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Woman shot, killed trying to break into home(OH)
daytondailynews.com ^ | 22 January, 2012 | Andy Sedlak

Posted on 01/25/2012 10:03:58 AM PST by marktwain

DAYTON — A woman is dead following the attempted burglary of a residence on Burbank Drive, according to police.

The woman was fatally shot by the resident of 1932 Burbank Dr., after she broke in to the residence Saturday afternoon and was confronted by a resident of the home. The resident told the unarmed woman to stay put after he discovered her intruding, but the woman threw an object at him. He then shot the woman in the chest using a semiautomatic handgun, according to Dayton Police.

When asked if the resident was justified in firing his weapon, Lt. Kenneth Beall said, “It’s going to take more investigation and a more detailed interview to make a conclusion like that.

“In the eyes of the courts, a man’s home is his castle,” Beall said. “(But) I can’t come to that particular conclusion right now in respect to this incident.”

The resident was placed in police custody, but has not been charged with any crimes at this point, police said.

The Montgomery County Coroner's Office identified the woman shot and killed as Rovena Turner, 18, of Dayton. Police did not identify the resident.

It appears the two parties did not know each other, according to police.

Craig Robinson lives on Wicklow Place, about half a block from Saturday’s homicide.

“All my neighbors are wonderful people,” he said. “We look out for each other, we talk to each other. This does not make any sense.”


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I wonder if Rovena Turner has a criminal history.
1 posted on 01/25/2012 10:04:04 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The resident was placed in police custody, but has not been charged with any crimes at this point, police said.

Does that mean that she rots in jail until they figure this out?

2 posted on 01/25/2012 10:07:06 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marktwain
No one will be surprised at this:

http://www.jailbase.com/en/arrested/oh-gcso/2011-11-23/rovena-lashawn-turner-1100004338

3 posted on 01/25/2012 10:07:41 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: marktwain
When asked if the resident was justified in firing his weapon

Only a hammerass would ask this question. If intruder comes into my house, I will kill him.

4 posted on 01/25/2012 10:08:36 AM PST by laweeks
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To: marktwain

“...This does not make any sense.”

Why does this kind of statement always seem to show up in these Leftist rags? Hello, people! There’s something called ‘evil’! You need to wake up and realize that it exists in the world.


5 posted on 01/25/2012 10:08:43 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

The press apparently cannot name the victim, but they certainly have no ethical or moral compunction against giving the exact address where the victim lives.

Pathetic.

As for the homeowner, .... nice shootin’. Made the world a better place by a factor of 1.


6 posted on 01/25/2012 10:09:25 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: marktwain
It appears the two parties did not know each other, according to police.

When a stranger breaks into your home, they've already broken the law & you have no idea of their further intentions .... I, for one, am not going to take the time to play '20 questions'.

7 posted on 01/25/2012 10:09:58 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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just say the intruder made a movement and thought they were going to reach for a gun. Thats what cops say so it’s good enough excuse for anybody too.


8 posted on 01/25/2012 10:10:17 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: marktwain

I wonder if Rovena Turner has a criminal history.


Looks like that would be “had”.


9 posted on 01/25/2012 10:10:56 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: grobdriver

10 posted on 01/25/2012 10:12:05 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: marktwain

I am sure she was a good girl, good student and loved her grandmother...


11 posted on 01/25/2012 10:13:23 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: freedomlover

Always good to hear someone get taught a lesson like this they’ll never forget.


12 posted on 01/25/2012 10:14:00 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: Cicero
"Does that mean that she rots in jail until they figure this out?"

I think that the police and persons in custody would quickly be barfing if they let her rot in custody. Better to take her to the morgue.

In the meantime, the man who shot her, is in custody.

13 posted on 01/25/2012 10:16:05 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Cicero

Typically the police can hold you for up to 24 hours without charge in police custody. This can be extended by a Judge to I think 96 hours.
Please take the time today to find a lawyer, meet with them, make sure they are pro-gun etc, and willing to come running if an incident occurs and then keep their 24/7 phone number with you at all times.
In the case of a shooting or a situation like this, having your lawyer show up on the scene can definitely reduce your chances of ending up in custody and will ensure if you do, you get out as quickly as possible.


14 posted on 01/25/2012 10:17:05 AM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: marktwain

“The resident told the unarmed woman to stay put after he discovered her intruding, but the woman threw an object at him”

...proving she was armed! “Objects” like what? A 3 lb ash tray? A meat cleaver?


15 posted on 01/25/2012 10:17:11 AM PST by albie
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To: marktwain

I am so glad I fled Dayton when I got the chance.

I was mugged at gunpoint a year ago, right on the VA grounds, by a black crackhead.

Dayton Ohio is a black Leftist enclave, and is economically and socially beyond redemption.


16 posted on 01/25/2012 10:17:28 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: freedomlover

Holder loses another one of “his people.”


17 posted on 01/25/2012 10:17:55 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: freedomlover

Only lived 2 months and one week after her last arrest.


18 posted on 01/25/2012 10:18:01 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: marktwain
Rovena LaShawn Yvette Turner

18-year-old killed during apparent burglary had history of theft

19 posted on 01/25/2012 10:18:35 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: laweeks

I sympathize, but obviously not the thing to say in an actual incident.

Be prepared if you ever have to resort to deadly force for self defense.

Learn to say the words “I was in fear of my life” and “I want my lawyer now”, then say nothing more. You are justified to use deadly force only when in fear of your life or the life of others with you.

Do not give anyone the opportunity to think you have a premeditated plan to kill. Do not use home reloaded ammunition. Expect to be arrested and your gun confiscated. Expect huge legal ramifications. But of course be grateful you are not the dead crime victem.


20 posted on 01/25/2012 10:19:37 AM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: marktwain
After reading about Aileen Carol Wuornos last night, I doubt I'll underestimate the threat potential of anyone again, regardless of their age or gender.

You just don't know what someone is capable of, especially someone who has just broken into your home.

21 posted on 01/25/2012 10:20:09 AM PST by GBA (Natural Born American)
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To: marktwain
According to that police report, she told the relative she stole the money, “Simply because I can.”

"Yes, we can."

Post-Ubama "civilization."

22 posted on 01/25/2012 10:20:37 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: albie

pillow, stuffed bear??


23 posted on 01/25/2012 10:20:42 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: albie

pillow, stuffed bear??


24 posted on 01/25/2012 10:21:03 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: marktwain

Why does it matter if a criminal is a woman or a man? A criminal is a criminal.

Shoot them all....legally of course.


25 posted on 01/25/2012 10:22:36 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: freedomlover
•FAILURE TO APPEAR; ISSUANCE OF WARRANT

Case closed. Jury is excused...

26 posted on 01/25/2012 10:27:16 AM PST by moovova (I call the new CFL light bulbs..."Obama Bulbs"...because they're so dim.)
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To: marktwain

“No more bam bam for that mama-san.”


27 posted on 01/25/2012 10:30:37 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MrEdd

Pity, I’m pretty sure those that knew her, or activisted for her, thought she was turning her life around, or at least, on the verge of turning her life around.


28 posted on 01/25/2012 10:33:13 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Magnum44

Be prepared if you ever have to resort to deadly force for self defense.

Learn to say the words “I was in fear of my life” and “I want my lawyer now”, then say nothing more. You are justified to use deadly force only when in fear of your life or the life of others with you.

Do not give anyone the opportunity to think you have a premeditated plan to kill. Do not use home reloaded ammunition. Expect to be arrested and your gun confiscated. Expect huge legal ramifications. But of course be grateful you are not the dead crime victem.

truly words to live by


29 posted on 01/25/2012 10:33:33 AM PST by yeetch! (These are the good old days!)
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To: Magnum44
You are justified to use deadly force only when in fear of your life or the life of others with you.

This depends on the state. Even this won't do in MA, NY etc. you have to retreat from the criminal to the maximum extent possible in these police states. OTO in Texas their a$$ is yours if they break in.

30 posted on 01/25/2012 10:35:35 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Magnum44
Do not give anyone the opportunity to think you have a premeditated plan to kill.

No premeditation about it. If the perp has no business being in my house, I will kill him. To allow him to wander around, hurt, maim, kill my housemates or me is preposterous. If I can possibly kill him, I'll do it. He will not be a repeat offender when I get done with him.

31 posted on 01/25/2012 10:41:14 AM PST by laweeks
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To: from occupied ga

Yep. In Texas, we shoot to kill. Even before the ‘castle doctrine’ was made legal, a prior country sheriff told my father to defend our family first. Even back then, the sheriff knew the deputies would not get there in time, except to take photos and pronounce time of death.


32 posted on 01/25/2012 10:48:23 AM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: marktwain

WE have the Castle doctrine here in Ohio and last I looked dayton was still part of Ohio....


33 posted on 01/25/2012 10:49:27 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: from occupied ga

Here in Texas the law differentiates between day light and night. But I am pretty sure you will walk if you catch a thief in your house in day light. At night Texas is almost a free fire zone, catch someone on your property at night and you walk. Nobody goes uninvited on private property at night here.


34 posted on 01/25/2012 10:58:45 AM PST by jpsb
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To: bigredkitty1

Here is GA your house and your car are free fire zones if you’re being attacked by a criminal. The car addition was prompted by a rash of carjackings about 10 years ago. Naturally the black Democrats in the legislature voted against it calling it irresponsible and racist. Oddly enough, the number of car jackings dropped somewhat despite the lies of the black democrats. Still not down to zero though periodically a criminal is denied all chance of recidivism.


35 posted on 01/25/2012 11:01:14 AM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Effin’ A!

It reminds me of a dressing-down that Hannibal “The Cannibal” Lecter (correctly, in this instance) gives to FBI Trainee Starling in The Silence of The Lambs. She was fumbling about, asking Lecter about his childhood, hinting that something amiss caused his murderous impulses. He was having none of it: “You can’t reduce me to a set of influences. You’ve given up good and evil for behaviorism, Officer Starling. You’ve got everybody in moral dignity pants—nothing is ever anybody’s fault. Look at me…can you stand to say I’m evil?”

Evil exists. Some people just need shooting. The trick is figuring out which ones. (When they break into your house and, even when confronted by an armed homeowner, they attack with a thrown object? That’s a big clue.)


36 posted on 01/25/2012 11:04:05 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Farmer Dean

Don’t worry, they’ll dig her up in November.


37 posted on 01/25/2012 11:09:37 AM PST by mykroar (I believe in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it.)
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To: laweeks

Your story reminds me of a attorney boss I once had. Huge liberal on nearly every issue ... except this: He had two guns in his home and told me on a number of occasions this (closely paraphrasing):

“If I ever catch a burglar, unless he gets away so fast I can’t shoot or perhaps if he immediately prostrates himself in surrender, I will kill him. I will make sure he’s dead. I will tell the police what I need to tell them, even if it’s not the absolute truth. Because if I leave him alive, just watch: He’ll sue me — even from jail, perhaps — and force me to spend all kinds of money just to defeat his garbage lawsuit (or, worse, my homeowner’s insurance lawyers will toss him some Go Away Money, then hike my premiums).”

I always thought he had a point. I think about him sometimes and wonder if the gun-grabbing policies of the politicians for whom he invariably votes have ever prompted him to vote conservative for a change.


38 posted on 01/25/2012 11:10:28 AM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101

You know things are really screwed up when a criminal on trial for murder tells the court he’s guilty and he should be executed but the court will hear none of it.


39 posted on 01/25/2012 11:12:07 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

According to police records, Turner was first arrested in 2009 for stealing $15 from a neighbor. Later the same year, she was accused of stealing money and a cell phone from a wheelchair-bound resident of a nursing home. One year later, she was again arrested for stealing $35 from a cousin. According to that police report, she told the relative she stole the money, “Simply because I can.”


40 posted on 01/25/2012 11:12:40 AM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: marktwain
"You've come a long way, baby"
41 posted on 01/25/2012 11:22:20 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: marktwain

Same sort of thing was reported yesterday in Dana Point CA..a man was awakened late at night, found a robber in his home and shot him dead..
Long live the 2nd Amendment.


42 posted on 01/25/2012 11:30:33 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: laweeks

Just sayin, depending on where you are, an unfriendly prosecutor and an unfriendly jury will take advantage of a homeowners predisposition to kill (if they can find evidence of this), as opposed to your natural instinct to survive, which is triggered in the life threatening situation.

I am not criticizing your comment. But I do not recommend airing your comments publically where they could be used against you in court. Advice I would give anyone who makes the decision to keep a gun for self defense.

Best Regards


43 posted on 01/25/2012 11:41:46 AM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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But I do not recommend airing your comments publically where they could be used against you in court.

Amazing that we have to cower before a court to somehow explain away the telling people that I would kill an intruder and then trying to explain away that it's not premeditated. Incredible. Just incredible.

If I can kill the intruder by any means, I'll do it. There . . . premeditated murder. Outrageous.

44 posted on 01/25/2012 11:48:57 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Cicero
The shooter is male.

Instead of shooting her, he could have offered her some weed and discussed with her the possible opportunities for a fulfilling career as a community organizer.

I wonder if the shooter will be charged with a hate crime--it probably depends on whether he is white or not.

45 posted on 01/25/2012 11:52:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Joe the Pimpernel
From your link:

According to police records, Turner was first arrested in 2009 for stealing $15 from a neighbor. Later the same year, she was accused of stealing money and a cell phone from a wheelchair-bound resident of a nursing home. One year later, she was again arrested for stealing $35 from a cousin. According to that police report, she told the relative she stole the money, “Simply because I can.”
46 posted on 01/25/2012 11:55:57 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: yeetch!
“I was in fear of my life” and “I want my lawyer now”, then say nothing more.

The police will talk you into a corner to arrest you. Do not discuss anything
including your feeelings to any cop. Just shut the hell up and find a lawyer.
They can/will take anything you say out of context, then forget everything else
when your day in court comes. So, just shut the hell up.
Police are not your friends.


Situations like this are stressful and the police will try to question you over and over again.
What happens during this stressful time is your adrenalin starts to wear off and you
begin to remember more details.

Details make the story change by adding on to what happened.
When your story changes the police Will turn it over to the DA for investigation and bring charges
against you because they will assume you are lying or hiding something.

Never tell your story to the police, let an attorney do it. And tell the police your
attorney isn't allowing you to talk to them. They will not hold you or your attorney responsible
for doing his job by protecting you against charges.

The police will try to make you talk, and even threaten you with life in prison
for not talking to them. Remember, the police can legally Lie all they want.

47 posted on 01/25/2012 12:19:03 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: PA Engineer
According to that police report, she told the relative she stole the money, “Simply because I can.”

Not anymore.

48 posted on 01/25/2012 12:42:09 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: MaxMax
The police will talk you into a corner to arrest you.

Don't talk to police.

49 posted on 01/25/2012 12:44:25 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: freedomlover

Looks like the courts let this gal down. If they had stuck her with a jail time of any decent length she might still be alive.


50 posted on 01/25/2012 1:01:37 PM PST by 21twelve
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