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"But he was a child of the Great Depression and old-school Catholicism, and the Church’s biggest legacy of the 20th century likely is the way it covered up — didn’t even acknowledge — institutionalized pedophilia in its ranks."

Perhaps it's his multiple concussions talking but when you're a bigoted jackass like Rick Telander, you may really believe that kind of crap.

1 posted on 01/23/2012 10:35:41 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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martyr? I thought he died from lung cancer? JoeP was a fantastic coach, and was not aggressive in dealing/reporting/stopping child rape and lost his status because of that failure. Not sure why he would be a martyr for that.


2 posted on 01/23/2012 10:44:06 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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:: Joe Paterno, who died Sunday morning at age 85, will go down as a martyr. ::

Obviously, Telander does not understand the term “martyr”.


3 posted on 01/23/2012 10:45:33 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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This guy should work for the NYT. Amazing how he goes outside of the story just so he can get his digs in against the Church. What a load of crap.


4 posted on 01/23/2012 10:45:33 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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Paterno and Cardinal Law share the same legacy. They both protected pedophiles who raped children. Unfortunately one of the two is still breathing and working for the Pope. These are the facts.

5 posted on 01/23/2012 10:45:46 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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Sorry, but I was kinda’ hoping JoePa would face charges in a court of law, and if found guilty, be marched of to prison.

I have no respect for the man and even less now that it’s clear that, because of his deliberate coverup, dozens (if not more) young men were sodomized by this Sandusky pervert. All because JoePa didn’t wanna’ rock the boat and screw up his football program (screw up the youngsters’ lives is ok).

And to somehow tie this to the Catholic Church’s problems is despicable!


6 posted on 01/23/2012 10:46:33 AM PST by laweeks
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Martyred by cancer?
His great enemies have control of the big C?

He was a man facing scandal and disgrace but he was no martyr.
People wanted him to face an investigation and trial and probably to face civil liabilities and possibly some short jail time.

Dying cheated justice.
You don't get to be a martyr by dying of cancer.
Not old men who die in their mid eighties of natural causes.

Martyrs are people who give their life willingly for a great cause.
Don't cheapen the term.
Certainly not for a man who made an exorbitant amount of money teaching grown men to run around playing a game with an inflated ball for decades.

7 posted on 01/23/2012 10:54:05 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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All it takes for evil to win is for good men to do the MINIMUM that the law requires.


9 posted on 01/23/2012 11:06:46 AM PST by DManA
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I won’t get into the matter of the degree of Paterno’s guilt. It seems to me that he is less guilty than dozens of others, some of whom were involved with firing him.

Or even this writer, who would insist that colleges must stand up for “gay rights” at the same time as he brushes over the fact that the perp was gay.

But it’s certainly noticeable that everyone in the media just loves to blame it all on Joe Paterno, and glosses over all the rest of it, including a DA who committed suicide over the case and a university president who was recently hired specifically because he promised to expand gay rights on campus.

The same reason they attack RC priests for things done 30 years ago at the height of the sexual revolution which they so much love, while giving a free pass to school teachers and others who are still up to the same dirty tricks.

They are happy to say that Joe Paterno, the ideal hero, was really an evil man. But NOT that homosexual pederasty is the real problem, and that it continued there not because of Paterno but because of his superiors. Maybe he could have done more—but so could the whole lot of them—president, deans, board of trustees, and law officials.


13 posted on 01/23/2012 11:24:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Nothing but false idolatry on parade.

It's almost seems to be the worst when it comes to sports and what those engaged in at any level - as student, coach, for college or pro, get away with.

We need a wall of separation between school and sport.

15 posted on 01/23/2012 11:43:19 AM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum has the Big Mo' right now in FL. /s)
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Listening to one of the MSM last night, the reporter went on and on about JoePed's "integrity" and "character".

In the eye's of Liberals this is true. But to those that have even an ounce of Honor left in them, they see that this man lived a life in shame.

For to be told that harm was being done to children and not do everything in your power to put a stop to it makes you a coward.
When people say he did so much for the young men in the football program, the children who were raped, can point towards that same program and say "He ignored us".

When people point at the record book with Paterno's name, it should say 0 and 1. Because in the end he lost at what really mattered.

ED

20 posted on 01/23/2012 2:10:17 PM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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Can we all agree that there is no more sweetness to big-time college coaching? That it died with $5 million contracts, TV pressures and Bobby Knight?

For most of my adult life I've been a fan of Bobby Knight. Did he preside over some similar scandal that I missed?

Would that he had built his reputation at Minnesota rather than Indiana. If he had I bet we would have avoided some of the moral and criminal fiascos that took place...again...through my adult life, under three or four different head coaches and associated with Minnesota basketball. Plus we might have won an NCAA title or two along the way.

22 posted on 01/23/2012 2:21:53 PM PST by stevem
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