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Girl Scout Troops Banned from Va. (Catholic) Church
nbc washington ^ | January 21, 2012

Posted on 01/22/2012 12:44:36 PM PST by NYer

Girl Scout Troops Banned from Va. Church

Girl Scouts will no longer be able to meet at a local church because of a connection with Planned Parenthood.

Several Girl Scout troops in Chantilly, Virginia have been banned from meeting at a local Catholic church and a neighboring school.

St. Timothy Catholic Church says that scouts won’t be allowed to meet or wear their uniforms on church property. The edict also applies to the adjacent St. Timothy School, which enrolls students from preschool to eighth grade.

The decision stems from what the church calls an affiliation with Planned Parenthood by the Girl Scouts parent organization, The World Association of Girl Guides.

A spokesman for the diocese released a statement that says in part:

“Every pastor in the diocese has the responsibility to determine how best to use their parish facilities, consider the requests of outside groups, and reconcile such requests with the needs and mission of their parish community.”

The regional girl scouts council says it will make sure the troops affected can find a new home.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: fairfaxcounty; girlscouts; gsa; plannedparenthood; proaborts; radicalfeminists
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1 posted on 01/22/2012 12:44:47 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 01/22/2012 12:45:38 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

That is great-—the war is on.

They need to encourage these groups into the Heritage Girls-—ones where they believe in God-—Natural Rights come from God, etc.

We are in America, the land of the Free and as such HAVE to acknowledge God—because Atheist godless countries have NO ABSOLUTES-—it means they can make up any laws they want-—like the Nuremberg Laws-—Nothing is “wrong” but we have a Constitution which acknowledges God-give rights.


3 posted on 01/22/2012 12:49:56 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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To: NYer

That’s a little rough.

I don’t have any experience with the Girl Scouts, but I know the Boy Scouts teach Americanism and love of country.

It is bad when an edict comes down from adults in charge of these groups that most of the troop level parents and kids do not agree with, and it is bad that the troops get punished for the acts of their national leadership, but letting supposed transgendered boys in and supporting planned parenthood should not even be imposed on them.

Kids need to be able to grow without Homosexuals and pedophiles and sexually obsessive adults screwing up their recreation.


4 posted on 01/22/2012 12:53:23 PM PST by Venturer
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To: NYer
The regional girl scouts council says it will make sure the troops affected can find a new home.

Surely Planned Parenthood would have a lobby or abortion room they could let them use long enough to have a meeting.

sarc/

5 posted on 01/22/2012 12:54:44 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Climate Change" my a.... All weather is local.)
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To: NYer

One down, 20,000 to go.


6 posted on 01/22/2012 12:55:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: NYer

EXCELLENT pastoral decision!!!

Personally, I have made the decision not to purchase Girl Scout cookies anymore...for the same reason....which I intend to explain to anyone who solicits.

It’s PAST time that we all take such actions.


7 posted on 01/22/2012 12:55:33 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer

This is great news!! I hope they start a Little Flowers group instead.

No Girl Scouts in this household. We support Little Flowers instead. My daughter will learn Catholic values instead of where to procure free contraception. I wish more parents would make the same choice we have.


8 posted on 01/22/2012 12:59:15 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: NYer

Hate to punish the girls for what parents and or “the organization” is doing but hopefully it will open some eyes and ears to what’s going on behind the scenes. No cookies for us too.


9 posted on 01/22/2012 1:00:23 PM PST by FishinTX
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To: Venturer
I don’t have any experience with the Girl Scouts, but I know the Boy Scouts teach Americanism and love of country.

Like most orgs devoted to the development of young women, the Girl Scouts appears to have been taken over by feminists. You don't ever hear the media attacking the Girl Scouts for their beliefs the way you hear them villify the Boy Scouts do you? Are the Girl Scouts rooting out any lesbian scout leaders or pedophiles in their ranks? You never hear of that being an issue. You have to wonder why.

10 posted on 01/22/2012 1:01:35 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Venturer

How is this rough??

The Girl Scouts have a nationally-implemented program followed by all troops that encourages the radical feminist agenda. In addition, money is funneled into Planned Parenthood. I hope more parents & parishes take a stand against this garbage. There are other alternatives like Little Flowers or American Heritage Girls.


11 posted on 01/22/2012 1:02:40 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Venturer

No, it’s not a little rough.

You don’t know how PC leftist the GS have become. And the sexually related crap they are teaching the girls is, well, crap.

My wife was a troop leader for over 10 years, and I worked very closely with the kids. By the time our daughter grew up and our involvement with GS was winding down, we were getting fed up with the direction the organization was taking. And it’s a lot worse now.

I (and the other dads that helped) couldn’t be involved as we were 20 years ago with our troop because all men are looked upon as rapists and pedophiles. It’s gotten disgusting, IMO.

And don’t kid yourself that most of the parents are against what is being taught. Half of them don’t know and many of the rest don’t care.


12 posted on 01/22/2012 1:12:56 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Venturer
I don’t have any experience with the Girl Scouts ...

Unlike the Boy Scouts of the US, the Girl Scouts have been exploited by Planned Parenthood and other left-wing organizations.

Girl Scouts Ties with Planned Parenthood Extensive and Long-Standing

13 posted on 01/22/2012 1:14:20 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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14 posted on 01/22/2012 1:17:01 PM PST by narses
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Good for them!

No cookies in this household, either. Instead we buy the Keebler Grasshopper cookies that taste exactly the same as the Thin Mints.


15 posted on 01/22/2012 1:25:57 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: NYer

Hurray for my parish! Let’s hope it’s the beginning of a national trend.


16 posted on 01/22/2012 1:27:43 PM PST by Mach9
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To: NYer

Good for the church. I hate wars where only the bad guys show up.


17 posted on 01/22/2012 1:32:44 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: NYer

Why would any church advocate a private child organization that preaches the twisted anti-family, anti-female, anti-child agenda of liberalism?

Liberal feminists made a concerted effort to take over the girls scouts and acheived their goal in the 90s. Now the bloody chickens come home to roost.


18 posted on 01/22/2012 1:40:53 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: NYer

Good!!


19 posted on 01/22/2012 1:47:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: FishinTX

As a Catholic parent of two girl scouts, my wife is the troop leader, this relationship to planned parenthood is perplexing. I can say that our small community troop does not promote the PP ideas and values. To the contrary, they work on community and educational projects to make the girls better citizens. My oldest has earned her Silver Award and will begin working on her Gold Award soon.(Top award for GS like the Eagle Scout is top for the Boy Scouts) My youngest will begin work on her Silver Award.

What I’m getting at is that I don’t want to punish kids who are involved in good, wholesome activities because of who may be involved in support of the national organization.

In 1992, Levi Strauss Co. pulled support from the Boy Scouts because the BSA would not accept gay scout masters. I and many others did and have boycotted Levi’s since that day. (I haven’t bought or worn any Levi’s clothing since that time. Including Dockers) So if you are refusing to buy cookies or help support individual Girl Scouts, aren’t you being like Levi’s and punishing kids because of the actions of the adults?

Article on BSA and Levi’s http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/31/style/signals-why-levi-s-don-t-fit-scouts.html


20 posted on 01/22/2012 1:50:50 PM PST by Baumer (Most areas of Washington are Republican)
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To: NYer
Already told one of the guys in my pool league selling GS cookies for his daughter - no more cookies. And I told him why. That and this crap.
21 posted on 01/22/2012 1:56:02 PM PST by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: Venturer
The BSA and the Girl Scouts are two completely different things.

Aside from the fact that the Girl Scouts have been taken over by radical feminists and lesbians and are preaching a very extreme agenda, they're no fun either.

My daughter was briefly in the Girl Scout troop at her school. No camping, no hiking, not even nature walks. I tried leading a simple short day hike, and the little darlings complained all the way that their feet hurt or they had chipped a nail. I arranged for the girls to earn their Civics badge by visiting the courthouse and the General Assembly, got our state representative to agree to welcome them and squire them around (he's a really nice guy). But all the mothers kept coming up with excuses why they couldn't go . . . turned out they were afraid to go downtown. I explained that I had arranged parking in a secure deck, that the General Assembly was in session and the Capitol police were on every corner, it was still no go. What a bunch of wussies!

Of course, to be painfully honest, part of the reason was that the school is located in a very trendy suburb of Atlanta (Dunwoody - the place that everybody makes jokes about: "How can you tell when a Dunwoody housewife is in mourning? Black tennis dress." "How does a Dunwoody housewife call her kids in to supper? 'Get in the car!!'") You never saw such a bunch of helpless, do-nothing hothouse flowers in your life.

The day after my daughter turned 14, she had her paperwork turned in to join the local BSA Venture Crew. We never looked back -- Philmont, Northern Boundary canoe trail, skiing trips, ropes courses, hikes on the AT, whitewater kayaking, etc. She earned her Outdoor Bronze Award, got her BSA Lifesaving certificate, and had a blast. I became an Associate Advisor and I had a blast too.

22 posted on 01/22/2012 2:00:49 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

The Boy Scouts have been exploited like any group involving the upbringing of children has. The parents and adults in charge have been ready and willing to fight the good fight without involving the boys who would otherwise be used as pawns. In their case the weapon of choice for the enemy was pedophelia.[ and similar cultural ideas.

Those in charge of the Girl Scouts, the parents and adults in charge are willing to use the girls as pawns. Mothers who claim ignorance or are otherwise unwilling to face the fact that their daughters are working for the cause of killing thw unborn are enablers.

Planned Parenthoood would provide them a room, as they should, but the smell of death might get to too many poeple and force the silly moms to face the truth and act like those in charge of the Boy Scouts.


23 posted on 01/22/2012 2:00:49 PM PST by stanne
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To: Baumer
Problem is, there comes a point where you can't keep on ignoring the national leadership. They have control of the levers of power, so to speak, and they set the agenda.

We reached that point with the Episcopal Church. For a long time, we thought we could just keep our heads down in our little local parish and ignore what the national leadership was doing.

Doesn't work. The fish rots from the head down, and by the time the nastiness got to us it was far too late to stop it.

You take a good look at the printed material that the Girl Scouts produce for the girls. My daughter is now 23, but when she was in there was a lot of pretty radical stuff in there, especially about sexuality and 'choices'. Ugh. And you might want to think twice about sending your girls away to Girl Scout camp unsupervised.

The BSA will welcome your girls age 14 and up in Venturing or Explorers. And there is no nonsense in BSA. Two deep leadership rule is strictly enforced, and no far left radical politics taught under the guise of "citizenship", either.

24 posted on 01/22/2012 2:12:03 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Most of the kids around here join the Sea Scouts.

Both male and female and it seems like a good bunch of people.


25 posted on 01/22/2012 2:16:19 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Baumer

Investigate. Your argument is the same as many. Good sources state that all troops donate to the central GSA. If you are not sure then you best be. Your girls are working for and sending money to somewhere you don’t know. Email Johnette Bencovic.

Protecting kids from contributing to PP is not the same as punishing them. Duh!

If the girls knew where their money was going instead of pretending like all the ignorant or passive aggressive feminist mothers that the money is going to some good organization that exsited in the past but has been overrun insidiously by knowledgeable, active feminists with a cause, perhaps they would drop out themselves, that is, if they have not yet been socialized to the feminist cause,and don’t you want to know this?; and they would not call it punishment.

You could find out whether their money or any portion of it goes to PP, laundered or not, and you ought to know this. Then bring them on a tour of a PP facility and ask them to decide if they’d like to continue working for this cause. You know, obsrve an abortion, if they are assisting in its funding.

Ask PP to provide a meeting room for the girls, they are paying for it, instead of pressuring the Catholic Church, who is never ever going to knowingly contribute to abortion in any way.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

And get to a Little Flowers group.

Levi-Strauss. Bah!


26 posted on 01/22/2012 2:20:48 PM PST by stanne
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To: Venturer
We're so far from the ocean, the Sea Scouts would have to meet in a bathtub.

Actually, we have a couple of ships here on the two big lakes, Lanier and Allatoona. But it's just not the same . . . .

27 posted on 01/22/2012 2:22:26 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
Excellent decision!

For this church to allow the meetings on their property would send a message of acceptance of Planned Parenthood and their trafficking in homicide.

Very good news.

28 posted on 01/22/2012 2:24:25 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: NYer

Throwing girls out to make room for little boys?


29 posted on 01/22/2012 2:24:54 PM PST by elvis-lives
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To: surroundedbyblue

Little Flowers is, indeed, an excellent organization.


30 posted on 01/22/2012 2:28:32 PM PST by stanne
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To: Venturer

Girl Scouts are different. There are a lot of open lesbians in their management and I’m not sure they really care about the local leadership...that said, lesbians generally don’t go after young girls, so I don’t think this is dangerous, but it might not be the role model you want. And Americanism never seemed to be a part of it.

The GS also got into “urban scouting” years ago, which meant aiming their programs at “urban youth” (black girls) whose major “need” appeared to be contraception. To my knowledge, the Boy Scouts don’t have all of these sex-ed programs and furthermore, when one of my daughters had a brief experience with GS, she said she didn’t want to go ahead because it wasn’t what she had thought it would be (adventure, challenges, etc.). Later she said they spent all their time talking about what we would call “social issues.” So it’s not the same as the Boy Scouts.


31 posted on 01/22/2012 2:30:14 PM PST by livius
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To: AnAmericanMother

I love it! Your experience (and your daughter’s) was exactly the same as mine!


32 posted on 01/22/2012 2:31:56 PM PST by livius
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To: Baumer

Punish might be the wrong word. This church or pastor is not letting the GS assemble at their location. All I’m doing is not buying some cookies. Maybe management will change when enough social and financial pressure is put on them. You and your kids sound wonderful. God Bless.


33 posted on 01/22/2012 2:37:20 PM PST by FishinTX
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To: NYer

May God bless and keep the pastor of St. Timothy’s.


34 posted on 01/22/2012 2:37:52 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: FishinTX

Punish is quite the wrong word.

the girls are being used and abused by their parents and the GSA whom I do not allow to punish me with guilt for not buying cookies from their girls who, by and large, do not care about selling cookies. I would have to be convincede otherwise.


35 posted on 01/22/2012 2:43:46 PM PST by stanne
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To: Baumer

Perhaps you should start,instead, a Heritage Girl or Little Flowers group for your daughters.


36 posted on 01/22/2012 2:45:25 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: livius
lesbians generally don’t go after young girls

The seduction-of-young-teens meme that is one of the themes in "The V----a Monologues" is perhaps not as common among female homosexuals as among males, but it's there.

37 posted on 01/22/2012 2:52:59 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Baumer

Just in case there’s any denial on this thread:

There’s this, posted today:

Obama Celebrates Roe vs. Wade Decision, 54 Million Abortions
Life News ^ | 1/22/12 | Steven Ertelt


38 posted on 01/22/2012 2:54:06 PM PST by stanne
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To: livius

If we find one more person with our experience, in the words of Arlo Guthrie, “it’ll be a Movement! The Alice’s Restaurant anti-GSA movement!”


39 posted on 01/22/2012 2:54:15 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Baumer
I don’t want to punish kids who are involved in good, wholesome activities because of who may be involved in support of the national organization.

You wouldn't be punishing the kids if you joined the boycott. The adults who are needlessly shoving the issues of sexual perversion and abortion into children's organizations for their own selfish purposes are to blame.

I'd be curious what your attitude would be if the Girl Scouts' parent organization embraced Satan Worship, Slavery, Communism, Bestiality or other such controversial subjects -- even though your own local troop did not. Would you still stay involved?

40 posted on 01/22/2012 3:04:33 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: stanne

You watch Johnette, too???

Woo hoo! Love her! I download her radio show at night after work. Her & Fr Ed have gotten me through some long runs on my treadmill! I sent her some $$ recently because I believe strongly in the work she does.


41 posted on 01/22/2012 3:10:49 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: AnAmericanMother; kalee

Ping to my mama... A former troop Beverly hills... I mean Dunwoody, GA GS troop leader.

When are we going to the gift shop?! What do you mean we have to walk?!


42 posted on 01/22/2012 3:20:16 PM PST by Cailleach
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To: AnAmericanMother; kalee

Ping to my mama... A former troop Beverly hills... I mean Dunwoody, GA GS troop leader.

When are we going to the gift shop?! What do you mean we have to walk?!


43 posted on 01/22/2012 3:21:11 PM PST by Cailleach
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To: Venturer

I was a Girl Scout (Brownies) leader @ 20 years ago. It was then becoming more and more left leaning at the regional council leadership level, and seems to have gotten worse. Really a shame. Lots of innocent victims of their PC attitudes that stray from what GSA was founded to be and to do.


44 posted on 01/22/2012 3:27:08 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: SumProVita

I do not purchase GSCs anymore myself. Time for a new GS slogan:

“Buy a cookie, kill a baby!”


45 posted on 01/22/2012 3:30:05 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Baumer

Get out of the Girl Scouts and join the American Heritage Girls.


46 posted on 01/22/2012 3:33:04 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Cailleach

I knew that was you before I saw who pinged me. lol Yes, those were my girls.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 3:33:43 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Cailleach
LOL!

It's an understatement to say I don't fit in here -- the police came to answer a prowler call and took one look at my big-tired dog truck, my camo hat, my bird gun (broken open over my elbow) and my at-heel Lab (who always smiles at police officers) and said, "You're not a typical housewife, are you?"

Said, "Nope!" Big smile.

48 posted on 01/22/2012 3:34:01 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

I am sure the Wiccan churches will lwt the LGBT Scouts in!


49 posted on 01/22/2012 3:35:25 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rabidralph

sending them to the Girl Scouts is punishing them


50 posted on 01/22/2012 3:37:28 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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