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Lt. Colonel Alan West's full response regarding the Marines urination on dead Taliban
Weekly Standard ^ | January 2012 | Alan West

Posted on 01/26/2012 7:03:26 AM PST by Jeff Head

In case you did not see it, here's Lieutenant Colonel (now U.S. Congressman) Alan West’s full response on the Marines’ video, the one where Marines are shown urinating on dead Taliban corpses.

“I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu.

" Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?

“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; islamicjihad; jihad; nobama
This is precisely the attitude required.

These Marines had witnessed their buddies being blown apart by Taliban IEDs and had caught and killed people responsible. While doing what they did is not acceptable...until you have had friends dear to you, horrifically slaughtered by these 17th century throw-backs, who hate and malign every thing you stand for...you freedom, your faith, your constitution...and who want to enslave or kill in the most brutal fashion imaginable anyone opposed to them and are waging war to do just that...then we cannot be so quick to judge the intense emotion and stress they are under. That does not condone or excuse it...but it helps understand it, and realize, despite how it looks in the sheltered, warm, dry, well-fed, living room in which we live, what horrific conditions our own heroes are fighting in.

Truth be known, givien historical precedent, it is amazing that our forces are so well trained and disciplined that this is one of the worst things they do.

For more, read Congressman West's review of the Ft. Hood shooting:

HERE ON FR

This man understands the enemy. Thank God he is now in Congress. We need a lot more like him. I hope he becomes Vice President some day...and then later, POTUS.

What a difference there would be between this honorable, hard working, clear thinking, and veteran minded American and the marxist ideolog currently inhabiting the White House.


AWAKEN AMERICA!

1 posted on 01/26/2012 7:03:37 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

If Congressman West can maintain his morals, his common sense and his extraordinary fighting spirit while sitting in the cesspool of political correctness, he will accomplish great things.

To have such a man in the White House would be a blessing.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 7:09:51 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, and many others.)
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To: Jeff Head
“...unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

Alan West. I love this man.


BTW, good to "see" you, too, Jeff Head! Keep up the good work!

3 posted on 01/26/2012 7:12:13 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Jeff Head

Side bar!!! The magnificent Mr. West is a prime reason why every registered Republican in the great state of Florida must turn out and vote in the upcoming POTUS nominee primary, next Tuesday, January 13, 2012!!! There are four million Pubbies registered in FL. If you could turn between out 2.5-3.0 million voters via early, absentee and regular voters, voting on election day, it would be a major victory for those who want to defeat POTUS Obama in November. It will send a message heard throughout our land, that Obama and his Democrat Party must go!!!

It does not matter who you cast your vote for, be it, Santorum, Paul, Gingrich or Romney, just get out and vote!!!


4 posted on 01/26/2012 7:14:09 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Jeff Head

Perfect.

Two birds with one stone:

1) Educating the public on the proper approach to, and understanding of war.
2) Telling the talentless hand-wringing pansies in the media to go F themselves.

Now, if he would only do the same to his Congressional Black Caucus.....


5 posted on 01/26/2012 7:17:31 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Jeff Head

I really like this man. I hope he rises to the challenge and serves his country yet again in the Executive Branch.


6 posted on 01/26/2012 7:18:26 AM PST by Wordkraft
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

IIRC, Lt Col West has announced that he will accept nomination as the Republican vice presidential candidate.

This could make the Rep ticket unbeatable in my opinion.


7 posted on 01/26/2012 7:20:29 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: reasonisfaith

Alan West for POTUS.

He is the man!!


8 posted on 01/26/2012 7:21:44 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Albion Wilde

Alan West. I love this man.

Me too. I wish we could clone him, clean out congress and replace it with a bunch of him! That would fix things.


9 posted on 01/26/2012 7:22:41 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: EyeGuy

He’s just warming up and loading another magazine


10 posted on 01/26/2012 7:24:11 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Jeff Head

LTC West is correct and the left have no concept of how to deal with violence.

As a former nightclub bouncer in NYC, I was involved in plenty of bar fights. The first rule of bar room fighting is there are NO rules. Survival first and if that includes grabbing nads and pulling hair,so be it.

Whenever a potential fight was about to occur, we would warn the suspected brawlers that if they fight, they will lose and we will take your girlfriends home with us as a reward.

Many stopped but others tested us.

And yes, I took their girlfriends(who were always willing as they all loved bouncers)as a ‘war’ bounty.


11 posted on 01/26/2012 7:27:43 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Bitsy

My respect for this man only continues to grow.


12 posted on 01/26/2012 7:30:22 AM PST by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: reasonisfaith

Amen to every bit of that. Spot on. BZ.


13 posted on 01/26/2012 7:35:14 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
While I respect the sentiment...

I don't have to have been a Police Officer and fired at by criminals during the course of my duty to be able to condemn Police actions that destroy the faith of the local community in their ability to maintain law and order.

I don't have to have been a Prison Guard and caught up in a prison riot during the course of my duty to be able to condemn prisoner abuse.

I don't so much condemn the Marines for urinated upon dead Taliban - it was stupid but unlikely to cause much harm - but FILMING it and POSTING THE FILM makes these Marines too stupid for words and a detriment to the good service of more intelligent Marines.

The Romans had an idea of two opposing Military virtues - virtus or vitality/manliness - and discipline. These Marines - in an excess of virtus - lost essential discipline and dishonored their comrades in arms. Mostly by being so idiotic as to post a propaganda victory for the enemy, and possibly the end of their career as a Marine.

14 posted on 01/26/2012 7:37:26 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Thanks.

I've kind of plateaued on the recovery now...but I am able to walk fairly well and get to work and provide for my family. I am so grateful to a merciful God in Heaven and Savior whose will kept me here for a time and for all the prayers and faith on my and my family's behalf.

MY BATTLE WITH SACRAL CHORDOMA - MALIGNANT BONE CANCER OF THE SPINE

IMHO, Alan West is a modern American patriot and hero like Patrick Henry.

15 posted on 01/26/2012 7:38:59 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: elcid1970

Amen. He and Newt or Santorum would be a GREAT ticket.


16 posted on 01/26/2012 7:40:16 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Albion Wilde

The other day there was an article where Newt was proposing West for VP.


17 posted on 01/26/2012 7:42:26 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Jeff Head
Correct spelling is Allen.
18 posted on 01/26/2012 7:52:53 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: elcid1970

Alan West is terrific, just what America, all of America....and especially what Black Americans need!!!! Sad....that the overwhewlming majority of Black Americans, just don’t get how harmful and destructive Obama and his Democrat Party are to their present status, and even...worse... the oncoming future!!!

But......you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him or her drink!!! American Black folk will make their own bed, and....they will sleep in what they, themselves have wrought, continuing misery, dependence and “Plantation Slave” economics. Sad, for them, but....even sadder for their present and future children!!! Some folks, just never learn!!! Go figure!!!


19 posted on 01/26/2012 7:58:56 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Jeff Head

Allen West:

“...illegal immigration — the operative word is ‘illegal’. It also says here in Article 1 Section 8 [reading from Constitution] that you have to repel invasions. I think that anytime someone is coming across your border and they haven’t been invited, that can be considered what the founding fathers wrote as an invasion into your country.”

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/28/allen-west-illegal-immigration-could-be-considered-an-invasion/


20 posted on 01/26/2012 8:06:50 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!Ho)
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To: Jeff Head
This is essentially of a duplicate thread. This one was posted over a week ago, and has 50 replies:

Take it from Allen West on Marine urination flap: ‘War is hell’

21 posted on 01/26/2012 8:07:12 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Jeff Head

Excellent! Good one, Jeff Head!


22 posted on 01/26/2012 8:12:28 AM PST by TEXOKIE (... and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all FREEPERS EVERYWHERE!)
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To: Jeff Head
I must admit that I haven't heard or read anything about two of our Air Assault soldiers being beheaded.

How'd I miss that?!



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

And finally, this, dedicated to the one and only rdb2, whose eyes are growing dim.

Either way, the violin is sweet yet LETHAL.

Do it!

23 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:01 AM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Well, I have great hopes that the majority of them will ultimately recognize the harm being done them, and get off the reservation. With folks like West, Rice, Thomas, Keyes, etc., etc. to look at, and the message getting out, more and more, over time will turn away from the entitlement/dependency syndrome to self dependance and responsibility.

If we could get 12-16 years of Hosue, Senate and Executive control, we would make HUGE strides in that area as we rolled back the evil the DNC and libs have perpetrated. This would mean new judges, repealed/over-turned legislation, canned agencies, etc., etc.

That’s my hope and Dream.


24 posted on 01/26/2012 8:19:35 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: patriot08

He understands American interests and will be a champion for them at every turn...including the borders.

I’d love to see him and Newt run together, win this thing, and then have Newt for eight years, followed by West for eight more.


25 posted on 01/26/2012 8:21:24 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

And an afghan soldier turned on french soldiers and killed around 5 people. When they interrogated him he cited this urination incident as the reason which infuriated him to the point of doing what he did. Listing examples of what they did to our people means dick. If the enemy does something wedont agree with, or is not in our principles, we dont turn around and do the same thing. We are meant to be held at a higher standard.


26 posted on 01/26/2012 8:23:49 AM PST by hannibaal
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To: Jeff Head
In a saner time, the Marines merely would have scalped the Talibunnies and displayed those scalps on an effigy pole. Or deposited tobacco spittle on their foreheads like this guy did:
27 posted on 01/26/2012 8:25:31 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mvpel

Great, glad to see the word being spread by as many means as possible. That thread was from a different source and did not include the whole statement by West in the head of the thread.

I’m glad the word is getting out and being seen by as many people as possible.


28 posted on 01/26/2012 8:25:52 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: rdb3
Their checkpoint was attacked and they were taken...three altogether. Two were tortured and slaughtered, the thrid killed as well.

HERE's a link to the Story

I believe these are the ones Colonel West is talking about.

29 posted on 01/26/2012 8:30:36 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: hannibaal

1st, our troops didn’t do the “same thing”, or anything close.

2nd, no one is saying it is okay. West said they should be reprimanded under article 15, that a letter should be in their files, and that they should apologize to the troops and the country.

So, what you have said does not hold with what has been discussed or recommended by West or others on this thread.

Afghan soldiers have been turning on and killing allied troops the entire time. I would expect them to use that as an excuse, but if they are militant Islamics, their own core beliefs given them all the excuse they desire and they use it all the time.

IMHO, we should go into a place like Afghanistan, land locked and wih no real natural interests for the US, and wage unrestricted and complete war against the Taliban and Islamic Jihadists (like Al Quida) when they attack us, or provide refuge to thsoe who do, and anyone who supports them. Lay them waste...utterly, like we did the Nazis and Imperial Japanese.

Kill them and their leadership without relenting and without excuse.

Then, when we have done so and destroyed their ability to wage war against us away from their hell-hole, withdraw and let them know that if they come out of their hole again and try it again, we’ll be back to double down and do the same in spades.

But that’s just my opinion. Clearly there are a lot of Afghans who are fighting and dieing beside our troops against these people so they can have some measure of freedom. They are going to have to get to the point where they outnumber and defeat their own enemeies themselves...if we can help them do that...fine...otherwise, revert to the scenario I just outlined.


30 posted on 01/26/2012 8:39:55 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: VA_Gentleman

Mine too. We certainly need him now.


31 posted on 01/26/2012 8:39:55 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: little jeremiah
The other day there was an article where Newt was proposing West for VP.

From his lips to God's ear. Either that, or SecDef.

32 posted on 01/26/2012 8:40:18 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Jeff Head

Watch this short video. Start at 1:38:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOfrw648Qg

West states in no uncertain terms that Islam is the enemy-
and ‘moderate’ Muslims don’t exist.
This man is the only one brave enough to tell America the truth.


33 posted on 01/26/2012 8:40:27 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!Ho)
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To: TEXOKIE

Thank you TexOkie...spread the word. West is a very good man.

BTW, I was raised on a small ranch just south of that old Red River, about 20+ miles north and west of Denton, TX. I figured your handle, TEXOKIE would relate.


34 posted on 01/26/2012 8:41:53 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: patriot08
Yes he is willing to speak directly and straight.

...there are others who recognize this and say it, but he is in the position to get the word out.

The left, DNC, and MSM will attack him relentlessly as he goes forward, but I trust God in Heaven to keep him safe and for the people of this nation to have the clear choice to hear, listen and get on board and remove the abject marxist currently in the White House and his enablers in the House and Senate.

35 posted on 01/26/2012 9:01:02 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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