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Santorum on Marianne Gingrich accusations: These are issues of character
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Posted on 01/20/2012 5:18:17 PM PST by chessplayer

Rick Santorum walked a fine line in his response to questions about Marianne Gingrich’s accusations against her ex-husband and Santorum’s GOP rival, Newt.

“Personal matters are personal matters, but they are matters that are — particularly when you are in public life as he was at the time and the people involved were also in a sense in public life — those issues are issues that people will look at,” Santorum responded.

“I believe in forgiveness, I’m called to believe in forgiveness,” he continued. “I do believe having some accountability to a higher calling other than self is a very, very important aspect and perspective that is important for leaders.

“To make the final comment, these are issues of character and these are issues that people will consider based upon the time, when, where, how all those thing will factor in and I’ll let people make that decision, I’m certainly not going to make it for them,” he said to a crowd of about 150 people.


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1 posted on 01/20/2012 5:18:20 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Santorum would have been far wiser to simply not state anything verbally, and simply travel around with his family in moderately high visibility as a way of expressing his fidelity.

Gingrich's personal moral failings should indeed - and certainly will - come into voter's consideration when it comes to their choice. But to bring the matter up explicitly makes Santorum look desperate.

2 posted on 01/20/2012 5:25:13 PM PST by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: chessplayer

Newt has settled Commandment #7 with his maker. Get back to me when Ricky has done the same with #9.


3 posted on 01/20/2012 5:26:09 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: chessplayer

Santorum is a sanctimonious self-serving blue-nosed jerk.

He will end up playing the same role the Huckster played in the last GOP primary, namely splitting the conservative vote giving the GOP a easily bested moderate who will not have the necessary passionate conservative grass roots support.


4 posted on 01/20/2012 5:26:54 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: chessplayer

I like Santorum; I think it took guts to say what he said because it’s not the popular line. The popular line is to overlook Gingrich’s past abuse of wives. It shows a lot of hypocrisy, though, on the part of the blow-hards who condemned Clinton for his womanizing but are willing to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to Gingrich’s sleazy activities.


5 posted on 01/20/2012 5:26:58 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: chessplayer
The bigger problem is that Santorum wants to personally act as God.

Any person that wants to control the internet and the flow of information should not be elected dog catcher... let alone President.

Santorum blew it by supporting SOPA.
6 posted on 01/20/2012 5:28:52 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: chessplayer

He needs to stop talking about this issue.
It would serve him better to just be quiet.


7 posted on 01/20/2012 5:29:35 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: chessplayer
“To make the final comment, these are issues of character and these are issues that people will consider based upon the time, when, where, how all those thing will factor in and I’ll let people make that decision, I’m certainly not going to make it for them,” he said to a crowd of about 150 people.

He's right. Time is getting short, and if Newt turns out to be our choice after SC them I'm in.

But we need to make sure we can defend our choice when his past is brought up, so let's chose carefully.

8 posted on 01/20/2012 5:30:03 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Yossarian
Nice post, Yossarian.

"dittos" and nothing to add.

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9 posted on 01/20/2012 5:30:15 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: kimoajax

I never know who Huckabee kept from being the conservative president, who was it?


10 posted on 01/20/2012 5:31:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: chessplayer
“Personal matters are personal matters, but they are matters that are — particularly when you are in public life as he was at the time and the people involved were also in a sense in public life — those issues are issues that people will look at,” Santorum responded.

Better answer: "It's none of my business".
11 posted on 01/20/2012 5:32:12 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Saundra Duffy

Aren’t you worried that Santorum helps Romney?


12 posted on 01/20/2012 5:32:39 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

In the old days FR was a place where most folks would say if his wife can’t trust him how can the country.

These days Rick Santorum tripped Newt and Newt ended up coupled with Marianne and Calista while married to others.

Change you can believe in.


13 posted on 01/20/2012 5:33:06 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: chessplayer

Santorum should have eliminated all the words from “but” to the end of his little speech. While the accusations are issues of character, they say much more about Marian Gingrich (who was investigated by the FBI for influence peddling from 1995 to 1997) and about John King, CNN, and the Lamebrains in the Media who ran with the accusations with utterly no proof. Oh, and did I mention that Santorum aligned himself with those of low character by not mentioning these are accusations by a woman scorned who appeared to be delivering a script written for her by someone else (maybe for $$$$).


14 posted on 01/20/2012 5:33:27 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Get back to me when Ricky has done the same with #9.

Or #11, for that matter.

15 posted on 01/20/2012 5:33:52 PM PST by kevao
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To: Saundra Duffy
You're fooling no one. The only reason you 'like' Santorum is because he can take votes away from Newt tomorrow to help your RINO hero Romney win in SC.

But that ain't happening. Mitt is going DOWN.

16 posted on 01/20/2012 5:34:10 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Saundra Duffy

And media hypocrisy for not saying a word about Kerry’s divorce, and John Edwards’ affair while his wife was dying. Santorum comes off as a priggish jerk.


17 posted on 01/20/2012 5:35:01 PM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: chessplayer

Santorum sounded like a hack.


18 posted on 01/20/2012 5:35:40 PM PST by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: chessplayer

Note to Santorum. Butt out.


19 posted on 01/20/2012 5:37:57 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Yossarian

And Santorum’s embarrassing prissiness will probably also gain visibility. Somebody tweeted after the debate last night that Santorum’s image was, “I saw that and I’m telling.”

He came across as an idea-free (since he has voted with the RINOs on everything) dweeb in a sweater vest who might be his mother’s beloved but sure as heck could never get elected President of the US. And the thing about how his “taxes were on his computer and there was nobody at home who could get them to him” probably would have made even his mother groan.


20 posted on 01/20/2012 5:38:23 PM PST by livius
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To: chessplayer

Romney’s personal failings and immorality are vastly greater than Newts.

We live in PC times when watching Mitt Romney speaking to millions of Americans, children and families, and young women, promoting abortion with a moving, emotional appeal, involving the death of a young family friend, and then fighting and clawing his way into elective office to create free abortions for that TV audience, doesn’t count as a scandal.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 5:38:45 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: livius

Wow hate much?


22 posted on 01/20/2012 5:39:56 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: chessplayer

Hey Ricky, I’ll give you an issue of character you retard! Arlen! All you had to do you weak spined little twit was stand up to him the GOP, but you’re are coward you sniveling little prick!


23 posted on 01/20/2012 5:40:05 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Santorum endorsed RINO Arlen Specter (!) over conservative Pat Toomey. That indefensible act is also an issue of character that needs to be addressed by those claiming that Santorum is “the only conservative left in the race.”


24 posted on 01/20/2012 5:40:23 PM PST by kevao
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To: kevao

Isn’t that the truth.


25 posted on 01/20/2012 5:40:25 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: ansel12

ROFLMAO!!!! Good one!


26 posted on 01/20/2012 5:41:36 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: kimoajax

“Blue nose”? What does that mean? Santorum is the son of Italian immigrants. His grandfather worked in the coal mines until he was in his 70s. Santorum is a graduate of Dickinson College and the University of Pittsburgh, not Ivy-League schools. He’s no spoiled rich kid from a privileged background. He won four of five elections in a state in which Democrats greatly outnumber Republicans. Gingrich won elections in safe Republican districts in Georgia. He only served four years as speaker before his own colleagues kicked him out. Many of them have now come forward publicly to say he lacks the discipline, temperament and managerial skills to be president. I don’t think they should be dismissed as quickly as some on this forum are willing to do.


27 posted on 01/20/2012 5:42:14 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: Saundra Duffy

Anything that helps Mitt, you are in favor of. Let us not play games here.


28 posted on 01/20/2012 5:42:54 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: ansel12

Too cute.


29 posted on 01/20/2012 5:42:54 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: kimoajax

I was wondering about that. First his comments about being tired of hearing people say they want less govt. Now will he play useful idiot for the libs regarding Newts past personal life?


30 posted on 01/20/2012 5:43:14 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: jwalsh07
In the old days FR was a place where most folks would say if his wife can’t trust him how can the country.

I hate it when people say that. Especially nOObs. These are "the old days" someday. Anybody who laid such judgement to a politician's wife was ridiculed, "back in the day." And will be again.

31 posted on 01/20/2012 5:43:45 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: kevao

But Newts support of Dede Scozzafava is eminently defensible, right kevao?


32 posted on 01/20/2012 5:43:58 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: chessplayer; All
From DRUDGE:

Rick Santorum said Friday he will continue his campaign on into Florida regardless of how he does this weekend in South Carolina’s primary, saying the last 24 hours have been so dramatic they could alter the race in fundamental way.

And he said he wants to see how Thursday’s other events — Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s withdrawal from the race, and new allegations of marital and temperament problems with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich — play out.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

RINO voter Santorum needs to set aside his ego, place his country before himself, drop out and endorse Newt.

( see What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/)


33 posted on 01/20/2012 5:44:36 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: kevao

And Palin endorsed McCain.


34 posted on 01/20/2012 5:44:49 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: Tribune7

Santorum made a big deal of his finishing ahead of Newt in NH (4th & 5th). I wonder if he knew that this had been reversed, I did.


35 posted on 01/20/2012 5:45:06 PM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Can you translate that into English?


36 posted on 01/20/2012 5:45:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Saundra Duffy

Was Bill Clinton ever repentant? Did he confess of his sins or elaborate about his transgressions in anyway? I’m someone that would seek an evangelical candidate above any other... until now- Santorum doesn’t have the ability or willingness to convey the damage wrought upon the USA by Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah, like Newt does, and I approve of his message and strategy, and I want him to elevate his rhetoric as the electoral situations dictate.


37 posted on 01/20/2012 5:47:37 PM PST by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: chessplayer
Newt jesus forgiveness

Newt bootsDuring a recent debate, an ABC News commentator passed a bag of stones to Republicans on stage. Every candidate, except for one,  grabbed a handful of rocks, to throw at the man they considered the sinner amongst them.  In a scene right out of, well, the Bible, Republican candidates - again and again - pelted the sinner, a great sinner, to be sure, with stones; all the while, reassuring the audience: they, the upstanding candidates, were nothing like the sinner.  Each of them, they made it clear, were more fit to the hold the office. Their sins were small, not the large sort the sinner was guilty of;  humans of quality, they.

In another scene, right out of, well, the Bible, Jesus once spoke to those with great confidence in their own goodness: "Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a dishonest tax collector. The proud Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: `I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax collector over there! For I never cheat, I don't sin, I don't commit adultery, I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.'

But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, `O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.' I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God."

This sinner.  Old as the Message is, it is so new and wonderful, if rightly presented, as to awaken astonishment in the weary, imperfect hearts who hear.  When babes in Christ give themselves to the Lord - justified through the Redeemer's sacrifice, brought into the family of God, begotten of the Holy Spirit - it means a great change for these. It means a Miracle.  Old things pass away; all things become new.

Only Now, just like Then – whited walls, the outside-of-the-cup crowd,  invested in the appearance of good conduct and their "core" principles,  make the Precious Savior, Bringer of Peace,  Lifter of Burdens, unapproachable, uninviting, intimidating, to sinners seeking forgiveness, desperate for a second chance.  The Rick Perrys, the Michelle Bachmanns, the Ron Pauls, the Rick Santorums and Mitt Romneys of today's world, their banners of spiritual pride waving high, keep multitudes of  sinners standing afar off, sure they are unworthy to approach the only One who can make them new.

On that stage, that night, there was not one word - not one word - from the political Christians about the miraculous saving work of Christ Jesus, sufficient to change, to make all things new, to transform the worst sinner, even Newt, into a new creature. 

America is full of sinners, who love their country, many of whom would die for it, and according to the purity test of  the republicans on stage that night, they probably couldn’t run for dog catcher.  Steve Deace sees things a little differently: sometimes the greatest sinners, "the most broken people are the ones God does the most tremendous work through." 

No one has walked a mile in Newt's shoes, except for Newt.  No one on that stage knows the crowded corners of Newt's heart.  There is only one thing every believer truly knows about Newt... he is forgiven. 

forgivenNewt lastword


38 posted on 01/20/2012 5:47:49 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: WestSylvanian

I must agree with some posts that I read earlier. This does not sound like the FR I am used to. There have got to be “hackers” or liberals posting here. Although we may disagree about candidates, it has never been this vicious with attacks.


39 posted on 01/20/2012 5:49:11 PM PST by kaki
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To: Saundra Duffy
Normally, Gingrich's past may bother me, but this is not a normal election by a wide mile. We need a tough, intelligent, brave fighter to go up against the liberal media and their darling Barack Hussein Obama. If we don't have a fighter, the Republicans will lose and our country will take a hard left nosedive to the bottom of the heap. Newt's past marriages mean nothing to me this time, in fact , he should be able to gain a few dem votes because of his past. They seem to love people with imperfect pasts and presents for that matter.
40 posted on 01/20/2012 5:49:30 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; livius
Wow hate much?

It ain't hate when it's the truth. Rick Santorum needs to face reality, and that reality is that he is NOT going to be the GOP nominee. He needs to emulate Governor Rick Perry and get on board.
41 posted on 01/20/2012 5:50:14 PM PST by mkjessup (I support the *NEWTerizer* - the only candidate left who can and WILL Kick 0bama's AZZ!!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Before anyone endorses Santorum they should carefully review his voting record. It is not conservative. http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/


42 posted on 01/20/2012 5:50:29 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: true believer forever

Santorum is done after last nite. It’s going to be Newt or Romney.

The Newt fidelity issues will matter. Thats what everyone was talking about today at work. Not the debates, or the issues.

It’s really too bad, as we need to focus all energy on Obama.


43 posted on 01/20/2012 5:51:34 PM PST by gswilder
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To: chessplayer

Sweet! the Santormoniousness never ends!


44 posted on 01/20/2012 5:51:55 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: kimoajax

You mean Fred.

2008 SC:

McLame 33%
HUCK 30%
Fred 15% (Shoved Liberal McLame down our throats)


45 posted on 01/20/2012 5:52:13 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: WestSylvanian

Those that got rid of him immediatly went to SPENDING like “conservative democrats” alias, “RINO” republicans.I think they just wanted him out of the way, he was crimping their style.


46 posted on 01/20/2012 5:52:51 PM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: patriot08

He had the arrogance to suggest he’s RWR. No sale.
Arrogant, argumentative teenager.
Release tax returns, Santorum...LOL.


47 posted on 01/20/2012 5:53:25 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: true believer forever

BRAVO FRiend.


48 posted on 01/20/2012 5:54:19 PM PST by mkjessup (I support the *NEWTerizer* - the only candidate left who can and WILL Kick 0bama's AZZ!!)
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To: Yossarian

“Santorum would have been far wiser to simply not state anything verbally”

I agree. For Rick it is better to not say a thing. It is to easy to come off in a bad light. I think he too easily takes the bait as he did in the debate last night.


49 posted on 01/20/2012 5:55:51 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Saundra Duffy

How about Santorum’s wife living with an abortionist 40 years her senior. I guess Rick forgave her.. Not a character issue?


50 posted on 01/20/2012 5:55:51 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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