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What goes on in the mind of a sniper?
BBC News ^ | 25th January 2012 | Stephanie Hegarty

Posted on 01/25/2012 9:36:58 AM PST by the scotsman

'A young cowboy from Texas who joined the elite US Navy Seals became the most deadly sniper in American history. In a book published this month he provides an unusual insight into the psychology of a soldier who waits, watches and kills.

As US forces surged into Iraq in 2003, Chris Kyle was handed a sniper rifle and told to watch as his marine battalion entered an Iraqi town. A crowd had come out to greet them. Through the scope he saw a woman, with a child close by, approaching his troops. She had a grenade ready to detonate in her hand.

"This was the first time I was going to have to kill someone. I didn't know whether I was going to be able to do it, man, woman or whatever," he says.

"You're running everything through your mind. This is a woman, first of all. Second of all, am I clear to do this, is this right, is it justified? And after I do this, am I going to be fried back home? Are the lawyers going to come after me saying, 'You killed a woman, you're going to prison'?". "She made the decision for me, it was either my fellow Americans die or I take her out.". He pulled the trigger.

Kyle remained in Iraq until 2009. According to official Pentagon figures, he killed 160 people, the most career sniper kills in the history of the US military. His own estimate is much higher, at 255 kills.

According to army intelligence, he was christened "The Devil" by Iraqi insurgents, who put a $20,000 (£13,000) bounty on his head.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americansniper; banglist; chriskyle; snipers

1 posted on 01/25/2012 9:36:59 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

What goes through the mind of a snipers’ target?


2 posted on 01/25/2012 9:38:42 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: the scotsman

The story of the woman with the grenade reminded me of the scene in Apocalypse Now, where a Vietnamese woman throws a hat with a grenade in it into am american chopper taking off.

I’m glad to see we are taking precautions in countries where friends and enemies look exactly alike.


3 posted on 01/25/2012 9:40:20 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: the scotsman
I have been reading Kyle's book American Sniper. It is OK--fun, fast--but not particularly eye opening...so far.
4 posted on 01/25/2012 9:42:10 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: Grunthor
What goes through the mind of a snipers’ target?

One of these:


5 posted on 01/25/2012 9:42:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

;o)


6 posted on 01/25/2012 9:43:31 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Grunthor

Allahu ak*splat*


7 posted on 01/25/2012 9:44:07 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: cuban leaf
That beats having your skull split in two with a battle-axe.


8 posted on 01/25/2012 9:44:51 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Grunthor

LOL. Boattails..


9 posted on 01/25/2012 9:44:58 AM PST by Track9 (The revolution IS brewing..)
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To: the scotsman

Thank God there are men like Chris Kyle who will do the work and take the risks necessary to fight the wars of this nation.


10 posted on 01/25/2012 9:48:05 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

ouch!


11 posted on 01/25/2012 9:48:42 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: the scotsman
As US forces surged into Iraq in 2003, Chris Kyle was handed a sniper rifle and told to watch as his marine battalion entered an Iraqi town.

Somehow, I think there was a little training involved before Chris was "handed a sniper rifle."

12 posted on 01/25/2012 9:52:27 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: the scotsman

What goes on in the mind of a sniper?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bible Verses?

Parker: [firing machine gun] I’m out of .30 Caliber!
Private Jackson: [lining shots] Bleesed be the Lord my strength, which teaches my hands to the war, and my fingers to fight.
[fires rifle twice]
Private Jackson: My goodness and my fortress... my high tower and my Deliverer.
[fires rifle]
Private Jackson: My shield, and he in whom I trust
Private Jackson: [fires rifle, then to his rifle]
Private Jackson: Here you go baby.
[fires rifle few more times. Notices a tank has spotted them]
Private Jackson: Parker get down!
[the tank fires at the bell tower killing both Parker and Jackson]


[lining up a rifle shot]
Private Jackson: Be not Thou far from me, O Lord.


[lining up a rifle shot]
Private Jackson: Blessed be the Lord my strength, which teaches my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.


[lining up a rifle shot]
Private Jackson: My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust.


[lining up a rifle shot]
Private Jackson: O my God, I trust in thee: let me not be ashamed, let not my enemies triumph over me.


13 posted on 01/25/2012 9:52:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: the scotsman

Take a breath, aim, squeeeeze! It isn’t a time for deep philisophical considerations.


14 posted on 01/25/2012 9:52:49 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: the scotsman

Actually, the Special Features section of the DVD “The Shooter” does a pretty good job of depicting what goes through the mind of a sniper. It contains interviews with the t0p-notch military men who train snipers. And it appears to me that what goes through their minds are pretty much technical calculations to make sure the bullet hits the target. Good for them!


15 posted on 01/25/2012 9:54:04 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: the scotsman

There is a story going around that Kyle decked Jesse Ventura in bar in Coronado. I saw Kyle interviewed on Fox, I think it was on BOR. Kyle would not confirm the identity of the guy whom he decked. Other witnesses say it was Ventura. The bar probably is McP’s pub in Coronado, CA.


16 posted on 01/25/2012 9:55:21 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Close. Actually, it is:

Breathe
Relax
Aim
Slack (take up trigger pull slack, if any)
Squeeze

B.R.A.S.S.


17 posted on 01/25/2012 9:58:13 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I’d rather die by sniper than by aids, cancer, shark bite, you name it.

But I would want the sniper to be really, really good.


18 posted on 01/25/2012 9:59:11 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Close. Actually, it is:

Breathe
Relax
Aim
Slack (take up trigger pull slack, if any)
Squeeze

B.R.A.S.S.


19 posted on 01/25/2012 9:59:42 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: forgotten man

That’s terrible,Jesse is an old man with a mental disability!


20 posted on 01/25/2012 10:00:49 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: the scotsman

Chis Kyle will be in my town tomorrow for a book signing. I can’t wait to meet him.

Going to buy one for me, and some for gifts.


21 posted on 01/25/2012 10:00:55 AM PST by sockmonkey
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To: the scotsman
The history channel has a great series on snipers. No combat veteran wants to be called a hero. BUT, they are my PATRIOTS FOREVER! ! Remember Carlos.
22 posted on 01/25/2012 10:03:21 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: the scotsman

I saw this guy on O’Reilly. O’Reilly kept trying to get him to admit that killing people bothered him.

The guy kept telling Orly that what bothered him were the soldiers he didn’t get to save. He didn’t have one problem with killing enemy combatants.

It was great.


23 posted on 01/25/2012 10:04:31 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: the scotsman
This is crazy how we're handcuffing out service men and women whom we place in harms way.

Are the lawyers going to come after me saying, 'You killed a woman, you're going to prison'?"

Lone Survivor by Marcus Luttrell is about the loss of SEAL Team 10 on Operation Redwing in 2005. His three comrades lost their life because they took a vote not to kill two men and a boy who were herding goats and discovered them. Mark gave the deciding vote to let them go but not before anguishing over whether they would eventually be tried in both the American Media as well as the courts. Even more relevant with the recent outcome of the last Marine of Haditha. The goat herders left and told the Al Queda combatants who came with an overwhelming force.

24 posted on 01/25/2012 10:06:29 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

That reminds me of an incident in the battles between the Scots and English.

An English knight, from what I have read, a very good man, spotted Robert Bruce on a small hill by himself with no body guards. The idea then struck him that he could end the battle by himself and spare the lives of many of his friends.

He was able to get to the Bruce and charged him. Unfortunately for him, Robert Bruce stood upright in his stirrups and killed the Englishman with a battle axe.

Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.


25 posted on 01/25/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by yarddog
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To: the scotsman

“You’re running everything through your mind. This is a woman, first of all. Second of all, am I clear to do this, is this right, is it justified? And after I do this, am I going to be fried back home? Are the lawyers going to come after me saying, ‘You killed a woman, you’re going to prison’?”.

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Too much irrelevant distraction. Compare and contrast snipers Carlos Hathcock, RVN (One shot, One Kill) and before him Alvin York, WWI Western Theater. Each generation is more conflicted, more reluctant, and more threatened by negative REMFs and civilians. This is not a criticism of this honorable marine, who faithfully performed his duties despite the cultural shackles. This IS a criticism of an increasingly confused and effete culture. If we are to survive, we need to be tougher minded. Our enemies certainly are.

“The art of war is of vital importance to the State. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected”
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War


26 posted on 01/25/2012 10:18:37 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That sounds familiar . . .


27 posted on 01/25/2012 10:20:39 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Agreed.


28 posted on 01/25/2012 10:23:07 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: the scotsman

Is it really a good idea for him to use his real name? It could make him a target of the Islamofascists.


29 posted on 01/25/2012 10:24:45 AM PST by Hacklehead (Winchester 52, because everyone needs a 22 rimfire that weighs 12 pounds.)
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To: Psalm 144

OMG!

I never knew you were a sniper.

Wow. I’m impressed.


30 posted on 01/25/2012 10:27:16 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: the scotsman

Snipers wear diapers.

just sayin


31 posted on 01/25/2012 10:33:34 AM PST by DonkeyBonker
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To: Yo-Yo
Somehow, I think there was a little training involved before Chris was "handed a sniper rifle."

I know several people in my unit who are sniper trainers. I got to shoot their 30 cal sniper rifle a few years ago. Talk about accurate using a 7 power scope. 800 meters and had a 3 - 4" pattern.

32 posted on 01/25/2012 10:35:13 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lol! No. A reader.

;-)


33 posted on 01/25/2012 10:35:56 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Hacklehead

“Is it really a good idea for him to use his real name? It could make him a target of the Islamofascists.”

Honey badger Ann Barnhardt don’t care. And she desecrated bacon with the Koran.


34 posted on 01/25/2012 10:39:24 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: the scotsman

Tag


35 posted on 01/25/2012 10:58:05 AM PST by TonyInOhio (~ You've Been Kronwalled ~)
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To: BwanaNdege
Slack (take up trigger pull slack, if any)

A top quality rifle won't have any slack in the trigger.

36 posted on 01/25/2012 11:12:07 AM PST by calex59
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To: Responsibility2nd; Psalm 144

One of the more memorable scenes in Saving Private Ryan


37 posted on 01/25/2012 11:16:36 AM PST by Texan
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To: Responsibility2nd

"Die, you random son of a bitch."

"DIE, GAS PUMPER!"

"He Hates these cans!"

38 posted on 01/25/2012 11:20:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Grunthor

Whooosh!


39 posted on 01/25/2012 11:42:57 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: the scotsman
What kind of President would Biden make?

ML/NJ

40 posted on 01/25/2012 11:44:43 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Arrowhead1952
Over four inches in less than 2 days!
41 posted on 01/25/2012 11:46:24 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Grunthor

168gr BTHP Sierra Match King.

When you care enough to send the very best ...


42 posted on 01/25/2012 11:49:59 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

HUH?? That group was ten shots in probably less than one minute. I watched the trainers shoot the 50 cal and have the same grouping at over 1500 meters, but that was a single shot rifle.


43 posted on 01/25/2012 12:08:09 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

***[fires rifle few more times. Notices a tank has spotted them]
Private Jackson: Parker get down!
[the tank fires at the bell tower killing both Parker and Jackson]****

I was reading my dad’s old book about the Acorn Division in WWII. It told of a firefight in which they noticed a Nazi tank. One of the troops ran up a flight of stairs so as to get a good shot down the barrel and explode any ordinance in the tank’s chamber, therefore blowing up the tank.


44 posted on 01/25/2012 12:22:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: the scotsman

Breathe, Breathe, sight picture breathe, breath SQEEEEEEEEZE BOOM, NEXT!


45 posted on 01/25/2012 12:49:10 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: yarddog

Sir Henry De Bohun.

Head split wide open with an axe. Bruce then of course preceded to give England its worst medieval defeat.

Bruce was sad.

That he had broken his axe.
LOL.


46 posted on 01/25/2012 2:55:21 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Whoa! I was talking about your tag! 4 inches of rain! yesterday in Texas, or. LOL


47 posted on 01/25/2012 3:04:14 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: the scotsman

Love this one:

U.S. sniper, asked what he feels when he shoots an al-Qaeda member, replies: “Recoil.”


48 posted on 01/25/2012 6:45:30 PM PST by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Whoa! I was talking about your tag! 4 inches of rain!

Oh, I understand. We had 2" at home, but some areas east of Austin had close to 10" yesterday.

49 posted on 01/26/2012 5:16:20 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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