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CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much
Reason ^ | January 23, 2012 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/26/2012 11:11:27 AM PST by neverdem

Back in 2003, responding to a CDC report on binge drinking, I noted that "one man's dinner party is another man's binge—especially if the other man has a degree in public health." Based on more recent survey data, the CDC now warns that "binge drinking* is a bigger problem than previously thought," involving 38 million American adults. That asterisk is well-earned, because the CDC continues to define "binge drinking" as "men drinking 5 or more alcoholic drinks within a short period of time or women drinking 4 or more drinks within a short period of time." If a "short period of time" meant 15 minutes, most Americans (except the ones who are currently binge drinking) probably would agree this pattern of consumption is excessive. But the questionnaire used to generate the CDC's data actually asks about drinks consumed "on an occasion," which could refer to an evening, a day, or a two-week cruise. Even if we pick the shortest of these periods, an after-work cocktail plus a few glasses of wine during dinner, followed by a digestif or nightcap, would be enough to qualify as a binge.

"To a person who drinks several glasses of wine while dining out or during a party with friends," concedes New York Times health writer Tara Parker-Pope, "the idea of consuming four or five drinks in an evening may not sound excessive for the circumstances." But did you know "this level of drinking would typically raise blood alcohol levels to 0.08 percent and make a person legally impaired to drive"? Not only that, but "a large body of evidence shows that drinking at that level is associated with a number of health hazards, including car accidents, injuries, violence and risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease." According to the CDC, this scientific evidence conclusively...

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KEYWORDS: bingedrinking; cdc; healthnazis; nannystate
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1 posted on 01/26/2012 11:11:35 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I currently consider SOTU speeches responsible for binge drinking.

/johnny

2 posted on 01/26/2012 11:18:43 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like the basis for the new “Liberal Nanny State” drinking game!


3 posted on 01/26/2012 11:19:01 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: neverdem
"this level of drinking would typically raise blood alcohol levels to 0.08 percent and make a person legally impaired to drive"?

Ummm...noted. But at what point would the person who has "an after-work cocktail plus a few glasses of wine during dinner, followed by a digestif or nightcap" be inclined to operate a motor vehicle?

On the way from the dining room to the living room?

4 posted on 01/26/2012 11:21:52 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The price of freedom is willingness to do sudden battle anywhere, anytime..." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: neverdem

Bump for later, when at an appropriate time at the end of the workday, I can comment from a knowledgeable perspective.


5 posted on 01/26/2012 11:22:34 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: neverdem
CDC: If You Drink Enough to Enjoy It, You've Had Too Much - I drink enough to get drunk, then I drink some more, how about that CDC?

drinking at that level is associated with a number of health hazards, including car accidents, injuries, violence and risk of contracting a sexually transmitted disease.

Well, that's basically the fun of it, except for the car accidents, I'm not into general mayhem, I like it more focused.

6 posted on 01/26/2012 11:29:05 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
But at what point would the person who has "an after-work cocktail plus a few glasses of wine during dinner, followed by a digestif or nightcap" be inclined to operate a motor vehicle? On the way from the dining room to the living room?

LOL. I'm picturing someone driving around their house in one of those scooters that elderly people use. :)

7 posted on 01/26/2012 11:29:49 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: JRandomFreeper

No kidding! The liqour/beer industries must be doing blockbuster buisness....I would invest in those stocks foor the upcoming year..No matter if Obama wins/loses people will want to either drown their sorrows or celebrate! LOL


8 posted on 01/26/2012 11:30:18 AM PST by jakerobins
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To: NativeSon

I belong to an Italian Citizens Club. If I don’t have four beers in front of me by 7:00. Someone is a cheap bastard.


9 posted on 01/26/2012 11:31:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: neverdem

Yesterday was my gf’s birthday.

We met up at a bar after work and I had two beers.

Then I took her to dinner where we shared a bottle of wine with our meal.

I am a bad American.


10 posted on 01/26/2012 11:42:00 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: massgopguy

I’ve always wanted to belong to a club like that.


11 posted on 01/26/2012 11:45:19 AM PST by BipolarBob (How was I supposed to know crack was so addictive?)
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To: massgopguy

heck, I’m Indian, I’ll drink lighter fluid with an antifreeze chaser


12 posted on 01/26/2012 11:48:38 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: massgopguy

They call it a binge, my family and friends called it “Lunch” (Me included)


13 posted on 01/26/2012 11:49:24 AM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: neverdem

I am a firm believer in moderate drinking which is why I like to get mine in by noon.


14 posted on 01/26/2012 11:49:54 AM PST by M.T. Helmets (All the news that fits.)
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To: neverdem
Three Vodka Martini's Mark Levin doesn't drink ping!


15 posted on 01/26/2012 11:51:18 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: neverdem

I do fit into a group! 1 of 38 million and on a good day I should get credit for 2.


16 posted on 01/26/2012 11:51:41 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: neverdem

Sounds to me like there is a BIG alcohol tax coming. For our own good of course.


17 posted on 01/26/2012 11:51:52 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The damage is too extensive. Burn it down and start over.)
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To: neverdem

I’ve been on a binge since November of 2008.


18 posted on 01/26/2012 11:52:25 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: neverdem
Luckily for me, I usually only have a glass of beer.


19 posted on 01/26/2012 11:53:53 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: rogue yam

I drink to pursue happiness. And I usually obtain it.


20 posted on 01/26/2012 11:55:07 AM PST by 386wt
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To: NativeSon
heck, I’m Indian, I’ll drink lighter fluid with an antifreeze chaser

Ha!

That makes you an honorary Irishman, too.

21 posted on 01/26/2012 11:55:42 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: NativeSon
heck, I’m Indian, I’ll drink lighter fluid with an antifreeze chaser

That sounds like Newfi Screech to me ...

22 posted on 01/26/2012 11:57:19 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: NativeSon

LOL!!!


23 posted on 01/26/2012 11:58:21 AM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: NativeSon
Wait!!

I'm drinking brake fluid right now!!

But I can stop anytime I want!!

24 posted on 01/26/2012 11:59:55 AM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I’m Irish, Scottish, and part Cherokee on my dad’s side (great-great grandpa was full-blooded Indian). German/French on my mom’s side. I’m covered every which way from Sunday ;)


25 posted on 01/26/2012 12:00:21 PM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: neverdem
The More I Drink, The More I Drink
26 posted on 01/26/2012 12:05:21 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; NativeSon

“That makes you an honorary Irishman, too”

I sending him his card his honorary Mick card in the mail as we speak. LOL!


27 posted on 01/26/2012 12:05:24 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Osage Orange
Now THAT’s Funny! (brake fluid) .... but in all seriousness, I'm a booze hound
28 posted on 01/26/2012 12:05:44 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: JRandomFreeper

If Barry had cut his SOTU speech by 5 minutes I would never have had that 4th glass of wine. LOL!!


29 posted on 01/26/2012 12:11:14 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: NativeSon
Well bud.....I like a good glass of wine, and a good beer. Now and again....

Back in the 70's my cousin and I used to buy some cheap wine and drink it. He was some Creek and some Potawatomi, I'm just some Potawatomi. We both liked to drink...but he would get nuts.

It's an Indian thing....

30 posted on 01/26/2012 12:14:05 PM PST by Osage Orange (Sure you can trust the Government. Ask an Indian.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I currently consider SOTU speeches responsible for binge drinking.

I consider zero's presidency responsible. I've sure been drinking a lot more the last three years!

31 posted on 01/26/2012 12:14:15 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: neverdem
[X] is a bigger problem than previously thought,"

Not when X has been redefined to include more "problems".

32 posted on 01/26/2012 12:19:53 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma
"I’m Irish, Scottish, and part Cherokee on my dad’s side (great-great grandpa was full-blooded Indian). German/French on my mom’s side. I’m covered every which way from Sunday ;)"

Good Lord! You don't even have to drink to have an elevated blood alcohol content! ;o)

33 posted on 01/26/2012 12:20:02 PM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Osage Orange
I never really drank when I was young, saw too many examples of "what not to do" but in the past few years I've gone straight to pro.

I have a real low tolerance but once I get my drinkin shoes on.. . look out!

34 posted on 01/26/2012 12:28:37 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: neverdem

What is considered Binge Drinking by the CDC is just getting warmed up here in Wisconsin.


35 posted on 01/26/2012 12:35:05 PM PST by Pardeeville Liberator
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To: Pardeeville Liberator

In the words of Lewis Black...”You guys are professionals”.


36 posted on 01/26/2012 12:36:26 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
But at what point would the person who has "an after-work cocktail plus a few glasses of wine during dinner, followed by a digestif or nightcap" be inclined to operate a motor vehicle?

there's a reason why chose to live where i do- i'm walking distance from 6 bars.
37 posted on 01/26/2012 12:38:43 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Pardeeville Liberator

The CDC speaketh with forked tongue and the truth not in them.


38 posted on 01/26/2012 12:47:59 PM PST by mcshot (Voter fraud will be the doom of the Republic as desired by the Lib Dems.)
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To: SW6906

LOL!

Seriously, my husband knows what kind of day I’ve had if he sees a glass of red wine in my hand when he gets home from work ;)


39 posted on 01/26/2012 12:49:31 PM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: neverdem
Beats the pants off of Crown Royal!! Let er Buck !!! Image and video hosting by TinyPic
40 posted on 01/26/2012 12:54:55 PM PST by Man from Oz
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To: Osage Orange

When I was a kid we all drank Becker beer which was brewed in Ogden, Utah. At 3.2% you really had to pour a ton of it to get the buzz. At age 19 I stopped drinking for about 90 days. Then to my surprise I met a few boys from Utah in Copenhagen who didn’t mind tipping their Carlsberg Light which was also 3.2%. They convinced me it was OK.

Then I found myself with a Danish kid as a partner. He introduced me to Tuborg. I died and went to heaven.

Now it is three Vodka Martini’s before dinner. No wine, no beer.


41 posted on 01/26/2012 1:10:42 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: absolootezer0
there's a reason why chose to live where i do- i'm walking distance from 6 bars.

Sweeeeet.

42 posted on 01/26/2012 1:20:14 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The price of freedom is willingness to do sudden battle anywhere, anytime..." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: neverdem

Alcohol is the cause and solution of all problems.


43 posted on 01/26/2012 1:26:51 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Pardeeville Liberator
IIRC, takes a body about 2 hours to process a serving of C2H5OH. Spread 'em out over a nice long evening and you might approach "legal limit"; heck, you might not even notice appreciable effects.
44 posted on 01/26/2012 1:35:59 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: neverdem
men drinking 5 or more alcoholic drinks within a short period of time

Amatuers. I drank that much on the short drive over to see my in-laws.

45 posted on 01/26/2012 1:45:34 PM PST by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: freedumb2003
Sounds like the basis for the new “Liberal Nanny State” drinking game!

It sounds like somebody at the CDC got paid to write up a paper on something I knew about nearly 50 years.
46 posted on 01/26/2012 2:14:09 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: NativeSon
heck, I’m Indian, I’ll drink lighter fluid with an antifreeze chaser

Funniest post I've seen all day! :)

47 posted on 01/26/2012 4:10:22 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: neverdem

THEY don’t want you to drink.
THEY want you to go to work at your government job.
Go home right after.
Pay your 90% taxes from your taxpayer funded paycheck.
Go to bed. Repeat.

Bars, restaurants, fun, etc.....
not part of the program.


48 posted on 01/26/2012 5:24:07 PM PST by mowowie
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To: NativeSon
What the hell....maybe we should have a drink together!!

HA!!

49 posted on 01/26/2012 5:47:06 PM PST by Osage Orange (Sure you can trust the Government. Ask an Indian.)
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To: Utah Binger
90 days?

Partner?

Vodka?

No wine, beer?

These are good questions.

50 posted on 01/26/2012 5:50:01 PM PST by Osage Orange (Sure you can trust the Government. Ask an Indian.)
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