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The short, unpleasant life of John F. Kennedy
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | 1/21/12 | Jason Lewis

Posted on 01/22/2012 7:31:24 AM PST by BlueBerrier0341

Fifty one years after a young president from Massachusetts delivered a stirring inaugural address on a frigid day in the nation's capital, contemporary politicians still aspire to the Kennedy mystique.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jackkennedy; jfk; presidents

1 posted on 01/22/2012 7:31:27 AM PST by BlueBerrier0341
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To: BlueBerrier0341

Hey, Red Star Tribune! He’s dead. Killed by one of your fellow socialists. Get over it.


2 posted on 01/22/2012 7:33:47 AM PST by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: BlueBerrier0341
The short, unpleasant life ...
No Kennedy ever lived an unpleasant life, except for Rosemary.
3 posted on 01/22/2012 7:35:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Yeah, that makes sense, unpleasant. Oh, dear, he had a back injury, and yet he perservered.

By Joseph’s own account, he settled a million dollars on each of his children at 21 “so they can spit in my eye if they want to.” That’s just good parenting. That was back when a million dollars *was* a million dollars.

i.e. spare me the big boo-hoo.

He scheduled one of his back surgeries in order to be absent from the Senate during the vote on the condemnation of Joseph McCarthy.

This op-ed appears to be more of the partisan media shill attack on Republicans and conservatives. JFK was like a lot of people, he something of a social liberal (probably explains his 3000 one-night affairs) and a military hawk.


4 posted on 01/22/2012 7:44:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: BlueBerrier0341

Camelot was an omelette?


5 posted on 01/22/2012 7:46:27 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (JFK ? Marilyn? Who knew?)
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To: BlueBerrier0341

The women they married were the ones with the unpleasant lives. Was there ever such a thing as a Kennedy who didn’t cheat and drink?


6 posted on 01/22/2012 7:50:15 AM PST by albie
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To: BlueBerrier0341
JFK was secretly hospitalized in dozens of instances, was given last rites three times and was essentially kept alive, according to Reeves, by "complicated daily combinations of pills and injections".

There were massive amounts of cortisone injections to fight off Addison's disease, a life-threatening ailment at the time; more steroids for a prewar back condition that resulted in spinal fusions and botched surgeries (he was wearing a back brace the day he died); a chronic stomach condition, most likely ulcerative colitis, that kept Kennedy in agony and battling debilitating bouts of diarrhea; painkillers, hormones, stimulants, sleeping pills, and a cholesterol count somewhere around 400.

Yuck. That does sound miserable. I wouldn't want to feel that way no matter how much money and power came with it.

7 posted on 01/22/2012 7:52:45 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: SunkenCiv
This op-ed appears to be more of the partisan media shill attack on Republicans and conservatives.

Interestingly, its author, Jason Lewis, occasionally subs for Rush Limbaugh.

8 posted on 01/22/2012 7:58:45 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: albie

How unpleasant can life be when you have Frank Sinatra and Peter Lawford in Hollywood pimping for you and getting you meat like Angie Dickerson and Marilyn Monroe.

Jackie wasn’t all that bad to have to sleep with either, when no one else was around.

Money running out of his ears, treated like a rock star,the press fawning over you.

Sure 51 is young to die, too young.
My father died at 51, he wasn’t rich, he was barely middle income, but he worked hard ,paid his bills, loved his family , went to Church, worked hard in the Community with United Givers , Fire department,Highly thought of ,and kept his Johnson in his pants. He was a great man, where JFK had the trappings of a great man but the morals of an alleycat.

JFK and his brothers do not go down in my book as great men.
Just rich playboys who’s toys were our Government
.


9 posted on 01/22/2012 8:03:33 AM PST by Venturer
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To: BlueBerrier0341

His own party got him. There was a story a few days back about some Democrats getting convicted for stealing votes in an election. One of the thugs said they would do anything to win. THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO WIN.
Democrats - Thieves, Thugs, Thralls and Thickheads


10 posted on 01/22/2012 8:10:22 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Venturer

He died at age 46. The article says he was inaugurated 51 years ago.


11 posted on 01/22/2012 8:14:59 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: BlueBerrier0341
The short, unpleasant life of John F. Kennedy

Somehow I expect that a shrill leftist a la Debbie Wasserman Shultz, or possibly Sheila Jackson Lee will come to the conclusion that somehow it was Bush's Fault!

FUBO GTFO! 364 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

12 posted on 01/22/2012 8:17:09 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Sorry about that.

I guess I should have read it closer.


13 posted on 01/22/2012 8:19:38 AM PST by Venturer
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To: BlueBerrier0341

More asinine knee-padded Kennedy worship. They won’t go away, are less and less relevant to anything, and they just get goofier looking.


14 posted on 01/22/2012 9:01:21 AM PST by 4buttons
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To: Venturer

“JFK and his brothers do not go down in my book as great men.
Just rich playboys who’s toys were our Government”

I’ll second that!


15 posted on 01/22/2012 9:12:53 AM PST by Fireone (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: BlueBerrier0341

“(cynics still wonder why Lt. Kennedy’s boat was the only one in the war sliced in half by a Japanese destroyer,”

His commander must have been a cynic since he wanted a court martial for young Master Kennedy for dereliction of duty.
But Dad called the Secretary of the Navy and—like LBJ’s Silver Star—Jack was awarded the Navy Cross:
both tied for the most undeserved, but also most appreciated, medals ever awarded to future politicians.*


16 posted on 01/22/2012 9:42:46 AM PST by tumblindice (See: John Kerry, 2nd prize)
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To: Venturer

Funny thing is that I read just like you did, then I thought “Wait a minute - he wasn’t that old.” I had to look it up to verify. Then I re-read the article and saw what the “51” meant.


17 posted on 01/22/2012 10:04:46 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tumblindice
“(cynics still wonder why Lt. Kennedy’s boat was the only one in the war sliced in half by a Japanese destroyer,”

His commander must have been a cynic since he wanted a court martial for young Master Kennedy for dereliction of duty.
But Dad called the Secretary of the Navy and—like LBJ’s Silver Star—Jack was awarded the Navy Cross:
both tied for the most undeserved, but also most appreciated, medals ever awarded to future politicians.*


I suggest you check your sources. JFK's commanding officer was almost court martialed for not going out to look for JFK after they were reported missing. JFK did not receive the Navy Cross..he received the Navy and Marine Corps medal.
Kennedy fought his way into uniform, and almost lost his life. If you want to factually criticize someone..go after “willy the wanker”..our very own draft-dodger.

18 posted on 01/22/2012 10:06:47 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: tumblindice

I don’t think he was awarded a Navy Cross. It was something much farther down the line, like maybe a Navy Commendation.


19 posted on 01/22/2012 10:13:14 AM PST by DPMD
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To: A_perfect_lady; SunkenCiv
"... there is always inequity in life. Some men are killed in a war, and some men are wounded, and some men never leave the country, and some men are stationed in the Antarctic, and some are stationed in San Francisco. It’s very hard in military or in personal life to assure complete equality. Life is unfair. Some people are sick and others are well."

- JFK, March 21st 1962 press conference (no teleprompter)
It has been speculated that the last line here was referring to himself.

20 posted on 01/22/2012 10:21:48 AM PST by wideminded
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To: A_perfect_lady; SunkenCiv
"... there is always inequity in life. Some men are killed in a war, and some men are wounded, and some men never leave the country, and some men are stationed in the Antarctic, and some are stationed in San Francisco. It’s very hard in military or in personal life to assure complete equality. Life is unfair. Some people are sick and others are well."

- JFK, March 21st 1962 press conference (no teleprompter)
It has been speculated that the last line here was referring to himself.

21 posted on 01/22/2012 10:21:48 AM PST by wideminded
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To: BlueBerrier0341

The entire kennedy myth is a huge piece of unpleasantness which has done much harm to Constitution and the country.


22 posted on 01/22/2012 10:26:21 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: AFret.

If you want to factually criticize someone?????

How about JFK’s affair with a blonde lady german spy during WWII? That is what got him transferred to the Pacific. Traitorous, treasonous, anyone with less family clout would have been imprisoned for life or executed.

Due to an all night round of poker, I am..

Caddis the late riser


23 posted on 01/22/2012 10:29:12 AM PST by palmerizedCaddis (We can no longer call the annointed one ZERO, now we must call him SEVENTEEN OF NONE.)
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To: BlueBerrier0341

Sins of the Father will be visited on the Sons.


24 posted on 01/22/2012 10:29:33 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: AFret.
Read Robert Caro's book on JFK
JFK was an best an inept PT Boat commander, was almost removed from command because of an inability to properly dock his boat! In many ways his boat captaining skills were more Ensign Parker then Commander McHale! And there was going to be either a court martial or board of inquiry regarding how he got his boat cut in half on a night with very good visibility (Like why wasn't a watch assigned?) and why he was so far out if the squadron's area of operations?
He did behave very courageously after his boat's destruction there is no question of that. However he never should have gotten his command into that predicament. The Navy takes a very dim view of losing a ship (or boat!) regardless of the circumstances. But Daddy Joe stepped in and made it all better!
25 posted on 01/22/2012 10:56:31 AM PST by Reily
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To: A_perfect_lady

Agreed....if you are in constant pain no amount of money can make life pleasant.


26 posted on 01/22/2012 11:00:21 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Reily

Read Robert Caro’s book on JFK
JFK was an best an inept PT Boat commander, was almost removed from command because of an inability to properly dock his boat! In many ways his boat captaining skills were more Ensign Parker then Commander McHale! And there was going to be either a court martial or board of inquiry regarding how he got his boat cut in half on a night with very good visibility (Like why wasn’t a watch assigned?) and why he was so far out if the squadron’s area of operations?
He did behave very courageously after his boat’s destruction there is no question of that. However he never should have gotten his command into that predicament. The Navy takes a very dim view of losing a ship (or boat!) regardless of the circumstances. But Daddy Joe stepped in and made it all better!


I suggest you review “The Kennedy’s At War” by Edward J. Renehan, Jr.

I’m not going to argue with you..JFK was a brave man and well regarded by his peers and superiors. Yes, there was a board of inquiry..there always is after a materiel loss.


27 posted on 01/22/2012 11:25:02 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: AFret.
Well Caro's book says different.
Don't really care enough about the Kennedy’s to care to argue the merits of either book (Particularly since I haven't read the book you are talking about! Also there is money to be made and influence to be gained in keeping the Kennedy mystique alive.) Caro was a Kennedy worshiper when he started the book after finishing he came away with a different view. Who's right? Don't know & no longer care!
28 posted on 01/22/2012 12:06:38 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
“JFK was an best an inept PT Boat commander, was almost removed from command because of an inability to properly dock his boat!”

I saw History channel episode years ago that had an interview with the captain of the destroyer who ran over JFK. The Japanese captain was amazed that he managed to hit a PT boat. He opined that the US commander might not have been of the best quality because PT boats were so hard to ram.

29 posted on 01/22/2012 12:19:45 PM PST by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Reily
JFK was an best an inept PT Boat commander, was almost removed from command because of an inability to properly dock his boat!

I wonder if he taught his brother Ted how to drive?

30 posted on 01/22/2012 12:25:24 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: AFret.

Like many heroes of the left, JFK was a sleazy, wicked man behind the veil, he disgusted his Secret Service people and they were ashamed of the things they had to do and overlook for him, I saw one tear up as he described the degrading things they had to endure for the guy.


31 posted on 01/22/2012 12:40:35 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: BlueBerrier0341

Short, yes. Unpleasant, I question.


32 posted on 01/22/2012 12:53:01 PM PST by RichInOC (An erect John Kennedy has no conscience.)
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To: BlueBerrier0341
Well the title of this article is a bit overly dramatic. Yes, JFK had a short life but he had a million dollars (in 1938!) handed to him when he was 21, got to be a "war hero", had all the babes he wanted, and on top of that, got to be president of the United States. So okay, in between, he had some back pain, some stomachaches, and his mother was a frigid old hag who outsourced his upbringing to the hired help. Oh well, just goes to show you can't have it all.

Out of all the Kennedys, JFK is my favorite of the whole wretched bunch. No doubt he had his peccadilloes and he's a flawed man, not worthy of the idol worship bestowed upon him by the fawning mainstream media and little old ladies from East Boston (who still have portraits of him hanging in their parlors) but JFK certainly made the most of his brief time on earth and generally rose above the rest of the riff-raff that descended from the loins of Joe and Rose Kennedy.

33 posted on 01/22/2012 1:03:21 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 10 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: Polynikes
I would have to find Caro's book and look but he quotes the reports of the squadron commander & other boat captains on visibility. The visibility was quite good! Also the Kennedy boat seemed to be well out of the area of operation. (That's why they had problems finding him!)If you remember the movie, it makes it look like a foggy night. It wasn't according to Caro's research!

Japanese destroyers & US PT boats did not fight using classical age triremes & quadremes tactics! Something is very amiss with the story. PT boat tactics were wait in the shallows like shoals & inlets (too shallow for deep water ships like destroyers!) and dash out for a torpedo run. It seems that Kennedy's boat was out in deep water and again if I remember this right according to “the story” it wasn't on a torpedo run!. It was sitting there! Huh? That makes no sense!

34 posted on 01/22/2012 2:29:10 PM PST by Reily
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To: SamAdams76
The article says that Kennedy would suffer from the absence of a mother's love.

Never heard that one before...

35 posted on 01/22/2012 2:35:07 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Reily

Adjusted for inflation, JFK was a billionaire President, no other President comes anywhere near that.

Odd that America doesn’t think of JFK as being the richest president in our history, instead it is all athletics and war heroism ,the outdoors, and movie star glamour.


36 posted on 01/22/2012 3:16:54 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: Reily

Look up “Japanese Destroyer Captain” by Tameichi Hara. He was aboard one of the other destroyers in the squadron involved, and as I recall he witnessed the whole thing.


37 posted on 01/22/2012 3:35:11 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Mears

bfl


38 posted on 01/22/2012 3:41:31 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: A_perfect_lady

On the other hand, he DID get to sleep with Marilyn Monroe, among others.


39 posted on 01/22/2012 3:45:45 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: ansel12
“....instead it is all athletics and war heroism ,the outdoors, and movie star glamour. ....”

About 75% of this was fiction just Ole Joe buying the best PR men you can get!

40 posted on 01/22/2012 3:51:22 PM PST by Reily
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To: ansel12

Like many heroes of the left, JFK was a sleazy, wicked man behind the veil, he disgusted his Secret Service people and they were ashamed of the things they had to do and overlook for him, I saw one tear up as he described the degrading things they had to endure for the guy.


I initially thought you were describing some of the classier antics of willy clinton..Just out of curiosity, what are your sources of the above? I would like to read and learn..


41 posted on 01/22/2012 4:04:05 PM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: AFret.

The Secret Service guy was on TV years ago being interviewed, he was almost tearfully pointing out how difficult it was for the sober, respectable men of the Secret Service to having to be serving has butlers for whores and participating in JFKs behavior, and I think he mentioned even dealing with prostitutes.

You never looked into JFK, never knew about the affairs, White House sex romps, the quick banging in closets, the mafia, the drugs?


42 posted on 01/22/2012 4:40:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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