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William Jefferson Gingrich [BAD BEAT, RIVERED]
New York Sun ^ | January 25, 2012 | R. EMMETT TYRRELL

Posted on 01/25/2012 3:53:39 PM PST by Nonstatist

Newt up against the Prophet Obama would be a painful thing to watch. He might be deft with one-liners but it would be futile. There are .. uncommitted voters to be cultivated in 2012 — all would be unmoved by Newt’s juggling of conservative shibboleths..

Now Newt is hustling my fellow conservatives .. The last time around he successfully hustled conservatives in the House of Representatives and on the House impeachment committee.. He blew the impeachment and .. his role as Speaker. He now says Republicans in the House were exhausted with his great projects. Nonsense, they were exhausted with his atrocious leadership...

He is playing the liberal media card and saying he embodies conservative values. Newt is hoping conservatives suffer amnesia. Perhaps they cannot recall mere months ago when this insufferable whiz kid was lambasting the great Congressman Paul Ryan for “right-wing social engineering” — more evidence of Newt’s not-so-hidden longing for the approval of the liberal media.

Newt and Bill ..went on to create empires, Bill in philanthropy and cheap thought, Newt in public policy and cheap thought. Bill has wrung up an unprecedented $75.6 million since absconding from the White House with White House loot and shameless pardons. Newt .. got between $1.6 million to $1.8 million from Freddie Mac, and he lobbied for Medicare Part B while receiving, according to the Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney, “Big Bucks Pushing Corporate Welfare.” Now after a lifetime in Washington he is promoting himself as an outsider.

Conservatives should not be surprised by the scandals that lie ahead, if they stick with him. Those of us, who raised the question of character in 1992, were confronted by an indignant Bill Clinton, treating the topic as a low blow. By now we know. Character matters.. Newt has Clinton’s character.

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101 posted on 01/25/2012 6:13:39 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Bikkuri

Some of them have skill in just staying below the surface. Eventually they expose themselves.


102 posted on 01/25/2012 6:13:48 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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Ok. It’s official...we have to be getting into bug zapper thread numbers now.

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103 posted on 01/25/2012 6:13:59 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: pa mom

Watch your step......


104 posted on 01/25/2012 6:14:22 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Biblebelter

Article 1 Section 3 is not that complicated, even a mediocre mind like my own can wrap my arms around it. But impeachment is a political process and conviction was hopeless once Newt and the boys lost seats in November. After the republican leaders in the House resigned it was assured that they would not even garner a majority in the senate for conviction, no less two thirds.

I don’t know what to say to somebody that thinks otherwise.


105 posted on 01/25/2012 6:14:34 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: woofie

Woofie says...Next !


106 posted on 01/25/2012 6:15:29 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Nonstatist

This is an interesting election by the fact that all the RINOs, who we thought were conservatives, are sticking their heads up above the foxhole to be shot off.

Tyrrell. Bang! Splat!


107 posted on 01/25/2012 6:22:23 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: big'ol_freeper

Yes, some ARE good at staying below the radar.. trying to remember how I described it the other day.. Projecting themselves without fully exposing... or something like that.

BUT, this guy has been out in the open with it since the 17th.. well, that’s about as far back as I read of his posts..

Anyway.. feels a bit cleaner on FR now ;)


108 posted on 01/25/2012 6:22:39 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: big'ol_freeper

Snitchbot


109 posted on 01/25/2012 6:24:56 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: rbmillerjr; TheOldLady; 50mm; darkwing104

I lost count (and wasn’t keeping names) around 15 or so.. and that was almost a week ago :p

I will backtrack, but I am sure I have missed many of them myself. TheOldLady, Darkwing104 and 50mm will have to get together and compare notes, I think, to get a general list and count..


110 posted on 01/25/2012 6:27:04 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Nonstatist

I’d love to explain why you support ROmney when he is not a conservative, hell he;s not even a republican.

Won’t repeal obamacare.
wants talks with taliban
wants a VAT
is for the homosexual agenda
was or is still who knows with him for planned parents hood
second amendment
the list is endless

can’t be bothered and no time but Romney is no republican nor a conservative, his principles , well he has none.
Te establishment wants him because they want the homosexual agenda much like the talking heads of Coulter, Hannity etc
The establishment wants him because he is socially liberal.

Clearly the establishment did not take the warnings from the base.

No more RINO’s like Romney we want a proper conservative socially and fiscal who has fight, has guts to take obama on, not some wishy washy north east /beltway elitist who likes to go to their elitist cocktail parties with the cross dressers and homosexuals and sup brandy and thinks the north east and the beltway is real America


111 posted on 01/25/2012 6:27:22 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: jwalsh07
But impeachment is a political process and conviction was hopeless once Newt and the boys lost seats in November.

Dude do you understand that ONLY SENATORS can vote to acquit or convict in an impeachment trial. This is the result of the Senate elections of 1998.

The balance of the Senate remained unchanged at 55-45 in favor of the Republicans.

112 posted on 01/25/2012 6:29:08 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: pa mom

How is bashing Newt a good thing? Do you see liberals bashing Obama?

Why does our side have this obsessive compulsive behavior to bash their own candidates for all to see??


113 posted on 01/25/2012 6:29:56 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: John S Mosby

As a Christian, it was very important for me to decide if Newt was truthful about his new faith. I watched him alot, read a lot, and this was one of the most meaningful articles - to me - that I read. Newt is very serious about his faith.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/what-kind-of-catholic-is-newt-gingrich/2011/12/14/gIQAvKC2tO_blog.html


114 posted on 01/25/2012 6:32:44 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: woofie

Reagan’s Young Lieutenant. Gingrich a star on Reagan team...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2837275/posts


115 posted on 01/25/2012 6:34:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: Pelham

Brock was a writer for The American Spectator. I used to read it way back in the day. Brock wrote “The Real Anita Hill” just after the Thomas hearings.


116 posted on 01/25/2012 6:39:22 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: John S Mosby

Sorry, I posted the wrong link - the previous one was to a WaPo blog, this is the actually Post story, which is very thoughtful, and fair.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/newt-gingrich-what-kind-of-catholic-is-he/2011/12/20/gIQA3wRgDP_story.html


117 posted on 01/25/2012 6:46:34 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: Yaelle; Jim Robinson

“I wish Santorum could get traction because he has good character and will work with congress as well as listen to the people.”

If you think Santorum is free from sin, you aren’t paying attention. Santorum doesn’t have the horsepower or the guts to go up against the criminal Chicago machine and the Marxist media. We tried nice guys before - and Santorum is a nice guy - but today, in these circumstances, we need a fighter who will stomp liberal balls into the concrete.

Santorum won’t do that. Gingrich will. If you want a fight according to Queensbury rules, go watch a checkers match in the park.

We are at war. As JimRob says: Rebellion is on!


118 posted on 01/25/2012 6:56:45 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Biblebelter

LOL. Are you really that naive or are you pulling my leg? Senators of both parties smelled the political winds and knew there would be no repercussions for acquittin Clinton. Two Republican Speakers of thr House had just resigned and under Newts leadership the House lost seats and my opinion is that they lost because our side was only getting a small percentage of Newts capabilities.

:-) That was rich though, the lesson on impeachment. Thanks for the chuckle.


119 posted on 01/25/2012 6:57:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: moviefan8

Yep, going to be a lot of that in the next few weeks.


120 posted on 01/25/2012 6:58:44 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: 50mm; willk
To willk;

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121 posted on 01/25/2012 7:04:38 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: AmericanVictory

“One I remember in particular was a Congressman from Southern California whose name escapes me now (Rogan, maybe). “

It was James Rogan.

Henry Hyde, James Rogan... great seeing some of the names I hadn’t thought of in years.


122 posted on 01/25/2012 7:05:12 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: willk; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Allegra; Chode; ...

You're A Homo!!

123 posted on 01/25/2012 7:08:39 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: 50mm
Another Mitt bites the dust!

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124 posted on 01/25/2012 7:13:40 PM PST by Blado (Obama is a coprolite from the Late Soviet Era)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Interesting posting history Romneybot:

Yikes! Well deserved ZOT for willk.

I'll post an occasional article about conservatives that may be considered negative solely for discussion purposes and to point out its fallacies so other readers can better know the facts. But my comments always make it clear where I am coming from and that I don't support the article's thesis. The poster of this thread stepped in it big time with his comment "The hand we're dealt" looks to be really, really, crappy." Well deserved ZOT for him, too.

125 posted on 01/25/2012 7:14:38 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: jwalsh07

Your premise is based on a denial of political reality.

You are asserting that the positive political momentum in the House translates to political momentum in the Senate.

Historical fact does not support such a ridiculous reading of history.

The Senate was a treacherous lot in 1999, just as is in 2012.

In the 2010 the Repulicans won by HISTORIC margins in the House which translated to NOTHING in the Senate.

Leader McConnell and the likes of McCain sold out the majority in the House just like Leader Lott and guys like Gramm and Specter sold them out in 1999.

LOL if you will but your laugh reminds me of the laugh of the Black Knight.

In case this cultural allusion is below your elevated tastes in culture, I have provided a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4


126 posted on 01/25/2012 7:15:28 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter

Dude, you live in the same world as Dorothy and the Tinman. You’re ridiculous. The Republicans had 55 seats in the senate and could not get a majority for conviction in an obvious case of obstruction because of politics. Your naivete is something to see. Let us recap:

Clinton was diddling the help while discussing troop movements with a congressmen. He then lied and obstructed justice in front of a grand jury. About a year later two Republican Speakers resigned. Republicans lost seats in the House during the sixth year of a presidency, the first time this had happened in well over 100 years.Clinton finished out his term.

Big win for Newt.


127 posted on 01/25/2012 7:26:15 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: woofie
...I’ve come to realize they really were RINOS

In this climate you best remember not to forget adding /s to your posts.

128 posted on 01/25/2012 7:29:05 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: Nonstatist; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Allegra; ...

And You're Zotted With Extreme Prejudice!!

129 posted on 01/25/2012 7:29:05 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: true believer forever; John S Mosby

Excellent article. Praying the Rosary is not something a casual Catholic does if he is only trying to emulate Bill Clinton’s carrying a Bible. I believe Newt is truly embracing his still young commitment to his faith.


130 posted on 01/25/2012 7:38:49 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: Let_It_Be_So

“Clinton WAS impeached, by the House, as will forever be reflected in the official record. Like Gingrich or not, one cannot say with any historical accuracy that Gingrich “blew the impeachment”.

The decision whether to convict an impeached President rests solely with the US Senate, not the House. If I recall correctly (and I do), Gingrich was not in the Senate. Gingrich did his job. The Senate “blew” it.

EXACTLY RIGHT! GOOD JOB!

Impeachment happened thru the House of Representatives!

HE WAS IMPEACHED.


131 posted on 01/25/2012 7:41:06 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: jwalsh07
The Republicans had 55 seats in the senate and could not get a majority for conviction in an obvious case of obstruction because of politics. Your naivete is something to see.

You are not aware of David Schippers. He made it clear that the House Managers were SOLD OUT by the Republicans in the Senate.

Long before the results of the 1998 election Lott said do not bring that crap over here, that crap being the impeachment charges.

The reason that some Republicans felt comfortable not voting for impeachment was the trial was a SHAM because the House Managers were hamstrung by the rules agreed to by Phil Gramm. I am not sure if they ever could have got a conviction but I know the cards were stacked against them not because of Newt but because of the rules. Newt Gingrich NEVER sold out, it was the RINOS in the Senate.

All the former head cheerleader at the University of Mississippi wanted to do was sing with his buddy that political crossdresser Jeffords in the Senate's barbershop quartet, he could not be bothered with considering such matters as the criminality of Bill Clinton.

To blame Newt and give the likes of Lott and Gramm a pass tells me you are no conservative but a treacherous RINO just like Lott and Gramm who I am sure wherever they are, are supporting Romney by attacking Gingrich just as you are doing.

I give your due dude, not only do you have the Black Knight's laugh, you have every bit of his tenacity. Enough said, you have proven your loyalty to Mitt by your unflinching hatred of Gingrich by denying every reasonable argument.

132 posted on 01/25/2012 7:59:42 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter; jwalsh07; wagglebee; Jim Robinson; All

*snip*

We’ve done our job. Our job now is to go over to the Senate. Well do our job there and we will abide by their rules, Rep. James Rogan RCalifornia said.

But even before the senators have returned to Washington, Senate Democrats have been approaching some Republicans to gauge support for censure. Possible targets include GOP moderates like Sens. John Chafee of Rhode Island, Jim Jeffords of Vermont and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine.

But Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott RMississippi had some discouraging words for those efforts, saying in a news interview Monday that the believes the Senate has a responsibility to hear all of the evidence before anybody considers cutting the trial short for a censure deal or some other alternative punishment of Clinton.

*snip*

Though many Democrats favor censuring the president rather than removing him from office, key Senate Republicans have said an alternative should be considered only after a speedy impeachment trial, and perhaps only after a vote on whether to remove the president from office.

Conservative Sen. Phil Gramm RTexas says a censure resolution would be both superfluous and a poor precedent. In a written statement Tuesday, Gramm said censure pales next to the historical weight of the impeachment resolutions already voted by the House.

http://articles.cnn.com/1998-12-29/politics/1998_12_29_impeachment_1_censure-deal-censure-resolution-senate-democrats?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS


133 posted on 01/25/2012 8:14:09 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

The subtext is that Lott and Gramm could never accept censure, as their constituents in conservative places like Texas and Misssippi would never allow it.

That was the compromise that Gramm agreed to, no censure, but a trial with rules that were much more liberal than the house managers had expected and prepared for which made the trial a show trial. Give the house managers their due, they fell on their swords and never publicly complained. The truthes were told not by them but by Schippers.


134 posted on 01/25/2012 8:29:09 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter; STARWISE

You job you guys!


135 posted on 01/25/2012 9:13:02 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

January 25, 2012 4:28:11 PM PST · 44 of 135
big’ol_freeper to Yaelle; Jim Robinson
It is accepted etiquette that if you are going to mention someone you should ping them.


Accepted etiquette? So my breach of same is made better by you hurrying to have me thrown off the site? And I should learn kindness from you?


136 posted on 01/25/2012 9:46:52 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: jwalsh07

“Big win for Newt.”

You Newt bashing simpleton. Quit revising history, we lost seats because Gingrich and Kasich were attempting to get more budget cuts.

Clinton shut down the damn government and the media blamed it on Republicans.

That’s why seats were lost.


137 posted on 01/25/2012 10:09:24 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: woofie

How in the world you come to the conclusion that I did anything that comment on R.E. is beyond me. Just because the clock is broken it is still correct twice a day. RET has been out of it for years. He destroyed a perfectly good American Spectator with his nonsense.

I never called him a RINO I merely observed that I gave up on him and his analysis years ago.


138 posted on 01/25/2012 10:43:08 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

My comment was not meant strictly for you ....I can no longer count the number of threads where someone makes a similar comment about any number of former good guys ....Once they disagree they become bad guys.


139 posted on 01/25/2012 11:09:22 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

Oh you mean like Ann Coulter or Peggy Noonan? Look some folks are inconsistent. for me RET went over the bend when he started hitting the booze so hard that he lost all rational thought. He drove AS into the ground and we lost a great magazine in the process.

Buckley always had a bit of a libertarian bent to him but he was thoughtful and witty and razor sharp. Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of my life time. He saved the nation when it was on the bring. Was he perfect> Nope but my good what a grand and noble man he was. His greatest defect of character was probably that he believed all people are basically good——so when the Dems wanted to role him all the had to do was say ‘ we promise’ and the Washingotn insiders would urge him to go along.

Reagan for my money was more than good enough. How I wish some one such as him were there for us now.


140 posted on 01/25/2012 11:28:16 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

The one I love is Karl Rove ...now there was a good guy who is now the enemy ....its strange though, when he says something pro Newt he still doesnt become a good guy

I will be glad when the primary is over ...


141 posted on 01/25/2012 11:34:01 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

Oddly enough I never liked Karl Rove. But then I never thought that GWB was a conservative either.


142 posted on 01/25/2012 11:35:08 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

The only political figure I can say I truly dislike right now is Obama

I felt the same way about Clinton ....but Ive even softened on him a bit once he got out of power.


143 posted on 01/25/2012 11:41:58 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

I truly dislike Obama and have from day one. He is the epitome of Chicago thugocracy mixed with rampant communist tendencies. The man is a racist and as evil as anyone I have ever seen.

I just hope we can defeat him because otherwise we are all in a world of hurt


144 posted on 01/25/2012 11:46:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: willk; Nonstatist; lakewood conservative; everyone; Jim Thompson; darkwing104; 50mm; ...


So long, willk (Posting History),  lakewood conservative (Posting History),  and nonstatist (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Just about everyone and Jim

Triple ZOT of the Day!


   


Bye, mittbot, concern troll, and blog pimp


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

145 posted on 01/26/2012 6:15:09 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: humblegunner

“Yeah, whatever. Gingrich is what we have to work with and we had by-God better get behind him or watch the whole circus fold. Deal. “

Right on.


146 posted on 01/26/2012 6:20:16 AM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: TheOldLady

The only problem being that romnoids, like herpes, always come back.


147 posted on 01/26/2012 6:55:49 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Preparation ZOT, for prompt relief from annoying romnoids.)
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To: pa mom

“So we can’t have ANY issue with extra-marital affairs? It’s an issue and a problem and we can’t just ignore it.”

So, you are good with those who facilitate casual, bloody abortion but will not accept those who have publicly repented of sexual sin?

Perhaps when it is all over you may be introduced to the loving couples Ahab -n- Jezebel and Herod -n- Herodias rather than the squalid and embarassing David and Mary Magdalene.

After all, the real core meaning of life is:

NEVER DRINK NOR SMOKE NOR CHEW! NEVER KISS NO GIRLS WHO DO!


148 posted on 01/26/2012 7:23:23 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Preparation ZOT, for prompt relief from annoying romnoids.)
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To: TheOldLady

Hat trick!


149 posted on 01/26/2012 9:07:27 AM PST by glock rocks (I didn't leave the Republican party, it left me.)
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To: Psalm 144

Can’t stop them, but “we will, we will ZOT them.”


150 posted on 01/26/2012 9:21:57 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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