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The GOP Establishment in Abject Panic: They Don't Understand Their Own Base (Rush Limbaugh)
The Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 1/23/2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/23/2012 12:50:08 PM PST by Yossarian

The GOP Establishment in Abject Panic: They Don't Understand Their Own Base
January 23, 2012

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RUSH: Folks, the Republican establishment is in a full-blown panic. And I -- and I'm not doing an I-told-you-so. This is a giant I-told-you-so. This is a reminder that I will illustrate. I told you this in almost the exact words you heard on television from Republican consultants and establishment people. I told you this was their fear back on November 10th of last year. They are in an out roar, a panic. They are secretly trying to get Mitch Daniels to get back in the race. There are entreaties being made to Bobby Jindal to get in the race. They are panicked. They are scared to death they're going to lose the House and not win the Senate, and I told you on November 10th that's their primary concern. That's why they were apoplectic at Christine O'Donnell and Sharron Angle getting Tea Party nominations.

It's about the Senate. It's about being in charge of the money. It's not about cutting spending. The Republican establishment is not signed on to the cutting spending business. People ask me, "What do you mean, who is this Republican establishment?" Two things. They don't like conservatives and they're not really all that concerned about spending. They want to be in charge of it. That's who they are. And they are not gonna be in charge of it if they don't hold the House and if they don't pick up the Senate. And that's what they really want. They're not and never have been convinced that Obama can be beat.

Now, Newt has thrown this thing into a tizzy. They don't know what to do. They wanted this wrapped up. They don't understand why it happened. They're blaming all the wrong people. They're blaming their own voters. They're blaming the media. They're blaming stupidity on the part of the voters. They haven't the slightest idea why this happened in South Carolina. It's not too much democracy going on in their minds; they just don't understand it. They don't understand the base of their own party. They resent the base of their own party. They don't understand the passion. I was telling Snerdley this morning, 'cause he came in here, gave me his theory, which I promptly shot down. His theory is that we all owe ABC this, 'cause if it weren't for ABC and John King asking the questions, Newt woulda never been -- and to a certain extent, that's true. But why?

Why did those questions tee Newt up, and why did Newt know what to do with them? Very simple. I've been doing this show for 23 years, and one of my themes from the beginning, from 1988, has been that the American conservative middle class are the ones playing by the rules. They are the ones that obey the law to the best of their ability. They raise their kids. They try to shield their kids from cultural rot and depravity. They try to keep them off drugs. They try to get them into college. They follow as best they can all the rules and they're laughed at and made fun of and they are impugned everywhere they look. They go to the movies, they're mocked and made fun of. They turn on the radio, listen to music, they're laughed at, mocked, and made fun of. They turn on television, watch an average television show, they are laughed at, mocked and made fun of. They open the newspaper, same thing. They've had it. They've been dealing with this for over 20 years, and nobody's fought back for 'em. Not one person ever has fought back for 'em.

The last time somebody actually spoke up in this large a forum, a presidential forum, would have to be Reagan; and Reagan did it not so much by what he said (although he had his moments). He did it by winning. He did it by skunking these people! Since then, the Republican leadership has not seemed focused so much on winning and they sit there and they take it. Whenever their own voters are insulted -- when their own voters are laughed at and impugned and called racists, sexist, bigot homophobes -- the Republicans don't defend them nor themselves because they're scared to death the independents are gonna be upset, or the media is gonna be upset.

So the base of the Republican Party, the voters, have been bottling up for 25 years, a resentment -- an anger, if you will -- that their own party won't fight for them, won't fight for itself, won't fight for what's right. So when Newt gets teed up with these questions from Juan Williams and John King and whoever else and simply says what they've been thinking for 25 years, they say, "Finally!" What they want right now is fight-back, what they want is push-back, what they want is kick-back, what they want is smack-down! What they want is for these people who have been laughing at them and mocking them and impugning them, put in their place.

They're tired of the cultural rot taking place in the country. They're tired of the incessant growth of government and spending. They're tired of it, and they're frustrated as they can be that members of their own party who get elected can't seem to articulate their own passions. Politics is about passion, and the Republican Party doesn't seem to have it! There's always fear of somebody. Fear of the media, fear of Democrats. Well, Newt doesn't act like he's got any fear. So how many wives does he got? "I don't care!" What did he do for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac? "I don't care." What are his national disapproval ratings?

"I don't care! Finally somebody's telling the bad guys who they are, what to do and that we're not gonna take it anymore -- or that we don't want to take it anymore." Now, you can sit there and you can say that that's cockeyed, that elections aren't won that way. Uhhhh, they aren't? Who just won? Who's already leading in the polls in Florida? George Will had a fascinating statistic over the weekend. Mitt Romney -- Mr. Electability, according to the Republican establishment; Mr. The Only Guy That Can Give Us the Senate -- is 9-and-16 in his election career. He's won nine and lost 16. He's nine out of 25. That, they tell us, is Mr. Electability -- and they're sitting around, the base is, and they're saying, "We don't care about this traditional stuff that you care about that's kept you in second place all these years."

It really isn't complicated. But the resentment for the base that the Republican establishment has is obvious, and of course the Republican establishment knows that. They know that the Tea Party is not embraced, that the Republican establishment's trying to marginalize the Tea Party. So really, at least for me, is not hard to understand. Now, there's an abject sense of panic that has set in over, "Oh, no! You mean this race is gonna go on? Oh, no!" Yeah. The race is gonna go on. See, they thought that this would be over before it started. Remember what I told you: They're gonna split the conservative vote and elect the moderate. They were gonna stand traditional theory on its head.

The traditional theory is: In the primaries, you play to your base, you win the nomination; then when you win the nomination and go to the general, that's when you go push moderates like McCain does -- and you lose. They decided, "We're gonna lose from the get-go. We're gonna nominate a moderate. We're gonna take conservatives in our party that we can't stand and we're gonna have as many of them up there as possible splitting vote," in this case splitting the polls, because there weren't any votes until January. But they were hoping the polls would end this race before a vote had been cast. So they welcomed Perry getting in and Ron Paul and Herman Cain and all these people, because it allowed them the opportunity to ridicule them.

I'm talking about our own establishment. Forget the media and Democrats. I'm not even talking about them yet. (We'll get to them in due course.) So the more conservatives the better. The more you can criticize 'em, impugn 'em, but the more important thing is you split the support. Romney versus all the others; Romney by default wins. They were hoping to create psychological attitude that said, "You know what? There's no way. 'Cause if all these guys stay in, Mitt's it. The conservative vote's gonna split itself when the votes finally start being counted and blah, blah, blah." Now look at what happened when you actually start voting! This is why they wanted to make sure the vote didn't count. They wanted it over before this.

Now, if you happened to watch cable TV on Saturday night -- if you have as boring a life as I do and you were watching cable TV on Saturday night (laughing) -- what did you hear? You heard the same pundits. I don't care what network you went to. You heard the same pundits lamenting the same things, worried about the same things (primarily their predictions being wrong), talking about how, "This can't go on. The longer this goes on the worse it is for the Republican Party," and I'm sitting there saying, "What's so bad about this?" There was total shock. Why was there shock? The polling data before South Carolina told us what was gonna happen.

The shock was that Newt won the women vote, he won the independent vote, he won every congressional strict in South Carolina. That was the shock. Everything that they told us Newt couldn't do, he did. Everything they told us a conservative couldn't do, he did. Every bit of conventional wisdom was stood on its head. Every bit of "electability" conventional wisdom from the so-called experts was stood on its head Saturday night, and so pundits and the analysts and the consultants are trying to analyze it and figure it out -- and the best they can come up with is, "We've gotta put a stop to this! If this goes go on, it's gonna kill the Republican Party. Oh, no."

I'm watching this and I say, "Wait a minute. Do you people understand yet you can't control this? You gave it your best shot; you can't control this. In fact, you may be affecting this in ways it wouldn't be happening just by the way you're handling yourselves." I'm talking about media. My question is -- and, look, I'm getting my shared of panicked e-mails, too. Oh, and I'll tell you something else I'm getting. I'm getting e-mails with my own words (not attributed to me) sent to me. That's one of the reasons I'm gonna go back to November 10th and remind you when all this was first predicted. "Rush, there's panic out there! Newt? We're gonna lose the Senate if it's Newt."

"Oh, yeah, really? Yeah? Where did you hear that?"

Now, ladies and gentlemen, for me, a protracted primary that goes on to the convention? Bring it on! The fact that conservatism is gonna be debated? Romney, if he has a prayer here, is gonna have to figure conservatism out. He's gonna have to able to articulate it like he believes it, loves it, and understands it. The one thing Mitt Romney has trouble doing is connecting with his audience. That's why the jokes of him being a Ken doll. He just doesn't connect. The campaign places look great, the flags and the banners and the popcorn and the peanuts are all good, but the, "I believe in an America founded by the founders, and I want America to believe in America that America believes in America and founders believe in America..."

What, what, what? Platitudes aren't gonna get it, and I don't know that... Romney obviously has decided to go after Newt on Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. It worked in Iowa with the super PAC ads, but I don't know. I think Romney's problem is really not so much Newt as it is what it's always been: The base just doesn't think he's conservative! That's all it is, and of course that ticks off the establishment. Let me ask you... Oh, you know, we did Operation Chaos. Oh, do you know what? I didn't know this. Nobody tells me anything. Have you seen the George Clooney movie Ides of March? Well, it was up for Academy Awards. (George Clooney, the actor.) It's about Operation Chaos.

The subplot, the first 40 minutes of that movie is about Operation Chaos and how ticked off the Democrats are. Nobody told me. It ends up being a subplot to the movie. Don't worry, I'm not gonna spoil it if you haven't seen it, but Clooney is an incumbent Ohio governor running for reelection and his opponent is gonna register a bunch of Republicans and independents in the primary to come in and vote for anybody but the incumbent. They even have Chris Matthews, a clip of Chris Matthews on MSNBC saying, "Yeah, Rush Limbaugh calls it 'Operation Chaos'" and explain it. It's clear that whoever ran this movie put it together is ticked off at Operation Chaos, so the first 40 minutes of the movie are about that.

It turns out that's not what the whole thing is about. I'm watching this, but my question is: "Did a long, protracted fight hurt Obama in 2008?" Did it hurt him? Did it hurt him? Now, you might say, "Yeah, he started making these bitter-clinger comments. If he hadn't had the media behind him..." If, if, if... The fact of the matter is that thing went down to the superdelegates toss-up and Obama wins and Hillary lost. So it's another bit of conventional wisdom. "We've gotta stop this campaign. Oh, my God. How? We can't have this. Can't have Newt out there. Why, Newt's gonna turn everybody off before it's all over! Newt's just gonna destroy the party. Newt's gonna destroy the party! We've got to stop this."

(interruption) What argument about the general election? I just got through saying... (interruption) Well, what do you think my point is in asking if it hurt Obama? That was a long primary. Did he win? He won! Operation Chaos, we kept it going. We were trying to have Obama exposed; we figured Hillary was the only person in the campaign with the gonads to do it. The press weren't vetting Obama. The whole point about Operation Chaos was to have the truth about Obama come out -- and to have a greater chance of that, we wanted to have the campaign go on. The campaign went on and on and on, a long campaign, and it didn't hurt Obama, did it?

So why is it that a long primary campaign is gonna hurt the Republican nominee? If the result of a long campaign is that this party finally figures out that the only way they have to win this is conservatism, it's a win-win. Let it play out! Don't panic! If Newt is a flawed candidate, it is a long campaign that's gonna show. Everybody is saying, "Newt can't win in the general. He's too flawed." Fine, then don't worry about it! He'll implode sometime in the primary. If he's gonna implode, he's gonna implode! The longer it goes on, the longer he has to implode. I'm just taking their theory and throwing it back at 'em. Why panic here, folks? Everything's okay!

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A bit long, but I think Rush nails it - and also wisely brings up things Newt should be concerned about.
1 posted on 01/23/2012 12:50:16 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian

Several websites and news broadcasts here in FLA are portraying Rush as being anti-Newt and pro-Willard. What’s up with this?


2 posted on 01/23/2012 12:56:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Yossarian

I skimmed it, but Rush is right. I also think conservatives are especially fried about McCain being jammed down our throats last time — out of the blue, thank you — and then the Republican Establishment hog-tying Sarah so she couldn’t be Sarah.

This time it’s not happening!


3 posted on 01/23/2012 12:59:46 PM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Yossarian

I skimmed it, but Rush is right. I also think conservatives are especially fried about McCain being jammed down our throats last time — out of the blue, thank you — and then the Republican Establishment hog-tying Sarah so she couldn’t be Sarah.

This time it’s not happening!


4 posted on 01/23/2012 1:00:18 PM PST by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Yossarian
The "GOP Establishment" and Mitt Romney are DEMOCRAT MOLES. Dig them out. They don't care between Romney and Obama.
5 posted on 01/23/2012 1:02:04 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Yossarian
BBGolf
"Terribly sorry, old boy, but your associate membership does not entitle you to golfing privileges at this country club.
6 posted on 01/23/2012 1:09:49 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Yossarian

I just love the smell of RINO’s melting in the morning...


7 posted on 01/23/2012 1:10:12 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Yossarian

The GOP ‘establishment’ is just beginning to realize that they are on the losing end of a Conservative coup. WE are not their base. All their base are belong to US and we are setting up the bomb.


8 posted on 01/23/2012 1:10:50 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Yossarian
the American conservative middle class are the ones playing by the rules. They are the ones that obey the law to the best of their ability. They raise their kids. They try to shield their kids from cultural rot and depravity. They try to keep them off drugs. They try to get them into college. They follow as best they can all the rules and they're laughed at and made fun of and they are impugned everywhere they look.

RUSH LIMBAUGH GETS IT!

9 posted on 01/23/2012 1:13:14 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Old Sarge

What Limbaugh and His “Mini-Me” Hannity do NOT realize is that THEY have turned into “The GOP Establishment”. I see and this thing unfolds that Limbaugh and His “Mini-Me” Hannity will turn into a “Me Too” type and will try to “convince” us that all of this was their idea all along.


10 posted on 01/23/2012 1:14:53 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Yossarian
It really isn't complicated. But the resentment for the base that the Republican establishment has is obvious, and of course the Republican establishment knows that. They know that the Tea Party is not embraced, that the Republican establishment's trying to marginalize the Tea Party.

The solution is simple. The Republican establishment just has to switch places with the Tea Party. Let the leaders of the Tea Party take over the reins of the Republican establishment. Then we will see very positive results for all of us and, better still, for the entire country!

Surely the Republican establishment will better see what is going on if they have to rebuild their base. For now, they should resign in disgrace and let the genuine leaders of the people take over. The Republican establishment knows that they are not leading, so they should get out of the way!

11 posted on 01/23/2012 1:18:00 PM PST by olezip
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To: Yossarian
It really isn't complicated. But the resentment for the base that the Republican establishment has is obvious, and of course the Republican establishment knows that. They know that the Tea Party is not embraced, that the Republican establishment's trying to marginalize the Tea Party.

The solution is simple. The Republican establishment just has to switch places with the Tea Party. Let the leaders of the Tea Party take over the reins of the Republican establishment. Then we will see very positive results for all of us and, better still, for the entire country!

Surely the Republican establishment will better see what is going on if they have to rebuild their base. For now, they should resign in disgrace and let the genuine leaders of the people take over. The Republican establishment knows that they are not leading, so they should get out of the way!

12 posted on 01/23/2012 1:18:28 PM PST by olezip
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To: Yossarian

Now would be a great time for the TeaParty to start laying down their demands for whom they they will support from here on out!

They HAVE to be more organized than the Republican Party and lets get some planks promised out to the people trying to straighten this crap out, not just trying to make friends...


13 posted on 01/23/2012 1:21:04 PM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: US Navy Vet

That’s how I see it too. Especially w Rush giving Mitt this type of campaign advice:

“Romney, if he has a prayer here, is gonna have to figure conservatism out. He’s gonna have to able to articulate it like he believes it, loves it, and understands it.”

Go ahead, Rush. Tell Mitt how to stay competitive. That’s just what the campaign needs, after all; for Mitt to figure out how to better trick the uninformed. /s


14 posted on 01/23/2012 1:22:42 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Yossarian

Everybody go out and buy a case of Zantac (and for the mentally nimble - buy another one of Prozac), because we’ve just taken off on a political roller coaster ride unlike anything most have experienced in their lifetime. This is going to cause some nerve racking upset stomachs as we ride into these primaries.


15 posted on 01/23/2012 1:22:53 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Nervous Tick
We are also the ones who go to work everyday to pay for the needs of our families and while doing that get taxed practically to death to pay for the perks/needs/wants of the political and entitlement classes. We are sick of doing that too!
16 posted on 01/23/2012 1:23:50 PM PST by bamafour
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To: US Navy Vet
What Limbaugh and His “Mini-Me” Hannity do NOT realize is that THEY have turned into “The GOP Establishment”. I see and this thing unfolds that Limbaugh and His “Mini-Me” Hannity will turn into a “Me Too” type and will try to “convince” us that all of this was their idea all along.

I hardly think that Limbaugh or Hannity could be accused of not wanting spending cuts, or tax cuts, or Obamacare not repealed.

And while Hannity certainly has way too many GOP-Ers and psycho-libs on as guests on his shows, at least he can claim to see something in Gingrich that many of us were glossing over. Newt was on so often, especially in his most irritating days, that I think he has a room over in the Hannity House.

17 posted on 01/23/2012 1:25:05 PM PST by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: Yossarian

Problem is it is the conservative GOP versus the RINO GOP and Democrats

Sadly we are in the minority

I ain’t optimistic


18 posted on 01/23/2012 1:26:31 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Yossarian
Heard most of it this afternoon.

I don't think Rush did quite enough to target the campaign professionals ~ they know Romney will pay more for more of them than will Newt.

Times are tough. They have few outside employment options. If this were 1933 I'd advise them to form a union and do a sit down strike.

See how that works.

(cynical giggles).

The electorate are angry. There are 26 million UNEMPLOYED and none of the insiders, and that includes the Fascist pigs who make up the current Regime, as well as Democrats who voted to bankrupt everybody with ObamaKKKare, have any ideas what to do about the situation.

All of those unemployed "independents", "democrats", "leftwingtards", "blacks", "occupy....", "union members" are probably NOT going to vote for more of the same from Obama and his running dog lackeys!

They have two choices ~ vote for the Republicans or stay home.

Then there are the families supporting those folks and keeping them in beans after their unemployment, should they have even had that, ran out. It is inconceivable that people with an unemployed adult in the home are going to vote for the Democrats.

It's HOOVER TIME, only this time, he's not the target ~ but the concept is the same.

South Carolina was a portent. Those folks are so economically disadvantaged to start with that they probably don't feel the effects of the Great Obama Recession, but they certainly understand it's better to have a guy as President who is willing to defend himself than to have another pansy. When you're down and out it really hurts to see a President bow to an Arab dictator.

19 posted on 01/23/2012 1:27:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yossarian; All
From the transcript: George Will had a fascinating statistic over the weekend. Mitt Romney -- Mr. Electability, according to the Republican establishment; Mr. The Only Guy That Can Give Us the Senate -- is 9-and-16 in his election career. He's won nine and lost 16. He's nine out of 25. That, they tell us, is Mr. Electability -- and they're sitting around, the base is, and they're saying, "We don't care about this traditional stuff that you care about that's kept you in second place all these years."

And that's 9-16 that Romney is in largely GOP votes! (And THREE states that went Romney -- one-third of those -- were heavily Mormon...Utah, Wyoming, and Nevada...25% of GOP voters in '08 in Nevada were LDS! Take those away, and Romney is 6-16!)

Try putting Romney out there in the gen election & he'd get smothered & blown out of the water!

20 posted on 01/23/2012 1:29:27 PM PST by Colofornian (If 94% of LDS repeat voting for Romney, then such RINO-voting reveals a liberal Mormon bent)
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To: Fantasywriter
Not to worry. Mitt can't feel emotions like you and I can. He has to pretend he feels them.

Our anger with the Fascist pigs like Pelosi is palpable ~ but not to Romney.

21 posted on 01/23/2012 1:31:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yossarian

The Republican Establishment has been bashing Conservatives from the get-go.

The Republican Establishment does not like Palin,Bachmann, Cain, or Perry. Instead of building up good conservative candidates, the Establishment aids and abets the media in tearing them down.

The Republican Establishment would much rather be like European Conservative Parties that are nothing more Liberal Lite Parties.

Good for Newt. It will be interesting to see how other conservative pundits analyze the situation.


22 posted on 01/23/2012 1:34:45 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Yossarian

Limbaugh or Hannity would do WHATEVER would get BOTH of them RATINGS. They are BOTH Politcal WHORES! Sorry if that SHOCKS some people but it is about time SOMEONE called an ACE an ACE and a SPADE a SPADE. I no longer trust either one of them.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 1:35:11 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: muawiyah

Oh, I completely agree w you. Mitt is a phony’s phony, and as plastic as the fruit on Carmen Miranda’s hats. My issue is w Rush giving Mitt good campaign advice. If Rush realizes that Mitt is the Establishment candidate and that the Establishment is the problem, why would he want Mitt to figure out what he’s doing wrong and correct it?


24 posted on 01/23/2012 1:38:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Yossarian

GOP = Republican Socialist Party.


25 posted on 01/23/2012 1:41:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Old Sarge

Don’t know, but they are wrong.

During the primaries Rush is a student of the game. He does not support one candidate over the other. He will express his opinion on what a candidate needs to do to win, but he spreads the advice around to all.


26 posted on 01/23/2012 1:43:45 PM PST by PjhCPA (They all suck. Rick sucks the least.)
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To: Yossarian

What “they “-...the DC Establishment/RinoCracy does NOT want is a Gingrich Presidency to have the power to do what Gingrich SAYS he will do...dismantle DC.

Which means DC HAS to have a Democrat Senate if a Gingrich Presidency occurs.

Statistically DC/RinoCracy sees a looming disaster as a Republican Senate is all but assured this fall....


27 posted on 01/23/2012 1:48:33 PM PST by mo
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To: Yossarian
The support among the Republican base for Newt is late coming, and reluctant, but it is based on the very hard fact that, for all his flaws, Newt seems to be the best choice left. Most of us agree that reelection Obama would be euthanasia for the American Dream. But the GOP Establishment doesn't understand that many view the election of Romney as hospice care for the American Dream. I'm not at all confident that Newt can cure what ails America, but he will try. And he does have a record of (1994) of pulling off big wins that the GOP Establishment never thought would happen.

There is a school of thought, among lawyers, that when preparing for a jury trial, one should begin with closing arguments. That sound backwards, but by writing the closing argument you must make to win the case, you clarify the questions you must ask, and evidence you must introduce -- or exclude -- at trial, so everything that occurs in the trial (if things go well) will insure that you get to deliver the winning closing argument you have already written.

In 1992, 1996 and 2008, the GOP nominated guys who seemed to start preparing for their campaign by writing their concession speech, and then doing what it took to make sure that they got to deliver it. I see Romney as continuing that tradition.

28 posted on 01/23/2012 1:50:03 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Fantasywriter

Mitt has a large staff. They have some smart people. Rush didn’t give away anything they don’t already know.


29 posted on 01/23/2012 1:51:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Yossarian
He's full of crap that all they want is control of the money. They want to win and just think American dumbkoffs will respond better to a "moderate". That's ridiculous, but its an honest difference of strategy.

Rush is really damaging us with this "establishment vs conservative" crap. We have to keep everyone together or we really are doomed.

30 posted on 01/23/2012 1:54:44 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Yossarian

Rush is right of course. He usually has his finger on the pulse of the Conservative Americans and not the establishment Republicans who are acting more like Democrats every day.

All Gingrich has to do now is keep attacking, attack Obama, attack the progressive media and he can not only win the nomination but take the White House and help keep this country free.


31 posted on 01/23/2012 1:58:19 PM PST by DebraAI
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To: Yossarian

Re: Republican Establishment

Can anyone list two or three of the top names in this Establishment?

You know, the people or organizations who “forced” Romney, McCain, Dole, and GHW Bush onto us poor little helpless Conservatives?

I thought Conservatives got outvoted?

And please don’t use the “Open Primaries” excuse.

Anytime the GOP or Conservatives want “Closed Primaries,” we can have them.

How?

We can pay for our own primaries.

Today, state taxpayers pay for our primaries, so we have to obey state government rules.


32 posted on 01/23/2012 2:02:42 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Yossarian

Not safe in the middle of the road ...

33 posted on 01/23/2012 2:03:12 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: Yossarian
Rush is on to the fact that Romney simply relies on "platitudes" to express his feelings about America and its founders.

That is not enough. Dr. Thomas Sowell's column, posted on another thread provides his excellent summary of South Carolina.

Isn't it reassuring that one can trust the intellect, wisdom, and understanding of Sowell to see beyond the armchair pundits and politicians to the heart of the Gingrich appeal in South Carolina?

Brit Hume's always wise-sounding, but this time shallow, "analysis" concluded that it was just the points in the "debates" and that "debating" won't carry the day in the November elections. Others, who clearly are trying to mold our minds to their wills, say it's just that Newt expresses our "anger," and that his "negatives" make him undesirable as a candidate.

Yes, the so-called "progressives" and their domination of education's failures have succeeded in "dumbing us down"--but not that far down.

We still, as South Carolinians proved, can think for ourselves, and we can "get" the difference between someone who can articulate the great ideas of America's Founders' Constitution and someone who has to rely on memorized phrases like "private sector," "hope of the earth," and verses from "America, the Beautiful," to fill in what should be thoughtul, substantive debate on how to defeat the ideology of Obama and save American liberty, in all its dimensions.

What American voters need between now and November is a clear articulation of the first principles underlying freedom for individuals in a society. If that can happen, then the ideas of Marx and other sources of redistribution and oppression will be exposed and rejected. Florida voters now may help to decide who has displayed a likely ability to accomplish that task.

South Carolinians decided already.

As Dr. Sowell indicates, it is a "make or break" decision for "the future of this country."

34 posted on 01/23/2012 2:03:18 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Fantasywriter

I also felt like Rush was playing both sides today.


35 posted on 01/23/2012 2:05:12 PM PST by KansasGirl (NO ROMNEY! NOT NOW! NOT EVER! GO NEWT!)
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To: US Navy Vet

How is Limbaugh a whore?


36 posted on 01/23/2012 2:05:26 PM PST by PjhCPA (They all suck. Rick sucks the least.)
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To: Fantasywriter
"Go ahead, Rush. Tell Mitt how to stay competitive."

He may tell Mittens the gameplan, but he will never be able to get Romney to EXECUTE the gameplan, because he's incapable.

Kind of like saying the key to winning the election is to get the most votes, or winning the big game is by getting the more points than your opponent.

37 posted on 01/23/2012 2:05:52 PM PST by cincinnati65 (We've been taken for a ride - by Wall Street and Washington DC - Welcome to Amerika!)
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To: DebraAI
All Gingrich has to do now is keep attacking, attack Obama, attack the progressive media and he can not only win the nomination but take the White House and help keep this country free.

I disagree with this strategy on two fronts:

First, he should make sure he patches some of the holes in his own boat. He should make sure he's clean on things like the Global Warming Scam, and on the role of confiscated taxpayer's money used in the housing market.

Second, he can't just attack and apologize for his misgivings: Any candidate that wants to not just win, but have a mandate to fix the problems that are killing this country MUST have a REAL AND WORKABLE PLAN to show the electorate.

This is a big part why Cain - a political neophyte - did so well. 9-9-9 wasn't perfect, but it was A PLAN!

38 posted on 01/23/2012 2:06:26 PM PST by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: Yossarian

Rightly or wrongly, fairly or unfairly, Romney is the symbol of the GOP establishment to millions of conservatives. For the first time ever the establisment’s support may actually be the kiss of death for a candidate.


39 posted on 01/23/2012 2:07:35 PM PST by DManA
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To: Fantasywriter; Yossarian
From the article, (don't want any non article readers thinking I'm quoting you):

Romney, if he has a prayer here, is gonna have to figure conservatism out. He's gonna have to able to articulate it like he believes it, loves it, and understands it

Romney will never be able to "articulate" conservatism because he doesn't "believe" it, doesn't "love" it and will never "understand" it. It is not something the phony bastard can fake.

Conservatism is a deeply held belief that every Conservative member of this forum and every Conservative member of the general public knows, loves and understand and cannot be fooled by the utterly fake Mitt Romney.

Conservative people all over the country have finally decided on the conservative (not perfect) candidate that can and will beat Romney and obama to a pulp.

When this thing started, Newt was probably about my fourth choice, after Palin, Cain and Perry but now I'm behind him 100%! I hope that every Conservative in the country arrives at the same conclusion and the sooner the better and we can all breath a collective sigh of relief. Lots of "high Fives" and back slapping all over F.R. and all over the nation.

40 posted on 01/23/2012 2:09:34 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Yossarian

Kerry was ahead of Bush in the polls all year in 2004, at least up until July, when one poll had him 7 points ahead. Not everyone can be so ignorant to think that what’s in the polls now is set in stone for the rest of the year, especially when South Carolina just swung 30 points to Newt in less than 2 weeks.

This is absolutely not about electability. As Jonah Goldberg brilliantly wrote weeks ago, the GOP establishment is afraid Newt will WIN, not that he will lose, as written in the article linked below. Frankly, I don’t fully understand why. But I know the electability argument for Romney is bogus, because experienced politicians are not so ignorant as to think polls are set in stone this early in an election.

Newtzilla to the Rescue

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/285680/newtzilla-rescue-jonah-goldberg


41 posted on 01/23/2012 2:13:10 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: KansasGirl

I don’t believe Rush is with the elite. He’s too rich and too powerful in his own right to care about what the elite think about anything. If anything the elites are inferior to him. If his views align with theirs it is purely coincidental.


42 posted on 01/23/2012 2:13:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: Yossarian

Newt’s plan, the 21st Century Contract with America, is on Newt.org. The WSJ said his tax plan was bold while Romney’s was timid.


43 posted on 01/23/2012 2:20:14 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Graybeard58

Supposedly Michael Savage said on his show that a member of the media spoke to him and quoted Romney as saying that he “hates conservatives.”

The best quality of Romney for us is that he’s not a very good liar. His contempt for the likes of Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich is barely concealed.


44 posted on 01/23/2012 2:23:48 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Graybeard58

When this thing started, Newt was probably about my fourth choice, after Palin, Cain and Perry


My sentiments as well. The above three names and Bachman were true conservatives that the GOP establishment did not want to help. The GOP Establishment would rather keep their moderate power base and not make waves. The GOP Establishment could care less if Obama wins re-election. In fact the GOP Establishment wants Obama to really screw up the country 2012-2016 so that in 2017 a GOP Dogcatcher could take office.


45 posted on 01/23/2012 2:25:56 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: muawiyah; cincinnati65; Graybeard58; KansasGirl

It’s not so much about Rush giving anything away, or about Mitt being able to execute the plan. It’s why is Rush giving Mitt the best possible advice to begin with? It comes back to this: if the Establishment is the problem, why do *anything* to encourage the Establishment candidate?

KG, I felt that way for a long time. One thing I only learned recently is that, if the latest Arbitron numbers are to be believed, Rush’s audience has fallen off steeply. I wonder if it has anything to do w people thinking this election is too important *not* to take a stand against Establishment types, such as Romney?


46 posted on 01/23/2012 2:26:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: JediJones
Newt’s plan, the 21st Century Contract with America, is on Newt.org.

I think he's gotta start selling it like Cain did with "9-9-9". And by that I mean out of his mouth, not gathering dust on the website.

47 posted on 01/23/2012 2:42:24 PM PST by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: PjhCPA

-——He does not support one candidate over the other——

You are correct in that he must appear neutral during primary season.

However, back in the olddays, before Free Republic, there was a revolution and the Republicans ended 40 years of Democrat rule. Newt was at the forefront. There was a new crop of piss and vinegar Republicans with Newt as their leader.

Rush was their mascot. Rush was invited to give the keynote welcoming address to the freshmen. His ties to Newt are old and deep

I have no doubt that Newt is the one he favors most


48 posted on 01/23/2012 2:43:01 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: olezip
[The solution is simple. The Republican establishment just has to switch places with the Tea Party. Let the leaders of the Tea Party take over the reins of the Republican establishment. Then we will see very positive results for all of us and, better still, for the entire country!

Surely the Republican establishment will better see what is going on if they have to rebuild their base. For now, they should resign in disgrace and let the genuine leaders of the people take over. The Republican establishment knows that they are not leading, so they should get out of the way!]

The establishment is not just going to bow down and get out of the way. However, the base can take over. Conservatives and Tea Party types can pay $10.00 to get on the ballot to run as precinct chairman. Once elected they get to vote for the leadership of the party.

Last election, 50% of the precinct chairs didn't even have anyone sign up. If the base really wants a seat at the table, this is what you have to do in every single county precinct in the country.

49 posted on 01/23/2012 2:51:03 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Old Sarge
Several websites and news broadcasts here in FLA are portraying Rush as being anti-Newt and pro-Willard. What’s up with this?

You, the websites and news programs in FL, or anywhere else need to stop speculating that Rush is endorsing Romney. Rush is endorsing no one during the primaries. That means he is not endorsing Gingrich, Romney, Santorum or Paul

Do you need someone to tell you who to vote for?

50 posted on 01/23/2012 2:55:04 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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