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CDC Study Finds Fibers Arenít Cause of Morgellons
WSJ ^ | 1-25-2012 | Shirley S. Wang

Posted on 01/25/2012 2:36:09 PM PST by Dysart

A long-awaited government study on a mysterious skin condition known as Morgellons disease concludes that it isn’t infectious or caused by something in the environment. It also is very rare, affecting fewer than 4 in 100,000 people surveyed.

(The study appears in PLoS ONE.)

However, it isn’t possible to say from the data whether the mysterious skin condition — “unexplained dermopathy,” as the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention calls it — is a new ailment or part of an existing condition like delusional infestation, according to the researchers from the CDC, Kaiser Permanente Northern California and several academic institutions.

“We believe that these people have something and their quality of life [has] in some instances been very seriously impacted,” says Mark Eberhard, the CDC’s director of the division of parasitic diseases and malaria and a study author. “We’re not saying this is made up. There could be a constellation of factors.”

Much of the fascination with the condition has stemmed from reports that these individuals have fibers or material coming out from their skin. They also have skin lesions and often describe itching or stinging sensations.

In the new 115-patient study — believed to be the largest to date and eagerly anticipated by the Morgellons community — analyses showed that the fibers came from clothing or the environment, not any biologic material. There is “no evidence” that the fibers cause skin lesions or sensations, according to Eberhard.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delusions; fibers; morgellons

1 posted on 01/25/2012 2:36:18 PM PST by Dysart
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To: SunkenCiv
A Thread Runs Through It ping.
2 posted on 01/25/2012 2:37:57 PM PST by Dysart ("Don't worry, it's not loaded")
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To: Dysart

later


3 posted on 01/25/2012 2:38:28 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Dysart

It’s a delusional disorder, plain and simple.


4 posted on 01/25/2012 2:41:21 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Rudder

Wrong.


5 posted on 01/25/2012 2:48:58 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Rudder
It’s a delusional disorder, plain and simple.

I know. But dissuading someone from a delusion isn't easy. (See Liberals.)

6 posted on 01/25/2012 2:49:08 PM PST by Dysart ("Don't worry, it's not loaded")
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To: Rudder

I was one of the first few hundred diagnosed. I may have delusions, but not about this.


7 posted on 01/25/2012 2:50:34 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86

How are you doing now?


8 posted on 01/25/2012 2:51:47 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: steve86

Wow, do you think the fibers come from clothes, or do they actually come from within your skin? Is your condition under control?


9 posted on 01/25/2012 2:53:28 PM PST by hampdenkid
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I still can’t work. But surviving. Thank you for the question. There is at least one other FReeper in the patient population.

The quasi-diagnosis of delusional parasitosis is typically dropped quickly once a clinician evaluates an afflicted patient or two, and particularly after reviewing tissue specimens.

That’s all I have to say right now.

http://www.morgellons.org/


10 posted on 01/25/2012 3:01:23 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86
My wife and I are dealing with this. Finally found a dermatologist who would actually look at deep skin samples and found the same thing.

Funny thing we asked our family psychiatrist if he thought it could be delusional parasitosis and he said the fact that we were willing to consider that possibility meant it wasn't delusional parasitosis. That is the way delusions work.

11 posted on 01/25/2012 3:06:23 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Dysart

Study concludes it’s an “unexplained dermopathy.” Well, that certainly clears it up (no pun intended).


12 posted on 01/25/2012 3:09:52 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Scythian

Pingaling!


13 posted on 01/25/2012 3:10:43 PM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Thanks for ringing him up...


14 posted on 01/25/2012 3:11:21 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: hampdenkid

There wasn’t any question the fibers — and I was one of the first to use that term — are embedded deeply within the skin, probably extending into subcutaneous tissue. Everyone knows you can pick up bits of fabric, specks of lint, etc., on the skin - that’s no revelation to us and we can find those too on occasion. The Morgellons fibers are remarkably uniform from patient to patient and show unusual characteristics including idiosyncratic photoluminescence and a physical makeup similar to cellulose. I have not actually seen the fibers for about 10 years and believe my skin is in a drawn-out “struggling to heal” process. I guess my psychotic delusions ended ten years ago LOL.


15 posted on 01/25/2012 3:12:26 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86

And if the fibers are incidental/environmental in nature — why do you not find the same fibers in a control group? Huh, CDC?


16 posted on 01/25/2012 3:17:27 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Dysart

My granddaughter, who isn’t a hypochondriac, showed me a place on her arm where she pulls out blue fibers every once in a while. She says it starts itching and then she pulls them out.

She knows nothing about Morgellon’s and I didn’t tell her anything. She’s a teenager and actually thinks it is kind of cool.

AFAIK, she has no other symptoms.


17 posted on 01/25/2012 5:34:15 PM PST by tiki
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To: Dysart
Patients who are suffering from these symptoms... said Eberhard ... "should have an open mind on both sides of the equation and not jump to conclusions. There shouldn’t be a lot of time spent on infectious causes or on whether the fibers are at the heart of the matter.”

Yeah, so don't be jumping to any conclusions, got that?


18 posted on 01/25/2012 11:08:34 PM PST by Talisker (Apology accepted, Captain Needa.)
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To: steve86

That is absolutely amazing — and I deeply appreciate your allowing us to invade your privacy. I’m sure there are others like me here on FR who have seen TV reports or read articles on your condition, and naturally we are intrigued.

I’m thrilled to hear that your fiber invasion seems to be in some sort of remission. And, no, I do not believe you are delusional. “There are more things under heaven than we have dreamt of in our philosophies.”


19 posted on 01/26/2012 4:58:02 AM PST by hampdenkid
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To: Dysart; neverdem; decimon; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

Thanks Dysart.
...a mysterious skin condition known as Morgellons disease concludes that it isn't infectious or caused by something in the environment.

20 posted on 01/26/2012 6:22:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Dysart

Just because an illness is psychiatric in origin doesn’t mean that it is any the less real. Let us hope that effective treatments can be found.


21 posted on 01/26/2012 6:59:26 PM PST by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Right. I think that’s essentially what the study found and recommended... said as much if not explicitly. Although they wanted to be clear about their findings on nature of the “fibers” claims. That’s good.


22 posted on 01/26/2012 7:05:19 PM PST by Dysart ("Don't worry, it's not loaded")
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To: Dysart

Morgellons a is real phsyical condition, I know, I experienced it for 3 years, it was dreadful, it’s not very rare, that’s a lie, even the doctor on FoxNews claimed he had many patients claiming they had this condition and he’s in NY not California. There are many freepers who have contacted me privately stating that they have this condition. I’m one of the few that has basically been able to rid myself of it. It is not merely a skin condition, hardly, it’s devestates you.

Simply because the CDC could find no cause is not the same as saying there is no cause. That’s like saying there is no gold in China. I don’t care what anyone thinks on this subject honestly, I was pinged on this thread and this is my reply. I have nothing to prove, those who have it know, and many doctors have it, I’ve spoken with them.

There is a list of excellent articles here tying it to dental adhesives: http://www.parasitetesting.com/morgellons.cfm

If you want to believe that it was all in my mind fine, I really don’t care.


23 posted on 01/27/2012 12:24:48 PM PST by Scythian
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