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White House sides with TSA in Rand Paul standoff
The Hill ^ | 01/23/12 | Keith Laing

Posted on 01/23/2012 11:20:29 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron

The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration in its standoff with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and his father, Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)

The elder Paul called the TSA a "police state" Monday after Sen. Paul was reportedly detained by TSA after he refused to take a pat-down from TSA officials at the Nashville International Airport.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Monday that he didn't have any reaction to Paul's comment about "police state."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dhscriminals; obamaspervs; randpauldetained; thugs; tsa; tsapervs
I thought Congress Critters had Constitution protections against arrest and detainment while conducting their official business?
1 posted on 01/23/2012 11:20:34 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Just Dear Reader practicing the entire detention of Congress...


2 posted on 01/23/2012 11:24:34 AM PST by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

They do I believe if they are on the way to Congress.

I seem to remember Pat Kennedy claiming he was on the way to a Congress meeting at 3 am when he ran into a barricade outside the capitol.

http://wonkette.com/171689/breaking-rep-patrick-kennedy-drunk-driving-crashes-car

Yes: I found it.


3 posted on 01/23/2012 11:24:42 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Las Vegas Ron

” I thought Congress Critters had Constitution protections against arrest and detainment while conducting their official business? “

Yeah - but ‘Rand Paul (R-IN) acted stupidly’, don’tcha know??

/sarc


4 posted on 01/23/2012 11:25:51 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"I thought Congress Critters had Constitution protections against arrest and detainment while conducting their official business?"

That's in the Constitution; and we know what Obama thinks of that old, dead document...

5 posted on 01/23/2012 11:27:25 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Maybe if mr POTUS and his handlers lurked at FR, they’d discover that the constitution is on Rand’s side. But that probably would not have stopped them anyway.


6 posted on 01/23/2012 11:27:30 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration

Color me surprised.

7 posted on 01/23/2012 11:28:31 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Venturer

Yeah, I remember that too.

But in this case, I think Rand was actually on his way back to DC.


8 posted on 01/23/2012 11:29:53 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Oh, sure, like the White Hut would side with TSA if it had been Sheila “Don’t you know who I am” Jackson-Lee.


9 posted on 01/23/2012 11:30:10 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: cuban leaf

Leftists, inherently, place far higher value on the ad hoc decision making ability of those elites/judges who are alive today

over any written (inherently in the past) document, law, agreement, contract, or even the personal wisdom of anyone that lived in the past.

This is a huge concept, and it is one of the first consequences of their base worldview.


10 posted on 01/23/2012 11:30:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: cuban leaf
Maybe if mr POTUS and his handlers lurked at FR, they’d discover that the constitution is on Rand’s side.

It was probably his pocket Constitution that set off the alarms!

11 posted on 01/23/2012 11:32:33 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

If the Republican’s were smart (which they are not) they would let Paul do the GOP response to the State of the Union...better yet, let Newt do it.


12 posted on 01/23/2012 11:34:24 AM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

***The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration***

Did anyone really think otherwise?

Nobody on or offline has been able to give me a justification for Bush’s creation of DHS when we have so many other bureaus and agencies slated to do the job. No justification to federalize the TSA either.

Now look what we have. Thanks a lot Jorge.


13 posted on 01/23/2012 11:34:44 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Real women don't kill their children.)
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To: Venturer

http://transcripts.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/05/17/pkennedy.cnn/

He did assault a security guard at the airport. Claiming he was on his way back to Congress.


14 posted on 01/23/2012 11:35:12 AM PST by lonerepubinma
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Rep. Paul, who is one of four remaining Republican candidates for president, disagreed Monday afternoon. Paul said after he confirmed the incident involving Sen. Paul on his Twitter page that it showed why the TSA should be eliminated.

"The police state in this country is growing out of control," the elder Paul said in a statement released by his presidential campaign.

"One of the ultimate embodiments of this is the TSA that gropes and grabs our children, our seniors, and our loved ones and neighbors with disabilities," he continued. "The TSA does all of this while doing nothing to keep us safe. “That is why my ‘Plan to Restore America,’ in additional to cutting $1 trillion dollars in federal spending in one year, eliminates the TSA."

For anyone baffled by the continued support for Ron Paul, I ask what other candidate will speak this candidly and forcefully about our federal government? If Newt or Santorum would adopt these ideas, they would get probably half of Pauls current supporters.

15 posted on 01/23/2012 11:35:12 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Related thread:

Senator Rand Paul Detained by TSA at Nashville Airport
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2836584/posts
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Article 1 Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution:

“The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.”
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The Senate is back in session today at 2 p.m., with votes scheduled at 4:30 p.m. It is not clear if Paul will make it to Washington by 4:30 p.m. on his new flight.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/rand-paul-in-pat-down-standoff-with-tsa-in-nashville/
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“Soule noted that Paul was eventually rebooked on another flight and rescreened without incident.”

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/23/politics/rand-paul-tsa/index.html


16 posted on 01/23/2012 11:37:06 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

No doubt about it, when Paul is right he’s right on the money....and he’s not bashful about sharing his thoughts.

Too bad he comes off as a quack and is so woefully wrong on Foreign Policy.


17 posted on 01/23/2012 11:39:19 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: grobdriver

With all the problems that need to be solved, the regime is concerned with scoring cheap political points


18 posted on 01/23/2012 11:39:57 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

TSA = Gestapo.

Of course the White House backs its own personal “blueshirts.”

Resist. Rebel. Tear down the police state that has been forced upon us. Its time for the slaves to throw off their chains and hold the masters accountable.


19 posted on 01/23/2012 11:40:15 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: RightOnTheBorder
For anyone baffled by the continued support for Ron Paul, I ask what other candidate will speak this candidly and forcefully about our federal government? If Newt or Santorum would adopt these ideas, they would get probably half of Paul's current supporters.

End rote enforcement!
20 posted on 01/23/2012 11:40:42 AM PST by kenavi (1% of the 1% were born in the 1%.)
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To: Crazieman
Just Dear Reader practicing the entire detention of Congress...

And the detention of all citizens deemed to be either conservative or republican, own guns, go to church, desire American sovereignty, pro-life, didn't contribute to democrat coffers, or failed to vote for Obama.

21 posted on 01/23/2012 11:41:49 AM PST by MamaDearest
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To: thouworm
Article 1 Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution:

Ah, thanks.

I knew it was in there but was having a hard time finding it.

22 posted on 01/23/2012 11:42:19 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Newt in particular has a GOLDEN opportunity here. He could speak up on Sen. Paul’s behalf on how the TSA is out of hand. Even proposing what Senator Paul’s own father has, which is to turn over most or all of the TSA’s functions to the airlines themselves...is a winner.

He could endear himself to some Paul supporters by coming out in support of his son, and score a big one for liberty at the same time.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 12:14:04 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Section. 6.

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.


Wonder if they're using Breach of the Peace or if the constitution as a whole is irrelevant to the WH.

24 posted on 01/23/2012 12:14:47 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

Like when they tried to Confiscate the Congressional Medal of Honor from Joe Foss, because an 86 year old WWII Fighter Ace might use it as a weapon.

http://www.homeofheroes.com/news/archives/2002_0100_foss.html

“Wonder if they’re using Breach of the Peace or if the constitution as a whole is irrelevant to the WH.”

They view Our Entire Constitution as a Breach of THEIR Piece.


25 posted on 01/23/2012 12:31:59 PM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Wonder if the White House would have done the same thing had the Congressman’s name been James Clyburn?


26 posted on 01/23/2012 12:40:23 PM PST by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: grobdriver
The White House is standing by the Transportation Security Administration

Color me surprised.


Wait! That sounds racist!
27 posted on 01/23/2012 12:45:25 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: animal172

That would be Rrraaaassssiissssts!


28 posted on 01/23/2012 12:47:11 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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29 posted on 01/23/2012 1:34:02 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Astronaut

“TSA = Gestapo.

Of course the White House backs its own personal “blueshirts.”

Resist. Rebel. Tear down the police state that has been forced upon us. Its time for the slaves to throw off their chains and hold the masters accountable.”

After the military cuts, it’ll be a civilian army just as big as the military.


30 posted on 01/23/2012 1:40:08 PM PST by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: bgill
Oh, sure, like the White Hut would side with TSA if it had been Sheila “Don’t you know who I am” Jackson-Lee.

LOL. They would have let her board because of her wild @$$ hairdo.

31 posted on 01/23/2012 1:45:15 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Obama has the uncanny, almost instinctual ability to come down on the wrong side of every single issue he sees.


32 posted on 01/23/2012 1:47:37 PM PST by Lazamataz (Norm Lenhart knows nothing about reloading.)
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To: Lazamataz

It is instinctual, he’s an America hating sumbeyotch commie.


33 posted on 01/23/2012 1:59:17 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Agree about the thug agency DHS.

They are to the ports, airports, and border points in 2012 what Vito Genovese was to the ports of NYC in 1953.


34 posted on 01/23/2012 2:13:46 PM PST by Palladin (Will it be a Mitt/Newt ticket?)
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To: Uncle Ike
Not only that, he's not Muslim. If he were, the White Hut would have immediately issued a statement of condemnation against the TSA, issued an apology to all Muslims around the world and announced that Janet Napolitano will hold a press conference detailing new immediate changes to the TSA screening procedures.
35 posted on 01/23/2012 2:24:25 PM PST by liberalh8ter (I don't like what the world has become....)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

A legislator detained by govt goons. It’s like a scene from Seven Days In May.


36 posted on 01/23/2012 2:37:02 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky
A legislator detained by govt goons. It’s like a scene from Seven Days In May.

Hmmmm, good idea for movie tonight.

Not sure I can handle another debate, a good movie is a nice alternative...thanks!

37 posted on 01/23/2012 3:05:04 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

To be sure, it was a great film, but the lefty bias is pretty obvious.


38 posted on 01/23/2012 3:37:55 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky
To be sure, it was a great film, but the lefty bias is pretty obvious.

No doubt about it, the scenario is a great topic for discussion though.

The acting is of course second to none... but Frederick March and Burt Lancaster in the WH going back and forth was classic dialogue, thought provoking, they just do not write scripts like that anymore.

I loved the movie Dr. Strangelove too, even though it had the obvious leftist tilt also, but what a movie!

At least those movies had some quality to them, can't say the same for the crap that is churned out today.

39 posted on 01/23/2012 3:54:59 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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