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Why Gingrich won -- Why Romney lost
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 1/22/2012 | Byron York

Posted on 01/22/2012 7:53:20 PM PST by TBBT

COLUMBIA, SC -- They won't say it publicly -- they don't want to appear churlish or disrespectful on a night they took a serious beating -- but it's no exaggeration to say that even after losing the South Carolina primary to Newt Gingrich, members of Mitt Romney's circle find it absurd -- almost crazy -- that the former House speaker has even a ghost of a chance of becoming the Republican Party's presidential nominee.

In their view, Gingrich has barely run a campaign. As they see it, Team Gingrich doesn't have the money, professionalism, brains, or organization of the Romney campaign. They see the former Speaker as somewhat unstable and vulnerable to continued attack on issues of ethics and morals. And most of all, they see Gingrich as a candidate who owes his very existence to the never-ending series of Republican debates -- and not much more.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: newt; romney
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Alternate headline from HotAir: The sense from Team Romney: We can’t believe we’re losing to this guy
1 posted on 01/22/2012 7:53:27 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

LOL!

Newt Gingrich 29%
Mitt Romney 25%
Undecided 23%
Rick Santorum 16%
Ron Paul 7%

Mitt is dropping like a rock”

http://thefloridaprimary.com/ginrich-big-bump-florida-primary-poll/


2 posted on 01/22/2012 7:58:14 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: TBBT
Wasn't it Jean Francoise Kerrie' who said "I can't believe I'm losing to this moron" in 2004?

Liberals-- gotta love 'em.

3 posted on 01/22/2012 7:58:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: TBBT

Maybe they will take their ‘cash for clunkers’ campaign and go home.


4 posted on 01/22/2012 7:59:33 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: TBBT
I don't think anybody has yet properly assessed Gingrich's spanking of CNN and John King.

For me t was a stand up and cheer moment when Gingrich simply said "No" when the media elites tried to open the DC debates with his personal life.

5 posted on 01/22/2012 8:01:23 PM PST by pfflier
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To: TBBT

Why Gingrich won — Why Romney lost

Cause Gingrich is brilliant and Mitt is a stiff.


6 posted on 01/22/2012 8:01:28 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Nope, It was on a spoof on saturday night live where the actor playing Dukakis said that after the guy playing Bush made an incomprehesible statement.


7 posted on 01/22/2012 8:01:40 PM PST by staytrue
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To: CainConservative

8 posted on 01/22/2012 8:02:02 PM PST by garjog (If Not Newt, Who?)
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To: Just mythoughts

Romney got a “bounce” just before New Hampshire ~it’s called Christmas I think. Then, he started the long slide to the bottom ~ of course his bottom is still near 20% so he’ll continue to hang in there trying to use credentials checks, peculiar notions of who got on the ballot, and other tricks to amplify that 20% into something meaningful in terms of delegates.


9 posted on 01/22/2012 8:02:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TBBT

Will Romney and his band of elites ever realize that people just don’t like him?


10 posted on 01/22/2012 8:05:14 PM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: TBBT
Mitt is just too Romneyesque..... Know what I mean?
11 posted on 01/22/2012 8:07:33 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: TBBT

Newt has advisors. He loses them to Perry.
Perry is at 35%. These new advisors he hires help him to 6% immediately.
Bachmann, with highly paid Rollins, crashes and burns.
Cain, with no advisors, surges.
Then Newt, without his advisors, surges.

Hmm.

Maybe it’s a good thing not to have these advisors.


12 posted on 01/22/2012 8:08:37 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Bobalu
Cause Gingrich is brilliant and Mitt is a stiff.

Note this and mark your calendar. Romney will be the nominee.

13 posted on 01/22/2012 8:08:58 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: CainConservative

http://thefloridaprimary.com/ginrich-big-bump-florida-primary-poll/

right hand side half way down
Straw Poll: Who will win the Republican Florida Primary?

Newt Gingrich (42%, 572 Votes)
Mitt Romney (25%, 334 Votes)
Rick Santourm (17%, 234 Votes)
Ron Paul (16%, 208 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,348


14 posted on 01/22/2012 8:09:14 PM PST by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: TBBT; All

Check out what Florida Newspapers looked like today:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/newt-gingrich-is-on-a-roll-as-told-through-21-flo

(pictures of all major newspapers front page)


15 posted on 01/22/2012 8:09:44 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: TBBT

Their egos are so big they can’t see past them, hope they continue in that frame of mind.


16 posted on 01/22/2012 8:11:02 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: ExtremeUnction

If the MSM and the GOP RINOs get Mitt to the finish line he will be destroyed in the general.... I guarantee it.


17 posted on 01/22/2012 8:12:50 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: TBBT

They just can’t see why no one can stand Mitt.


18 posted on 01/22/2012 8:12:55 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: CainConservative

I guess all those BYU students who went to South Carolina to help Mitt were about as successful in getting converts to Romney as they are to Mormonism. Hardly any Mormon missionaries ever successfully convert their prospects and many go home with serious doubts about Mormonisms after being confronted by knowledgable Christians.


19 posted on 01/22/2012 8:14:06 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: TBBT

Newt won because he’s an intelligent man with a spine of steel. He doesn’t put his finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing and he tells liberals exactly what they are....liars.

R-Money is a snakeoil salesman who loves himself more than he loves this country. Whether than telling us what he will do, he repeatedly tries to sell us the fact that he was a businessman with years of experience. Okay, but I believe corporate raider would be more accurate. He would work with liberals every chance he gets. RINO!

Santorum, the only use he will be is to endorse R-Money like he did in 2008.

Paul, Fruitloop, antisemite, and a joke beyond comprehension. He needs to fold-up the quackerfactory and move on.


20 posted on 01/22/2012 8:14:13 PM PST by mardi59 (Newt brings hope, and change is coming. 2012!!)
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To: TBBT

It seems that the more America is lead by experts the worse the results become. Most Americans get that.


21 posted on 01/22/2012 8:17:02 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Bobalu

Right on.

THANK YOU SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THIS VICTORY!!

I just could not stomach Romney and felt like I was back to former years suffering with McCain pain! I have not had such joy since McCain chose Sarah to run with him and heard her acceptance speech!!

Let’s ROLL !!!


22 posted on 01/22/2012 8:18:31 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: ExtremeUnction
Note this and mark your calendar. Romney will be the nominee.

Why do you say that?

You're on a conservative forum that supports Newt Gingrich, do you support mittens?

23 posted on 01/22/2012 8:19:45 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: TBBT

“In their view, Gingrich has barely run a campaign. As they see it, Team Gingrich doesn’t have the money, professionalism, brains, or organization of the Romney campaign........”

and Romney campaign accuses Newt of being “Grandiose”, and “egotistical”. That statement shows how “Grandiose”, and “egotistical” they, the Romney team as a lot think of themselves.

“.....And most of all, they see Gingrich as a candidate who owes his very existence to the never-ending series of Republican debates — and not much more.”

Those debates that show Romney as doofus as Obama.


24 posted on 01/22/2012 8:19:46 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
Note this and mark your calendar. Romney will be the nominee.

You wishing it doesn't make it so.

25 posted on 01/22/2012 8:19:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: seton89

“Straw Poll: Who will win the Republican Florida Primary?”

I wonder if an old, white haired fat guy will pull the retired vote in Florida?


26 posted on 01/22/2012 8:21:41 PM PST by garjog (If Not Newt, Who?)
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To: muawiyah
Romney got a “bounce” just before New Hampshire ~it’s called Christmas I think. Then, he started the long slide to the bottom ~ of course his bottom is still near 20% so he’ll continue to hang in there trying to use credentials checks, peculiar notions of who got on the ballot, and other tricks to amplify that 20% into something meaningful in terms of delegates.

So was this 'bounce' orchestrated by the unexplained inability to calculate the Iowa caucus votes? Something still does not smell right about how long it took to count. From all appearances to me thus far Romney and his 'establishment' campaign are emulating the strategy used by the Obama campaign.

I think the Romney campaign believed after Iowa they had put Newt away. But when Newt fought back using Romney's own claims (Bain capitalism was just like Obama's auto industry bailout.) they then went real dirty and brought out x-wife, who stated her sole purpose was to end Newt's political career. Course don't forget before ABC put the x-wife under the bright lights, Miss Meggy McCain wrote her tutorial to the 'values' voters regarding the present Mrs. Gingrich adulterous ways.

27 posted on 01/22/2012 8:29:01 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: CainConservative

Thanks for the link really enjoyed them.

And FREE Front Page Bump for Newt!


28 posted on 01/22/2012 8:30:43 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: TBBT
I KNOW EXACTLY WHY ROMNEY LOST:
Romney was SUPPOSED TO LOSE: to OBAMA.

The fix was in. The ESTABLISHMENT of both parties had it worked out. Romney was supposed to waltz to the Republican nomination. Then OBAMA was going to drop the BAIN BOMB on Romney and Romney's inability to explain venture capital to the average voter was supposed to take Obama to victory.

INSTEAD, it was BOMB-THROWER NEWT who out of right field threw the left hook that Obama was primed to deliver. The ESTABLISHMENT of both parties was blindsided. This wasn't supposed to happen.

Romney's fall began with Newt on Bain. All the pundits were as shocked as the rest of the Establishment that Newt would

come at Romney from the left and

deliberately upset the fix that the Establishment had set up.

God Speed Newt and watch your back!

29 posted on 01/22/2012 8:32:35 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: TBBT

Romney lost because he is a stink’n liberal and SC didn’t want him for that reason.


30 posted on 01/22/2012 8:32:35 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: TBBT
Might we inform the members of "Romney's inner circle" cited in this article that the brave individuals who gave us our Constitution in 1787 might not have fitted their definitions either, but the clear explanations of the ideas of liberty flowed easily from their lips, and "the People" of their day responded and ratified that Constitution.

Their candidate (Romney) may have the money, the major press of both the Left and the Right, the "Establishment politicians" who don't want their boats rocked, and organizations in each state; however, if "the People," as in all but a handful of counties in South Carolina and other states, don't believe he has the intellectual capability to persuade a majority of citizens to embrace the ideas of liberty and to vote to reject the tyranny that Obama advocates, then he cannot be a winner in 2012.

The people of SC were perceptive, and they are representative of all of us who do not intend to let money, media, Party bigwigs, or anyone else choose the candidate we will select to represent us. The battle for our posterity's liberty is too important for that.

31 posted on 01/22/2012 8:34:02 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: TBBT

Romney will lose because he looks like a deer in headlights. Will someone please tell him a white business shirt DOES NOT go with the blue jeans. All his money and advisors can’t figure that out? It reminds me of McCain saying “My friends” ad nauseam and no one telling him to stop it.


32 posted on 01/22/2012 8:34:46 PM PST by vortigern
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To: Just mythoughts

I think Mitt is losing because he’s not engaging anyone. His support is a mile wide and an inch deep. He had a number of opportunities to really grab this thing the past ten days and almost seemed self sabotage himself.

Unlike most though, I’m ok with this knock down, drag out fight. In 1992, they beat the crap out of Clinton in those primaries with tales of his affairs and dodging the draft.

Then when the general election came and Bush surrogates tried to make an issue of it, most in the middle didn’t care. It seemed like old news.

So hopefully all the mud these guys are throwing at each other now will get out in the public domain and seem like old news come September.


33 posted on 01/22/2012 8:35:10 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: Matt Hatter

RE: Romney
As someone once said about someone else altogether
.....”I couldn’t warm up to this guy
if we were cremated together”.
Romney offers no one anything real to connect with.

Gingrich,for all his downsides, is at least understandable
as a real human being, who’s been through the mill, and come out the other side intact. He remains the ONLY one who will truly bring the fight to Obama, and destroy his skinny, pampered ass in debates that Obama will probably try to avoid due to some pressing “national crisis”.


34 posted on 01/22/2012 8:40:02 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: garjog
These glittering generalities reminded me of something. Ten minutes of nothingness. Hell, thirty minutes. I just knew I had heard it before. I heard it in the glib delivery of Barack Hussein Obama in 2008. So much so that we knew he was tilted far left. But he kept actually saying that to moments he could hide his true colors.

Romney has done the platitudes just like Obama. A 59 point 'jobs' plan that sounds like it came from out of left field for it's painful mechanics.

But the point is Romney and Obama have many similarities. Romney spends huge amounts attacking republicans and conservatives. Obama uses everything and anything to find an excuse for taking blame. Just watch Tuesday night as Obama uses the SOTU to make a campaign speech.

35 posted on 01/22/2012 8:42:18 PM PST by CT
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To: TBBT

That is because Mitt thinks he is in a beauty pageant and he has already paid off the judges.


36 posted on 01/22/2012 8:43:25 PM PST by tiki
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To: TBBT

Here is the money quote of the article:

“But Gingrich kept the crowd with him the whole way, and in the end had engaged his audience more than Romney could have hoped for. Gingrich RESPECTED them enough to discuss issues WITH THEM seriously.” (emphasis added)

Big media and GOP elite take note!


37 posted on 01/22/2012 8:43:58 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: SteveAustin
I think Mitt is losing because he’s not engaging anyone. His support is a mile wide and an inch deep. He had a number of opportunities to really grab this thing the past ten days and almost seemed self sabotage himself. Unlike most though, I’m ok with this knock down, drag out fight. In 1992, they beat the crap out of Clinton in those primaries with tales of his affairs and dodging the draft. Then when the general election came and Bush surrogates tried to make an issue of it, most in the middle didn’t care. It seemed like old news. So hopefully all the mud these guys are throwing at each other now will get out in the public domain and seem like old news come September.

The reaction to his defeat in South Carolina last night demonstrates to me he and his campaign thought they had this election bought and paid for... 'you know' extension of Bama's auto bailout, 'cash for clunkers'. I think Mitt's whole campaign strategy is to 'engage' those supposed 'independents'.

38 posted on 01/22/2012 8:51:24 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: garjog; All

Latest Polls: Monday, January 23

Oh it’s getting better.... Moments ago:

Florida Republican Presidential Primary

Insider Advantage

Romney 26, Gingrich 34, Santorum 11, Paul 13, Perry

Gingrich +8

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


39 posted on 01/22/2012 8:52:24 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: CainConservative
unfortunately; that 23% undecided is (somewhat) unsettling.. :-P
GO! NEWTON! GOaqq!

40 posted on 01/22/2012 8:54:04 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, $pend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: TBBT
I am a Gingrich supporter.

However, Romney's people may have been correct in diagnosing Newt's strength as flowing almost solely from the debates. After Florida there will be a long period without debates; thus Newt's main strength will be undercut. Newt is going to need lots of money.

On the other side even negative press with lots of explanations as to "Why Newt should not have happened," will keep Newt before the public. The wisest thing Romney's people could do for him is to shut up and not mention South Carolina.

41 posted on 01/22/2012 8:54:57 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SeaHawkFan

A recent article I read said that almost 50% of returned LDS missionaries leave the LDS church after their mission.

I would not be surprised. After 2 years, it either turns you into ‘Norman Mormon’ or it makes you no longer believe it.

Here is one guy who became a Born Again Christian on his LDS mission and then got sent home from his LDS mission with only 3 weeks to go because he bore his testimony and didn’t mention Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon or the LDS church - just Jesus Christ and salvation by grace. For that, he was punished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSxIxp7KPo


42 posted on 01/22/2012 9:03:31 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I’ve been saying generally the same thing to people since this Bain issue took hold. I saw it as a brilliant strategy, and it amazed me that so many intelligent people (even Mark Steyn, for God’s sake) bristled at Newt and Perry’s going after Romney as if they were coming from the Left, and using their arguments. OF COURSE THEY WERE! They have effectively pre-empted the attacks from the Left against Romney, stolen their thunder, as it were, because, don’t forget, the Left WANTED Romney as the R candidate. They have struggled mightily to get rid of everyone EXCEPT Romney, in order to clear the path TO Romney. As they are now learning, there are some bumps along that road.
What your analysis implies, brilliantly, is also that their is one big Political Establishment, all playing the political game, and the Republicans want to stay in business,maintaining their position in the Establishment, as they usually have, BY LOSING.


43 posted on 01/22/2012 9:03:31 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: TBBT
As they see it, Team Gingrich doesn't have the money, professionalism, brains, or organization of the Romney campaign.

It's easy to understand, really. The people who are amazed are establishment Republicans. They aren't in this for ideology. This is their JOB (actually, their career). So, you see, they are all about whatever slick packaging that will get them the most votes (hence the "moderates uber alles" strategy of the average campaign adviser).

Romney has no central ideas, other than that he should be (no, dammit, deserves to be!) President. So he calls in all of his advisers and they conduct focus groups and carefully stage rallies and test messages, until they come out with a carefully scripted image they think will win. Because that's all its about.

Rush himself said that the reason for all of the Romney support amongst the establishment is they think that Romney will have enough coattails to keep them in power (though not to defeat Obama). And that's what this is about. The party hacks who make their living off of the taxpayers' (and contributors') dime are seeking their own reelection first... and they see Romney as carefully scripted enough that he won't scare off voters. He's safe (in a Bob-Dolian way).

Newt has ideas! That's why he is resonating with the average Republican. He doesn't need careful scripting (which has the Mittiots so puzzled), because the Republican base is connecting with his IDEAS, and his articulation of them. That's what scares the establishment. Romney would jettison any idea or "principle" in a heartbeat if it proved unpopular. But someone with ideas might not, and jeopardize all of the phoney-baloney jobs that these political leeches are so desperate to maintain. Newt is worse than Obama (to them), because he is dangerous to their power. He might say something to offend the precious moderates, and then they might get put out of a job.

What's so funny is that what makes Romney so unelectable is exactly why the establishment labels him as "electable"...

44 posted on 01/22/2012 9:07:30 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: CainConservative

“Insider Advantage
Romney 26, Gingrich 34, Santorum 11, Paul 13, Perry
Gingrich +8”

Wow, fellow Caniac, absolutely AMAZING. Romney’s looking to again get that 25-30% level of support. All Newt has to do is continue to dominate the remainder of the field, as he did in SC, and it’s game over in Florida...and maybe all the way to November.


45 posted on 01/22/2012 9:11:09 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: ExtremeUnction; Jim Robinson
Note this and mark your calendar. Romney will be the nominee.

Put your money where your mouth is. I'll bet you a additional $20 donation to FR that you are wrong. You game?

46 posted on 01/22/2012 9:14:36 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: Matt Hatter

Conservatives and independents hate Romney but “people” like liberals and lefty morons from the MSM love him as the liberal election playbook for 2012 has Mitt written inside it..not Newt.


47 posted on 01/22/2012 9:23:14 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: CainConservative
Latest Polls: Monday, January 23

Oh it’s getting better.... Moments ago:

Florida Republican Presidential Primary

Insider Advantage

Romney 26, Gingrich 34, Santorum 11, Paul 13, Perry

Gingrich +8

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

I remember Don Rumsfeld talking about the swing of the pendulum. It feels good to see it swing our way again!!!! There would be nothing better to me than a Rummy endorsement for Newt. Those two are cut from the same cloth.

48 posted on 01/22/2012 9:37:18 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“Newt has advisors. He loses them to Perry.
Perry is at 35%. These new advisors he hires help him to 6% immediately.
Bachmann, with highly paid Rollins, crashes and burns.
Cain, with no advisors, surges.
Then Newt, without his advisors, surges.

Hmm.

Maybe it’s a good thing not to have these advisors.

priceless observation :)


49 posted on 01/22/2012 9:37:45 PM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Nice post (even though I had to stand back at the other side of my living room to read it, lol).


50 posted on 01/22/2012 9:40:34 PM PST by mkjessup (I support the *NEWTerizer* - the only candidate who WILL Kick 0bama's AZZ!!)
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