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Newt Gingrich on self-deportation "Romney shows no concern for 'Humanity' of illegals"
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Posted on 01/25/2012 9:45:33 AM PST by VU4G10

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1 posted on 01/25/2012 9:45:38 AM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

America is finished kids.


2 posted on 01/25/2012 9:51:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VU4G10

The biggest reason to hate Newt!


3 posted on 01/25/2012 9:53:33 AM PST by dalereed
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To: VU4G10
Newt also stated that Romeny's self deport idea is of "someone who lives in a world of $20M in Cayman Island accounts". And, that to believe "that grandma and grandpa, who've been paying bills, working hard and supporting the community would self deport...self deport?".

Hmmmmm.

4 posted on 01/25/2012 9:55:09 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Jane Long

So?


5 posted on 01/25/2012 9:57:03 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: VU4G10

I support Newt. I will vote for Newt.

This clip shows Newt at his worst.

The arrogance, the condescension, the demagoguery.

Why doesn’t he just answer the question?

If you close the border, prevent employers from hiring illegals, and cut off government handouts to illegals, then some illegals will go home. This is “self-deportation”. So what do you think about it, Newt?

The interviewer knew Newt was being an arrogant, pandering ass and so he just repeated the question.


6 posted on 01/25/2012 10:01:00 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: VU4G10

How to Deport 10-20 Million Illegal Aliens (Self-Deportation)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2837182/posts


7 posted on 01/25/2012 10:01:48 AM PST by VU4G10
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8 posted on 01/25/2012 10:04:38 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: VU4G10

This is the 10% of his immigration policy I don’t care for. However looking at the total package I say. GO NEWT GO!


9 posted on 01/25/2012 10:04:49 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: VU4G10

Newt will require illegals to get Id cards if they don’t when they get caught they are gone. Newt will close the border with a fence and Homeland security being moved to the border so they can see Mexico from their window! Require businesses to do background checks to hire people! This will end illegals by default. They will leave!


10 posted on 01/25/2012 10:05:02 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: VU4G10

ah yes legalize 20 million uneducated, unskilled, receivers of entitlements for humanitarian reasons and watch the other 300 million Americans get killed by drunks and low-life’s and get stuck with the bill to pay their way with free school, hospitals, welfare, food stamps and housing.

Sometimes you just have to draw a line at generosity and give first to those here legally. Each dollar given to an illegal in benefits or expenses is a dollar not given to a person here legally. The humane thing would be to allow the illegals to leave on their own without being fined or incarcerated and let their own countries take care of them.

Spread our generosity too thin and we will be unable to help anyone. Humane? Methinks not, humanity like charity should begin at home.


11 posted on 01/25/2012 10:05:30 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

If there are 30 million illegals in America, that’s enough to make nearly 50 congressional districts that will be primarily democrat.

Republicans are like meth addicts committing slow suicide.


12 posted on 01/25/2012 10:09:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Newt is pandering or just isn’t bright enough to understand the issue. Either way I will not vote for him.


13 posted on 01/25/2012 10:11:40 AM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: rogue yam

Nothing worse than having a POTUS that people think is arrogant...


14 posted on 01/25/2012 10:12:17 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: cripplecreek

I will contend conservatives are finished as a principled philosophy. This whole clip / interview from the anti-immigrant language to another shot as someones wealth and finances is straight out of leftist language. Yet many here will gyrate themselves into accepting this as mainstream conservative positions.


15 posted on 01/25/2012 10:14:00 AM PST by lakewood conservative
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To: cripplecreek

Enforcing our immigration laws is bedrock conservatism for me. Fail on illegal immigration and you fail.


16 posted on 01/25/2012 10:14:20 AM PST by jpsb
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To: free me

He knows exactly what he’s doing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2833684/posts


17 posted on 01/25/2012 10:14:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VU4G10

Newt Gingrich at his pandering, arrogant worst.


18 posted on 01/25/2012 10:14:38 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dalereed

I agree Dale. :)

19 posted on 01/25/2012 10:14:42 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: lakewood conservative
Yet many here will gyrate themselves into accepting this as mainstream conservative positions.

See tagline.
20 posted on 01/25/2012 10:16:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VU4G10

half illegals came over on visas. They are all from god knows where. Has any of the candidates addressed what they are going to do about this?

these people will never leave!


21 posted on 01/25/2012 10:18:12 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: lakewood conservative

So now if you are not for amnesty for illegals you are a RINO? I think I am going to have to check in daily to get my updated definition of what it means to be a RINO.


22 posted on 01/25/2012 10:20:47 AM PST by jpsb
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To: VU4G10

Newt the Compassionate Conservative?


23 posted on 01/25/2012 10:21:03 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks. That confirms he has gone all in with the complete destruction of America in exchange for a chance to maybe be president. I had hoped he would see the light.
Oh well.


24 posted on 01/25/2012 10:25:33 AM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: cripplecreek

I am proud to say I support none of this lot of Republican hacks we have right now before us. Now in the general I will have to make a huge decision not to vote (except for down ticket) or make a decision like I did for McCain.

Everyday I wonder why in this great country we cannot find a principled conservative who is also a leader.


25 posted on 01/25/2012 10:33:25 AM PST by lakewood conservative
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To: cripplecreek; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; South40; AuH2ORepublican
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.


26 posted on 01/25/2012 10:35:36 AM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: rogue yam; Utmost Certainty
Spot on.

I support Newt. I will vote for Newt...
...If you close the border, prevent employers from hiring illegals, and cut off government handouts to illegals, then some illegals will go home. This is “self-deportation”. So what do you think about it, Newt?

Self-deporting techniques that have been tried in other states do work. I wish Newt would have explained that.

27 posted on 01/25/2012 10:36:23 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: VU4G10

Newt’s “ideas” on immigration are detestable, and the pandering to open-borders propagandist Jorge Ramos was nauseating. But it might be worse how he described Romney’s income as “$20 million a year automatic WITHOUT WORKING.” WTF? Like he didn’t work years ago to set up those investments? that he didn’t get double-taxed (corporate 35% and then Cap gains) on much of that income? I want Mittens defeated, but this is not the way to do it.


28 posted on 01/25/2012 10:40:10 AM PST by montag813
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To: VU4G10
Is this really different from Gov. Perry using the term “heartless”?

From where I came from, illegal immigration did and does take jobs away from US citizens. It also puts a tremendous strain on a Government already spending us into oblivion, meaning the ones who will truly be suffering are (again) US (taxpaying) citizens.

Gingrich is just wrong on this issue, if he truly means what he says.

I didn't like Bush's amnesty ideas and I don't like Gingrich's amnesty ideas. To me, it reflects an elitist attitude from those who either don't care about the middle class or are so detached they don't understand real America.

29 posted on 01/25/2012 10:47:29 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: tallyhoe
Newt will require illegals to get Id cards if they don’t when they get caught they are gone. Newt will close the border with a fence and Homeland security being moved to the border so they can see Mexico from their window! Require businesses to do background checks to hire people! This will end illegals by default. They will leave!

And then you woke up and realized it was all a dream.

30 posted on 01/25/2012 10:50:20 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
And then you woke up and realized it was all a dream.

There are a lot of "dreamers" on FR lately...

31 posted on 01/25/2012 11:10:38 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: free me

You’re in ‘Jersey which is deep Obama territory anyway. Why don’t you take on that Romney-loving RINO governor of yours?


32 posted on 01/25/2012 11:20:30 AM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: tallyhoe

a fence...lol and 13 million illegals grab ladders to go over and shovels to go under...come on..noone is building a fence


33 posted on 01/25/2012 11:21:03 AM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: rogue yam

Sorry, but you’re wrong.

If I’m living here and my kids are here and my grandkids are here, I’m not going back to Germany just because the economy goes into a downturn.

My staying has absolutely NOTHING to do with the economy.

We’re talking about MY grandkids...my blood.

I do not desert my blood.

I’m sure you understand that.


34 posted on 01/25/2012 11:21:51 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: VU4G10

Damn it. I have said that neither man is ideal. Newt is still “better” however.


35 posted on 01/25/2012 11:21:51 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: VU4G10
Inviting illegals here is a ‘religious’ issue first. But of course the politicos for nonreligious purposes like/need cheap labors and votes. Illegal immigration is not view by those that fill their coffers, get their landscaping done on the cheap, as an ‘law and order’, Constitutional issue. It will be up to ‘we the people’ to demand law enforcement first and foremost to stop the invasion.
36 posted on 01/25/2012 11:23:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: newzjunkey

I am in swing state Pennsylvania now. I will not vote for Newt in the primary. If he’s the nominee I will vote for him.

I will not vote for Romney period.


37 posted on 01/25/2012 11:28:34 AM PST by free me (heartless=no humanity)
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To: Rational Thought; All
You and the rest attacking Newt are showing your own prejudices. He's saying some will not "self-deport" and ridiculous to suggest they would, given their circumstance.

You same rabble-rousers ignore Newt advocates the kind of enforcement AZ and other paradises of "self-deportation" have enacted well before ever looking at the edge cases he mentions for those few with long histories and deep community ties.

Having utterly failed to find a "pure" alternative and having destroyed everyone else but Mitt Romney, you lot are desperate to find a reason to hate the last man standing between Romney and the nomination.

38 posted on 01/25/2012 11:29:21 AM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: xzins
I’m sure you understand that.

I understand that your reply to me is obnoxious and retarded.

What is the German word for "some"?

How do I say "Jerry is too stupid to distinguish between 'all' and 'some'" in German?

39 posted on 01/25/2012 11:31:47 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: newzjunkey
He's saying some will not "self-deport" and ridiculous to suggest they would, given their circumstance.

Some will self-deport, some will not.

You, me, Newt, Mitt, everyone on this thread, we all know this is the case.

But it is simply not true to say that this is what Newt is saying in this clip. He is saying something else. You, me, and everyone else on the thread knows this too.

So what do you really think Newt is saying here?

40 posted on 01/25/2012 11:38:08 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: VU4G10
All those concerned for the "humanity of illegals," should be looking to run a boat service between the US an Bangladesh, and maybe sharing all their food with the people after they get off the boat. They're human too.

ML/NJ

41 posted on 01/25/2012 11:39:08 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: VU4G10

” ... The purpose of American immigration laws and policies is not to be either humane or inhumane to illegal immigrants. The purpose of immigration laws and policies is to serve the national interest of this country. ...”
Thomas Sowell

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=372337


42 posted on 01/25/2012 11:40:57 AM PST by aldabra
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To: rogue yam

And they won’t be grandparents, which was the point.

Some things are easily overlooked, and others are simply missed.

The most logical reason that long-term inhabitants of the US will not return to some former residence is family ties.


43 posted on 01/25/2012 11:42:15 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: cripplecreek; All

Your tagline is indeed very important. It’s something I try to keep in mind when I make my political decisions.

I have a core set of values. People may not agree with them, but they made sense to me, and I adopted them. To sell out those values, and support someone who doesn’t agree with them, is impossible for me.

Illegal immigration is something I have been against since before Reagan granted his amnesty. I opposed letting 1 million stay (when I thought it was only 1 million), and I haven’t changed my mind today, when it’s between 20 and 35 million.

The best interests of our nation are not served by allowing a large body of illegal immigrants to stay here. The provision of a legal document does not cure the ills that come with illegal immigration.

1. broken laws
2. occupation of regions of our nation
3. the break down of law and order
4. the lack of responsibility for folks who can run to Mexico rather tan face the music here when they break the law
5. the bankrupting of our health care institution
6. the bankrupting of our education systems
7. strain on government services, food stamps, welfare, housing, monetary subsidies
8. the drain on the middle class, as it is forced to pay taxes and fees to support poor people, who take take take, then work under the table for income in addition to that
9. the corruption of our legal process, as first one party then the other pander to illegals to get their votes (why does a Republican candidate make appearances on Univision to explain his immigration policies) (why is it more important to pander to between 20 and 35 million illegals who supposedly can’t vote, than to pander to around 200 million legal citizen who can)
10. corruption of the legal process in the United States (since when do we issue a fix to illegality, prior to the penalty for the crime being served/paid) (why are we not enforcing our laws rather than creating fixes to reward the perps)

On top of these problems, the McCain/Kennedy bill in 2007, set up a very generous work visa program, that would have allowed two million Mexican nationals to enter the United States legally each year. Anotherwords, it would have made the flow of two million Mexican nationals into the United States each year, legal.

My biggest fear is that Newt would adopt that rotting excuse for reasoned legislation. So far his plan sounds just like it.

Folks, people here on work visa permits, can start the process for citizenship after six years here. How many of those two million legal entries per year would ever go home?

Do we want to adopt a plan that allows massive numbers of Mexican nationals to swamp our nation, while the immigration quotas from Northern Europe and the rest of the planet remain constant?

Where is the equity in that? Is that moral? Isn’t it actually racist at the end of the day?

I am a Citizen of the United States. I am a law and order Conservative. My first concern is how immigration impacts our nation, and whether that immigration makes us stronger or weaker.

If certain aspects tend to be destructive, then I have to stand up and be counted as disagreeing with them.

We are to the point, that all immigration should be stopped for twenty years or so, so that the people who are here can be assimilated. The immigration from terrorist states must end. We must seriously tackle the issue of bodies of people who have been taught in their institutions that the United States is evil, or that infidels deserve to die.

We have seen all the warning signs we need to see, and yet we’re barreling through them at maximum warp drive.

This insanity must end, or as a people we will. We’re down to one candle folks. It’s flickering. What’s it going to be?


44 posted on 01/25/2012 11:52:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: VU4G10

Some of the same people who see Newt as extreme, grandiose, harsh, zany...criticize him for not being in favor of draconian measures to deal with illegal aliens.
One size does not fit all. Trying to make it so would be catastrophic, and we’d lose face trying to put it into practice against a constant parade of pathetic victims trotted out daily by the Dems, while the media hammered us. Newt’s plan is sensible and feasible, and less imperfect than the alternatives. Makes the best of a bad business, as the old timers used to say.
I realize that’s unpopular thinking around here, so for the record I do understand all parts of “illegal.”


45 posted on 01/25/2012 12:10:12 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: VU4G10

I don’t like this. I can’t just forgive these types of remarks.

Romney may be lying,....ugh


46 posted on 01/25/2012 12:13:08 PM PST by dforest
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To: free me
Newt is pandering or just isn’t bright enough to understand the issue.

A lot of people are thinking that. Have you read his proposal to deal with the illegals, on newt.org? It's a good idea to check it out before concluding he is dishonest or stupid.

47 posted on 01/25/2012 12:14:07 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: free me

Perry was excoriated for making remarks like this.


48 posted on 01/25/2012 12:14:44 PM PST by dforest
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To: cripplecreek

Your tagline reminds me of this “be very careful you do not become what you say you hate the most”.


49 posted on 01/25/2012 12:16:46 PM PST by dforest
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To: rolling_stone
ah yes legalize 20 million uneducated, unskilled, receivers of entitlements for humanitarian reasons and watch the other 300 million Americans get killed by drunks and low-life’s and get stuck with the bill to pay their way with free school, hospitals, welfare, food stamps and housing.

Not to mention increasing demands for political representation, proportionate to their numbers. That's one "politically incorrect" topic nobody wants to broach, even as government and foundation funding continues to pour into the coffers of La Raza and the like.

50 posted on 01/25/2012 12:22:46 PM PST by Calliecat
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