Skip to comments.Romney: U.S. economy ‘getting better’ under Obama
Posted on 01/23/2012 2:20:24 PM PST by Qbert
House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) appeared on Fox News Sunday yesterday and argued that President Obamas policies have actually made our economy worse. Then he said it again. And again. All told, the House Republican repeated the claim five times in one interview (and in each instance, host Chris Wallace offered no pushback whatsoever).
For those who care about reality, Boehners claim isnt true. Since the president took office, every aspect of the American economy job creation, economic growth, manufacturing, the stock market, etc. has improved considerably. Repeating a lie five times doesnt make it true.
But what I find especially important about this is the extent to which Mitt Romney, the likely Republican presidential nominee, disagrees with Boehner.
Consider this remarkable exchange between Romney and conservative radio-host Laura Ingraham late last week: (thanks to F.B. for the tip)
INGRAHAM: Youve also noted that there are signs of improvement on the horizon in the economy. How do you answer the presidents argument that the economy is getting better in a general election campaign if you yourself are saying its getting better?
ROMNEY: Well, of course its getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession, there is always a recovery. [ ]
INGRAHAM: Isnt it a hard argument to make if youre saying, like, OK, he inherited this recession, he took a bunch of steps to try to turn the economy around, and now, were seeing more jobs, but vote against him anyway? Isnt that a hard argument to make? Is that a stark enough contrast?
ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? It just happens to be the truth.
I dont think its an exaggeration to say this may be the most important statement Romney has made since launching his 2012 presidential campaign. Think about it: the likely GOP nominee argued, on the air and on the record, that the economy is getting better under President Obama, and it happens to be the truth that Obama took steps to turn the economy around, resulting in more jobs for American workers.
If Laura Ingraham had asked a Democratic ally of the president the same question, she likely would have heard a similar answer.
Whats more, as I noted over a week ago, Romney keeps saying this. He told voters in South Carolina and New Hampshire that under Obama, the economy is getting better.
Romneys message, of course, comes with a catch: he believes the economy is improving, but he doesnt want the president to get credit for it. But as Ingraham noticed, thats an argument that will fail miserably.
A month into 2012, the Republican is effectively arguing, Sure, Obama inherited a deep recession. And sure, he took a bunch of steps to turn the economy around. And sure, were now seeing more jobs being created and more economic growth. But vote against him anyway.
This isnt just a tough sell; its an impossible one.
Every single debate answer:
“I agree with President Obama, but...”
Another reason not to support Romney.
What Mitt means is...Obama’s people are doing a better job at doctoring the numbers. Real unemployment is around seventeen percent.
As America does worse, Romney and Bain do better.
That’s exactly what I was going to say. Wait until gas is $5/gallon and we’ll see how good people think Obama’s economy is.
It IS getting a little better, but it is also an extraordinarily weak recovery in the face of headwinds, a good number of which are inflicted by Obama’s regulations. I would have hoped that Presidential candidate Romney could give a fuller answer.
Well, no QE3 for you, then, Barak.
“It's difficult to completely kill the US economy although Obama is giving his all. ObamaCare is a job and economic growth killer. Obama day to day tax policy is an economic growth killer. Obama’s late budgets are economic and job killers. Obama’s energy policy is an economic growth killer. And his Keystone decision is a job killer.”
Romney, get with it. Sheesh!
“It's difficult to completely kill the US economy although Obama is giving it his all. ObamaCare is a job and economic growth killer. Obama day to day tax policy is an economic growth killer. Obama’s late budgets are economic and job killers. Obama’s energy policy is an economic growth killer. And his Keystone decision is a job killer.”
Romney, get with it. Sheesh!
It seems that the “Washington Monthly” has the “Bravo” flag flying! Crude yes but true.
That's just completely unacceptable for anyone with half a brain.
Romney is talking out of both sides now. I wonder if Rush will take him to task like he did with Newt.
The economy is not recovering. It’s a dead cat bounce. The real unemployment rate is continually hidden, the real estate market remains in the dumps, and gas prices still remain far too high. If Romney isn’t capable of articulating the reasons why Obama needs to go, then he will be a disaster as nominee. That is the real contrast between Romney and Gingrich that voters are viewing in the debates. They don’t want another “I’ll reach across the aisle” candidate like McCain.
I don’t think it is getting better. I think we’re learning how to live with it. We’re getting used to a bad economy.
Do the higher employment numbers of last month exclude seasonal employment? I don’t know. But I do know that if the company that just bought the plant where I work decides to lay me off, I have very few employment opportunities in my field of work.
The economy has recovered. However, it is in spite of Obama (who has ushered in significant roadblocks in regulations, et al), not because of him.
The first thing we have to do is be honest.
While the overall economy has gotten better (though modestly) the financial condition of our country has gotten much worse... $4.5T in new debt, no budget since Obama was sworn in, worsening credit rating... et al.
"It IS getting a little better, but it is also an extraordinarily weak recovery in the face of headwinds, a good number of which are inflicted by Obamas regulations."
In any number or piece of data that they point to to say that the economy is supposedly improving in the temporary, you can just as easily point to 5-10 other things that show that it is getting demonstrably worse- especially in the long-term.
Even the supposed "great" drop in the unemployment rate... caused by no longer counting 315,000 people.
Below is the actual quote before it was trimmed fror effect:
ROMNEY: “Have you got a better one, Laura? [laughter] It just happens to be the truth.... at some point it’s going to get better, but I don’t think President Obama’s helping it.”
Newt has picked the real fight... at his victory speech in SC on Saturday, he spoke of the two America’s, the one in which we all know and believe in and the one that Obama is trying to create... in the image of socialism by way of Saul Alinsky. If you only argue economy, you may wind up supporting an economy that eventually begins to work, but under the auspices socialism.
South Carolina, with 10% unemployment and an active target for anti-business gov’t interference, felt otherwise.
Here in the bay area the cost of living has increased 18% in the past three years. My spouse and I are paid less than we were three years ago. In all, our spending power is in a deficit. But neither of us are represented in the unemployment numbers.
“”Romney = Obama-lite Obama!””
This is really pathetic. What planet does this guy live on? It is so painfully obvious that he is the WRONG guy for the job right now...amazing that the Republic establishment doesn’t get it. We are so far ahead of them it’s astounding. Guess that’s what happens when you only talk to your beltway buddies...like an echo chamber.
Romney walked right into it. Don’t EVER let him loose alone in a two-holer outdoor toilet. Because we already know what will happen.
"Below is the actual quote before it was trimmed fror effect:
ROMNEY: Have you got a better one, Laura? [laughter] It just happens to be the truth.... at some point its going to get better, but I dont think President Obamas helping it.
Thanks- it looks like some selective editing on leftist Steve Benen's part. Nonetheless, as the article you link to mentioned, it still is a very weak argument on Romney's part- in an area that is supposed to be his forte. (And on top of it, I wouldn't put it past the Dems using it out of context in ads if he's the nominee, and justify it by saying that he took Obama "out of context" in his ad a few months ago)
I can just see this in round the clock Obama ads and ads thanking Romney for helping design Obamacare. This guy is a terrible candidate.
I showed this to someone and he accused this left wing blogger of making it up. Does anyone remember hearing this interview? Or have a link to the transcript?
I’d vote for you. You have the sense to know how to frame the argument. Romney - not so much!!
McLame: “ Nothing to fear about Obama.”
Mitt: “Obama’s economy is getting better.”
Way to fight, boys!! Better stock up on Viagra!!
We are the resistance!!
Rebellion is on!!
Join or die!!
Don’t tread on me!!
And their are people here that are STILL confused on the idea of needing to beat this guy???????
Romney does not understand the economy.
He has never been a businessman.
He has always been a corporate raider.
I agree 100 percent. There are more comprehensive answers to Laura's question from FReepers on this post.
Here is a clip of the unedited interview. Doesn’t sound quit so bad when you listen to it:
I guess this pompous assshat hasn’t bought gas or been grocery shopping in the last three years.
When does the clown drive the tank and go pheasant hunting?
And according to the system clock in here, I'm replying to yours before you posted it !
This link goes right to the interview without have to listen to Rachel Maddow and it is shorter.
"I showed this to someone and he accused this left wing blogger of making it up. Does anyone remember hearing this interview? Or have a link to the transcript?"
See comment 20- it appears that the left-wing blogger chopped off the last part in the interview where Romney added that he "didn't think Obama was helping". Still- if this is the best Romney can come up with, this is pretty pathetic.
If it’s getting better, then why should we vote for ya, Guvnor, the change might just screw the wonderful Obama economy up.
Tinfoil for everyone!!!!!!!
No mitt No way!!!!
“And sure, were now seeing more jobs being created and more economic growth.”
Sooo... I guess I can put my house on the market and get the same 750K for it as I could have gotten pre-obama?
Luckily, Zero's 'all' isn't very much.
....exactly which galaxy does this east coast twit inhabit?
Or has he just got his head jammed up his bum so far that he can’t even detect daylight anymore?
I live and work in South central Montana, which we’ve been told is really, truly recession-proof and livin’ high, mostly because of all the energy development (Bakken Field is 300 miles east, “our” piece of Keystone is just a tad bit closer).
The company I work for is the last one remaining out of five that were here in ‘08, our job schedule beyond the first of April (normally our busy time) was real skimpy BEFORE The 0 started dithering around with Keystone, and went to absolutely jack-point-zip-diddly-sh** nothing as soon as the Great Proclamation last week.
My best guess right now is that I’ll be out of a job when the company finally folds up just about time to send in my taxes.
Maybe I should have everybody here send our tax bills to the Washington Weekly to pay, since they’ve got such a hot deal going. \sarc
The contrast between Romney and Newt could not be more stark. Go Newt!
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