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RUSH: BROKERED CONVENTION Chatter on Rise
www.RushLimbaugh.com ^ | January 20, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/21/2012 4:52:20 AM PST by Yosemitest

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To: Daveinyork
I don’t think a brokered convention is possible under the rules in effect since about 1972. Nobody controls delegates, and they are free to vote however they want after a cettain number of ballots have resulted in no nomination...

Are there two types? There is the smoke-filled back room of establishment GOP types picking the RINO for us. Then, there is the brokering that would go on between the freed-up delegates, as it dawns on them that vote after vote, no candidate is getting to a majority. Isn't that a "brokered" convention as well, and if stalemated, a newcomer could result?

101 posted on 01/21/2012 7:54:42 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: JSDude1
Not to sound cynical, but Daniels knows how to stick to a budget ~ as well as to create one ~ and enforce it on the bureaucrats under him.

Reagan failed to get Congress to do that.

A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE has got to love Daniels. A SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE might well consider he took back his unfaithful wife (a serious act of Christian love).

I doubt Ronaldus Magnus would have taken back Jane Wyman on a bet.

102 posted on 01/21/2012 7:55:53 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: JSDude1

I agree. A brokered convention could only be kept from the establishment if the delegates themselves rebelled against the leadership and refused to put a rino stool-pigeon in place.

I want no Chris Rino Cristie.

I want no Mitch Rino Daniels.

I want a bold, forceful, proud American-exceptionalism conservative.

And I will NEVER support any candidate whose pro-life record is NOT bold, clear, and absolutely without doubt.


104 posted on 01/21/2012 7:58:06 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Yosemitest

Rush is wrong. There are a SURFEIT of brokers. Every state has its congressmen and representatives, its party leaders, its factions, etc. And every one of them are more than willing to haggle for the nomination.

Almost guaranteed: Whoever the nominee would be would be far more conservative than either Romney or Gingrich.

I have seen a list of probably the TOP 10 conservatives in office right now, most ANY of which would get the votes of the conservative delegates.

And this is very important: delegates are only limited in their vote to the FIRST ballot. If no nominee wins outright, ALL delegates become FREE AGENTS, and can vote for whoever they choose!

Out of the 2,286 delegates to the convention, what percentage would you guess are conservatives? Maybe 60% or more? And a nominee needs 1,144 votes, or 50% +1 to get the nomination.

Which means that Romney is toast. The best he could probably muster after a failed first vote would be 10-15%, almost all from New England. Gingrich would do better, with maybe 20-25%. Santorum could pull, again my guess, 15-25%.

Palin could probably waltz in and claim 40%+, maybe more.

Of the other conservative possibilities, they would form their own blocs. Some of them would bow out, not wanting the job. Palin could be a “kingmaker” with the snap of her fingers for any of them.

All told, it would be an extraordinary, and oddly enough, most (real) democratic event than what most people have seen in their lives.

The Beltway bandits, Hill Rats, insiders and lobbyists, and the RNC leadership would be dashing madly about, for once totally out of control, while the party rank and file ruled. RINOs and leftist media spin doctors, and people like Karl Rove would be in an utter panic as all the castles they have built were torn down, and a candidate they didn’t own was suddenly the nominee.

A candidate who would win, and lead a solidly Republican congress on a resurrection of America.

A president who would likely nominate two solid conservative Supreme Court justices and insure the court was a conservative and constitutionalist body for the next decade or two.

A president who would strip America of decades of welfare state leftism, craft a balanced budget, end the Obama recession/depression, break the big media oligopoly, and turn the Democrats into a minority party for decades.


105 posted on 01/21/2012 8:02:38 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: C210N

I think the nominee still needs to get a majority of the delegate votes.


106 posted on 01/21/2012 8:03:27 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: SueRae
A specialist in standard regulatory process as well as how you stick regulations together would be more valuable than any medical guy.

Remember, this whole thing was put together by the now quite insane Tony Wiener. He's not a doctor ~ but he was undoubtedly in the top couple of dozen legal text writers in town. It will take some just like him to undo this garbage.

107 posted on 01/21/2012 8:04:07 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
One of the reasons the top Republican dogs in Virginia were wiling to make a deal with Romney is that one of their own would like to be VP.

As it turns out two of the three four finalists are Virginia residents. That makes it impossible for any Virginia Republican to run as VP.

Which means Republicans, like Democrats, are willing to sell the public down the river and send their mothers into the street for a shot at higher political office!

108 posted on 01/21/2012 8:08:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: xzins

Hmm, so you want a pro-life absolutist. So do I. We have THREE of them currently available to vote for. BTW, Daniels is also a pro-life absolutist.


109 posted on 01/21/2012 8:10:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Elsie
That's what they're trying to do now.
110 posted on 01/21/2012 8:16:17 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: muawiyah

Gingrich and Santorum are the only pro-life republican candidates currently remaining.

Paul has a dismal 55% rating by right to life and a 75% rating by the national abortion rights action league. FWIW, there is no such thing as “states rights” abortion. Homicide is homicide.

Romney’s record is radical pro-abortion until he began to seek the presidency in the middle of his term as Massachusetts governor, a term he won on the basis of a promise that he is unalterably pro-abortion.


111 posted on 01/21/2012 8:18:29 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

I don’t particularly care how some organization with political agendas rates someone’s moral standing ~ Paul is a RTL absolutist.


112 posted on 01/21/2012 8:23:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Round 9
I beg to differ.
By August, the general public will be so sick of what the LAME Stream Media does to our candidates, they'll be happy to get a fresh, new face.
Let's just hope the conservative establishment pick a real winner, maybe Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, or Sarah Palin.
Let's review 1976 Republican Convention 1976 ElectionWallDotOrg.flv.
113 posted on 01/21/2012 8:30:18 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: muawiyah

Sorry, muawiyah, when BOTH organizations, pro-life and pro-abortion, who hate each other rate Paul the same way, then Paul’s record is pro-choice.

And pro-choice is the libertarian position, and we both know it is.

Paul does not accidentally get rated by the pro-abortion lobby, NARAL, as voting 75% of the time favorably toward legislation important to them. I would suggest that you are missing a nuance someplace.


114 posted on 01/21/2012 8:36:17 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: philman_36
Roger. Out.
115 posted on 01/21/2012 8:37:31 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: philman_36
Roger. Out.
116 posted on 01/21/2012 8:37:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

I hope that this time the RINOs get the short end of the stick, but they never do.


117 posted on 01/21/2012 8:41:07 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel
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To: animal172

You need to look atthe situation through the prism of running against BO. Newt will carry midwestern states and some eastern states when going against Obama.


118 posted on 01/21/2012 8:41:15 AM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: xzins
Seriously now, when you have organizations that rate the way you vote on certain types of legislation, and you have a candidate come along who thinks all of that legislation should NOT involve the federal government, you get an anomaly.

Failure to recognize that is a sign of a narrow mind.

I don't let organizational political ratings guide my thinking about any of these people.

Dr. Paul is a nut case ~ Romney isn't. He cold-bloodedly synthesized whatever policy positions he thought might trick the broad masses. That makes him a sociopath.

119 posted on 01/21/2012 8:58:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: BagCamAddict

Your right, you don’t listen to Rush much.. He goes after Romney just as much as other when they are WRONG.. Makes me sick for people to comment when they don’t listen to somebody every day...


120 posted on 01/21/2012 8:58:42 AM PST by scbison
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To: muawiyah

Mike Pence has never once had unfaithful problems with either he or his wife-AND his pro life, and pro marriage bonafieds are well known.. Mitch-not so much pro traditional marriage (he’s not anti-but I know for a fact he’s a homosexuality supporter).


121 posted on 01/21/2012 9:04:48 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: muawiyah

I agree that Romney is cold-blooded and that Ron Paul is a nut case.

However, I also know that Paul is a libertarian, and that a libertarian will default to a the notion that a woman should be in control of her own body.

I don’t, therefore, think those rankings are accidental.


122 posted on 01/21/2012 9:07:16 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Yosemitest

I LOVE the idea of a brokered convention, though the convention will be loaded with GOP apparatchicks-—unless conservative activists get active in the ACTUAL delegate selection..


123 posted on 01/21/2012 9:08:28 AM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: xzins
Paul is not a perfect Libertarian either, and he has no reputation for Libertinism or Liberalism.

He does not fit into neat categories that can be easily matched against current legislative agendas.

People also mis-speak and sometimes make statements you think actually apply to other, but unrelated situations.

124 posted on 01/21/2012 9:30:39 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: wita
“Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall” still brings chills and a tear to my eyes.

Oh,yes...me too. I miss that man so very much. The only thing close to him was Sarah Palin,and she's out. I fear for my country and where it's going. I just wanna scream when I watch these conventions and see how these candidates go after each other over insignificant things,yet not enough on issues of the day and what plans they can put forward to turn things around. All signal and no substance.

That being said,the only one I think has even the slightest chance of taking out 0bama is Gingrich. That's where i'm headed.
125 posted on 01/21/2012 9:39:38 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: muawiyah

I have a friend who claims that Ron Paul is his hero. I think he has resigned himself to Paul losing again. I told him that Rand Paul is probably more likely to gain real political prominence someday, and that Ron’s greatest danger is somehow ruining that for his son.

I tell him that one of Ron Paul’s greatest detriments is his inability to communicate. He rants about how that shouldn’t be a factor. The fact is, though, that it’s reality.

And I don’t think I’m wrong focusing on Naral. If they’re pleased at Paul voting their way, then I’m suspicious. Those things don’t easily happen consistently and accidentally at the same time.


126 posted on 01/21/2012 9:46:14 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Okay, I had to look up sur·feit: I like your well thought out reply.
I hope you're right.


It's my opinion that Karl Rove, and Dick "the toe-sucker" Morris are the "bane" of the Republican Party.

I truely hope you're right.br
127 posted on 01/21/2012 9:48:54 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

There is a Cold Civil War on....between We the People in Flyover Country...advocating hard for the freedoms guaranteed by Constitutional Government...and the East-tablishment Rinocracy/Democrats-

The latter, essentially fused as one in their boundless appetite for Communism/Socialism...enthusiastic to the degree each “side” anticipates the power that comes with their potential control of the Freedoms of Flyover Country..

A “brokered” convention will indeed make it all evident...


128 posted on 01/21/2012 9:56:02 AM PST by mo
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To: no dems

“...to the psyche of this nation if out of the GOP Convention came a young, fresh face”

the ONLY “fresh face” the establishment it in ends to let out of a brokered convention has a Bush around its neck.

Thats ALL this is about...

If Gingrich is way out in front...Jebby will be his “
VP”.....


129 posted on 01/21/2012 9:59:48 AM PST by mo
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To: no dems

“...to the psyche of this nation if out of the GOP Convention came a young, fresh face”

the ONLY “fresh face” the establishment it intends to let out of a brokered convention has a Bush around its neck.

Thats ALL this is about...

If Gingrich is way out in front...Jebby will be his “
VP”.....


130 posted on 01/21/2012 10:00:12 AM PST by mo
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To: muawiyah
"the 7th Governor of Illinois in a row to end up involved in crime."

Question: "Why is Rod Blagojevich still not in prison?

Answer: "Because there are no empty cells in the Illinois governors' cell block."

131 posted on 01/21/2012 10:10:19 AM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
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To: xzins
Naral are made up mostly of physicians in Connecticut, and abortionists nationwide. The greater number of them vote overwhelmingly for Joseph Lieberman.

The world does not nestle in little boxes that are readily understood.

132 posted on 01/21/2012 10:11:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: no dems

I agree, mostly. However, names like Gingrich get bandied about so much, and have for years, that it sort of seeps into what passes for the brains of the average plebe. Santorum would definitely go over the heads of many Wal Mart customers.


133 posted on 01/21/2012 10:25:02 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: cookcounty

Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!


134 posted on 01/21/2012 10:25:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: scbison

Sorry.

I used to listen to Rush years ago, but it hasn’t fit into my life in years.

Honestly, it wasn’t so much the bashing of Newt and Perry that bothered me (though that did bother me — I happen to think they are both right; capitalism is great, but not if it’s making people homeless just so you can make even MORE millions). What bothered me was that he was not just defending Romney, he was outright promoting Romney.

Again, sorry, but I was shocked that Rush would promote Romney, and that lost a lot of my respect for him.


135 posted on 01/21/2012 11:57:13 AM PST by BagCamAddict (THANK YOU GOVERNOR PERRY for doing the right thing. GO NEWT !!)
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To: BagCamAddict
I think you're misreading or misunderstand Rush.
I don't think he was promoting Romney, so much as he was just trying to explain Romney's logic and strategy.
I don't remember Rush endorsing or promoting anyone, yet.
136 posted on 01/21/2012 11:42:36 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest
WHAT is he talking 'bout? Are you fucking nuts? Rush is an ass-hat a-waiing for a bloviate. YOU are NOT on the same page as us. RUSH is NOT on the same page as US. Rush'll come out totally bashing "us". You watch what Rush does...
137 posted on 01/21/2012 11:54:23 PM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: raygun
We shall see Monday.
Ease up on the language. Kids use this site as a study tool.
Thanks.
138 posted on 01/22/2012 12:33:45 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: wita

As a young boy I watched Reagan as host of THE GENERAL ELECTRIC THEATER. I was always captured by his short conservative talk that he would give during each show. He lost that job the same month I signed up for the Navy, May of 1962. There was always something about his voice and manner that set him apart from the other actors of his day even though some of them greatly outdid him in Hollywood. He really was the “Great Communicator”.


139 posted on 01/22/2012 7:49:53 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: upchuck

“Unless, of course, the GOP elites secretly want another four years of nobama destroying our country.”
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“Foil (literature), a subsidiary character who emphasizes the traits of a main character. A technique also used in plays and motion pictures”

“A Comedic (or comic) foil, is the straight man in a comedy double act.”

They CERTAINLY don’t believe that Romney will beat Obama and restore America to its former glory, therefore there are only two real possibilities. Either just what you said or they DO believe Romney can win for whatever reason and they know more of what goes on behind the scenes than we can hope to and they plan on Romney rubber stamping all the damage already done by Obama. The Republican establishment is far from being the enemy of the left, they are more of a “foil” as defined in the quotation above. In my view Fox News which started out as a real alternative to the leftward slanted propaganda on the other TV “news” shows has moved gradually leftward until it is little more than a foil for the lies of CNN, MSNBC etc. It is amazing how the silly people on the left bemoan the “lies” on Fox News when Fox more and more just repeats the same garbage available on the left leaning channels.


140 posted on 01/22/2012 8:05:44 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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