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Defkalion offers testing of cold fusion reactors
Ny Teknik ^ | Jan 23 2012 | Mats Lewan

Posted on 01/24/2012 6:53:19 PM PST by Kevmo

The Greek company Defkalion has invited scientific and business organizations to test the core technology in its forthcoming energy products. The products are based on LENR – Low Energy Nuclear Reactions.


In a press release on January 23, Defkalion has invited "internationally recognized and reputable scientific and business organizations" from now and two months ahead, to do independent testing with their own instruments on the reactors used in the Defkalion's forthcoming energy device, "Hyperion" .

The apparatus is according to Defkalion based on "Chemically Assisted Low Energy Nuclear Reactions caused by Nickel and Hydrogen Nuclei", a technology supposedly developed by the company after the termination of the agreement on production and distribution of Andrea Rossi's "E-cat" last summer .

Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, or LENR, is the term used in recent years instead of the more controversial "cold fusion", a new type of nuclear reactions that there is still little knowledge about.
Measurements will be made on the "bare" reactor without cooling, and according to Defkalion temperatures above 650°C will be reached, and also a power development that is far more than 20 times the input electrical power required to start the reaction (COP) .

Defkalion describes a test method known as "Differential thermal analysis". The intention is to measure the difference between power development in a reactor loaded with fuel and one that is empty and only heated by the resistor needed to start the reaction, and then repeat the measurement after the reactors have been switched .

The description in the press release, however, is scant and partly incorrect .

In addition to power measurement, alpha and gamma radiation will be measured, and the reactors will be weighed, measured, and also opened .

Test protocols will be published before tests and the results may be published freely by invited evaluators .

Defkalion maintains that independent testing of the finished Hyperion products, which were presented in November 2011, will be made in the beginning of this year after certification of the products. Final products are supposed to be ready for market in 2012 .

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: cmns; coldfusion; ecat; lenr
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1 posted on 01/24/2012 6:53:28 PM PST by Kevmo
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2 posted on 01/24/2012 6:54:44 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Kevmo
Here is their press release



http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-01-23_Independent_Testing_on_Hyperion_Reactors.pdf


1 | P a g e
Independent Testing on Hyperion Reactors
Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies Global Ltd. (PDGT) is ready to further allow third parties to evaluate its core technology: a multi stage LENR reaction between Nickel and Hydrogen.

PDGT has successfully completed its scientific, technological and engineering steps necessary to sustain such a reaction with results exceeding a COP of 20 and with temperatures capable to exceed 650 degrees Celsius.

As it was announced in our November 30th Press Release, a series of third party tests on Hyperion products have been scheduled to be performed within the first months of 2012, immediately after our product’s certification. This announcement does not refer to such product tests.

Independent tests have already been scheduled. With this announcement, PDGT welcomes further requests from internationally recognized and reputable scientific and business organizations interested to conduct their independent tests on “bare” Hyperion Reactors.

Tests will be conducted following mutually agreed protocols based on the general principles herein.

Test Objectives
Measurement of excess heat produced by reactions within Hyperion reactors
Measurement of “bare” Hyperion Reactor COP (i.e. total energy consumed versus energy produced)
Measurement of radioactivity during testing
Measurement of reactor’s stability using its control mechanisms

Type of Testing
Parallel run of two identical Hyperion Reactors connected in parallel to the same electric energy sources for pre-heating and the same Hydrogen input source.

The active Reactor #1 will be equipped and prepared ready to trigger and sustain a steady reaction. 2 | P a g e
The Reactor #2 will be empty of any powders and with all triggering and control mechanisms deactivated.

Following a parallel test run of both Reactors for at least 48 hours, the two Reactors will be switched for a second run (Reactor #1 empty and Reactor #2 active) in order to authenticate the same results.

Configuration & Measurements
Both Reactors are of the same configuration, placed in the same room with a 50-60cm distance from each other.

Both reactors will be identically isolated.

Calibrated thermocouples of the same type will be connected inside each Reactor chamber and attached in the outer surface of each reactor. All four thermocouples will report their measurements to the same data logger and PC logging software.

The pressure of the Hydrogen circuit will be monitored and logged with the same sample rate as the thermocouples logging (i.e. 1/sec).

All electric consuming devises attached to the Reactors will be measured and logged (Volt and Amps). All electric supplies to the reactors will be through a UPS unit to avoid grid problems and any possible fluctuations.

Monitoring of any type of radioactivity from the tested Reactors will be performed following a 24hours measurement of the testing environment, to be used as base measurement.

Cooling Method
Cold air may be blown to both Reactors through their isolation if the maximum safety temperature level as defined in the test protocol is reached in the active Reactor. 3 | P a g e
Measurement Methodologies
1. On Heat Energy and COP
Differential Thermal Analysis:
Following the test run, the Temperature/Time logged plots of inner and outer thermocouples will be used to calculate:
The difference of integrals between the Temperature/Time logged plots of inner thermocouple measurements of the two Reactors. This results to the calculation of the absolute excess heat energy produced by the active Reactor.

The difference of integrals between the logged plots of each pair of inner and outer attached thermocouples attached to each Reactor.

The difference of the respective energy of the absolute excess heat energy produced by the active Reactor versus the total electric energy consumed by the active Reactor (heater and controls). This results in the COP of the active Reactor.

Reactors will be weighed before and after testing.


2. On Radiation
A Muller-Geiger tube, calibrated to the environment base radiation level, will be used to measure alpha and gamma emissions from the active Reactor.

3. On Stability
The active Reactor’s thermocouples measured temperatures, both inner and on outer surface, will be maintained stable with a fluctuation of no more than +/- 10% during the whole testing period, as observed after the triggering of the reaction in the active Reactor.

4. Other Measurements
No other measurements (e.g. calorimetry), will be performed during such “bare” Reactor testing.

The existing already released specifications of Hyperion products relating to system performance, stability, safety and functionality will not be tested during this series if tests. 4 | P a g e
Reactor’s Performance
It is expected that tests will conclude a COP in excess of 20
Publication of Protocols and Results
The detailed test protocols will be published by PGDT before any third party test is performed.

Test results may be published by the independent evaluators in the media they choose and in our site, jointly.

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Following the above, PDGT remains committed to its vision as a pioneer in LENR technology. Hyperion products can be used as a cheap, clean and green energy source for households and industrial applications.

PDGT remains committed to the world at large, providing its technology with responsibility and diligence.

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Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies Global Ltd.

January 23rd 2012





3 posted on 01/24/2012 7:02:21 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Kevmo
Finally, some tests. I would have done it different but having a working and a non-working reactor running from the same source and electronics aught to be interesting.

4. Other Measurements No other measurements (e.g. calorimetry), will be performed during such “bare” Reactor testing.

This is a concern though.

Defkalion's press release

When is the test?

4 posted on 01/24/2012 7:41:08 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Kevmo

I thought this has been decided to always be a folly. I am no nuclear scientiest but in the 1980’s someone rolled out this discovery only to be proved again a folly. It sounds so promising like Co2 reduction mechanisms


5 posted on 01/24/2012 7:48:54 PM PST by frank46
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To: frank46
I thought this has been decided to always be a folly. I am no nuclear scientiest but in the 1980’s someone rolled out this discovery only to be proved again a folly. It sounds so promising like Co2 reduction mechanisms

I was skeptical and derisive when I first saw articles and press releases about the E-Cat a couple of years ago. It didn't help matters that the people pushing it looked and sounded like dozens of other "free energy" scams I've seen on the internet.

I'm still skeptical, but I now think that they are not con artists and they are observing "something". Their willingness to push forward with working prototypes, development of marketable products and "some" independent testing is encouraging. They claim that mainstream gov't and academic researches are biased against them.

There have been rumors and some claims of proof that the independent facilities that tested the claims of cold-fusion back in the 80's modified the experiment protocols and doomed the tests to failure. The "scientific consensus" was that the testing proved that there was nothing to it, just some bumbling physics professors at a couple of Podunk Universities who didn't design appropriate experiments and then jumped to erroneous conclusions.

I never would have believed it possible...until I witnessed the global warming scam in action. Like I said, I'm holding on to my skepticism, but I'm pullin' for the guy.

How does an E-Cat work?

6 posted on 01/24/2012 8:38:00 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Kevmo

Measurement of “bare” Hyperion Reactor COP (i.e. total energy consumed versus energy produced)

Got to plug it in or does it run on batteries? Not a self sustaining reactor?

Total energy consumed versus USEFUL/USABLE energy produced.


7 posted on 01/24/2012 8:45:03 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Kevmo

Please add me to the ping list. Thanks.


8 posted on 01/24/2012 8:45:22 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Kevmo
The description in the press release, however, is scant and partly incorrect.

That's OK. Who really needs precision from a company promising nuclear fusion devices?

9 posted on 01/24/2012 9:30:27 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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10 posted on 01/24/2012 9:38:03 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: frank46
"I thought this has been decided to always be a folly. I am no nuclear scientiest but in the 1980’s someone rolled out this discovery only to be proved again a folly. It sounds so promising like Co2 reduction mechanisms"

That's what the folks who have worked so hard to suppress cold fusion want you to think. In point of fact, the CF phenomenon is very real, and highly reputable scientists have replicated the Pons and Fleischmann results, one such replication having done within a few months of the P&F results. When the final story is written, that suppression will likely prove to be one of the biggest scandals in science history.

11 posted on 01/25/2012 3:41:09 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: RetiredTexasVet
"Total energy consumed versus USEFUL/USABLE energy produced."

1:20 (energy in:energy out). As further progress is made in understanding and tuning the process and the hardware, that will probably increase.

Think of the reactor as like your car engine....it needs a large amount of input power to start up, and then a continuous trickle of power to keep going. It is also mode similar to a Diesel....still needs a large amount of input power to start up, but no further power to keep going.....but is "more cantankerous" than the engine WITH the continuous trickle. But in both cases, the output power is gigantic compared to the "input" power.

12 posted on 01/25/2012 3:47:05 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: frank46

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Cold-fusion

has a reasonably balanced discussion. There is quite a bit of evidence of suppression using the same tactics as the promulgators of “global warming” use to suppress countering views....denial of funding, denial of tenure, accusations of fraud (both public and in academic “witch hunts”), loss of career, termination (if possible)


13 posted on 01/25/2012 5:17:38 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog; frank46
the CF phenomenon is very real

Right. It's a phenomenon and anomaly. The energy produced, if any, is unpredictable, which is why any claim of having a commercially viable energy producing product is rubbish.

14 posted on 01/25/2012 5:41:52 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
There is quite a bit of evidence of suppression using the same tactics as the promulgators of “global warming” use to suppress countering views....denial of funding, denial of tenure, accusations of fraud (both public and in academic “witch hunts”), loss of career, termination (if possible)

Teenagers have accomplished fusion with deuterium gas plasmas. There is no suppression of the results. The difference is they aren't trying to scam people by saying it produces more energy than it consumes.

15 posted on 01/25/2012 5:45:53 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
"The energy produced, if any, is unpredictable, which is why any claim of having a commercially viable energy producing product is rubbish."

Have you read the proceedings from ICCF15 yet?? Or ANY paper from LENR-CANR.org?? If not, you're still ignorant. Probably willfully.

16 posted on 01/25/2012 7:07:34 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Moonman62
"Teenagers have accomplished fusion with deuterium gas plasmas. There is no suppression of the results."

Of course not. It fits the accepted "hot fusion" paradigm. Have you studied the stories of Bockris, Hagelstein, Taleyarkhan yet?? Lots of evidence for suppression. But, you just can't be bothered to actually look at the facts.

17 posted on 01/25/2012 7:07:54 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Have you seen the scheduled date of the test?

This doesn't prove or disprove Rossi if it succeeds or fails. I hope people realize that. Rossi said he misled them and Defkalion said they found the catalyst on their own and from what I've seen of Defkalions Hyperion, it is a different animal in configuration, I have no idea if it runs on the same exact principle as Rossi's.

The good part is this seems to separate the two companies so that the elaborate scams that included both aren't applicable.

I do know who is going to make a ton of moolah off of this and Rossi, attorneys, fighting over either the catalyst, or Rossi breaking off the contractor finally, the disparaging remarks Rossi made about Defklalion (you know attorneys), they'll use anything they can get their hands on. Rossi will say that Defkalion stole his catalyst which might be mitigated by him also saying he misled them.

Sit back and enjoy the ride. I hope they both work, that doesn't mean I think they will.

18 posted on 01/25/2012 8:34:36 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Of course not. It fits the accepted "hot fusion" paradigm.

The same applies to muon catalyzed cold fusion. The only real paradigm is, like I said, one group has scammers claiming to produce net energy.

19 posted on 01/25/2012 8:56:13 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Have you read the proceedings from ICCF15 yet?? Or ANY paper from LENR-CANR.org??

Has Defkalion, the mysterious company with no background (except links to Rossi), published any of them?

20 posted on 01/25/2012 8:58:01 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Lx
I hope people realize that. Rossi said he misled them and Defkalion said they found the catalyst on their own

I think it's a Rossi sister scam designed to give credibility to his magic catalyst. If someone steals it, it must be legitimate, right?

21 posted on 01/25/2012 9:05:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Lx
Here is there development model:

Here is what I assumes the production model will look like:

The green thing looks like a float for a toilet bowl.

22 posted on 01/25/2012 11:19:30 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
What do you think of the Defkalion reactors in post 22? Rossi's reactors are pretty big but it looks like the Defkalion reactor I think it's the reactor part is just an aluminum (appearing) 4"x6" box where the water flows through.

What do you think; is this a tiny reactor just to demonstrate the affect because Rossi's fat-cats are pretty big?

If it is a production model, it's probably what, 1kw or less provided it works?

The pic I posted of it in the green box has different electronics in it, in fact, it looks like they combined the two circuits in the first one into one board mounted on the right side. While a two year electronic student could design the controls, that doesn't mean they can cover ALL operating conditions unless any aberration in reactions just kills the reaction instead of regulating it. I hope they got someone good because they have no choice but to work with the reactor side of the picture and you get two numbnuts whose egos are better than their skills and it is a nightmare.

You may laugh and say any design should have all parties speaking but I've been in a place where no one talked so I had to get my info from the lead programmer (on the sly) to design the systems his software was running on. I couldn't believe it but it worked in the end. It would have worked better if we were all involved in the design phase.

23 posted on 01/25/2012 2:32:28 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
"Have you seen the scheduled date of the test?"

No, I haven't. I look forward to it with some eagerness.

"This doesn't prove or disprove Rossi if it succeeds or fails. I hope people realize that. Rossi said he misled them and Defkalion said they found the catalyst on their own and from what I've seen of Defkalions Hyperion, it is a different animal in configuration, I have no idea if it runs on the same exact principle as Rossi's."

Well, they certainly are both "Ni-H2" based, so the general category is the same. If they do a real public test, it sort of puts Rossi in the "between the rock and hard place" position. He will almost certainly HAVE to respond.

"I do know who is going to make a ton of moolah off of this and Rossi, attorneys..."

Yeah, this situation is tailored for many years of litigation.

"Sit back and enjoy the ride. I hope they both work, that doesn't mean I think they will.

I've been enjoying the ride since last January. I look forward to seeing what data is generated.

24 posted on 01/25/2012 3:55:18 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Lx
"What do you think of the Defkalion reactors in post 22? Rossi's reactors are pretty big but it looks like the Defkalion reactor I think it's the reactor part is just an aluminum (appearing) 4"x6" box where the water flows through. What do you think; is this a tiny reactor just to demonstrate the affect because Rossi's fat-cats are pretty big?"

In general, Defkalion's stuff appears much better engineered than Rossi's. If you saw the slides of the early prototypes in Focardi's talk, the one thing that stood out was the crudity of the construction.

"If it is a production model, it's probably what, 1kw or less provided it works?"

I think it's impossible to say at this point. They're using a much higher temperature fluid, and working in a totally different temperature regime, so that small gizmo may actually be turning out signficant energy.

"I hope they got someone good because they have no choice but to work with the reactor side of the picture and you get two numbnuts whose egos are better than their skills and it is a nightmare."

Been there, experienced that.....NOT fun.

"You may laugh and say any design should have all parties speaking but I've been in a place where no one talked so I had to get my info from the lead programmer (on the sly) to design the systems his software was running on. I couldn't believe it but it worked in the end. It would have worked better if we were all involved in the design phase.

I most definitely would not laugh....those are my sentiments exactly. Get as much input from as many people might have expertise UP FRONT in the design process has been my mantra for probably thirty years. It took me a while to learn that, but learn it I did.

25 posted on 01/25/2012 4:01:58 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Moonman62
"The only real paradigm is, like I said, one group has scammers claiming to produce net energy."

So, your judgment is that all researchers in LENR are scammers??? That all those thousands of papers, by dozens of researchers, were all scams?? Is that your position?

26 posted on 01/25/2012 4:04:58 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Moonman62
"Has Defkalion, the mysterious company with no background (except links to Rossi), published any of them?"

How is this relevant??

27 posted on 01/25/2012 4:06:23 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
The basis of the thread is an article about Defkalion. Other than that, I don't see how reading articles from sources that the scientific community wouldn't consider "published" is relevant.

Perhaps you would like to point out the most important ones, why they're relevant, and why the scientific community should consider them published.

28 posted on 01/25/2012 7:00:43 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
LENR has Rossi and Defkalion. That's two scammers if in fact they are separate entities. Some might include Blacklight Power as another LENR scam.

We don't see any scams in the areas of fusion research that are backed by real theories, where the results can be explained with calculations, and are more than anomalies and phenomena.

Creating fusion is relatively easy. Creating fusion that produces more energy than it consumes, is commercially viable, and doesn't kill everything in a huge radius is extremely difficult. I'm confident that an ex-con from Italy with a tendency for incomprehensible tirades hasn't solved the problem.

29 posted on 01/25/2012 7:10:44 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
"Other than that, I don't see how reading articles from sources that the scientific community wouldn't consider "published" is relevant."

Because you obviously also don't think that LENR has any scientific basis. TRUE science is about reproducible facts, NOT theory. Theory is nice, but TYPICALLY comes after the garnering of reproducible facts, particularly in "paradigm-shaking" situations (a la the "Big Bang").

If you go the the LENR-CANR.org "Library" section, at the top of the page you will see a link entitled "Publications". Clicking this shows the articles organized by where published, with the list of journals in the left-hand window. Pick the ones from the journals "you" think are "most reliable". You might actually learn something.

"Creating fusion that produces more energy than it consumes, is commercially viable, and doesn't kill everything in a huge radius is extremely difficult. I'm confident that an ex-con from Italy with a tendency for incomprehensible tirades hasn't solved the problem."

Many other researchers with impeccable scientific credentials have also produced experimental evidence that the phenomenon is real, though with smaller COP than Rossi. The point isn't the COP, it's the existence of the phenomenon. But you just can't be bothered to look at the evidence, endlessly repeating your tired old "there's no theory" meme.

30 posted on 01/26/2012 4:06:34 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Have you seen this? They're calling it the Chan method after a guy named Chan I suppose. Chan Method

This is supposed to be the original source:

Original Source

I'm looking for a photo. He says he had it running at 200o degrees for two days.

31 posted on 01/26/2012 7:52:41 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Kevmo

Considering the fact that Defkalion and Rossi now seem to hate each other, this makes LENR hard to ignore.

At this point, the phenomenon seems more probable than not.

Looking down the road, I see a brief economic boom that will be milked to service gov’t debt. The day of reckoning for Greece and the West will be postponed.

On the plus side, this will drain the Mideast swamp. I also see a boom in mega-construction projects, with this new source of practically free energy. Buy Caterpillar!


32 posted on 01/26/2012 8:11:50 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Lx
Here is an interesting video even though he seemed to use every method of scene fades available in his video editor:

Cold Fusion

It's 15 minutes long so if you get free time it is interesting. He dedicated the video to Mallov (sp?)

33 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:21 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
"Have you seen this? They're calling it the Chan method after a guy named Chan I suppose. Chan Method"

Haven't gone to the original sources that you link, but have been following the comments on Vortex-L about it.

"I'm looking for a photo. He says he had it running at 200o degrees for two days."

Well, I have to put this one in the category of REALLY insufficient data. At least Rossi has "some" level of independent verification, as criticized as that verification is. This guy has zip. "If" he has succeeded with a method significantly at variance with either Pd/D2 or "normal" Ni/H2 devices, then apparently "solid state fusion" with gas-loaded systems is a LOT easier than originally thought. As with all things scientific, the truth will inevitably come out. That may happen next week, in twenty years (per P&F), or even longer, but science ALWAYS gets to the bottom of things eventually.

34 posted on 01/27/2012 5:04:12 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
The only data I've seen is that at ran at 200odegrees for two days.

He was using a glove box with propane as the inert gas and a bunch of people said that's not exactly a great idea.

I can't really make sense of his description, he's using a Styrofoam lid?

1) 10" X 10" X 10" soldered seam copper box, open at top. 2) 4" Styrofoam insulation on sides and bottom. Styrofoam cover for top.

3) 7 6" lengths of 1/4 " copper tube soldered to bottom, centered to provide platform.

4) 4" diameter by 6" long glass pipe created by cutting glass bottle. 5) #24 gauge winding around this and placement on stand completes the apparatus. The windings are connected to an RFG with a low range and pulse mode. 6) The box is filled to 8 " with mineral oil. A thermal couple is placed in the oil outside the core. Outside, a small oil pump with 1/4 " copper tubes leading into the box circulates the oil A fan cooled radiator is attached in series to provide heat dissipation and an adjustable valve allows temperature control.

7) The energy capsules which I place inside of the coil consist of 5 " lengths of 1/4 " copper tube with the bottom pressed and then spot welded closed.

Noting that excessive copper and iron surprise showed up in the Swedish analysis I stocked powders of both with varies properties.

It looks like Aussie Guy's been PNG'ed at Vortex.

35 posted on 01/27/2012 7:55:43 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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