Skip to comments.BREAKING on Fast and Furious: Arizona Moves to Prosecute Those the Feds Won’t
Posted on 01/23/2012 6:44:45 AM PST by marktwain
Nationally, Fast and Furious has entered the vernacular. As a result, Americans of all walks of life now know that the ATF and DOJ oversaw the sale of approximately 2,500 guns to straw purchasers who, in turn, passed them to criminals in Mexico and elsewhere. Moreover, Americans know that the plan from the get-go was to have these guns carried across an international border and passed to criminals whom the ATF then planned to arrest (but they never got around to arresting them because they hadnt bothered tracing the guns from the point of sale).
Therefore, Americans also know that of the 2,500 guns originally sold, approximately 1,300 are still on the streets and unaccounted for. At least two of these guns were found at Border Patrol Agent Brian Terrys murder scene in December 2010, and Americans increasingly know that while Terry may have been the first American victim, odds are he wont be the last with such a large number of weapons on the loose.
Lastly, Americans know that President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have both denied complicity in Fast and Furious, particularly in the gun-running aspects of it. Throughout the course of denying complicity, Holder has changed his story more than once, Obama has demonstrated confusion over when he first learned about Fast and Furious, and former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke (Arizona) was allowed to retire without charges although he was demonstrably involved in covering up the connection between Fast and Furious and Agent Terrys death.
Perhaps through all this, the one thing the American people have witnessed to a sickening degree is the stark failure to prosecute those involved in Fast and Furious to the full extent of the law. Holder has been handled with kid gloves, Burke is now living a private life, and Obama is not being asked to clear up the many discrepancies in his timeline.
Where the same state that brought you S.B. 1070the immigration law aimed at allowing the state to do the job the feds wont dois set to open their own investigation into Fast and Furious and bring state charges against those the feds have heretofore refused to charge. Andy Tobin, Arizonas Speaker of the House, will announce tomorrow (Monday, January 23rd) the scope of the investigation, and will call for state investigators to have their findings back to him no later than March 30.
The bottom line: Arizona is about to the do the job the feds wont do again.
Sovereign states—Doing the work that the Federal government won’t.
I guess from here on out, anyone appearing before ISSA will take the fifth. I wonder who Arizona will indict first.
And showing that a complete collapse of the federal government would not be a disaster. The states are there to pick up the pieces; and would probably do a better job of strengthening the country without the parasites in DC.
“I predict that a great many people will plead the 5th Amendment.”
And I predict that it will end there. No prosecution of hussein or holder because they are above the law. And they will protect those below them.
It seems like everyone is being led around by their noses on this F & F thing and doing too little in getting those involved to flip and turn states evidence in order to avoid prosecution.
There are numerous state laws that cover the type of criminal activities that have taken place in the Department of Justice (DoJ). So much so and to the extent that it would allow states Attorney Generals (AG), County District Attorneys (DA), and city prosecutors to proceed with their own investigations (piggybacking off of Issa/Grassley investigations) and prosecute a number of these people as being accessories to the murder of federal agents and the gun running that occurred within their state and county jurisdiction. There is no type of claim of immunity to prosecution when it develops that the causal effect of a persons malfeasance in office leads to the death of innocent people.
You want to get results and see them spilling their guts, then start filing criminal complaints and watch the plea bargain deals exposing the people responsible. I forget which politician it was that almost exploded and had a nervous breakdown when the suggestion was made to prosecute criminally the actors in F & F! And .. No independent prosecutor until after this upcoming election in order to avoid the appointment of one of Obama's or Holder's cronies. AGs, DAs, and prosecutors .. have some balls and just do it! Just do it!
197 posted on October 16, 2011 10:06:31 AM MDT by Old Badger (I still like Palin because she will tell like it is!)
“Nationally, Fast and Furious has entered the vernacular.” - Not to those who solely watch NBC News. To those viewers, it still only brings thoughts of a Vin Diesel movie.
Tables turning ping.
You got that 100% correct.
And the DOJ sues.
Sorry - thank you for playing.
I don’t know if they can.
Re ‘Americans from all walks of life know’ -
Major fallacy. Americans who get their news from the lib media know NOTHING about Fast & Furious.
I have friends and relatives who have never heard of it. And if it makes Obama look bad, they don’t want to.
Don’t assume everyone knows what we know. They don’t and they want to stay that way. Find me a midwestern state newspaper that mentions it anywhere on the first page - I bet you won’t be able to. I am pretty sure the Dayton Daily has never mentioned it, if it has, it is buried somewhere.
I occasionally send lib friends articles about things that I know they will never know about otherwise. Mostly it just ticks them off (at me). They get their news from Politico and think Media Matters is the final authority.
You know how we conservatives just make things up.
I’ve said the same here before.... indict each federal employee responsible by NAME personally on STATE statutes for reckless criminal endangerment and collusion to hide state crimes. Tag their asses personally and make it stick. The key is to do this under existing STATE statutes for state crimes.
Thanks for the ping/.
Personally I would like to Arizona shine a powerful enough strobe light up Obummer's a$$ it makes his head flash like a freaking neon sign. And Holder needs to be holding intense lets-get-acquanted sessions with a 300 lb guy named Bubba deep within the confines of Leavenworth Prison.
A thread here on FR reported that NBC Nightly News had not carried one story about Fast & Furious during the entire year of 2011.
I emailed the local NBC affiliate asking them how many times stories about F & F had been aired on their station.
One time on a Thursday afternoon in November, they gave the date and time.
It was on their early edition of the evening news, due to the time slot that newscast does not have high ratings.
You nailed it. Americans who get their news from the lib media know NOTHING about Fast & Furious.
NBC ran the total number of US Soldiers killed in the wars NIGHTLY on the Evening News, for two years, until election night 2008.
That STOPPED on election night, and they have only mentioned it THREE TIMES in the last three years!!