Skip to comments.Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants
Posted on 01/21/2012 11:52:44 PM PST by moonshinner_09
Pedro moved to the Kansas City area about 13 years ago and has held the same job for 11. Though he sometimes struggles to pay bills, he knows most people think he should receive no public aid. Hes an illegal immigrant. He doesnt deserve handouts. He understands that. Ive never asked for anything for myself, said Pedro, who didnt want his last name used to protect his family. Never. I just work. Work hard. A new debate swirling around Kansas, though, isnt about Pedro. Its about two of his three children. They were born here, and one day they will have drivers licenses and the right to vote, just like any other U.S. citizen. Early last year, when they needed food assistance, they got it. Pedros family received nearly $300 a month in food stamps. Enough to buy milk, eggs and meat, fruit and yogurt. Now, they get nothing. Neither do hundreds of other Kansas families who, like Pedros, are a mix of undocumented immigrants and U.S. citizens.
At a time when Gov. Sam Brownback has vowed to reduce child poverty, the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services a state agency the governor controls made a policy change that eliminated food stamps for hundreds of low-income U.S. children whose parents are illegal immigrants. For more households, benefits were reduced. I have to wonder if the governor is really on board with the policy, said Sister Therese Bangert of the Sisters of Charity of Leavenworth. I wonder if he understands the ramifications of this policy, if he understands whats happening to the children. The governors office did not return several calls and email requests for comment.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...
When are these slime-encrusted, open borders fetishists going to do a story on the poor, single-income family that doesn't have a father because he was run over by an intoxicated illegal alien who the cops didn't detain of because of his city's sanctuary city policy?
Gads...this story sounds like “victim of the month” who was trotted out at every Clinton STOTU speech....or maybe the equivalent of the story about the woman who used her dead sister’s false teeth that was used of the excuse to pass Obamacare.
I’ve had enough of the selective victomhood.
So many people do not understand that illegals undercut wages, taking jobs from citizens- and the illegals can’t make it on the low wages either so are on every possible program. Illegals are truly the elephant in the room when it comes to the economy and I will not believe any politician is serious about fixing the economy until they address this issue. I want NO cuts to the military, seniors, or any agency/anyone else until illegals are cut.
If you feed a stray dog, it will never leave.
Pedro moved to the Kansas City area about 13 years ago and has held the same job for 11. Though he sometimes struggles to pay bills, he knows most people think he should receive no public aid.He's doing a job and eating the free food that Americans won't eat.
One comment below the article was dead on. The companies that employ illegals are not paying them much so the families qualify for welfare benefits.
In other words, we, the American taxpayers, are subsidizing their cheap labor.
And last time I checked, Mexico had plenty of beans and tortillas for your spawn. Go home.
Were they “born in the jurisdiction of the United States?”
Probably not. The Constitution in plain language talks about “the exclusive legislative jurisdiction” of the United States.(Federal).
It amounts to the ten square miles ceded by the states for the seat of government and all fortresses, docks, territories, etc.
That’s what it means to be “born under the jurisdiction” of the United States.
They AIN’T citizens.
The Wall Street Journal won’t like this but I’d rather have a big govt that abides by the rule of law than a small govt that has no problem with illegals.
How can he be in the country for 13 years and not be in the process of becoming a citizen?
I know it may be difficult, but it seems to me if you’re making an effort to become part of the fabric, you’re generally be given the chance to do so.
This isn’t a story about the kids being on their own (under current case law, counting as US citizens) and having trouble qualifying for welfare benefits. This is a story about his illegale dad no longer counting as head of a family. If he can’t scrape by here, maybe he should try his luck in Mexico again. Or some arrangement should be made to get Mexico to send him benefits here — really, should Mexico be bumming off the USA without even so much as a by your leave?
I fear no cigar on this one.
Oh noooo! Now they will all come back to CA where they all can eat free on the state!
“A new debate swirling around Kansas, though, isnt about Pedro. Its about two of his three children. They were born here, and one day they will have drivers licenses and the right to vote, just like any other U.S. citizen”
No, they are NOT citizens!
I am sick of hearing the fallacy to excuse the moochers and their anchor babies.
Deport them, ALL of them.
What is really unfair is for invaders to spawn children as levers to demand we let them claim “Benefits” that should be reserved only to actual Americans.
Actual Americans would feel some pressure to improve their situation, after eleven years this example is still working a job that we are to believe still leaves him needing assistance.
Apparently hoes NOT work too hard, never gets a promotion.
He needs to go back to Mexico, and take all his dependents with him.
“It is quite clear, then, that there is a citizenship of the United States, and a citizenship of a state, which are distinct from each other, and which depend upon different characteristics or circumstances in the individual.”
There was no such thing as a “citizen of the United States” before the 14th amendment. There were Citizens of the various states, “Citizen of Pennsylvania”, “Citizen of Virginia”, etc.
This isn’t how case law operates now.
Nevertheless, that is what the Slaughterhouse case tells us. That is the meaning of the 14th amendment citizenship clause.
To be a “citizen” because of the 14th amendment (and, incidentally, have “privileges and immunities” not all the protections of the Bill of Rights”), you need to be born at a place that is under the “exclusive legislative jurisdiction” of the United States federal government.
And you might as well be spitting into a tornado for all the good that does today.
One latino stole $3.2 million UI benefits using several identities. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state tapist---had some 30 identities.
REFERENCE July 21, 2006----BERGEN RECORD, NJ
Texans accused of selling counterfeit IDs (impoverished illegals "here for a better life" pay several thousand $$$ for fake ID's)
Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said.
The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force regularly runs checks.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately.
The Texas brothers consented to a search. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####
Illegal Manuel Mejia Ordonez ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower
A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation.
US Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner said 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
QUESTION How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.
I have all the answers here for Pedro on what he should do.....
OBAMA APPOINTS LA RAZA LOBBYIST CELIA MUNOZ TO KEY WH JOB We now have the most racist and divisive President in history. No other president has appointed an individual who was colluding with a foreign country try to undermine the safety and security of US citizens.
"La Raza" is a racist and anti-American organization. It's core goal is to overwhelm the American Southwest with illegal immigrants from Mexico who will eventually cause the region to break away from the US and become Mexican territory. In addition, "La Raza" has a more general leftist, pro-Islamist, anti-Western civilization global bias, as can readily be gleaned from the writings and statements of its leaders past and present. They're very much in tune with Zero's ideology.
The arrogance is palpable----Raza Studies does not even try to sugar-coat its anti-America agenda and its bloodthirsty plans to kill us off:
One Raza Studies textbook titled Occupied America, by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood- curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him, (pg. 323).
This is taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167): Supporters would execute all white males over age 16, (this is AKA the Plan of San Diego).
America-hating Raza Studies teach violence and undermining US ntl security----and preaches the need for Mexico to "re-take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation.
Course, if you oppose this, you are "heartless"....../s.
NOTE WELL: Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza/LULAC/Mecha/MALDEF indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools.
Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress.
Raul Grijalva is one of Mexicos most productive and loyal representatives in our Congress....aiding and abetting building a Third World on US soil.
Warren Buffet can feed them all if he really cared.
Pedro stole a job from an American citizen and his family and collects food stamps and welfare. Still can’t make it here and needs to return home to Mexico.
And that money, being fungible, now lets Pedro spend his other money for $300 worth of lobster and tequila. How stupid do these liberal newsrooms think their readers are? ...Oh wait. They helped get America to elect a freaking Al Sharpton-style "community organizer" from Chicago as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.
How about all those poor hungry maleducated kids in Mexico? What’s the difference between them and the Mexican kids in Kansas and Alabama? Are we so heartless as to deny them adequate food and education? It’s racist to deny them their due as human beings!
And Grijalva is my representative. Worthless POS!
Mrs. Prince of Space
The bigger the government the more corruption and the less that Rule of Law is relevant. Big government means that bureaus and agencies and burearocrats and clerks have to sign off on more and more things that people do. When something is up to a bureaucrat, a person who has no direct interest in what is being done, then that bureaucrat’s desires must be satisfied before the thing may be done. That means expensive hoops and regulations to follow and always comes with bribery to avoid all the hoops and coercion because the clerk knows he has you by the throat and can get more from you than what the regulations state.
The bigger the government the more corruption and the less that Rule of Law is relevant. Big government means that bureaus and agencies and bureacrats and clerks have to sign off on more and more things that people do. When something is up to a bureaucrat, a person who has no direct interest in what is being done, then that bureaucrat’s desires must be satisfied before the thing may be done. That means expensive hoops and regulations to follow and always comes with bribery to avoid all the hoops and coercion because the clerk knows he has you by the throat and can get more from you than what the regulations state.
Deport this bum. He is illegal. Take everything he has because he has earned it illegally. His children can return through proper channels when they are of age because (if they were born here) they are citizens. Deport him now!
Amazing that you are still allowed to speak Eglish in his district....../s
There’s something I’ve never understood about ‘anchor babies’.
Why is it that a foreign visitor can visit the U.S. legally, with his pregnant wife, and if she has the baby here, their child is NOT an American citizen by birth.
And yet, other foreigners, crossing into this country illegally, who have babies, somehow their children are ‘citizens’?
Why doesn’t the foreign visitor rule apply to illegals?
Did anybody catch this , She received a letter saying she would no longer get food stamps for her son. Initially she wondered why.
Then I came up with my own answer, Isela said. Its because of my lack of status. My lack of papers.
When she received the notice, she was making $9 an hour and working an average of 38 hours a week with no benefits. Before the policy change, her son qualified for $121 a month in food stamps. That allowed her to buy the fresh fruits and vegetables and lean meat her sons doctor said he needs.
She is working illegally and making $ 9.00 an hour, have us some document fraud going on here. to buy the fresh fruits and vegetables and lean meat her sons doctor said he needs.Her dr said, I am sure this same dr told every other kid the same story.
Pedro should just move with his little parasites to Oregon. Illegally of course.
I have zero sympathy for illegal immigrants and their anchor baby scams...... But the children are US citizens so I don’t know how Kansas is able to pull this off. Look for a Federale lawsuit from Thomas Perez scumbag at the Justice Department
How can he be in the country for 13 years and not be in the process of becoming a citizen?
Hes an illegal alien..
Hes not eligible to become an American citizen...
Hes not in this country legally..
Hes breaking the law every moment he stays..
Hes not potential American citizen material
He doesnt want to obey our laws..
He doesnt respect our Constitution or us...
he could care less about what America stands for..
Thats not why hes here..
If he was fit to be and America citizen he woulod have applied and come in the front door as an immigrant
and not broken the glass of the back door and jimmied the lock..
He didnt sneak into the US with intentions of staying and becoming an asset and responsible as a citizen...
He came here with intentions to lie and cheat and steal...
He came with intentions to get anything for free that he could...
and the fact that he can lie and receive benefits from the US government that American citizens cannot get makes it even sweeter for him...
Because I paid taxes as a single mother he steals from mothers like me when he lies and demands food stamps for his illegal alien children while paying no taxes...
While I made a dollar or 2 too much to receive food stamps for my American children, he can get them for his illegal alien children...
Who had my back in that ???
Nobody screamed not fair when I didnt receive food stamps..
Nobody whined when my children might have gone hungry..
I ate less myself when it was necessary so my children could eat...
I was under weight...
However theres a lot of fat illegal aliens..
Oh BOO HOO
Poor widdle me...
Meanwhile the illegal aliens arent short of money to buy expensive things
If they managed their money they would be able to afford food for their illegal alien children
Gosh Nana youre mean...
Notice, this was the policy of KS SRSthat placed the income of an illegal alien at the head of the line to receive food stamps ahead of others in line.
Note to FReepers: former Governor of KS was........wait for it.....Kathleen Sebelius, who is now in charge of your life and health, under Obamacare!
Better check with the "policy" for food stamps with your state to make certain that they are not ordering the same thing - wanna bet that your state has the same policy, no matter who is your governor or state legislature.
This is the problem with all of these gub'mint, "policies" come from on high and most citizens never know what's going on.