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powerline ^ | 1/20/2012 | john hinderaker

Posted on 01/21/2012 6:30:40 AM PST by milwguy

What is it about this primary season that causes Republicans to go around the bend? The current beneficiary of the “anyone but Romney” mania is Newt Gingrich, who may actually win the South Carolina primary tomorrow. I find that astonishing. Gingrich has been mostly out of the public view since he retired from Congress 13 years ago. The most surprising feature of this endlessly surprising political year is that, at age 68, Gingrich has made a comeback.

It is hard to make clear-cut statements about the mercurial and often contradictory Gingrich, but one thing we can say with absolute certainty: he will never be President of the United States. Put aside the fact that he lasted only four years as Speaker of the House before resigning in disgrace, leaving Congress with an approval rating around 15%. Forget that he was the father of the earmark. Never mind his notorious lack of self-control and his attacks on free enterprise. Those are all worthy topics for another day, but for the moment let’s just focus on the allegations by Newt’s second ex-wife that hit the press this week. Apart from all the other good reasons why Gingrich will never be President, Marianne Gingrich’s sensational allegations snuffed out any possible hope that Newt can beat Barack Obama in 2012.

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To: Bikkuri

Sweet!!!!


151 posted on 01/21/2012 8:10:32 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: milwguy

IBTZ - mitt bot loser


152 posted on 01/21/2012 8:11:29 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: milwguy

Nobody “loves” Newt, it’s just that he is the best out of a bad lot. But this group of candidates is the worst I’ve ever seen, from top to bottom...but I reluctantly agree that Newt is the only one with a shot to take down Obama.....Romney will get crushed.


153 posted on 01/21/2012 8:12:00 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: dirtboy
Once again, MORON.

You make alinsky smile. Aren't you proud? Politics of personal destruction, scorched earth, if you don't have a good retort then sling allegations and insults and name-calling.
154 posted on 01/21/2012 8:12:02 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: milwguy; Jim Robinson

Wow...that took courage. I applaud you. I didn’t buy in to the Palin hysteria like almost everyone here and I’m not buying in to Newt. Sorry Jim.

Newt is the Brett Favre of Republican Politics. As a born and raised Packer fan there were days I loved Favre and days he drove me crazy.

Mark my words. Just like Favre, Newt will throw an interception to end the season and break your heart. He will say or do something absolutely devistating (like he has so many times before) and will hand Obama another four years in office. I’m not willing to take that chance.

I frankly think the remaining field sucks, but Santorum sucks the least.


155 posted on 01/21/2012 8:12:23 AM PST by PjhCPA (Just because I don't support Newt, doesn't mean I support Romney or Paul.)
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To: sitetest

Sorry, I’ll go with the serial adulterer over the serial mass murderer.

I’m just funny that way.

LOL!


156 posted on 01/21/2012 8:12:59 AM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: dirtboy
Barack Obama has been married to one woman as well. Using your logic, we should just re-elect him.

And you have to admit, Jimmy Carter's worst sin was that he once had "lust in his heart", do we really want to go back to that? Of course all other things being equal, I want the guy with less baggage, but all other things aren't equal in this race.

157 posted on 01/21/2012 8:14:14 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: yldstrk

If you go back to some of the earlier debates and interviews there are several where Newt is quite contrite about his past mistakes and talks about his faith in God.

Bringing up the issue yet again with “news” that is not new is just another example of the MSM trying to bring down a conservative a day before a primary. Newt was quite right to call out the CNN guy and ABC on it.


158 posted on 01/21/2012 8:14:27 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: milwguy

Make mine diet lime.


159 posted on 01/21/2012 8:16:24 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: yldstrk

You are casting viriol, firebrands, and death.

Were you a reasonable man, you would recognise the great good Gingrich did as speaker of the house.

He speaks words of wisdom and truth now as well.

And he will fight tooth and nail against the Democrats Socialist and tyrannical schemes.

Since you are not running in the primaries, I will support Newt.

And, Yes, he was wrong to lose his previous marriages. I don’t think he will lose this one.

Wish you consistently went after Soros, Obama, and Reid with the same venom.


160 posted on 01/21/2012 8:16:46 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: TomGuy

You make alinsky smile. Aren’t you proud? Politics of personal destruction, scorched earth, if you don’t have a good retort then sling allegations and insults and name-calling.

I smell a beckybot who is a nit-wit-mit bot.


161 posted on 01/21/2012 8:18:29 AM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: Son House

“I think he will, counting on platitudes and big words and the media relishing him for what a great thinker he is”

They didn’t behave that way when he was speaker.

He expects nothng from the midia except unmitigated continual hostility.

If you do not realize this, you are foolish.


162 posted on 01/21/2012 8:22:15 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: milwguy

163 posted on 01/21/2012 8:23:14 AM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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To: milwguy
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Removing liberal judges...wonderful idea, but completely UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Or doesn’t the Constitution matter unless Obama is in the White House?


It's OK ... I understand your Incredulility ... I was "once" under the same impression ... fostered, of course, by the LIBERAL PROPAGANA MEDIA ...


Newt Gingrich (America's Political Historian) explains that way back in 1802 ... Thomas Jefferseon and James Madison (writers of the Declaration and Constitution) ...

they worked WITH CONGRESS to pass LEGISLATION to ABOLISH 17 out of 35 Federal Judgeships ... Federal Judges who had "wandered off the reservation) ...




If it was PROPER and GOOD ENOUGH for Thomas Jefferson and HJames Madison ...

Then it's COOL with Newt Gingich and me too ...

STARTING with the "entire" Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ...


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164 posted on 01/21/2012 8:23:38 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: TFMcGuire

I keep telling you I am a Christian mom, and I don’t think Newt is playing well with the conservative women voters. He needs to ramp up his message if he hopes to get our votes, and I mean the message that he is not aymore the kink of person that takes advantage or for his own selfish desires hurts those who have chosen him for marriage or office


165 posted on 01/21/2012 8:26:59 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: milwguy

Did you ever wonder why they weren’t released? Could it be that they would vindicate Gingrich?


166 posted on 01/21/2012 8:27:31 AM PST by Amntn
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To: milwguy
Romney is a lying liberal.

We are trying to replace Senor Obama; we are not trying to nominate someone who could be Obamas VP.

If Romney was a dynamic real conservative; people would probably overlook his weird religion.

167 posted on 01/21/2012 8:31:06 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: milwguy
gingrich

How am I supposed to ignore all that now?

And that just barely scratches the surface. He is statist monster, always has been, always will be. People lap up the BS from his campaign like they never saw a political candidate spout his carefully crafting talking points before. To a certain extent I can understand why: everything that this Country was founded upon and once stood for has been driven hard into a ditch (quite deliberately) over the past 100 years, especially the last ten, and even more so during the last three.

There is another statist monster in the WH placed there to hasten this country's ruin and most of us that know better are in an absolute panic over it. Many of us viewed Palin as our collective last chance to begin the process of stopping our destruction and starting to turn it around. Even Palin, with the tremendous groundswell of support (both $$$ & GoTV) would have faced extremely daunting odds going against that machine (if you are the least bit honest with yourself, you have to admit that there will be widespread fraud, intimidation, & cheating at a scale never seen before in this country's politics). Seriously, do you really think that they are going to “go quietly” at this point?

They made a calculated gamble after the 2008 election to go “all in” (and risk the level of pushback that we have seen grow over the past 3 years) rather than continue the “slow boil” trend of the past several decades. Is it going to work? So far the jury is still out on that but if you look around at the mind-numbed zombies walking around that will be voting in November, what do you think?

So yeah, it is a natural reaction to be in a panic mode at this point, hence the tendency is to grasp onto whichever candidate that remains that we think is going to be our political savior. Most likely this emotional reaction has never been more pronounced by Conservatives that are aware and understand what has been happening over the years to absolutely and purposefully DESTROY our beloved Country. That is why, in my opinion, people that certainly should and do know better, are willing to overlook the absolutely atrocious public record of someone and scramble to his support. It is an emotional reaction to an existential threat. What else should we expect at this point?

It is truly sad and lamentable that it has come to this point, but it has. It isn't like we weren't warned over the decades, but most of those warnings were cast aside as “crazy talk” because the Normalcy Bias is a very powerful force. How many times has each of thought in our minds (or even vocalized the sentiment) “it can't happen here, this is the good old US of A” over the past decades? In some ways our devoted patriotism and love of our Country has served to blind us to the working of the enemies that have been steadily and quietly (until the more recent past) turning up the heat on the pot. So now it has come to this point, a megalomaniacal self-proclaimed globalist and full-bore big government statist is our “Conservative” choice. I remain less than thrilled at that prospect.

168 posted on 01/21/2012 8:31:48 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: milwguy
Newt has not run for office for years. His baggage will be exposed over and over until the elctroate chokes on it.
The Kimmy Swaggert ‘I have sinned’ rhetoric will not work against Obama. The indignant blame the media tactic he used in the debate will be useless in the general election.

People are sick of all dirty media crap....we just don't care anymore. You see what the reaction was to the ex wife.....boring!

As I said, we've heard it all before and it doesn't have the desired impact the liberals are trying to achieve.

169 posted on 01/21/2012 8:32:44 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: battletank
You mean those ethics complaints that were all dismissed?

So that $300,000 sanction -- the first and largest ever assessed against a Speaker of the House -- was just a donation to the dance committee, even though he had to borrow part of it from Bob Dole and pay it in installments. [/s]


170 posted on 01/21/2012 8:34:30 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: OwenKellogg

So, according to your mores, Reagan should never have been president. Former liberal democrat, he divorced from his first wife, Hell no, Reagan was not qualified.


171 posted on 01/21/2012 8:34:44 AM PST by Sea Parrot (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. — Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: milwguy

ROTFL! Another hysterical Romulan insider...they are everywhere today. LOL. Loving this Newtiful day. G-d help the people of the USA to take these crooked jerks down.


172 posted on 01/21/2012 8:36:45 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: milwguy

You are judging Newt as you did Cain-—trial by news allegations.

Obama and the LSM love you.

Where are all Cain’s accusers now?

You do not remember Newt’s masterful tenure as Speaker of the House in the 90’s or you would not be denigrating him here.


173 posted on 01/21/2012 8:37:31 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Sea Parrot
Former liberal democrat, he divorced from his first wife, Hell no, Reagan was not qualified.

Yep, let's just vote for Jimmy Carter, he's a good, moral man, who's been only married once, and has no baggage. /s

174 posted on 01/21/2012 8:37:40 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Newt is the bulldozer we’ve been waiting for.....

I second the motion!


175 posted on 01/21/2012 8:39:50 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: CAluvdubya

Newt is the bulldozer we’ve been waiting for.....

I second the motion!


176 posted on 01/21/2012 8:40:30 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: milwguy

“What kind of man sends out his daughters from his first marriage to protect him from allegations (part of which we know is true, ie adultery) from his second wife?”

I doubt he sent them anywhere. I be they are as competent and sometimes ornery as Newt himself is. Good on them.

And good on Newt Gingrich!


177 posted on 01/21/2012 8:41:01 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: yldstrk
...and I mean the message that he is not aymore the kink of person that takes advantage or for his own selfish desires hurts those who have chosen him for marriage or office

Let's take a look at these "wives" for a moment, since there seems to be concern that they may have been "hurt"...

Wife #1 was Newt's high school teacher, who by today's standards would have been a child molester. I doubt there is much sympathy for her "hurt".

Wife #2 broke off an affair with a married father of 3 right before she began her affair with Newt. A serial adulterer herself, I don't see too many Christian women here in SC overly concerned with her "hurt", either.

There are no clean hands in this sordid saga, but sympathy for Newt's ex-wives is a non-starter.

178 posted on 01/21/2012 8:42:14 AM PST by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: milwguy

I’ll tell you why Newt is enjoying the level of support he has.

People are damn sick and tired of wimpy, sissy, I can work with democrats tpye republicans.

Whatever Newt’s flaws may be, he’s a scrapper, and I respect that.


179 posted on 01/21/2012 8:45:04 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: billys kid
I smell a beckybot who is a nit-wit-mit bot.

What is a beckybot? And no, Mitt is at the bottom of my list of preferred. Not that it really matters. When I was critical of Cain, many on here were 'well who are you for then?' At the time, there were 6 in the race. I would tell them -- my state primary isn't until late May. By then it will be over. I will wait to see who is still standing by then. That 6 is down to 3 and, in all probability, one more will drop out before or immediately after SuperTuesday. In 2008 McCain [on my NEVER list] had won the nomination before my state primary.

I would hope for a brokered convention, except the numbnuts would probably nominate Jeb and he is on my NEVER ANOTHER BUSH list.

The options are getting fewer. And it will be the Republican or Obama. No wonder 65% who voted in the IA Primary wanted someone else who wasn't on the ticket.
180 posted on 01/21/2012 8:46:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: dirtboy

Mitts tax returns will kill his candidacy as surely as Newts marital transgressions and ethics reports will kill his. That is why I am in favor of nobody and hope they all go on to the point noone has enough delegates to win the nomination.


181 posted on 01/21/2012 8:47:12 AM PST by milwguy
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To: bolobaby
I’ve seen a couple other posters get zotted

I counted three on the same thread just this morning....bringing the total to five since yesterday afternoon. And those are just the ones I spotted....

182 posted on 01/21/2012 8:47:50 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: TFMcGuire

Love Newt’s message, but the messenger is fatally flawed.


183 posted on 01/21/2012 8:49:21 AM PST by milwguy
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To: dirtboy
"It smells like ... ozone."

:) It's suicide watch for the sinister Count Romula following today.

Awh...what a life in flyover..just sit back and watch the DC and NY ducks fall from the sky while the TEA PARTY people reappear out of nowhere to shoot down their little dreams.

BAHWHAHAHA!..Go SC and Go TEA Party!

184 posted on 01/21/2012 8:49:42 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Sea Parrot

So, according to your mores, Reagan should never have been president. Former liberal democrat, he divorced from his first wife, Hell no, Reagan was not qualified.


I’m not sure how you got that from my post. I’m a Newt fan. I’m a Reagan fan.


185 posted on 01/21/2012 8:49:42 AM PST by OwenKellogg (Gingrich / Robinson 2012!)
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To: yldstrk

You said Newt called Marianne a liar. You, sir, are the liar because Newt never said that.


186 posted on 01/21/2012 8:51:02 AM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

And 1802 is so much like 2012. Dream on, FDR tried to tpack the Supreme Court and even though he had big majorities in both houses, his fellow Democrats would not even go along with such an abuse of power. I would look at more recent history as far more relevant than that of the early days of the republic.


187 posted on 01/21/2012 8:52:10 AM PST by milwguy
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To: bolobaby
I’ve seen a couple other posters get zotted

I counted three on the same thread just this morning....bringing the total to five since yesterday afternoon.

188 posted on 01/21/2012 8:53:17 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Amntn

They weren’t released because the House is an incestuous bunch of hypocrites who protect their own, R of D


189 posted on 01/21/2012 8:54:04 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy

Every woman I have talked to personally says that the ex is lying. They, and I, think she was clingy, needy, and manipulative and was jealous of Newt putting so much time in his career. When he said Colista would allow him to do what he wanted he meant in his career. His ex needs to lie about that to protect her own low self esteem. She’s a vindictive, nasty, and jealous person trying to bring him down to get revenge. Now it has come out that she actually tried to profit off his position and the FBI actually investigated her. This is backfiring on her just as the whole thing with Congress accusing him backfired on them and will again.


190 posted on 01/21/2012 8:54:04 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: zzeeman

Ah. You have forgottent the 90’s-—or never paid attention to them.

Newt governed Conservatively and masterfully. He orchestrated a GOP takover of the house by making and keeping the conservative Contract with America.

of all the present candidates running, he is most consistent with the world view of Ronald Reagan.


191 posted on 01/21/2012 8:58:25 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: milwguy
This year it seems to me is about electability: Newt is not electable. Period. He won't reassure independents, he will scare a lot of middle class women and he isn't reliable on social issues either.

The country is not the 1980's America, it's the 2012 America and the media is going to kill Newt by making him seem crazy if he's the nominee.

I want to get rid of Obama, and to quote Glenn Beck (a first for me): if a shoe is running against Obama, I'm going to vote for the shoe.
192 posted on 01/21/2012 9:01:47 AM PST by Acrobat (Remind me again why I moved from Washington to California?)
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To: CynicalBear
Women usually know when to take the woman's side...it's complicated.

The consensus in my circle is “Gold Digger” and major player. She wasn't some little innocent intern..that's for sure...and her timing was more than vile and manipulative..which makes me think she was horrible to live with. No sympathy...

193 posted on 01/21/2012 9:02:22 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: TomGuy

I had a perfect good retort, MORON.


194 posted on 01/21/2012 9:03:51 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: TomGuy

“The options are getting fewer. And it will be the Republican or Obama. No wonder 65% who voted in the IA Primary wanted someone else who wasn’t on the ticket.”

Well, Mr. T,

Perhaps you should have run in the primaries yourself and satisfied the 65%.

We Fight with what we have. Some of those running would have made excellent presidents. And all would have been excellent compared to Obama.

Some of you sillies are allowing the news media to do your thinking for you. Axelrod is inside your brains and you haven’t a clue you are being manipulated.


195 posted on 01/21/2012 9:05:32 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: milwguy

IBTZ.


196 posted on 01/21/2012 9:06:49 AM PST by matthew fuller (Mitt is not a used car salesman- he's an aborted fetus salesman! http://www.stopstericycle.com/)
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To: milwguy
Newt's issues are known. People are still willing to support him because he has actually made significant political achievements and can articulate the issues.

Mitt has deliberately made himself a cipher. No thanks.

And no thanks to a brokered convention, either. That is a recipe for disaster.

197 posted on 01/21/2012 9:06:57 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: milwguy

“Anyone who is to beat obama will need to beat him on the issues”

That’s one thing Mr. Romney AIN’T gonna beat Obama on....


198 posted on 01/21/2012 9:12:33 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: milwguy

Sir, You are nuts.

Do you not realize we may not have a republic if Zero wins or steals another term?

Look at his keen interest in the Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, and Honduran politics of the past few years.

I believe Zero is planning a Chavezesque takeover of the US.

Gingrich has a proven track record in his legislative career. And Romney has a record of his executive decisions as well. Gingrich’s grades are far superior.


199 posted on 01/21/2012 9:13:08 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"I’ve seen a couple other posters get zotted//"

The boss is sleeping. He was up until around 5am having a zot party. Soon as he get's up..some pinheads are gonna roll!

200 posted on 01/21/2012 9:13:31 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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