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Is Romney's LDS faith still a factor among evangelical voters?
KSL-TV Salt Lake City ^ | January 20, 2012 | Lisa Riley Roche and John Daley

Posted on 01/20/2012 10:53:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

GILBERT, S.C. — Lois Buffington shook her head when she talked about the evangelical Christians she knows who won't vote for Mitt Romney in Saturday's presidential primary here because he's a Mormon.

"That angers me, and I am a Southern Baptist from day one and will always be," said Buffington, a retired business owner from nearby Lexington who stood outside in the rain Friday to hear Romney speak on the final full day of campaigning before Saturday's primary vote.

"Mr. Romney is a Mormon because that's his belief and his choice. That's what America was built on, freedom of choice," she said. "If the rest of us had the morals the Mormon people have, we wouldn't have any problems."

New polls show Romney no longer leads the GOP field in South Carolina, thanks to a sudden surge in support for former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Romney's campaign is already shifting its focus to Florida's Jan. 31 primary.

Buffington, who supported Romney since his first bid for the White House in 2008, said she's "been preaching" to those who don't see Mormons as fellow Christians to put aside their concerns about his faith.

That's a tall order in South Carolina, she said, a state seen as the first real test in the presidential race of a candidate's ability to connect with the GOP's conservative base.

"I believe some of the people here are more bothered by Mr. Romney being a Mormon than Newt Gingrich having three wives," Buffington said.

Gingrich came out on top in a Clemson University poll released Friday, with the support of 36 percent of the likely voters surveyed Wednesday and Thursday compared to 24 percent for Romney.

Palmetto Family Council President Oran Smith said while the economy is the key issue this election for the evangelical voters his organization represents, Romney's religion remains enough of a concern that it could conceivably cost him the race.

"If it's extremely close between Romney and Gingrich, and you're getting down to hundreds of votes, sure, I think Romney's identification with the Mormon faith could make the difference," Smith said.

Still, Smith said, "While I think it's there and it's going to be there, I just don't think it's going to move a lot of votes. I don't think it's going to move tens of thousands of votes. It's going to be very random and not very powerful."

James Benson, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from Blythewood, said Romney's faith has come up "not nearly as much as I had expected and not as much as last time. He's paid his dues."

Benson, who was passing out bags of "Grits for Mitt" from a family mill at a recent Romney rally, said voters understand "if you elect a Mormon, you know what you're getting, like it or not."

Kris Vick, a retired first-grade teacher and former hospital chaplain from Spartanburg, said she was willing to overlook Romney's religion.

"If I could have the perfect candidate, I would prefer he would not be a Mormon, but that's OK," Vick said. "I realize they call themselves Christians."

She said ideally, the GOP nominee would be a fellow evangelical Christian, but added she believed "the role of the president is not to evangelize."

Sheryl Moureaux, a retired high school teacher from Eastover, said she has "lots of friends who have problems with Mormons" but doesn't feel she should judge Romney's beliefs.

"As long as he says he's a Christian, I believe him," Moureaux said. Other voters, though, may not be so willing, she said.

"I think there will be a group of people in this state that will be an issue for," Moureaux said. "Romney has such great family values … you think that would make a difference."

Mormons have been in South Carolina since the 1830s. Today nearly 37,000 LDS Church members live here and a temple was dedicated in Columbia in 1999.

University of South Carolina political science professor Robert Oldendick said he doesn't expect Romney's religion to hurt him at the polls.

"It doesn't help Romney, but it's really not, in my estimation, that much of a factor," Oldendick said, noting the voters who question his faith probably have already rejected him as too moderate.

Besides, Oldendick said, the economy is "dwarfing any religious issue" in a state with close to 10 percent unemployment.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lds; mormons; romney; southcarolina

1 posted on 01/20/2012 10:53:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not a factor in my case since I wouldn’t vote for Romney, no matter what.


3 posted on 01/20/2012 10:58:38 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What pisses me off is those darn Lutherans!! /s


4 posted on 01/20/2012 11:00:30 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It has to do with wobbliness, not faith.

Wobbliness with respect to conservatism, not faith in God.

5 posted on 01/20/2012 11:01:31 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I will not participate in helping the RINOs choose another candidate. No McRomney NONE of the time.

Conservative or nothing. Third party, write in Palin, stay home. Damn the torpedoes!

6 posted on 01/20/2012 11:02:11 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We aren’t electing a pastor, we are electing a President.

As many have said about Newt, we aren’t electing a spouse.


7 posted on 01/20/2012 11:02:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Uff da! Is it the kringle or lutefisk that bothers you?


8 posted on 01/20/2012 11:06:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

C’mon! If Mitt saw his religion holding him back he’d instantly announce he’d suddenly had a vision and become a Lutheran!


9 posted on 01/20/2012 11:07:21 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: All

Rick Santorum seems to be the most pious of all of the lot, and I think he would suck as a president.

He doesn’t seem to have the temperament or the tools with in himself.


10 posted on 01/20/2012 11:09:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, dats no bodder, its just all that darned smilin..

LOL


11 posted on 01/20/2012 11:11:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No! Not much. His problem factor is that, if he is truly a conservative, one could not tell it by his past, his fli-flops, or his passion, which is missing in action.

To me, Mitt has always seemed like more of the same, go along to get along DC type we have running the Repub side in Washington. He has stated several times he could work with Dems--Oh, really? Dirty Harry? The Nan from Frisco Land? Chuckie? Pardon me if I think those remarks disqualify him from being a conservative.

Should he buy, er, get the nomination, I will once again hold my nose and vote for him. The alternative is unthinkable.

vaudine

12 posted on 01/20/2012 11:12:41 PM PST by vaudine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Romney’s LDS faith still a factor among evangelical voters?
***well, yeah. If he can’t break free from a superstition as blatantly false as mormonism, how can we expect him to exercise good judgement as president? He’s as crazy as Ron Paul.


13 posted on 01/20/2012 11:14:59 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"As long as he says he's a Christian, I believe him," Moureaux said.

Does anyone have Mrs. Moureaux contact info? I know this Nigerian prince who inherited a ton of money and needs someone to help him get it out of Nigeria.

14 posted on 01/20/2012 11:16:55 PM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: Kevmo

19th Century Scientology, basically.


15 posted on 01/20/2012 11:17:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
IF we set ones church as the sole standard of ability {loyality} too hold office many of our Founding Fathers would have failed it on this standard. A considerable number were not Christian nor Jewish. They were Deist. Meaning essentially they denied the Divinity of Christ and believed GOD created the heavens and earth then abandoned it. Among such was Thomas Jefferson.

I'm not against Romney because he is a Mormon. I am against him because of his liberal political history and current platform. Now knowing what we know about Thomas Jefferson would he too be disqualified based on his beliefs?

It is much wiser too attack Romney on his record and platform. I know some Mormons including a few Freepers whom I would trust as political leaders.

16 posted on 01/20/2012 11:20:23 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think that economy is so bad, and things are so screwed up, that most don’t really care about religious ideology at this point, even in evangelical South Carolina.

As someone in another Party once said:
“IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!”


17 posted on 01/20/2012 11:21:48 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not yet.. But if need be....


18 posted on 01/20/2012 11:25:01 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: cva66snipe

Amen.

They have us tearing up the church.


19 posted on 01/20/2012 11:25:23 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oooohhhh. stealing that....


20 posted on 01/20/2012 11:27:01 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would vote for a mormon if he was a constitutionalist. I’d vote for someone of about any religion if he is a constitutionalist, who believes in freedom, who believes in defending the nation, and who is decent and moral in his private dealings.

My problem with Romney is the apparent fact that his principles are negotiable. Every politician, in fact everyone who deals in public life has to compromise on the practical application of principle but Romney seems prepared to deal on the principles themselves.

He strikes me as someone for whom the deal is more important than the principles involved. Thats my problem with him.

That said, compared to Obama he’s a giant.

My preference in this race is Gingrich, baggage and all, followed by Santorum (though he annoys me), followed by Romney and finally Paul. Even Paul is head and shoulders the better man when you put him up alongside Obama.

But I think Gingrich is going to be the next president, and I think he will be a fine one. And we’re going to need good men at the top because I’m convinced we haven’t heard the last of Iran’s mullahs.


21 posted on 01/20/2012 11:38:23 PM PST by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The answer would be yes and no. Yes to some portion of Evangelical voters, not to other portion. So, the question should be: how many Evangelical (or other conservative Christian) voters would decline to vote for a Mormon? Will it be enough to influence the results? I actually don’t know the answer, since I don’t have state-by-state data on this.


22 posted on 01/20/2012 11:42:09 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be a choice between two evils I suspect.


23 posted on 01/20/2012 11:42:17 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: tcrlaf
I agree.

The mormons are reputably very good money managers and prepare themselves for armageddon.

Sounds good to me...

In SC there seems to have been no questions asked about Mitt's great-grandfather having 5 wives (that's why he went to Mexico), so "wives sharing their husbands" doesn't seem to be a problem.

24 posted on 01/21/2012 12:20:44 AM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the article:

“I believe some of the people here are more bothered by Mr. Romney being a Mormon than Newt Gingrich having three wives,”
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Wow, where to start... First off true believers in the Word of God know that Mitt belongs to a CULT and that even Newt with his 3 wives, if he truly has come to Christ, is forgiven and in the fold.

Being a Mormon is a HUGE negative if you are truly a believer, being a sinner, forgiven and saved by grace just makes you one of us.

And just to be clear, I am not giddy that Newt acted like a pig (because he did) but he has publicly stated his sin and has (according to him and I believe him) asked God and his family to forgive him.

As a Christian I can relate to being a sinner in need of forgiveness. What I can not relate to is thinking that I too can earn my way to god status and one day rule my own planet!

Time will tell if Newt will be president, but the Bible is full of men, ie, Abraham, Moses, David and Paul who were also sinners that God called to be leaders of men. If they were good enough for God, then based on what Newt has said about his repentance, he is good enough for me.

25 posted on 01/21/2012 12:23:35 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: JennysCool
C’mon! If Mitt saw his religion holding him back he’d instantly announce he’d suddenly had a vision and become a Lutheran!

Not the Bishop, if the Prophet had not granted permission to Mitt when they had their meeting, then Mitt would not have run.

The Romney's migrated here after being converted from Christianity in 1841 in England, to serve Joseph Smith, they are one of the most powerful families in the religion, Romney is only about 20 years from becoming a God himself.

This run by Bishop Romney is being coordinated with the Mormon leadership and it's advertising agencies, and their current public relations push.

Already part of the secretive, most devoted, most devout, 15% of the elite Mormons which are separate in many ways from the rank and file, for instance Mitt's wedding was held in secret, only the elites were qualified to witness it, even his wife's parents were forbidden, it is believed that Mitt will be promoted into the true inner sanctum following all of this.

Mitt will not compromise on the true purpose of his life, and his destiny to become a God.

26 posted on 01/21/2012 12:34:04 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conservatives, especially Catholic conservatives, need to start making clear to the media and anti-social conservatives, that all Christian churches are on the same page in regards to Mormonism.

Catholics need to start seeing that being left out of Christian concerns is insulting, and an attack on their faith, and a way of diluting Christianity as a force in America.


27 posted on 01/21/2012 1:06:19 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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If religious belief did not make any difference a demon worshipping wiccan would be a perfectly acceptable nominee. Likewise a head hunter cannibal witch doctor would make a grand president. Just put aside his religious practices and only consider his leadership skills.
We are free to practice any religion we please, with the exception of head hunting and a few other religious rites too gruesome to delineate. We are also free to reject from voting for leadership anyone whose religious practices are offensive to our own.
Romney’s religious beliefs are offensive to me. His pious belief that becoming president will insure him the same status as God is insane. Romney is ontologically insane. He does not believe in the universe created by the one true God. He is, by any measure, a religious nutcase.


28 posted on 01/21/2012 1:45:05 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Romney’s LDS faith still a factor among evangelical voters?
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I dont know about “evangelicals”

but for this Christian its that open marriage doctrine...

“celetrial marriage” “the first principle” AKA polygamy..


29 posted on 01/21/2012 3:37:09 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is Romney's LDS faith still a factor among evangelical voters?

Well, DUH!

30 posted on 01/21/2012 4:08:43 AM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

YES...it is still a disqualifying issue ranked about 20 below other disqualifiers that have nothing to do with his cult membership.

Putting religious persecution lipstick on this liberal pig isn’t going to turn him into a victim.


31 posted on 01/21/2012 5:13:33 AM PST by peyton randolph (Mitt has more views on an issue than he has pairs of magic underpants)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is Romney's LDS faith still a factor among evangelical voters?

I don't vote for anyone who cannot apply the Socratic method in Western logic, on an issue that essentially forms a world view. I agree we are not electing a pastor: but I also try to estimate a candidate's ability to think logically. Maybe that's why Mittens flip-flops so much.

32 posted on 01/21/2012 8:11:10 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the story - “If the rest of america had the morals of mormonism we’d have nothing to worry about.”

The morals of mormonism have given us the amoral life of the FLDS

The morals of mormonism have given us liberals like Reid and Romney

The morals of mormonism have given us mormons who will lie and misrepresent when expedient.

The morals of mormonism are as white washed tombs.


33 posted on 01/21/2012 8:19:47 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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**Is Romney’s LDS faith still a factor among evangelical voters?**

It would seem it is a negative factor in the South. Do you expect evangelicals to vote for him who paid to have babies killed with his Romneycare? I don’t.


34 posted on 01/21/2012 9:35:19 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Sandy, you hypocritical pillock, you have been whining for weeks on end about FR no longer being what you believe it should be, as if you actually want it to disappear because FR isn't allowing LDSinc to spread your propaganda unopposed in a caucus cage. Now you really expect us to believe you care one whit about ‘giving Freerepublic a bad name’?
36 posted on 01/21/2012 3:36:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Saundra Duffy; MHGinTN

Posters like you give FR a bad name. Stand up for what you believe in already!


37 posted on 01/21/2012 5:23:21 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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“Posters like you give FR a bad name. Stand up for what you believe in already!”

Well, let’s see:
Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are forbidden to post under “caucus” “ecumenical” and “devotional”. How would you suggest I “stand up” for what I believe when I am forbidden to do so on this site. No one left here but the brown nosers and yes men.


38 posted on 01/21/2012 7:32:44 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I was responding that you could post on OPEN threads like everyone else, but since you’ve been zotted, ‘it mattereth not’ as you say.


39 posted on 01/21/2012 8:22:33 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: TheOldLady; 50mm

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40 posted on 01/21/2012 8:31:24 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: TheOldLady; Saundra Duffy
SD passed over to the dark side (mittbot) a long while ago


42 posted on 01/22/2012 9:56:17 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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