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Girl Scout Troops Banned from Va. (Catholic) Church
nbc washington ^ | January 21, 2012

Posted on 01/22/2012 12:44:36 PM PST by NYer

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To: Baumer; NYer; All

What many people do not realize is the GS has a “curriculum” that is followed. So, the reading material & program that the troops follow is set by national leadership. Recently, it was reported that a GS publication “Girltopia” featured this little diddy as a recommended book for pre-teen girls: The Gate to Women’s Country, authored by former Rocky Mountain Planned Parenthood Director Sheri S. Tepper, a well-known eco-feminist and feminist science fiction writer.

Read the following overview written by Sue Brinkman & tell me if this is what you want your daughter reading:

“Tepper’s tale takes place 300 years into the future after a catastrophic war splits the U.S. into several nations with ‘Women’s Country’ being established in the Pacific northwest. The society within this country is matriarchal with all women, girl children and boys under the age of five living inside the town walls. All of the men live outside the town in ‘warrior camps.’ When the boys are five years old, they must leave Women’s Country and can only return at the age of 15 and only if they agree to be servants and castrated.

The book also incorporates Tepper’s eco-feminist ideology. Women’s Country exists within the framework of a sustainable economy with the people living off foods grown by low-tech local agriculture.

The citizens of Women’s Country are also very concerned with breeding violence out of society which they believe is biologically determined. ‘Medical Officers’ weed out undesirable men but women are also given hysterectomies and tubal ligations if they are deemed unfit to breed. The men from the warrior camps are only seen twice a year for a “Carnival” where women are encouraged to have sex with them either to satiate themselves and/or pro-create.”

Sir, you are Catholic. This pagan garbage does not follow suit with Catholic values & teachings. This parish was right to pull the plug on this GS troop. I pray for you that you & your wife will do the same. There are many more suitable options available including the American Heritage Girls (Christian) and my favorite, the Little Flowers.


51 posted on 01/22/2012 3:47:07 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: NYer
Dear St Timothy's,

Now you need to ban parishioners employees and others who attend Catholic colleges and Universities like Georgetown and Notre Dame that have direct ties to PP. No more Georgetown sweatshirts in the parish, please.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/13/150-catholic-colleges-have-ties-to-planned-parenth/

And get to work on identifying and banning those parishioners who work for corporations and nonprofits that have any ties or association with PP.

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/09/12/pro-life-group-lists-companies-backing-planned-parenthood/

Get rid of any teacher who belongs to the NEA and check every other parishioner who belongs to a union, too- all have ties to PP

And while you're at it- how about a parish purge of all registered democrats and anyone who donates to the DNC or any democrat organization. The party of abortion.

My point being, Girl Scouts has no more “ties” to planned parenthood nor deserves the outrage against us than tens of thousands of organizations and corporations and nonprofit institutions that many posters here do support.

Ever give money to the Red Cross? Drop money on the Salvation Army kettle? You support Planned Parenthood.
Pay federal taxes? You support PP.

Would these self-righeous priests give communion to a democrat politician?? Allow Mr post-birth abortion defender OBAMA bumper stickers on parishioner cars?

Where does it end?

52 posted on 01/22/2012 4:18:47 PM PST by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common- Voltaire)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I grew up in Dunwoody and I now live in a very similar suburb of DC... I feel like I’ve spent my life trying to escape the manicure and tennis lifestyle. I want to live in the country with a huge veggie garden and horses, chickens, and perhaps a pair of sheep. Oh you should have seen my neighbors when I put in a veggie garden here... “you are going to grow food?! And actually eat it?!” LOL

I feel blessed to have gotten to live in the sticks in between these two homes...I know that the real world is out there. I just have to find my way back to it.


53 posted on 01/22/2012 5:13:47 PM PST by Cailleach
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To: NYer; Chode
Photobucket Rev. Mother Superior has put her foot down!
54 posted on 01/22/2012 6:01:07 PM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: silverleaf

I have not given to the Red Double Cross since the scandal broke after 9ll. Now I don’t give to the Salvation Army.

What is one more organization?

They either straiten up and fly right or else no money from me. I have no bad feelings about telling them so either.


55 posted on 01/22/2012 6:06:39 PM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

A very worthy cause, if you ask me.

She’s just great and, though she may not be the best interviewer, and certainly not bad, she has the best guests. It has been the most important show on TV because she seeks the truth, and not just her version of it. She’s like a very good friend.

Th Abundant Life
Women of Grace
Her radio show, daily, I don’t know the name of it.

I always refer people to her, as she can give contact info for problematic issues such as the one now in question.

she has had shows on all of the pertinent issues of the day.


56 posted on 01/22/2012 6:28:29 PM PST by stanne
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To: surroundedbyblue

A very worthy cause, if you ask me.

She’s just great and, though she may not be the best interviewer, and certainly not bad, she has the best guests. It has been the most important show on TV because she seeks the truth, and not just her version of it. She’s like a very good friend.

Th Abundant Life
Women of Grace
Her radio show, daily, I don’t know the name of it.

I always refer people to her, as she can give contact info for problematic issues such as the one now in question.

she has had shows on all of the pertinent issues of the day.


57 posted on 01/22/2012 6:28:29 PM PST by stanne
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To: silverleaf

That’s called rationalizing bad behavior.


58 posted on 01/22/2012 6:38:30 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: FishinTX

Thanks FishinTX. I have no problem what so ever with the church that didn’t want to allow GS meetings in their buildings anymore. I just know, at least in our community and area, the cookie sales directly help our girls with summer camp and other activities they do. Also, our troop does go camping and conducts day camps for smaller kids in the summer.

I mentioned the Boy Scouts and Levi’s just wondering how many others boycotted or are still boycotting that company for pulling funding from the BSA?


59 posted on 01/22/2012 7:02:07 PM PST by Baumer (Most areas of Washington are Republican)
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To: Baumer
by paying dues, promoting the organization by volunteering and giving in their annual campaign and by wearing the uniform you promote the council and national organization...Presently there are about 17 councils with a direct affiliation with planned parenthood and many other councils work with them.. Roughly 30% of the paid employees are lesbians....I think the church is right about not having a girl scout troop...So what do you think about the Susan g. komen foundation?
60 posted on 01/22/2012 7:03:31 PM PST by Coleus (John 3:16, John 6:53-58)
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To: silverleaf

It ends when catholic colleges (so-called ones) seek to use a room in the church itself. Read the article. The Church does not EVER infringe. Get it.


61 posted on 01/22/2012 7:03:42 PM PST by stanne
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To: surroundedbyblue

how do you download her shows?


62 posted on 01/22/2012 7:05:53 PM PST by Coleus (John 3:16, John 6:53-58)
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To: Morgana; silverleaf; NYer
I agree, Morgana. Rather than take a view that "since I can't do everything, I will do nothing", I'd rather have a philosophy of doing whatever small things I actually can do to work toward ending Planned Parenthood's murderous baby-killing rampage.

I also no longer donate to the Salvation Army, or the Red Cross. (There are many other organizations which do the same kinds of work that those organizations do, but which do not provide support for baby killers.) And I definitely will NOT buy any more Girl Scout cookies now either.

And while I can't directly dictate where my taxes go, and I can't vote for all 100 U.S. Senators (or 114 if there are 57 states), or for all the U.S. representatives, I CAN vote to get rid of B.O., and I CAN vote for Pro-Life senators and a representative in my own state and district (who will then vote to governmentally de-fund Planned Parenthood, and eventually through some legal or constitutional mechanism, effectively overturn Roe v. Wade).
63 posted on 01/22/2012 7:24:47 PM PST by Heart-Rest ( "Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh; is anything too hard for me?" Jeremiah 32:27)
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To: Baumer

Honestly, I forgot about the Levi boycott although I might have only bought one or two pairs of Dockers in the past ten years or so.


64 posted on 01/22/2012 7:26:01 PM PST by FishinTX
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To: NYer

Unfortunately, the Girl Scouts are very, very different from the Boy Scouts.


65 posted on 01/22/2012 7:26:54 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: savagesusie
That is great-—the war is on.

This may me the most important lesson the scouts will learn.

66 posted on 01/22/2012 7:29:05 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: elvis-lives; Admin Moderator

Get lost, troll.


67 posted on 01/22/2012 7:33:01 PM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: elvis-lives; Admin Moderator

Get lost, troll.


68 posted on 01/22/2012 7:33:21 PM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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To: BufordP

You could make a donation directly to the co-worker’s daughter’s troop so they don’t have to share the funds with the regional council or national hq. A lil intra-office good will.


69 posted on 01/22/2012 7:55:28 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: elvis-lives

putz


70 posted on 01/22/2012 8:34:13 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Coleus

I’ll take that ? as surrounded could be out for the night.

Not sure re the podcasts as I don’t use them and that’s where Surrounded might help you. I get Johnette’s show on radio live.

For TV fo to EWTN website an look for “The Abundant Life” and/or “Women of Grace”.


71 posted on 01/22/2012 8:55:57 PM PST by stanne
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To: Morgana
two women at work are not happy with me right now because i told them both i would no longer buy girl scout cookies from their daughters and told them why
72 posted on 01/22/2012 9:03:13 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

oooh

They get pissed, those lovely mothers.


73 posted on 01/22/2012 9:09:57 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
yup... they said why take it out on THEIR daughter because i have an issue with the GS, told them there was no other way

oh well... i never was the most popular one in the place

74 posted on 01/22/2012 9:20:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: savagesusie

The girl scouts have been taken over by radical feminists and lesbians for years. Not at the troop level but the national hq. It’s an open secret.


75 posted on 01/22/2012 9:22:07 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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They’re tough. Passive aggressive feminists using their daughters to contribute. Trying to use you manipulatively. That’s how it works.

BSA parents would not put up with it.

Any cgood children’s group now is going to be infiltrated and tempted. the truth will prevail ultimately, perhaps not soon.

What are parents doing sellling this in the workplace to begin with?


76 posted on 01/22/2012 9:40:38 PM PST by stanne
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To: NYer

placemark


77 posted on 01/22/2012 10:01:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Mach9

Who is the bishop and which is the diocese? They deserve credit too.


78 posted on 01/23/2012 2:33:02 AM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

How I wish you were a member of my parish!


79 posted on 01/23/2012 2:36:24 AM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: Coleus; stanne

Yes I was out early last night....sorry. I can be such a loser at times.

If you sign up for a free membership at www.womenofgrace.com, you have access to the radio podcasts from each day. So, since I work & can’t listen live at 11 a.m., I download them at night and then listen from my laptop or iPhone. I also DVR her TV show but usually save that for the weekends.

Hope this helps!


80 posted on 01/23/2012 2:52:46 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Chode

Stick to your guns with these wacky women! Be strong!

You’re popular around here.....that’s all that matters ;-)


81 posted on 01/23/2012 2:55:14 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: BlackElk

Bishop Paul Loverde, Diocese of Arlington, VA


82 posted on 01/23/2012 3:20:39 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
Bummer.

I like Tepper's books but they are most definitely not for kids.

In writing that particular book she departed from her usual style and got really, really preachy. More along the lines of Marion Zimmer Bradley (who is a truly awful and predictably feminist/lesbian writer who is unreadable because she spends so little time on dialogue and character development and at least 10 pages every chapter on stating in exhaustive detail her crazy theories.) Probably some buddy on the PP board persuaded Tepper to write it.

The take-away from "Gate to Women's Country", however, is that it doesn't work. Everyone involved is miserable. The straw man of the evil neighboring "Christian" polygamists is completely transparent, so it doesn't really function as a contrast. The bio-engineering is a dismal failure, and the idea that violence can somehow be broken down genetically into "violence we like" and "violence we don't like" is absurd. And of course it's all based on a lie. All children are artificially conceived in a lab - sex is fruitless.

All in all not one of Tepper's typical books (I think she was trying to take the selective breeding idea to a logical extreme) and not particularly successful. Prefer her True Game series, which is not so heavy-handed.

It figures that the loons at the Girl Scouts would take the least successful, most atypical book from a pretty good SF writer and run with it. I bet their reading list also includes Marion ZB and Mercedes Lackey - another feminist/lesbian idiot.

83 posted on 01/23/2012 6:32:30 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: surroundedbyblue
i will. and thank you for your kind words
84 posted on 01/23/2012 7:55:50 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: HamiltonJay

True. But the mothers of girls don’t understand the evil of Marxism which is at the heart of this feminism and lesbian movement-—both a product of Communists.

This egalitarianism wants to destroy the differences between male and female-—to destroy the nuclear family—and all biological relationships. It teaches hatred of not only men and boys-—but hatred of self==the design of a woman’s body—the fact that they give birth and not men, is at the root of their extreme anger at God.

It is a rejection of God and a rejection of their feminine traits-—they want women to think like godless Marxists and destroy the natural family—that necessary unit for emotionally sound and independent children who have positive role models and love both men and women-—because they learn to love both their mothers and fathers in healthy family relationships.

No healthy family unit and they will not learn to love both men and women.


85 posted on 01/23/2012 12:00:30 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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To: Chode

Don’t worry, they’ll get over it.


86 posted on 01/23/2012 12:24:08 PM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: BlackElk

Diocese of Arlington (VA), Loverde. Knowing St. Tim’s, I’d be willing to bet IT deserves all the credit. It’s had a succession of very conservative pastors, all of whom support a conservative, successful elementary school.


87 posted on 01/23/2012 12:51:13 PM PST by Mach9
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To: ArrogantBustard

Perhaps Bishop Loverde is moving rightward as he ages. I am shocked that he did something this right. Good for him.


88 posted on 01/23/2012 1:17:37 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: NYer

Yahoo, don’t allow these innocent girls to be indoctrinated by PP on Church property!


89 posted on 01/24/2012 9:55:24 AM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: NYer

Good call - thumbs up.

From what I hear (may be unfounded) the Girl Scouts have become radicalized anyway.


90 posted on 01/25/2012 1:17:25 PM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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