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Santorum Says He Will Remain in Race Through Florida
NY Times 'blogs ^ | Saturday, January 21, 2012 | Richard A. Oppel, Jr.

Posted on 01/21/2012 7:42:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Rick Santorum said he would be pleased with a third-place finish in South Carolina Saturday but vowed to stay in the presidential race through the Florida primary no matter what.

He also blasted his "desperate" rival Mitt Romney for perpetrating "cheap stuff" as Mr. Romney's position as front runner here melted away the past week...

"We finally were given the victory in Iowa," Mr. Santorum said. "If we had had it two weeks ago, it might be a very different situation. It might have been a very different race."

Mr. Santorum also said he was disappointed in Mr. Romney after some South Carolina voters were subjected to so-called "robo calls" -- automated messages -- that said Mr. Santorum had endorsed Mr. Romney. (He did endorse Mr. Romney -- in 2008, as the calls stated, but obviously not this time, and the calls made no mention that Mr. Santorum is no longer endorsing him.)...

Mr. Romney was "2-and-0 going into South Carolina and looking like 3-and-0," Mr. Santorum said, adding that, now, that "may be a 1-and-2 -- and a not a particularly strong 1-and-2."

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Iowa; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: florida; iowa; massachusetts; mittromney; newhampshire; pennsylvania; ricksantorum; santorum; santorum4romney; southcarolina
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Rick Santorum visiting Amicks Ferry Fire Station in Chapin, S.C., on voting day. [Kirsten Luce for The New York Times]

Santorum Says He Will Remain in Race Through Florida

1 posted on 01/21/2012 7:42:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

One and done?


2 posted on 01/21/2012 7:43:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“We finally were given the victory in Iowa,” Mr. Santorum said. “If we had had it two weeks ago, it might be a very different situation. It might have been a very different race.”

Too bad you still looked more like 1 guy lost in a field of 8 instead of looking like a winner.


3 posted on 01/21/2012 7:44:54 PM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rick did get a raw deal in Iowa. I think his chance is gone now, but I do understand why he is reluctant to fold up quite yet.


4 posted on 01/21/2012 7:45:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rick I love you, but this is bigger than you. America is at a crossroads and Romney or Obama sinks this nation. We need to defeat Romney and your candidacy at this point can only benefit Romney.

Get out.


5 posted on 01/21/2012 7:45:47 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wholly agree with his views on family and he’s a great man...but I do think for the better of conservatism he should endorse Newt and quit.


6 posted on 01/21/2012 7:45:55 PM PST by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Drop out please.


7 posted on 01/21/2012 7:46:49 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL

That’s cruel dude


8 posted on 01/21/2012 7:47:27 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: SunkenCiv

I prefer Rick, but even if I didn’t I think that this is a reasonable decision. It’s still early. Only a very small percentage of the delegates have been selected. If it looks like his remaining in the race will throw it to Romney, I would assume that Rick will exit. But Newt is somewhat of a loose cannon, and he has some baggage—both personally and ideologically. If he proves unpopular with the general public, it would be good to have a fallback position in Rick.


9 posted on 01/21/2012 7:47:27 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: SunkenCiv

it’s reasonable that RICk wants to stay in. He ought to go somewhere that NEWT is not mounting a challenge and start fresh taking on MITT. Not sure where that would be. MINN? MICH?

Florida makes no sense.


10 posted on 01/21/2012 7:50:29 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Wholeheartedly agree.


11 posted on 01/21/2012 7:53:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Rick_Michael; big'ol_freeper; ari-freedom

I think he’ll endorse Newt, depending of course on the deal he’s offered from Romney — and he will be offered some kind of a deal. Newt won’t offer him anything, not least because Santorum vomited up some crap about how the ex-wife’s allegations about Newt spoke to issues of ethics or character or whatever it was.

If he drops out, Rick Santorum *should* endorse Newt Gingrich. If he’s not able to raise money (and it’s likely that he’ll have some trouble now), he won’t be competitive. Hence, I’d prefer that he drop out now, ahead of Florida, endorse Newt, condemn Mitt, and get a nice talking head job on one of the networks for the duration of the campaign.


12 posted on 01/21/2012 7:58:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The point of a primary is to give the voters of the party a choice, some people seem bound and determined to deny us that.


13 posted on 01/21/2012 8:02:03 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Rome2000

That pic? Yeah, that was what they had though. :’D


14 posted on 01/21/2012 8:09:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

It’s reasonable to conclude that Newt’s roller-coaster ride will continue until either the convention, or until he calls it quits because of the math.


15 posted on 01/21/2012 8:10:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Hey, you’re the only one who knew I was a candidate. Oh, you mean Rick. ;’)


16 posted on 01/21/2012 8:10:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

That’s for sure. Oh, you mean the election thing... ;’)


17 posted on 01/21/2012 8:10:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: GeronL

People can still vote for any name on the ballot, plus any they can write in. When “some people” become “most people”, it’s called democracy.


18 posted on 01/21/2012 8:13:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Even with the supposed Evangelical leaders voting to support you, You came in THIRD with the evangelical voters. Even Romney got more evangelicals than you did!

Time to get out. Way past time to get out. Do it now. Don't embarrass yourself in Florida.

You didn't come in third, you came in second last. One from the bottom.

19 posted on 01/21/2012 8:13:24 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Can’t improve on what you said.

Santorum is a good man, and good men are motivated by higher goals than ego and vanity. I think this will be reconciled with his graceful departure sometime in the next week.

He could hang in with what little money he has, but I think he will realize that he should not.


20 posted on 01/21/2012 8:22:18 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SunkenCiv

Santorum got a raw deal with Iowa, and I don’t think it was an accident. The GOP leadership wanted to mess with the results to help ROmney look better than he is. We need more decent people like Palin, Santorum, and the other “good guys” leading what used to be our party, instead of the leaders who act like Democrats. Romney disgusts me, both for his leftist values and for the tactics being used on his behalf and presumably with his tacit approval.

I don’t think Santorum should withdraw now, not even to endorse Newt, even though Newt is my favorite of those still standing. We should find out if Santorum’s campaigning skills have grown and see how he does in Florida. If he doesn’t move up substantially, then he should withdraw, and we’ll learn a lot about him by how he bows out. If he endorses Romney for a slot in the “Romney Administration”, then I will never support Santorum again. If he simply withdraws or endorses “conservatism” or Newt, then I’ll be impressed.


21 posted on 01/21/2012 8:25:43 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Newt won’t offer him anything, not least because Santorum vomited up some crap about how the ex-wife’s allegations about Newt spoke to issues of ethics or character or whatever it was.”

yeah I remembered that. Wrong answer dude! He should’ve excoriated the media along with Newt instead of trying to use this for his advantage.


22 posted on 01/21/2012 8:28:01 PM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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23 posted on 01/21/2012 8:28:09 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SunkenCiv
. "If we had had it two weeks ago, it might be a very different situation. It might have been a very different race."

Would you like cheese with that whine, ex-Senator?

24 posted on 01/21/2012 8:35:03 PM PST by newzjunkey (Next up "winner-take-all" FL ... we must derail Romney's inevitability.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bravo to Rick for his high teens %age! He beat crazy Paul too. I think he did well tonight.

He should definitely stay in the race. Romney will be trying to bring Gingrich done now, with over and underhanded throws. We need to see how Gingrich weathers this, and in a state that might be more favorable to Mitt than SC. We may really be glad we have an heir and a spare, as they say.

I loved 3 of the 4 speeches tonight, and Paul’s wasn’t that bad, though it went on forever. Santorum’s speech was so natural and great. It is very wrong to think he is hurting anyone. Votes for Santorum are votes for Santorum. Period. It’s an open race. Go, conservatives, go!


25 posted on 01/21/2012 8:37:47 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SunkenCiv

He’s pathetic and stupid.


26 posted on 01/21/2012 8:53:40 PM PST by lilyfreeper
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To: All; Engraved-on-His-hands
There's a serious problem your thinking. The primary calendar itself.

Though giving up half its delegates to do be, FL is "winner take all" so a win for Romney reestablishes his momentum going into a certain win in Mormon-heavy Nevada caucus.

It's likely the Maine, Colorado caucuses will be Romney territory as well; the Missouri primary doesn't determine their delegates (that's done in a March caucus) to it's technically irrelevant.

Michigan is Romney's birth state and his dad was governor; he'll win easily--Santorum's focus on manufacturing won't help there. As a result of the calendar, after FL, AZ is the next "obvious" competitive state and it's vote is more than a month from now, just before Super Tuesday.

Santorum can wait around like a vulture hoping to see Newt stumble, siphoning off delegates and helping Romney or exit ahead of FL and maybe help prevent Romney from that big prize which restores his momentum and the story of inevitability.

This week is a time for choosing for the Senator. Is he a willing tool of the establishment (like in Thune vs. Spector) or does he care more about his issues?

If the race was just Newt vs. Santorum, I'd be all for it but that isn't happening. Santorum's persistence can only assist Romney's rebound. If Santorum really truly believes Newt is that unstable, too great a risk, that Newt will eventually flame out, Rick should drop and endorse Romney.

27 posted on 01/21/2012 8:56:52 PM PST by newzjunkey (Next up "winner-take-all" FL ... we must derail Romney's inevitability.)
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To: newzjunkey

For all the floral thinking going on around here and there, that reeks with squish for Rick Bachmann to stay in the race, there are those propping him up to slow Newt and his MOMENTUM.

Rick played with the players in DC, did what needed to be done when told, to Toomey, and endorsed Specter who was the final vote for Obamacare.

His only significant financial support at this point is from the RINO machine, cash enough to bag him up and send him into Florida to assist in the kitchen sink approach they have in mind for Newt. Maybe shaves off a few points and gives Romney some time to reboot.


28 posted on 01/21/2012 9:11:33 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: Pollster1; newzjunkey

Thanks!


29 posted on 01/21/2012 9:23:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: ari-freedom; faucetman

Thanks!


30 posted on 01/21/2012 9:23:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Yaelle

I think there’s a case to be made for Santorum to stay in, because he’s an additional (and possibly more harsh) anti-Romney campaigner, *and* Paul’s numbers will probably rise a little if Rick drops out.


31 posted on 01/21/2012 9:23:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: RitaOK

“Rick played with the players in DC, did what needed to be done when told, to Toomey, and endorsed Specter who was the final vote for Obamacare.”

Newt endorsed Dede Scozzafalooza without being told so I’m not sure who wins this round.


32 posted on 01/21/2012 9:31:58 PM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It hurt him that he didn’t get the win quickly in Iowa because New Hampshire was days away and he lost that rino state big. Coupled with tonight is not good. But he lost South Carolina because of Newt’s debate performance.


33 posted on 01/21/2012 9:33:33 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: ari-freedom

” Newt endorsed Dede Scozzafalooza without being told so I’m not sure who wins this round. “ <<<

For what it’s worth, Newt did a fairly good job explaining that on live TV. I will try to look that up, because you have a very good point. It is not that Newt is error free that’s for sure, but because he can articulate what he is thinking with seeming ease, he explain things that make even the bloopers sound quite rational and coming from sound motives. Where he admits errors, he admits to them openly and respects us enough not to try to explain them away, (which he probably could do, actually.) LOL! Thx.


34 posted on 01/21/2012 9:41:12 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: SunkenCiv
Rick Santorum 2020!!!!!!
35 posted on 01/21/2012 9:45:27 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: GeronL
The point of a primary is to give the voters of the party a choice, some people seem bound and determined to deny us that.

Great point.

Amazing how people were complaining that their state wasn't being given a say in the primaries. Once 'their' candidate wins one, though, it's 'Get out now!' to anyone who might take votes from him.

We're all for everyone having their say, until it starts to impact the candidate we prefer.

36 posted on 01/21/2012 9:47:34 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: ari-freedom

I googled Newt-explains-Dede-endorsement. Up popped the youtube explanation of his appearance on GRETA. It was good. The title at youtube if you to care to see it....

< Newt fires back at criticism over support for Dede Scozzafava - YouTube >


37 posted on 01/21/2012 9:51:52 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: SunkenCiv

If Newt can turn the tables on Mitt, then so can Rick.


38 posted on 01/21/2012 9:55:10 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: lilyfreeper

BS.


39 posted on 01/21/2012 10:12:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Kevmo

It’ll be a tag team match in Florida, and maybe beyond if Romney fades away like a bad fart.


40 posted on 01/21/2012 10:18:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Mozilla

Newt’s turnaround was due to his debate performance, probably in the main because of his turning the tables on the partisan media shills. MSNBC’s jackoffs putting up a confederate flag behind the four Pubbies’ pictures could help turnout in Florida, assuming it’s talked about.


41 posted on 01/21/2012 10:19:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks RitaOK.

“Newt Gingrich - Support for Dede Scozzafava 2010 ( pro-choice, pro gay marriage)”

became:

“I too dreamed of trashing Newt in my maidenform undies but woke to the zot.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2836065/posts


42 posted on 01/21/2012 10:21:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rick, don’t pull a Fred Thompson and help split the conservative vote (or like Van Hilleary over Ed Bryant in 2006 which gave us lib Bob Corker in TN - TN guys keep screwing up) that gave McCain the nomination.


43 posted on 01/21/2012 10:27:05 PM PST by Fledermaus (I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Each of these 3 guys are 1 for 3. Expecting or asking any of them to drop out before FL is unreasonable. They have all been the flavor of the day. If this thing continues to sway back and forth no one will have a lock on the convention, and then anything can happen.


44 posted on 01/21/2012 11:24:31 PM PST by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ll stick with Rick. I’m not quite ready to hold my nose and support Newt just yet. There is something to be said for decency.


45 posted on 01/22/2012 12:20:06 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: Fledermaus; Controlling Legal Authority

Gingrich pulled from Romney, apparently more strongly than he pulled from Santorum. It doesn’t seem likely that Santorum pulls much from Romney.


46 posted on 01/22/2012 12:22:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Rick_Michael

“I wholly agree with his views on family and he’s a great man...but I do think for the better of conservatism he should endorse Newt and quit.”

What if Newt’s momentum is temporary, then we are stuck with Romney. After only three contests, of which Rick won one of them, it’s too soon to drop out.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 1:44:56 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Eagles6
Amen! I couldn't agree more. Here in California, we conservatives elected a guy for governor, who as a candidate took on the media and promised to slash spending, and wooed us with his comments about the Dems in Sacramento being girly men. Like a bunch of love struck tweens, we chose this actor over a tried and trued conservative, Tom McClintoc.

Boy did we get screwed. Arnold was just an actor, playing the part of a conservative, just to get elected, and turned out to be the biggest girly man himself when it came to standing up to the Dems.

With Gingrich, I see the same thing taking place. The only difference I see between Gingrich and Schwarzeneggar, is Gingrich is shorter and doesn't have an Austrian accent.

This is why I support Santorum. He may not woo a crowd like Gingrich, but I know I can mostly trust what I'm voting for. Santorum isn't perfect either, but compared to Romney and Gingrich, he's head and shoulders above both when it comes to morals and character, which is the most important thing to me now when it comes to choosing a candidate.

I went the pragmatic route with Arnold, and after that experience, no more. If Rick doesn't make it to the California primary, I'm doing a write in, because I can't in good conscious vote for Rino Dee or Rino Dumb if I'm left with that kind of choice.

48 posted on 01/22/2012 7:39:30 AM PST by Victory Rocks (Obama's hope, is to tax all our change.)
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To: Victory Rocks; All

Santorum:

Voted AGAINST increasing the number of immigration investigators:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00201

VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, paid for by reductions in state grants.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00179

VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00058

Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00154

SANTORUM: Trim Social Security now- even if painful.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7O34Bpp42k-IlMMNiOLBkYF2zNw?docId=b1cff9ecefe24ca6ae1764a09761e361

VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00353

VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00352

Voted to increase the social services block grant from $1 BILLION to $2 BILLION
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00302

VOTED TO RAID SOCIAL SECURITY instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00056

Voted to impose a uniform federal tax mandate on states to force them to allow convicted , rapists, arsonists drug kingpins and all other ex-convicts to vote in federal elections.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00031

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Santorum; Big government spender:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt6XCZz2X1Y&feature=player_embedded

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums

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Santorum needs to put his ego aside, place his country before himself, drop out and go back to wherever he came from.

Rick Perry is twice the Conservative Santorum is!
He deserves the VP slot.

Since 2000 he has led the second largest state in the union on to be the most successful economically.

Perry stated that in his administration he would start all countries getting U.S. foreign aid at ZERO, until they proved to be our allies.

He was also the first to bring the war on religion to the forefront.

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49 posted on 01/22/2012 12:39:50 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Victory Rocks

Great example. We are at the edge of the cliff and the abyss beckons. Electing another “moderate” will not slow our descent if we go over the edge.


50 posted on 01/22/2012 1:05:14 PM PST by Eagles6
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