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California Bans Open Carry Guns.. Now Ban on Rifles Too?
CBS47 ^ | 1-23-12 | cakid1

Posted on 01/23/2012 9:34:05 PM PST by cakid1

Its called the open carry law, and its now the law in California - when it comes to handguns.

Governor Jerry Brown signed the bill into law that bans 'unloaded handguns in public.' It went on the books on earlier this month. (January 1st.)

With the new law, California residents can no longer carry an unloaded handgun in public.

Now, Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Portantino wants to expand that ban to rifles.

Portantino says he wants another law because some California residents are now showing up in public with unloaded shotguns and rifles.

So, he wants another law...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; communism; domocrats; govtabuse; gunban; guncontrol; liberalfascism; liberals; portantino; progressives; socialistdemocrats; tyranny
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1 posted on 01/23/2012 9:34:08 PM PST by cakid1
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To: cakid1
What's an unloaded gun?


Something to chuck at superman?

2 posted on 01/23/2012 9:39:24 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: cakid1

Democrat - Communist Portatino just wants to flex his muscles to show his California minions just who’s boss.


3 posted on 01/23/2012 9:41:15 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's War on Prosperity is killing me)
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To: cakid1

Next up, knives! And then, rolling pins!

Then, everybody must keep their hands in their pockets in public. And don’t walk fast, that’s dangerous!


4 posted on 01/23/2012 9:41:43 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: cakid1

It’s ok officer ... all these are loaded. This one too.


5 posted on 01/23/2012 9:42:50 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: cakid1
With the new law, California residents can no longer carry an unloaded handgun in public.

No unloaded handguns, you say?

I'm sorry, officer, I had no idea. I only have one bullet with me; if I promise to chamber it, will you let me off with just a warning?

6 posted on 01/23/2012 9:42:54 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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7 posted on 01/23/2012 9:43:19 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: coloradan

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8 posted on 01/23/2012 9:43:46 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: cakid1

9 posted on 01/23/2012 9:44:11 PM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: cakid1

Must have permit to conceal carry.

Can no longer conceal carry.

Open carry of pistols must be unloaded.

No open carry of pistols.

No open carry of long guns.

Amongst all of that... Various types of guns made illegal for entirely arbitrary and capricious reasons.

Do I need to paint the picture any further? Californians... You are now past your “tipping point”. The line has been crossed.

Do you now draw another line even further back? Or do you finally take a stand?


10 posted on 01/23/2012 9:48:32 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Zeppelin
I'm sorry, officer, I had no idea. I only have one bullet with me; if I promise to chamber it, will you let me off with just a warning?

How do you chamber a bullet?


11 posted on 01/23/2012 9:48:32 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: cakid1

Darn it, these unloaded-gun protesters have gotta have it shoved down their throats! /fornicalia


12 posted on 01/23/2012 9:50:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: cakid1
always one more *law*...

sooner or later, half the population, or maybe even just 3% are going to head to the hallowed halls with more than unloaded weapons...

13 posted on 01/23/2012 9:50:28 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Cobra64

Some people also call the shell-and-bullet assembly a bullet. That’s what Barney Fife would have carried in his pocket.


14 posted on 01/23/2012 9:51:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: cakid1

Well, you don’t want folks wiggin out.

It not like a kitchen knife or a 5,000 lb car full of gasoline going 70 MPH down the highway.

Unloaded rifles are DANGEROUS!


15 posted on 01/23/2012 9:53:23 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cakid1

Law abiding, conservative and vote? Wanna carry? Come on down to TEXAS. Stay outta the big cities, Austin especially. Texas TEA party army, sounds pretty good doesn’t it?


16 posted on 01/23/2012 9:56:38 PM PST by FishinTX (kill terrorists, protect the border, punch hippies)
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To: cakid1; mrreaganaut

‘unloaded handguns in public.’

- - - -
Which makes gun shows illegal on a technicality.

Another day, another reason I am glad we got the hell out of California and moved to America.


17 posted on 01/23/2012 10:08:22 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: cakid1
I wonder if this includes a ban on carrying while walking along a county road on my own property for purposes of self-defense against wild boar, mountain lions, and coyotes.
18 posted on 01/23/2012 10:14:00 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing popular indenture since 1832.)
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To: reaganaut
Another day, another reason I am glad we got the hell out of California and moved to America.

Same here. Hated like hell to leave my beloved birthplace, but the place I grew up in, no longer exists.



19 posted on 01/23/2012 10:17:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Some people also call the shell-and-bullet assembly a bullet.

They're wrong, and most likely call pistol magazines "clips" too.

20 posted on 01/23/2012 10:21:04 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64

Not according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary online.


21 posted on 01/23/2012 10:27:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Cobra64

Simple...stick it in the chamber, release the slide. Sure, it’ll wobble around in there, but it’s chambered.

Smarty. I too used to be a terminology nazi. =P

(Hey, at least I didn’t say “put a bullet in the clip.”


22 posted on 01/23/2012 10:28:06 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: cakid1

Last one out of California turn off the lights.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 10:31:32 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: Windflier

Exactly, the California my husband and I grew up in or the one his parents grew up in just does not exist anymore. It was hard to leave at first, but now I just dread having to go out there twice a year to drop off my mother in the fall and pick her up in the spring.


24 posted on 01/23/2012 10:34:04 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: Windflier

Awesome graphic! I feel the same way having moved from MA to AZ. What if every conservative up and left the left coast bound for Texas? :) The housing problem in TX would be solved and the liberal paradise would degrade into a full blown circus with no paying customers. Concede the left to the left, and rebuild the rest. But then there’s that damn northeast. Walls ... TALL walls.


25 posted on 01/23/2012 11:09:44 PM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable, Break Wind for the TSA, Flush Twice in 2012, Can a Newt really command an army?)
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To: reaganaut
It was hard to leave at first, but now I just dread having to go out there twice a year...

Weird, huh?

I went back home for my dad's 80th birthday in April of 2010, and was there for four days. When the sun went down on day one, I was already itching to go home to Texas. By the afternoon of day four, I thought I'd die before I got to the airport. I was that uncomfortable.

Perhaps I'd feel different if I could visit somewhere in the country out there, but I don't know anyone outside the big cities. I think I'd have to make a trip to Yosemite or something. I might enjoy that.

26 posted on 01/23/2012 11:10:11 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cakid1

Pitchforks and torches next....


27 posted on 01/23/2012 11:12:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: ri4dc
What if every conservative up and left the left coast bound for Texas? :)

They're welcome in Texas, one and all! We've always got room for more Americans here.

The way things are going on the left coast, they really are going to run all the good Americans off to other states. Like you said, that'll be the end of all their paying customers, too.

Perhaps that's what needs to happen out there. Like a crack addict, they need to hit rock bottom before they can see that they're killing themselves.

28 posted on 01/23/2012 11:16:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I always like to use the California gun laws as a point when folks get too carried away in calling someone a “RINO” when it comes down to a few votes or decisions. We will never find the PERFECT conservative. Even Reagan wasn’t perfect.


29 posted on 01/23/2012 11:22:43 PM PST by 21twelve
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Proud to say I left California in 1988 when I was 20 years old, and never returned!!!


30 posted on 01/24/2012 1:05:55 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: ponygirl
Last one out of California turn off the lights.

Not yet. The Constitution guarantees to the citizens of every State a republican form of government, and it also guarantees certain rights that are bound to the States.

The Second Amendment is self-binding, and is further bound to California and its constitution and laws (despite the absence of a mention of the right in California's excuse for a constitution) by the operation of the 14th Amendment as well.

California and this Colantino guy and Governor Moonbeam are about to get schooled, really soon, just as soon as they sent a band of CHiPs to a gun show to arrest everybody there under color of the new law. That case will get prorogated by the Supremes: they just showed themselves, in a Texas redistricting bagatelle, in no mood to fool with these penumbrators and Sovietizers any longer.

31 posted on 01/24/2012 3:21:11 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Windflier
The way things are going on the left coast, they really are going to run all the good Americans off to other states.

No, the "good Americans" are going to rip their cods off and stuff them down their metro-pansified throats.

In open court, of course.

Just to guarantee an audience.

32 posted on 01/24/2012 3:30:57 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Dead Corpse; VeniVidiVici; Jim Robinson
Californians... You are now past your “tipping point”. The line has been crossed.

There are powerful remedies for this garbage that strike directly at the heart of the Democratic Party.

The Second Amendment is self-binding to California by its own terms, and in addition is further bound to California (and its government) by the 14th Amendment.

Re-read the 14th: Any State found guilty of depriving its Citizens of their rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and Bill of Rights is subject to having its delegation to the United States House of Representatives reduced in the same proportion as that of its Citizens whose rights have been denied.

And who is the judge of whether California has transgressed its obligations under the 14th Amendment, and of the remedy?

The House itself. Meaning, the Republican caucus of the House of Representatives, led by Speaker Boehner.

If California has just stripped 100% of its Citizens of an important right, then the House can refuse to seat the entire California delegation and send them all home.

Think about it. Re-read the 14th and see if the power isn't there. It is.

33 posted on 01/24/2012 3:39:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

An unloaded open carry gun is primarily making a statement, therefore it is speech and protected by the First Amendment. A gun that is unloaded provides no ability to shoot a tyrant, even if it makes a tyrant uncomfortable. Banning gun displays is not improving public safety, it is banning the statement of freedom it makes. This is a slam dunk case for the Supreme Court.


34 posted on 01/24/2012 3:40:31 AM PST by Reeses
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To: cakid1

Disarm the citizens the mexicans are coming


35 posted on 01/24/2012 3:41:35 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Why not just keep the chamber empty in a semi-auto? That’s not unloaded, it’s a handgun, and so it should be ok. Right?


36 posted on 01/24/2012 4:30:29 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Cobra64

I think they’re supposed to have cartriges and priming cups on the other side. Or are those illegal now?


37 posted on 01/24/2012 4:32:51 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Windflier

Same reason I left America soon after Obama was sworn in.


38 posted on 01/24/2012 4:34:54 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Oh thanks, you left us with the liberal Jews. Keep your head down over there and your guns well cleaned.


39 posted on 01/24/2012 4:38:53 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: bmwcyle

Don’t worry. As increasing numbers of them get mugged, they’ll turn conservative and notice they can’t even carry the handgun they just bought unloaded, and start freeping.


40 posted on 01/24/2012 4:43:37 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Whoa! I like the way you think. But the chance that Boehner would do anything so dramatic to force the issue to national attention is infinitesimally small.


41 posted on 01/24/2012 4:52:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Reeses
This is a slam dunk case for the Supreme Court.

True, but the penalty imposed by the House (see my post #33) would be absolutely devastating politically -- and Pres. Obama would be obliged to fight it, it would put him and his friends' gun-grabbing, anti-freedom agenda squarely on Center Stage in an election year. It would force every 'Rat in the country to defend an issue on which they are hugely out-of-step with the country.

If he didn't mind his P's and Q's, Obama could end up being impeached -- in an election year -- forcing his Senate allies to defend him, in the midst of his Gunwalker scandal and California's epic constitutional punishment and a national election campaign. No telling how many Senate Democrats would lose their seats in such a shellacking.

And they might just roll over and convict him, removing him from office so they could put up Hillary to defend the Party instead of the Chicago Boys (small irony: she's from Chicagoland, too).

42 posted on 01/24/2012 4:57:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: FreedomPoster
But the chance that Boehner would do anything so dramatic to force the issue to national attention is infinitesimally small.

Boehner could lose his Speakership, trying to slam the brakes on the entire conservative wing of the Party, when the Main Enemy and a huge potential prize is clearly in view. He'd have to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

43 posted on 01/24/2012 4:59:53 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Guess the Kalifornifactions never read the 2nd Amendment that says something about the right to keep and bare arms, etc. Must be in a different country than America.


44 posted on 01/24/2012 5:11:42 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov
Yes, well, the 2nd is bound to California, so if they try to deny the right to their citizens, then the 14th provides a powerful corrective.

Oh, and as long as they didn't change their laws abrogating the right ..... their House delegation would be locked out, depriving the 'Rats of dozens of CaliforniaRats' votes.

45 posted on 01/24/2012 5:21:53 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: cakid1

If I were these guys, I would want the public disarmed too.


46 posted on 01/24/2012 5:27:01 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: 21twelve

What does your post have to do with what I posted? My point was that the line has been crossed and any Californian that isn’t currently loading up their magazines, packing their gear, sharpening their pitchforks, and lighting their torches should just accept the fact that they are now serfs. No longer free. They have completely abandoned their liberties and refuse to protect their Rights.

Period.

Full stop.

9th Circuit remedy? Voting your legislators out?

Your peaceful means of redress are OVER.


47 posted on 01/24/2012 5:50:58 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Do you honestly think the Weeping Willow of the GOP will have the stones to not seat the California delegation?

You are dreaming.


48 posted on 01/24/2012 5:51:56 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: 21twelve

all gun grabbers are RINO’s or ‘progressives’.


49 posted on 01/24/2012 6:08:09 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: cakid1

Why doesn’t California make it official and ban breathing? They’ve been a bloody testcase for just about every breed of insanity known to man, so quite beating around the bush and just openly say it, screwballs.


50 posted on 01/24/2012 6:14:30 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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