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Santorum Giving Up on Florida?
The Corner ^ | 1/25/2012 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 01/25/2012 1:30:33 PM PST by TBBT

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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yep. He only ever got any support (and money), because of a false sense of support after a political ploy in Iowa. He’s never been popular, and very few people like him. He’s been done (and polling at the bottom), for the entire race, there was just a dead cat bounce/blip after the funny business in Iowa. He immediately fell back where he’s always otherwise been: last.


51 posted on 01/25/2012 2:54:59 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: edge10; DJ MacWoW
‘wisdom, maturity, and character’
What are three characteristics that Newt will never have.

Planning to opus soon, are you?

52 posted on 01/25/2012 2:56:33 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: TBBT
"Perhaps it has something to do with the proxy server..."

No,it has something to do with the nut on the keyboard.

53 posted on 01/25/2012 2:57:59 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
"Can someone explain to me why Santorum is not catching on?"

For the same reason we will never elect another Calvin "Silent Cal" Coolidge, and the reason children's toys are bright and shiny. This culture has become the culture of Americanidolladygagajerseyshoreobamadonaldtrumpetc.

Flash and bombast trump principle and worth. That's not to say a flashy, bombastic person can't have principle or worth, but the former qualities will always trump the latter in the eyes of voters weaned on soundbites.

54 posted on 01/25/2012 2:58:29 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: JediJones
I would hope Santorum leans Newt's way too in spite of some of his supporters, but this race has had some disapppinting suprises. I thought Palin would show more support to Bachmann and Santorum then she has, so her stock has dropped with me. No matter how flawed the end product of these primaries, though, Obama is my constant reminder, as he was last night, that I will vote for whoever comes out the other end (except for Paul who is left of Obama on some things).
55 posted on 01/25/2012 3:01:44 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Even if Newt collapsed, Santorum isn’t going to win anything.


56 posted on 01/25/2012 3:12:27 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: mrreaganaut

No one wants Santorum in the VP slot.


57 posted on 01/25/2012 3:17:14 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: thedrake

Rick Santorum most certainly did not endorse or support Scozzafava. I was implying that before attacking Santorum’s conservative bona fides because of his stupid endorsement of Specter, one should remember that Newt made an even dumber endorsement even more recently (the “Oh, wait” at the end was my subtle proxy for a “sarcasm” tag).


58 posted on 01/25/2012 3:17:14 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: houeto
West is one mighty handsome gentleman, isnt he? I don't know much about his politics, but for sure he'd bring a nice aesthetic balance to the ticket because, as some other FReeper (I forget who) noted elsewhere, Gingrich looks like the friggin' Keebler Elf! [^)

GODSPEED NEWT GINGRICH.

59 posted on 01/25/2012 3:21:04 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: JDW11235
I've watched Santorum in town halls and he connects with people very well. In national polls he has lower negatives then most of the other candidates in the race. He especially connects with women. He's been very prominent in the pro-family movement for some time. He came out to Iowa and rode a bus to help remove the judges who forced homosexual marriage on the state. He's worked the causes when most never bothered. He won in Pennsylvania that is a heavily democratic swing state, so how you can say he doesn't connect I don't get. Usually being a social conservative kills you in a dem state, but he must have connected because he got elected despite it. You obviously don't care for people of faith, so maybe Paul's your choice. Actually, I'd think equating Catholicism with Wahabism is more in line with an Obama supporter, and I'm not a Catholic.
60 posted on 01/25/2012 3:22:26 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: COBOL2Java

Hey dammit, why would Santorum get out? Guess he just heard where Andrew Coulter said Willard the liberal was the only conservative left in the race. LOL.


61 posted on 01/25/2012 3:22:58 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: TBBT

If Santorum drops out he’ll back Romney for the same reason he backed Specter. He cares more about ‘winning’ that doing the right thing.

How did that work out for you ex-Senator?

He’s a conservative only when his mouth moves, not his brain.


62 posted on 01/25/2012 3:22:58 PM PST by Fledermaus (I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
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To: edcoil

>> “ give us a break.” <<

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Arm or leg?


63 posted on 01/25/2012 3:24:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: TBBT

I agree. I like Rick Santorum okay, but. he needs to drop out now. He is just in the way, now. If he drops out, I can imagine that most of his followers would come over to Newt.


64 posted on 01/25/2012 3:29:28 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: JDW11235

Santorum campaigned very hard in Iowa and it paid off. I think he went around every county in a small truck. Iowa is a smaller state than is Florida, so it may have been easier to get around. Plus he had more time being as it was the first one. He only has a week or so between one primary from the next, so he doesn’t have the time to visit all the counties like he did in Iowa.


65 posted on 01/25/2012 3:30:27 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: TBBT
He needs to concede and throw his support behind Gingrich.

His attempts to try and make a three man race out of what already is a three man race (ie. Newt, Mitt, and Paul) are failing.

He may try and get some traction after Florida, but if Florida is a bust and he comes in behind Paul, or even ahead of Paul but far behind Mitt and Newt...he needs to get out.

66 posted on 01/25/2012 3:33:27 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Lil Flower

Or they won’t vote at all. Many Santorum supporters do not like Newt or Mitt.


67 posted on 01/25/2012 3:34:43 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: edge10
‘wisdom, maturity, and character’
What are three characteristics that Newt will never have.

Seems like that was your opus.

BYE!


68 posted on 01/25/2012 3:39:15 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: murron
I think your right. I didn't think much of Santorum to begin with, and I could not for the life of me figure out where the heck he came from in Iowa. Then I saw him in a town hall in NH on C-span, and I knew that's what made him in Iowa. It's that retail politics. He shook everyone’s hand in the whole place, and he didn't dance around the hard questions either. Problem is like you say, that won't work in these huge states with short time frames. Santorum is average in the debates, but he's magic at the grass roots. He won't make it, but it's too bad because he's good at what he does.
69 posted on 01/25/2012 3:39:50 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: murron
According to the last PPP poll for SC, 58% of Santorum supporters say Newt is their 2nd choice, while 32% say they'd go Romney, 10% Paul.
70 posted on 01/25/2012 3:47:05 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: TBBT

Santorum was a “Establishment Republican”. I doubt you will see him throwing his support to Newt.


71 posted on 01/25/2012 3:51:59 PM PST by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: JDW11235

You really nailed it describing Santorum!


72 posted on 01/25/2012 3:54:57 PM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
Can someone explain to me why Santorum is not catching on?

Well, I'll just give you the opinion of one who has never been very impressed with the man.

He simply doesn't strike me as presidential. I know that may sound like thin gruel, but that really is how I perceive him, and it counts for a lot with me.

Rick strikes me as a state level politician. He seems to be over-reaching by playing in the major leagues, when he really ought to be back in the minors. Every time I see him at the podium in the debates, he just seems completely out of place to me.

Then, there's his Senate voting record. Huge deal-breaker there. I won't post the whole thing again, but here's a link:

What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like

73 posted on 01/25/2012 3:55:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: onyx

The take on Santorum’s possible exit at Legal Insurrection: http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01/are-we-seeing-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-rick-santorums-campaign/


74 posted on 01/25/2012 3:56:37 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; reaganaut; exit82; 50mm; Old Sarge; DarthVader; Jim Thompson; darkwing104; ...

Well what do we have here another one who does not know the rules!! IBTZ!! The Viking kitties are coming!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpvLCptAHT8


75 posted on 01/25/2012 3:57:12 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Windflier

If he is running out of steam and money, this is a big deal. I just hope he leaves with the same class and timing that Perry did. According to the link I posted just before your last one, Santorum’s voters break more than 2-1 Newt to Romney.


76 posted on 01/25/2012 4:01:12 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: TBBT

Rick, you’re a nice guy but this is out of your league. If you can’t take on Florida then you’re just playing around.


77 posted on 01/25/2012 4:02:11 PM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: throwback

I didn’t equate Catholicism with Wahabi-ism. I said Santorum’s policies were PSEUDO-Cathlo-wahabi-ism. I have no problem with Catholics, I have a problem with Santorum’s overzealous nanny state mentality, while pawning it off as Catholicism, that only he’s getting right. He’s a modern day Pharisee. Got it? Good.


78 posted on 01/25/2012 4:04:29 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: varina davis

Thanks! Thank goodness so few people follow him and his big government platform. What a terrible empire we’d have under his “The Tenth amendment only applies when I say so,” rule. Yikes!


79 posted on 01/25/2012 4:06:46 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Like Bachmann, Santorum looks good on paper, but just cannot carry it off in the debates.

And I will do everything I have to to make sure Mitt doesn’t get the nomination - and that means supporting Gingrich over someone who looks good on paper but will never win.


80 posted on 01/25/2012 4:08:26 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: JediJones

Dropping out and endorsing Newt would also shed his Romney’s “Mini-Me” image.

It’s a win-win scenatio, but he needs to act now.


81 posted on 01/25/2012 4:08:51 PM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: edge10; 50mm; darkwing104; TheOldLady



Looks like Tinypic is down, so the image isn't posting..

SO... I will text it out until Tinypic is back up ;)


ZOT!!!!!

82 posted on 01/25/2012 4:09:25 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Could it be because he’s boring and reminds everyone of their brother Stephen who has a master’s degree in mechanical engineering and a vast stamp collection? He’s Ned Flanders without the personality.


83 posted on 01/25/2012 4:11:33 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: JDW11235

I’m a Catholic, and Santorum has always struck me as a holier-than-thou, more-Catholic-than-the-Pope kind of guy.

That said, I suspect that if he leaves the race, he’ll endorse Romney.


84 posted on 01/25/2012 4:17:01 PM PST by livius
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To: Nervous Tick

If only Santorum had not spoken poorly of Governor Palin on at least 2 occasions?

But he did, I can not get passed that myself. His comments also go to character.

In case anybody missed them, his first negative comments about Gov Palin, came immediately after she stepped down as AK Governor. He said my wife and I were so disappointed in her, he went on and on about it.

And then on another occasion said that she was only interested in speaking fees (I paraphrase )


85 posted on 01/25/2012 4:22:32 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Lakeshark

Thanks very much. I seriously doubt that he’s dropping out, or if he is, it won’t be in time for Florida.


86 posted on 01/25/2012 4:22:48 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: edge10; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
‘wisdom, maturity, and character’

What are three characteristics that Newt will never have.

'A FReep account, credibility, unburned skin'

What are three things edge10 no longer has? ZOT!

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

87 posted on 01/25/2012 4:25:12 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Lakeshark
If he is running out of steam and money, this is a big deal. I just hope he leaves with the same class and timing that Perry did.

One can hope, but having watched the man throughout this primary, I just don't think he's made of the same stuff as Perry.

If and when he does drop out, I think he'll make a brave and professional sounding speech, but underneath, he'll be seething. Personally, I think the man has some sort of anger issues. It comes across in every debate.

As for the timing of his exit from the race, that'll say a whole lot about his character and core values, won't it? If he stays in through the Florida vote, then he's obviously helping Mitt Romney. If he exits before the vote, then I'll adjust my perception of the man accordingly.

According to the link I posted just before your last one, Santorum’s voters break more than 2-1 Newt to Romney.

A lot of Santorum supporters on this site won't admit that, but it's what I've sensed all along. I mean, where are people who profess to admire the guy supposed to go, if he leaves the race?

88 posted on 01/25/2012 4:27:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bert

Personally he seems like a decent guy. I just don’t sense he has the fire in his belly, or the willingness to get dirty fighting the hard left.


89 posted on 01/25/2012 4:27:59 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: onyx
It looks like it might be soon however, we'll see if Santorum leaving the state early is true and how his numbers add up in the final vote. If his supporters get wind of this, they might go to Newt early.

I hope the next debate is better for him, Newt needs to beat Romney in Florida to keep the momentum. I have the feeling this will be closer than in Carolina, maybe a knuckle biter.

90 posted on 01/25/2012 4:28:34 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: TBBT

The last of the conservatives going....*sigh*


91 posted on 01/25/2012 4:31:34 PM PST by LUV W (Unleash the American People!!)
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To: Lakeshark

If Santorum is planning to exit, then he needs to go after Romney in the next debate and leave Gingrich alone. That will be a signal. Iknow the GOP-E wants Sanotrum to stay in to split the vote.


92 posted on 01/25/2012 4:32:38 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: edge10

he certainly has maturity but he also has a smart brain.
His character is based on his intelligence and is in no doubt a very educated man.
Wisdom, honestly do you really think he has no wisdom?

Look you might get banned I don’t know but I wanted Rick when it got to 4 people but Rick is not clicking and Newt can take obama on in any debate in any subject.

He might not be perfect but he is the best to get obama and he has a lot of fight in him, sadly Rick is just too nice a guy for this race.

Hopefully you’ll be around but it doesn’t help when you attack like that.


93 posted on 01/25/2012 4:32:44 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: LUV W
The last of the conservatives going....*sigh*

Last of the "I don't know the meaning of the general welfare clause or the 10th Amendment" conservatives going....
94 posted on 01/25/2012 4:33:06 PM PST by aruanan
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To: 50mm
So passes Denethor, son of Ecthelion
95 posted on 01/25/2012 4:34:52 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Friendofgeorge
...his first negative comments about Gov Palin, came immediately after she stepped down as AK Governor. He said, "my wife and I were so disappointed in her", he went on and on about it.

And then on another occasion said that she was only interested in speaking fees (I paraphrase )

As if I didn't already have enough reasons to dislike the guy. That really puts the cap on it for me. There's no question in my mind, now. The guy's a big government, establishment tool.

Good riddance.

96 posted on 01/25/2012 4:35:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Well it appears Mr. Palin has no problem with whatever may or may not have been said since he endorsed Newt.


97 posted on 01/25/2012 4:36:04 PM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Forget my comment. I misread Santorum for Newt. My brain must be fried with all this politic talk. Sorry about that.


98 posted on 01/25/2012 4:37:43 PM PST by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Yes, and then he said something about she really needed to stay home with her children.


99 posted on 01/25/2012 4:38:53 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: LUV W
The last of the conservatives going....*sigh*

Well, there's a back-handed way of calling Newt a RINO, or worse.

100 posted on 01/25/2012 4:39:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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