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Free Meredith Graves (Visitor from Tennessee jailed for concealed carry at Ground Zero)
National Review Online ^ | January 20, 2012 | The Editors

Posted on 01/20/2012 5:03:16 PM PST by neverdem

The Manhattan district attorney is reported to be in plea-deal negotiations with Meredith Graves, the nurse who faces serious felony firearms charges after bringing her Tennessee-permitted .32-caliber pistol to Ground Zero, apparently unaware of the fact that New York declines to recognize out-of-state concealed-carry licenses, and that New York City declines to recognize even New York State permits. Ms. Graves, upon seeing the no-guns sign at the memorial, naïvely asked a security guard whether it would be possible to check in her pistol; this attempt to comply with the posted rules resulted in her arrest, and could well result in her being sent to prison — for years. If reports of a plea bargain are accurate, then District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. recognizes that justice would not be served by this outcome, which speaks well of his sense of prosecutorial discretion. It would speak even better of him if the case were to be dismissed entirely, along with the similar prosecution of former U.S. Marine Ryan Jerome, who was arrested under similar circumstances.

New York City may not be full of people who believe in American Exceptionalism, but it is stuffed to the gills with people who believe in New York Exceptionalism, and it maintains a firearms-regulation regime that may be unconstitutional and certainly is far more strict than the practice of most of the rest of the country. So draconian are its laws in the matter of concealed firearms that the plain dictionary meanings of words commonly are discarded: Ms. Graves stands to be convicted of a violent felony, even though she plainly had no criminal intent, much less violent criminal intent. Likewise, a person may be charged with carrying a loaded gun even when the gun is in fact unloaded and kept in a locked carrying case, if the ammunition is kept in the same case. Under New York law, up is down, unloaded is loaded, and an innocent error is a malicious crime of violence.

New York’s strict gun laws do little or nothing to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals, something that probably was very much on the mind of Mr. Jerome, who became a jeweler after his honorable discharge from the Marine Corps and was carrying $15,000 worth of gold as part of his work. Like Ms. Graves, he attempted to surrender his gun to security guards, in his case when visiting the Empire State Building. Landmark skyscrapers in New York City face a great many serious threats, but Mr. Jerome is not among them. If anything, the presence of an armed Marine, among the most rigorously trained fighting men in the world, would render the Empire State Building marginally safer from the parlous uncertainties of 21st-century urban life. Indeed, New York might have two more very tall buildings if a few such men had been present in a couple of airliner cabins a decade ago.

New York mayor Mike Bloomberg, an anti-gun zealot (among his many comical obsessions), slandered Ms. Graves when he told the press that even without the gun charges, she “would have been arrested for the cocaine in her pocket.” That “cocaine” turns out to have been aspirin, which Ms. Graves will no doubt need, given the headache that New York is giving her. Mayor Bloomberg owes her an apology.

A concealed-carry permit is not a driver’s license. Barring an interstate compact or a constitutional finding to the contrary, a healthy respect for federalism requires that the state and the city of New York be entitled to a great deal of discretion in these matters, including the discretion to enact such pointlessly restrictive and ill-advised statutes as those currently on the books. But a pharisaical insistence upon the law’s letter in every case is the beaten path to injustice, as every prosecutor knows. And while ignorance of the law and lack of criminal intent may not be defenses under the language of the statutes, they must weigh heavily in favor of Ms. Graves and Mr. Jerome, each of whom faces a minimum sentence of three-and-a-half years in prison — which, for a sense of proportion, is three-and-a-half years more than at least one high-profile former New York prosecutor received for his well-documented crimes. A particularly zealous judge could impose a sentence of 15 years.

Mr. Vance should head off this injustice, and New York’s elected officials should revisit the feckless and fanatical legal regime that has produced it.

© National Review Online 2012


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; meredithgraves; ryanjerome; tyranny
Calling Alan Gura!
1 posted on 01/20/2012 5:03:28 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The NRA needs to get behind both of these cases and sue NYC for violating the 2nd Amendment Rights of two legal gun owners. This needs to be the follow up case to Heller and go all the way to the US Supreme Court.

“Shall not be Infringed upon...” means just that, Nanny Bloomberg!


2 posted on 01/20/2012 5:16:31 PM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: neverdem

They are not going to let her off. They will instead make an example of her. That’s how they work.


3 posted on 01/20/2012 5:22:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: neverdem

I know their handgun laws are strict, but does a .32 even count?


4 posted on 01/20/2012 5:36:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: neverdem

Are federal flight deck officers still carrying, and if so, are they breaking the law if they fly into JFK or LGA? I know that obama essentially stopped the FFDO program, but I’m not sure if previously trained FFDOs still can carry.


5 posted on 01/20/2012 5:52:13 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: neverdem

She’ll be let go with the provision that she will not sue Bloomberg for his slanderous comments.

The agreement will forced to be secret so know one will know that Bloomberg admits to being an ass.


6 posted on 01/20/2012 6:12:02 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
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To: neverdem

See related: NYC Drops Firearms Charges Against Tea Party Organizer http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2832362/posts


7 posted on 01/20/2012 6:59:23 PM PST by GVnana (OMG! -- Obama Must Go!)
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To: GVnana

Thanks for the link!


8 posted on 01/20/2012 7:06:42 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Tripping over NYC’s Stupid Gun Laws

Make sure you check the thread linked in comment# 8.

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

9 posted on 01/20/2012 9:00:30 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Its going to be interesting when Tennessee starts to not recognize NY driver’s licenses and impounding their cars and trucks as they get on I-40 heading West. NYC is going to be the blame. NY legislators that have allowed NYC to ignore the rest of the state’s wishes are going to have to wake up and smell the coffee.


10 posted on 01/20/2012 9:38:50 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: neverdem

Drivers licences are recognized across state borders yet nowhere in the Constitution is there a right to drive enimerated.

This BS has got to stop. Officials who enforce Unconstitutional laws need to be thrown in prison.

As nutty as Ron Paul may sound on some issues, he is spot on when it comes to the Constitution.


11 posted on 01/21/2012 3:25:44 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: neverdem

Drivers licences are recognized across state borders yet nowhere in the Constitution is there a right to drive enimerated.

This BS has got to stop. Officials who enforce Unconstitutional laws need to be thrown in prison.

As nutty as Ron Paul may sound on some issues, he is spot on when it comes to the Constitution.


12 posted on 01/21/2012 3:25:44 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

In Nan, you need a firearm ID card to buy a BB gun.......and even a slingshot. Yes, you read that right.

Until that changes, Christie should not be on anyones list for federal office.


13 posted on 01/21/2012 3:28:05 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Meant to say in NJ.

Hate the autocorrect on this tablet.


14 posted on 01/21/2012 3:29:06 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: vetvetdoug

Try reading the article: “A concealed-carry permit is not a driver’s license. Barring an interstate compact or a constitutional finding to the contrary, a healthy respect for federalism requires that the state and the city of New York be entitled to a great deal of discretion in these matters, including the discretion to enact such pointlessly restrictive and ill-advised statutes....”

Gun permits/drivers licenses are not comparable.


15 posted on 01/21/2012 8:23:38 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 01/21/2012 9:32:22 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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