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Michael Moore: America 'Founded on Genocide and Built on the Backs of Slaves'
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/01/21/michael-moore-america-founded-genocide-and-built-backs-slaves ^

Posted on 01/21/2012 6:34:18 PM PST by chessplayer

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To: chessplayer

The only movie of MM’s I want to see is one of muzzies sawing at his neck with a rusty knife...


61 posted on 01/21/2012 10:22:54 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: chessplayer

62 posted on 01/21/2012 11:22:51 PM PST by Trillian
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To: muawiyah

While most of the Indians who died, died of disease, it is a fact that the Massachusetts and Maine colony legislatures voted to pay a bounty for Indian scalps, a higher price for men’s scalps, a lower price for women’s and children’s, in order to kill off or drive away the tribes who kept making raids on the towns. This is genocide even if it was a local and time-limited genocide, even if it was a response to attacks.

The Great Migration, of Puritans to New England, was between 1620 and the early 1640s. Nearly all of my New England ancestors arrived then, not later, and they multiplied. Northern New England was mostly settled by Great Migration Puritans. The natural increase was greater in the 1700s, the 1600s being hard times, what with hunger, Indian attacks, and disease (from being hungry, and crowded in fortified towns to escape Indian attacks.) Immigration stayed relatively low until the 1800s.

Hanta virus: carried by rodents. Europeans aren’t immune. If it was a New World plague, the Indians ought to have had better immunity than the Europeans. My vote is for Old World diseases, small pox, measles, influenza, etc.

Either way, I’m not consumed by white guilt or victor’s guilt or better immunity guilt.


63 posted on 01/21/2012 11:26:59 PM PST by heartwood
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To: muawiyah
"tens of millions"

If you take the entire north american continent, maybe. Although the numbers are in dispute, the indian population of north america probably numbered around ten million with the great bulk of the pre-european settlement indian population of it in central america. North of the Rio Grande, the Indian population most likely didn't number over a few million. Hunter-gatherer societies simply do not generate mass amounts of people. The europeans who settled the land north of the Rio Grande faced a virtually uninhabited land for the most part. In fact, the land west of the Missouri River and east of the Sierra Nevadas, is still largely unpopulated.

64 posted on 01/22/2012 4:05:05 AM PST by driftless2
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To: ClearCase_guy

Michael More...He’s more than America.


65 posted on 01/22/2012 5:54:15 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: driftless2
Not everybody North of the Rio Grande was a hunter or a gatherer.

But I think I was referring to THE AMERICAS, and just Mexico probably had nearer 50 million than not.

66 posted on 01/22/2012 6:20:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: chessplayer
Michael Moore is a blithering fool. The America I live in was founded by men and women immigrating into the country and homesteading in the slave-free heartland. The only massacre in our history is when 5 neighbors of my great-great-grandparents were murdered by a group of Indians in Acton Township Minnesota. My great-great-uncle, a foreign speaking immigrant, was unable to help protect them, because he was off fighting a war to end slavery, at the time. He was later killed in that war and was unable to enjoy the fruits of this sacrifice.

To call our country "founded on genocide and built on the backs of slaves" only proves how ignorant Moore really is.

67 posted on 01/22/2012 6:43:47 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: heartwood
It's genocide when you nearly exterminate an identifiable ethnic group.

The New Englanders come up short of that on any fair analysis of the situation.

In reality, the winters of 1646 and 1647 left European settlers in 1648 in the cat bird's seat ~ the Indians died of disease, as did many of the Europeans.

The Indians had no great reservoir of Indians to draw on to replenish their numbers. The Europeans brought in more Europeans.

It's noteworthy that the 300+year war between the Iroquois and the Mohicans (over the fur trade) ENDED. The Mohican residual were adopted by the Oneida, as were later on many of the Brotherton Indians (Europeanized Christian Indians from throughout New England and Lower New York).

By 1676 ~ a propitious date, Indians in New England had lost all political power and the smart ones were leaving the area.

The only Indians with any authority in the East turned out to be the Iroquois, and it wasn't until 1831 that the Europeans (now called Americans) broke their economic structure by turning the Oneida lands over to recent illegal aliens.

68 posted on 01/22/2012 6:47:10 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: LukeL

Every Tax payer is a slave. And this Government is the biggest of slave holders since the Pyramids.


69 posted on 01/22/2012 7:17:47 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Right Brother

What shocks me is that michael is able to walk and breath at the same time with the limited brain power he has.


70 posted on 01/22/2012 9:43:07 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: chessplayer

Michael Moore: America ‘Founded on Genocide and Built on the Backs of Slaves’

Michael Moore: Built Out Of Back Bacon.


71 posted on 01/22/2012 5:10:35 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (...And I'm All Out Of Gum.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Howard Zinn, author of “A People’s History of the United States” should sue tubby.


72 posted on 01/22/2012 11:14:54 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: muawiyah

I take into consideration the fact that most historians are liberal and have an agenda. But after reading various articles about this subject on the internet, even after decades of contention, it seems most historians believe north of the Rio Grande there was maybe only two or three million pre-Columbus inhabitants. Central America was more conducive to population growth, and of course the Aztecs and Mayas did have cities where populations could build. But fifty million people at one time in Mexico? There’s absolutely no proof of that.


73 posted on 01/24/2012 6:02:37 AM PST by driftless2
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To: chessplayer

I can hardly wait until this fat scumbag dies of congestive heart failure.

It is quite possible I will visit his gravesite and piss on it.


74 posted on 01/24/2012 6:05:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: driftless2
The Aztecs and Mayas, etc. ALL lived in Mexico. Classical Mexico also included areas now called Guatemala, et al.

The American Midwest had the ability to support vast populations and did so.

Corn is a wonderful food. So is squash. So is the bean!

Brazil had vast areas under cultivation. The Amazon jungle hasn't always been jungle. Current research demonstrates that the populations in the Americas were far greater than imagined by earlier researchers who simply didn't have the tools to do the job.

75 posted on 01/24/2012 6:20:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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