience in Atlanta, Georgia during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, ‘Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.’

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Sir Winston Churchill once remarked, ‘Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war.’

Dear students, teachers, parents, church, community leaders, historians and folks everywhere,

January is the birthday month of War Between the States Generals; James Longstreet born on January 8, 1821, Thomas Jonathan ‘Stonewall’ Jackson born on January 21, 1824, George Pickett born on January 28, 1825 and

Thursday, January 19, 2012, is the 205th birthday of General Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of people everywhere.

Many events are planned around the nation that include….

The Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans Robert E. Lee Birthday Celebration in Milledgeville, Georgia on Saturday, January 21, 2012, in the Old Legislative Chambers of the Old State Capitol Building at 11 AM. A Parade will begin at 10:45 AM from the Old Governor’s Mansion to the Old Legislative Chambers.

Did you know that….

During Robert E. Lee’s 100th birthday in 1907, Charles Francis Adams, Jr., a former Union Commander and grandson of US President John Quincy Adams, spoke in tribute to Robert E. Lee at Washington and Lee College’s Lee Chapel in Lexington, Virginia? His speech was printed in both Northern and Southern newspapers and is said to had lifted Lee to a renewed respect among the American people.

Who was Robert E. Lee?

Robert E. Lee, a man whose military tactics have been studied worldwide, was an American soldier, Educator, Christian gentlemen, husband and father.

Robert E. Lee was born on Jan. 19, 1807, at ‘Stratford’ in Westmoreland County, Virginia. The winter was cold and the fireplaces were little help for Robert’s mother, Ann Hill (Carter) Lee, who suffered from a severe cold.

Ann Lee named her son ‘Robert Edward’ after two of her brothers.

Robert E. Lee undoubtedly acquired his love of country from those who lived during the American Revolution. His Father, ‘Light Horse’ Harry was a hero of the revolution and served three terms as governor of Virginia and as a member of the United States House of Representatives. Two members of his family also signed the Declaration of Independence.

Lee was educated at the schools of Alexandria, Va., and he received an appointment to the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1825. He graduated in 1829, second in his class and without a single demerit.

Robert E. Lee’s first assignment was to Cockspur Island, Georgia, to supervise the construction of Fort Pulaski.

While serving as 2nd Lieutenant of Engineers at Fort Monroe, Va., Lee wed Mary Ann Randolph Custis. Robert and Mary had grown up together, Mary was the daughter of George Washington Parke Custis, the Grandson of Martha Washington and adopted son of George Washington.

Mary was an only child; therefore, she inherited Arlington House, across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C., where she and Robert E. Lee raised seven children.

In 1836, Lee was appointed to first Lieutenant. In 1838, with the rank of Captain, Robert E. Lee fought in the War with Mexico and was wounded at the Battle of Chapultepec.

Lee was appointed Superintendent of the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1852.

Gen. Winfield Scott offered Lee command of the Union army to Lee on April 17, 1861, but he refused. He said, ‘I cannot raise my hand against my birthplace, my home, my children.’

The Custis-Lee Mansion ‘Arlington House’ would be occupied by Federals, who would turn the estate into a war cemetery. Today Arlington House is preserved by the National Park Service as a Memorial to Robert E. Lee. http://www.nps.gov/arho/

Lee served as adviser to President Jefferson Davis, and then on June 1, 1862, commanded the legendary Army of Northern Virginia.

After four years of death and destruction, Gen. Robert E. Lee met Gen. Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Courthouse in Virginia and ended their battles.

In the fall of 1865, Lee was offered and accepted the presidency of troubled Washington College in Lexington, Virginia. It is today Washington and Lee University.

Lee was called Marse Robert, Uncle Robert and Marble Man.

Robert E. Lee died of a heart attack at 9:30 AM on the morning of October 12, 1870, at Washington College where he is buried at Lee Chapel.

Dr. Edward C. Smith, respected African-American Professor of History at American University in Washington, D.C., told the audience in Atlanta, Georgia during a 1995 Robert E. Lee birthday event, ‘Dr. Martin Luther King and Robert E. Lee were individuals worthy of emulation because they understood history.’

On August 5, 1975, 110 years after Gen. Lee's application, President Gerald Ford signed Joint Resolution 23, restoring the long overdue full rights of citizenship to Gen. Robert E. Lee. Read more at: www.ford.utexas.edu/library/speeches/750473.htm

Lest We Forget!

1 posted on 01/20/2012 3:28:37 PM PST by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555

Oh, good-ee! A reason to pop some corn! Let the games begin.....


2 posted on 01/20/2012 3:36:10 PM PST by momtothree
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To: BigReb555
Great General but too bad he made terrible choices about his loyalty to his country. Or maybe America was not his country.
3 posted on 01/20/2012 3:40:10 PM PST by fish hawk (Tebow or Rodman, who would I like to introduce my grandson to? MMmmmmmm)
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To: BigReb555


4 posted on 01/20/2012 3:47:58 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: fish hawk
Before the civil war people would say "The United States are...", after the civil war people say "The United States is...". The idea of states rights, and hence the original meaning of the constitution, was lost. Slavery would have ended regardless of the outcome of the war due to its immorality. The north's victory made it easier to ignore the constitution from then on...and you can see where that has gotten us.

ps, I'm an old history loving northerner, disagree if you must, I'm used to it and am old enough now to not care.

5 posted on 01/20/2012 3:52:15 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BigReb555

“Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less.” - Robert E. Lee


6 posted on 01/20/2012 3:53:48 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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7 posted on 01/20/2012 3:54:02 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BigReb555

This is the third time in three weeks that you’ve posted this exact same story. Before that, you posted another story twice in two weeks. In fact, glancing at your the first pages of your old posts, it’s a rare story that you HAVEN’T posted more than once in the space of a couple of weeks. What’s up with that?


8 posted on 01/20/2012 3:57:21 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: BigReb555

“That old man...had my division massacred at Gettysburg!”
George Pickett


9 posted on 01/20/2012 4:02:05 PM PST by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

His name answers your question.


10 posted on 01/20/2012 4:04:55 PM PST by fish hawk (Tebow or Rodman, who would I like to introduce my grandson to? MMmmmmmm)
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To: Valin

Lee did lose Gettysburg. Had he taken the high ground immediately upon arriving the South would have won that battle. The North was very dispirited at that time and public sentiment was going against Lincoln. The North’s victory breathed new life into his supporters. Even so, Joshua Chamberlain and the 20th Maine salvaged the victory before Pickett’s charge became necessary.


11 posted on 01/20/2012 4:07:12 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
This is the third time in three weeks that you’ve posted this exact same story.

Originally Published Jan 19, 2012, 11:17pm (Updated Jan 19, 2012, 11:19pm)

We may be dealing with a time traveler here...or you are mistaken.

12 posted on 01/20/2012 4:19:43 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Bingo. It’s why I put Lincoln down as the worst president in our history, so far. So many people murdered to eliminate states rights. Not slavery. As we are now all slaves to a federal government that dictates to us and our individual states.

He nearly destroyed this country. He may yet, from the grave.


13 posted on 01/20/2012 4:24:53 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: gorush
Click on BigReb's posting history. link

Robert E. Lee: Remembering an American Legend
January 20, 2012 3:28:37 PM PST · 1 of 13
BigReb555

Sir Winston Churchill once remarked, ‘Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war.’ Dear students, teachers, parents, church, community leaders, historians and folks everywhere,

Robert E. Lee: Remembering an American Legend
January 16, 2012 10:19:41 AM PST · 1 of 69
BigReb555

Sir Winston Churchill once remarked, ‘Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war.’ Dear students, teachers, parents, church, community leaders, historians and folks everywhere,

Robert E. Lee: Remembering an American Legend
January 4, 2012 4:35:44 PM PST · 1 of 88
BigReb555

Sir Winston Churchill once remarked, ‘Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war.’ Dear students, teachers, parents, church, community leaders, historians and folks everywhere,

14 posted on 01/20/2012 4:38:29 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: BigReb555
Sir Winston Churchill once remarked, ‘Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived
Noblest, really?
A man who voluntarily choose to take up arms against the United States of America?
A man who fought to preserve slavery?
A man more noble than George Washington?
The whole article is bull$hit.
15 posted on 01/20/2012 4:39:29 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
So apparently the same article was printed by numerous outlets and Big Reb had the audacity to post them all. Oh well, history doesn't offend me and I'm glad I at least saw this one. I wish more people would post articles about Stonewall Jackson, now there was a man! :{)

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16 posted on 01/20/2012 4:48:39 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Maybe you should post the same article about Stonewall over and over again.


17 posted on 01/20/2012 4:50:58 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: oh8eleven

Did you know that Doctor Doctor Bliss (yes, his first name really was Doctor) attended both Lincoln and Garfield on their death beds? His probing of Garfield’s wound was done at a time when a fellow named Lister was trying to convince doctors of the desirability of antiseptic surgery. Garfield suffered for two and a half months from infections caused by his probings before he died. After the autopsy the American people gave new meaning to the saying “Ignorance is Bliss”...effectively ending Bliss’ career. I forget what brought this story to mind...:{)


18 posted on 01/20/2012 4:59:17 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I don’t have an article about Stonewall, only the many books I have read. If I were you I wouldn’t read them, they would only cause you to question some of your preconceived biases.


19 posted on 01/20/2012 5:01:32 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

“Oops”—18th North Carolina


20 posted on 01/20/2012 5:28:48 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: oh8eleven

You are an angry old man. I hope you find peace.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 5:43:00 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Valin

Mosby replied, “Well, it made you famous.”


22 posted on 01/20/2012 6:56:45 PM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: BigReb555
“Lest We Forget”

Nor let us forget he was a traitor to his country, fighting to maintain the “right” for a small minority to keep human beings as property.

He caused thousands and thousands of casualties.

He lost and surrendered in disgrace.

LEST WE FORGET!

23 posted on 01/20/2012 7:11:31 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

24 posted on 01/20/2012 7:14:24 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Valin
“That old man...had my division massacred at Gettysburg!”

George Pickett

Lee was man of honor.

Picket was a scumbag war criminal.

25 posted on 01/20/2012 7:29:58 PM PST by Castlebar
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To: gorush

Good post. Wish more Northerners on these threads were of your sort. Instead we are plagued with haters.


26 posted on 01/20/2012 7:49:09 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: oh8eleven

George Washington voluntarily took up arms against the existing legal government, a traitor to the Crown in a war of secession against the United Kingdom.

The Royal Governor of Virginia declared that any slave who would fight for the Crown would be emancipated. A fact that put Washington, a slaveowner, in the position of fighting to preserve slavery. The descendants of Martha Washington’s slaves were inherited by Lee’s wife, who was Martha’s great granddaughter.

George Washington: First in War, First in Peace, and First in the Hearts of Nine Percent of his Countrymen, a phrase coined by Robert E Lee’s own father, General Henry “Lighthorse Harry” Lee.

Perhaps you’re going to have to throw Washington under the bus in order to remain consistent.


27 posted on 01/20/2012 8:09:21 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Jacquerie

You don’t - and can’t - repudiate my comments so you default to the loser Leftist tactic of a personal attack. How DU of you.


28 posted on 01/21/2012 5:39:25 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: gorush
"Ignorance is Bliss”...effectively ending Bliss’ career. I forget what brought this story to mind.
It was your own ignorance and inability to deal with the truth.
29 posted on 01/21/2012 5:42:41 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: gorush

You are quite correct.


30 posted on 01/21/2012 5:43:23 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Pelham
Perhaps you’re going to have to throw Washington under the bus in order to remain consistent.
Perhaps you're going to have to learn how not to twist history to cover for Bobby Lee's treason.
Even if one claims he was a great general, the CSA failed and he was the loser in charge. End of fable.
31 posted on 01/21/2012 5:51:48 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Pelham
Fortunately there are enough intelligent Northerners who deal with the realities of 1865.

What I find ironic here on FR are those who speak of Lee and such as traitors. They were loyal to the government they were supposed to under the Constitution, their State (as in the United “States”) So it is rather odd to see conservatives who speak of the Constitution and states rights to take issue with Lee's actions.

Today given the number of Yanks in the South who live here to escape the crumbling cities and such of the North I truly wonder who lost the war in the end...

32 posted on 01/21/2012 6:01:59 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: oh8eleven
A man who voluntarily choose to take up arms against the United States of America? A man who fought to preserve slavery? A man more noble than George Washington? The whole article is bull$hit.

Marines get a rap for being below average in IQ, your posts don't help alleviate that impression.

33 posted on 01/21/2012 6:10:12 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: starlifter
LEST WE FORGET!

Only the stupid could forget the tyranny that Lincoln's war bequeathed this once great republic. Sic semper tyrannis.

34 posted on 01/21/2012 6:24:07 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Ignorant Leftists, haters and DUmmies, deservedly get a bad rap because they can't argue the facts and always respond with personal attacks.
That you would besmirch my Marine Corps and my honorable service to America speaks volumes to your total lack of character.
I'd go into combat (again!) with the dumbest private in the Corps over a battalion of "smart" people like you.
You wouldn't make a pimple on a good Marine's @ss.
35 posted on 01/21/2012 6:32:27 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Looks like some of your fellow jarheads had a different view of the Confederacy.

36 posted on 01/21/2012 6:46:22 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I usually find that when a Yankee starts talking smack about the south and such that a Southern girl once broke his heart.

Of course we Southern boys can understand that to some degree and have some pity for the poor fool...


37 posted on 01/21/2012 8:03:56 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: BigReb555

Even more sockpuppetry BigReb555? How unbecoming of you. How many times are you going to post this crap?


38 posted on 01/21/2012 8:17:35 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: gorush

I’m an old history loving southerner and my views have evolved over decades until they seem to fit exactly with what you have expressed. I am descended from confederate veterans on both sides of the family and have never personally known a black person who shared my surname or the maiden name of my mother. My paternal great grandfather, born 100 years before me, did not fight to preserve slavery, he was a poor man who never owned a slave. He fought in vain trying to defend his homeland. When I think of Lincoln’s words about preserving the union I am reminded of the words of the officer in Vietnam who said that the village had to be destroyed in order to save it.


39 posted on 01/21/2012 8:27:59 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: central_va
I've never understood how descendents of losers, like the CSA, could be
so stupid to still be fighting a war they lost over one hundred years ago.
Now I know ... it's in the genes.

40 posted on 01/21/2012 8:43:28 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I've never understood how descendents of losers, like the CSA, could be so stupid to still be fighting a war they lost over one hundred years ago.

The war never ended, the Federal Govt's onslaught against individual freedom and states rights continues to this day. It continues abetted with the help of ignorant stooges such as yourself who no nothing of the history of the republic, exploited by the Federal Government its quest for domination.

41 posted on 01/21/2012 8:52:49 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: oh8eleven

You are a disgrace.


42 posted on 01/21/2012 8:58:20 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: ejonesie22

“Today given the number of Yanks in the South who live here to escape the crumbling cities and such of the North I truly wonder who lost the war in the end...”
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In my opinion the whole USA lost that war, it was not fought for the reasons that most people believe and it led to the loss of freedom all over the country. The South took the worst of it in the fighting only because of being very much outnumbered and under-supplied but the whole country has paid for it and continues to pay for it ever since. A good rule of thumb is to remember that people’s motives are seldom as noble as they pretend and this seems to apply without exception, anything to the contrary is most likely a matter of degree.


43 posted on 01/21/2012 9:55:05 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: oh8eleven
Ahhh...

The ole “Southerners be stupid” bit...

From a guy yelling about personal attacks, haters and DU tactics...

I love irony.

Yes, I even know what that word means and am reading this while wearing shoes...

44 posted on 01/21/2012 10:31:13 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: RipSawyer

You make a good point...

Sadly...


45 posted on 01/21/2012 10:31:35 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22
The ole “Southerners be stupid” bit...

Actually, it started as the old "USMC be stupid" posted by a pos America hater before you joined in. -btw I'm wearing shoes also, they're size 12 with steel toes.

46 posted on 01/21/2012 2:11:51 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
No actually it started with calling General Lee a traitor, something not even his Northern opponents did.

But why get mired in details.

Oh strangely enough I happen to have on steel toed boots now myself.

47 posted on 01/21/2012 2:24:45 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: gorush; fish hawk; BigReb555; rockrr; Bubba Ho-Tep
gorush: "Before the civil war people would say "The United States are...", after the civil war people say "The United States is...". "

A big item in the old Lost Causer myth.
In fact from the beginning, the "United States" was usually but not always referred to as plural, and this continued well into the late 1800s, and even occasionally in Supreme Court documents as late as 1935.

But the first reference to the United States as singular is in Article III, Section 5 of the Constitution:

"The judicial Power shall extend to... Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;..."

According to this 1901 New York Times article, references to the United States as singular can be found in the writings of Jefferson, Hamilton, Webster & Jackson, amongst others.

And the change from plural to singular had nothing so much to do with politics as with a general shift in American versus British linguistic practice.
For example: Brits even today can refer to "British Airways" as plural.
For other examples on our side, consider that the US Constitution also refers to the House of Representatives and the Senate as plurals, and yet nobody today claims that change to singular had anything to do with the Civil War:

"The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers;"

"The Senate shall choose their other Officers"

Bottom line: the United States was sometimes referred to as singular before the Civil War, usually referred to as singular after the Civil War, and like so much else wrong with our country, was only exclusively referred to in the singular beginning with the Progressive Era, about 100 years ago.

gorush: "I'm an old history loving northerner..."

Sounds to me like you're more in love with myth than real history.

For more on this, read:

Another article from 1895

A 2009 Visual Thesaurus article

A brief summary, note comment citing Justice McReynolds in 1935

48 posted on 01/21/2012 2:31:19 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: central_va; oh8eleven; rockrr

excuse me??

I live in Dixie down here

i have heard the N-Word more times here in the last 1.5 years than I have up north in 20 years spoken by white people

I was commended to have brought a white woman to a party once to reams of uproarous laughter

I was told that soemone’s 13 year old daughter was only dating a loser instead of some “ little N-Boy “

I have been living here and I have seen BOTH sides be very racist and I have been told by Black Americans that “Gosh, you northerners really are friendlier!”

I have met with several lost causers like yourself, up front and personal.

I came here because the liberals lost all our jobs up north.

i wanted to stay because of the illusion of the Bible Belt being true...which it aint knowing that most Baptist women down here want to meet you in a bar.

For you to make attacks on IQ to a Marine whose MOS speaks of his intelligence when your comments only point ot your ignorance, well, that says more about you than the person you accused.


49 posted on 01/21/2012 3:29:51 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon
I live in Dixie down here

You might consider a move to a higher latitude above the Mason-Dixon.

50 posted on 01/21/2012 3:35:56 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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