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Era of Voting for RINOs is Declared Over
Veritas2002 | 01-26-12 | Vanity

Posted on 01/26/2012 11:19:20 AM PST by veritas2002

This morning I authored a Vanity Post declaring that under no circumstance would I vote for Romney.

Even though I am a lifelong Republican and have NEVER voted for a Democrat in my 60+ years, I am finished with the biased liberal media (including Fox) and the Republican establishment selecting my (losing) candidate. Here are some of my reasons:

In 1976, a sitting MODERATE Republican president named Gerald R. Ford ran against a two-bit peanut farming liberal Georgia governor and LOST.

1n 1992, a sitting MODERATE Republican president named George Bush ran against a liberal Arkansas governor with a history of raping and abusing women and LOST.

In 1996 a sitting MODERATE US Republican senator named Robert Dole ran against a sitting liberal president named William (stained blue dress) Clinton who was later impeached and disbarred and LOST.

In 2008, a long-term sitting MODERATE US Republican senator named John McCain ran against a do-nothing jerk US Senator from Illinois whose sole qualifying credential was as a community organizer for ACORN and student of Saul Alinsky and LOST.

And now in 2012, the Republican Party insiders, along with the liberal press are trying to once again pick our candidate - a MODERATE Massachusetts Governor who introduced socialized medicine to his State and guess what my friends...


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To: Grunthor
Once again, please provide the name of a single GOP candidate who hasn't been called a RINO in this forum.

DARE YOU!!!

101 posted on 01/26/2012 2:28:59 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: The_Reader_David
Vote against the RINO in the primary. Vote against the ‘Rat in the general. Repeat as needed.

If you vote for a liberal with an (R) next to their name, you're still voting for a liberal.

And if you support a liberal with an (R) next to their name simply because they have an (R) next to their name, you're telling the GOP that you are fully okay with them shifting to the left.

If the GOP is going to run liberals with (R) next to their names, they need to understand that Conservatives will not support them, end of story.

The idea that a liberal with an (R) next to their name is better than a liberal with a (D) next to their name is a dangerous belief, because both of those liberals want to take you down the road to socialism. It's just a matter of how fast they take you. They're still going to take you down that road.
102 posted on 01/26/2012 2:29:48 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: MissMagnolia

You NAILED it!


103 posted on 01/26/2012 2:30:45 PM PST by veritas2002
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To: Deb

I asked you first.


104 posted on 01/26/2012 2:30:57 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: veritas2002

I’ve always been a card carrying republican but this all out assault on Newt and forcing Romney on us will make me leave the tent. I’m 34 and I know politics is nasty but this is the most coordinated effort to destroy a campaign as I can ever remember. And for what, so we can have Mitt Romney? Have we really sunk so low that we think this jackass is our best shot.


105 posted on 01/26/2012 2:32:32 PM PST by chad_in_georgia
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To: Grunthor

You were responding to my post asking that question, idiot.


106 posted on 01/26/2012 2:32:52 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

America survived 3 years of Obama, and will survive another 5 just fine. Obama is a lousy manager and a mediocre politician, with GOP in control of the House nothing will pass anyway, and in 2014 the usual midterm electorate will increase the GOP majority, even if the economy grows (and it probably will grow at 3%, 3.5% at best). In any case, Romney will not do anything materially different from Obama, and since the real fiscal crisis is about 10-12 years away, the deadlock is the best we should expect in the next presidential cycle or two.

I see no point in voting for Romney, given the choices the second term for Obama may be preferable, and perhaps in 2016 we can have some decent candidates.


107 posted on 01/26/2012 2:33:48 PM PST by ubaldus
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To: Deb

Was your post asking anyone to name someone that has not been called a RINO on FR? Idiot.


108 posted on 01/26/2012 2:37:23 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Grunthor

If that is the description of a Republican, then I guess I am a heartless RINO. I fear I really am a RINO with the direction the party has been moving over the last 2 decades.


109 posted on 01/26/2012 2:37:40 PM PST by nomobs
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To: Grunthor

That was the question that came first, stupid.


110 posted on 01/26/2012 2:39:12 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: nomobs; Deb

If the Repub-Lickin’ Party has gone so far to the left that the elites actually WANT Romney.....then I am the true RINO.


111 posted on 01/26/2012 2:40:07 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Lazamataz
And, frankly, I believe the GOP elite wants exactly that. I believe they want to lose to Obama. I believe some horrible American collapse is very close. And I believe the GOP would rather that the history books note that it was a Democrat at the helm at that time.

I think it is safe to say that both Pub's and Dem's are putting party before country and what you say is as logical a statement as any I have heard.

I think both parties are jockeying for who get's to control how much statism/socialism when trying to rebuild America. After all, it wouldn't possibly occur to them to READ the Constitution every once and a while and re-apply that framework to get us out of the crapper.

112 posted on 01/26/2012 2:43:26 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Deb

Post 111 is the only answer I have for you, short-bus.


113 posted on 01/26/2012 2:49:09 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: veritas2002

If the race winds up being Rombama vs. Obamney, the corrupt establishment can celebrate no matter which “wins”.

Because everything that matters will lose.


114 posted on 01/26/2012 2:52:58 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: The_Reader_David

That approach invariably leads to losers like McCain being the nominee.

Anyone who says that they would vote for the RINO in the general election contributes to making sure that the RINO will be the nominee.


115 posted on 01/26/2012 2:55:23 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: veritas2002

Good analysis.

The only thing is you left out a big government Republican candidate running in 2000 and 2004.


116 posted on 01/26/2012 2:57:27 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
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This pic is not meant at you but at mythbots in general.

I'm not going to vote for Romney for the simple fact the elite want him to be the nominee. They want to keep Obamacare in tact so they can manage it, syphon money from it.

Voting for a Rino is like voting for a democrat.

117 posted on 01/26/2012 2:59:18 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Grunthor
Thanks for admitting you're a moron. As if we didn't already know.

And the original question stands...can you name a Republican candidate who has not been labeled a RINO in this forum?

Answer: No, you can't.

When I have to spend a whole day defending Sarah Palin against FReepers calling her "pro-abortion", things have become insane.

118 posted on 01/26/2012 2:59:36 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Thanks for admitting you’re a moron. As if we didn’t already know.
And the original question stands...can you name a Republican candidate who has not been labeled a RINO in this forum?

Answer: No, you can’t.

When I have to spend a whole day defending Sarah Palin against FReepers calling her “pro-abortion”, things have become insane.


Okay you mental midget, you have answered your own question with the only answer that is acceptable to you.

Now answer MINE.


119 posted on 01/26/2012 3:03:00 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

Mittens has the same plan and ideology as Obama up to and indcluding Romeny/Obamacare, abortion and gay special rights and socially engineered dominance. I won’t vote for Obama and I won’t vote for Romney.


120 posted on 01/26/2012 3:17:23 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ZX12R

“NO to Romney, now and in the future. The GOP can just die for all I care now. Burn the republican party to the ground and stir up the ashes. It is cancer, desperately in need of surgical removal and thrown into the biohazard waste bin.”

AMEN!


121 posted on 01/26/2012 3:42:03 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: caww

“America will be destroyed if Obama wins again.

It will also be destroyed if Romney gets in as well. That’s just the fact”

Along with that fact is the notion that as it is destroyed with a Republican at the helm, it’s all the Republican’s fault,,,so no hope EVER of resurrecting Republican ideals.

No thanks!


122 posted on 01/26/2012 3:44:29 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: Leofl

“Even if the obamessiah wins, a constitutional congress can hold the line against an anti-american president and maybe we can take the next 4 years to build the constitutional party we desire. “

You know, I used to think so. Buttttttt,,the way Obama grabs power,,means to me that he would certainly circumvent any resistance that SHOULD come from the balance of powers. He has already proved he is more than willing to do that, even though his party holds the Senate. Obama does NOT care about the implications,,only the power and he urges the little people (you and me) to fight each other to figure out who wins. The man is slime!


123 posted on 01/26/2012 3:47:11 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: ichabod1

‘We need a guy like Ron Paul to lead us!”

I’m sorry but Dr Paul (God bless him!) can’t lead himself to the end of a sentence let alone lead a country. I like a LOT of what he has to say and hope he has a place in our country’s leadership in the future. I just can’t get behind him as a leader now,,,sorry.


124 posted on 01/26/2012 3:50:24 PM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: veritas2002
So Newt voted for Dole and defended him, he probably could say ... I no more could denounce Dole, than denouncing the Republican party contribution to the insanity
125 posted on 01/26/2012 4:10:35 PM PST by frank46
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To: VU4G10

Is it a tell? Obama Hussain drinks only water cos he’s a Muslim?


126 posted on 01/26/2012 4:14:06 PM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: JediJones

Hate to tell you, but Reagan got over 50 percent in 1980.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1980


127 posted on 01/26/2012 4:15:10 PM PST by Luke21
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To: tankrlm
We can thank all of those who don’t vote for letting Obama win again.

Then I guess your welcome. I will not spend a micro-second considering a vote for Romney, because this country is finished if either Obama or Romney gets elected. We have too many serious social and economic problems for any milquetoast moderate like Romney, or a communist like Obama. One will not be able to stop it, and the other one wants it to happen.

Warts and all, only Newt Gingrich has the balls and the brains to do what needs done. He is my warrior to go to Washington, and today the media and GOP displayed their fear of him.

This is my line in the sand. I'm not holding my nose for a candidate ever again. NO ROMNEY
128 posted on 01/26/2012 4:19:10 PM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: Luke21

Oh, cool, thanks. Not sure where I got the wrong idea from. I’m sorry I discredited Ronnie’s record.


129 posted on 01/26/2012 4:25:49 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: veritas2002

I’ve taken the no RINO’s pledge myself.


130 posted on 01/26/2012 4:54:08 PM PST by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: CharlotteVRWC
We can thank all of those who don’t vote for letting
Obama win again.

Wrong!! Blame the GOP for nominating a liberal. Not those that vote their conscience. Or better yet blame the “go along to get along” voters that support whatever RINO the GOP forces on us and allowing them to keep pushing these less than conservative candidates on us cycle after cycle. The GOP elite would rather be in charge of a rump party, than actually take the fight to the enemy. So screw them!! I'm done with being told to shut up and vote for who we say to or it's your fault if we lose. F that!!!

McLame was the last RINO. I'd rather be the loyal opposition, than relegated to the backwaters of the GOP, because the RINO elite are in charge. Which is what will happen to Conservatives if Mitt wins.

131 posted on 01/26/2012 5:03:22 PM PST by skully (I don't need no steenking tagline!!)
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To: biggerten
In 1976, Republicans were being punished for Nixon and Ford’s pardon of Nixon. The Democrats could have put up a weak leader with poor ideas and still win, wait, they did do that.

In 1992, there was a populist little bugger from Texas with big ears named Perot who screwed things up. Not that Bush was perfect, but he did give us Clarence Thomas, a great Supreme pick.

In 1996, war hero Bob Dole, who literally gave his right arm for the country, took one on the chin for the Republicans because nobody was going to beat Clinton that year.

One can find explanations and rationalize almost anything. I voted for Newt yesterday in Florida's advance voting primary; my wife voted for him today. Not only because has presented actual plans that have a high probability for success in turning around the economy and reversing some of the trends toward socialism, but more so because he's willing to attack those who make personal attacks on him, and because his attacks actual have basis behind them, and defensible when considering facts and logic rather than innuendo and emotion. Newt exercises sound judgment and does not change his positions based solely on polling. Newt has some backbone; he's not a playground bully as is Mitt.

132 posted on 01/26/2012 5:34:36 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: veritas2002
There are few republicans who are running for president or have been in the race or have been mentioned who I would not vote for. I've posted on FR that I would vote for DeMint, Palin, Cain, Bachmann, Newt, Perry, or Santorum. There are several others I'd be willing if not happy to vote for. But leftist Mitt Romney? The father of RomneyCare? The big government gun grabber? No, thank you.

If Romney is the GOP nominee, I will write in another name, but I will not vote for Romney. I will, however, vote. I'll vote for the most conservative Congress I can get, to restrain whichever big government leftist we get stuck with. I'll vote with my dollars as I go Galt to an even greater degree. Romney is simply unacceptable, and I pray we won't have to face that terrible election night, when neither outcome would be acceptable.

133 posted on 01/26/2012 6:29:03 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: VU4G10

gremlin


134 posted on 01/26/2012 6:53:38 PM PST by mowowie
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To: CharlotteVRWC
America will be destroyed if Obama wins again.

Let me clue you in. America is dead now. The coroner simply hasn't filled out the certificate listing exact time and cause of death.

The odds are 90+% that we are going to have an economic meltdown. And well before 2016. How it will play out, depression or social chaos? No one knows. But it will be uglier than the 30s.

If I thought there was even a small chance that a liberal flip flopping RINO named Romney could prevent that happening, I'd consider voting for him. His policies won't do a thing except ensure that a "Republican" is in office when the collapse hits. He couldn't stand up for a principle if he could recognize one. Which he can't. And he sure as hell isn't going to stand up to the Democrats or the media machine backing them. He'd be nothing but an appeaser to their demands.

It is going to take a miracle to even slow down the death of this republic. Newt is not a miracle, but he's all we have. And I believe that it is possible (though not probable) that he would show some hidden depths and strengths were he to be elected. Romney is a caricature of a leader.

And, as a cold hard matter of reality, Romney absolutely cannot win. I knew McCain (the lying back stabber) couldn't win, but I voted for him. Not doing that again.

135 posted on 01/26/2012 8:43:51 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump!


136 posted on 01/26/2012 8:46:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Night Hides Not

“That was Bob Dole before Viagra. He’s still a coot, though. “

I think the real reason he was using that Viagra was so he didn’t roll out of bed at night.


137 posted on 01/26/2012 8:55:49 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

I was only listing the LOSERS. I agree with you about Bush. he was a disappointment to me. That’s why his brother would not be an acceptable candidate either. Besides, I loathe the abortion loving Barbara Bush.


138 posted on 01/26/2012 9:00:13 PM PST by veritas2002
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To: CharlotteVRWC
a non-vote is a vote for Obama.

No, it isn't. It's simply a non-vote. Things are what they are.
139 posted on 01/26/2012 9:32:24 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: houeto
Yes, and it will probably get BITS ugly. Bring it. No Mitt! No Way!

Wow you sure are brave now. Let's see how you act if things really did hit the fan.

140 posted on 01/26/2012 9:36:44 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: tankrlm
We can thank all of those who don’t vote for letting Obama win again.

But first we should thank the GOP Establishment for demoralizing the base to the point that they don't vote.

141 posted on 01/26/2012 9:42:03 PM PST by kevao
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To: vmivol00
I will never vote for Romney. I’m finished with the lesser of two evils BS.

AMEN.
142 posted on 01/26/2012 9:43:37 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

I frankly at this point do not care if Obama wins again. The establishment
keeps choosing our candidates because we in the end go out and vote
for them. They all figure where else are we going to go!!!!! Well I for one
will absolutely NOT be any part of Romney winning. If we do not take a
stand we just have given up our very rights to choose our government!!!!


143 posted on 01/26/2012 9:48:04 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: veritas2002

I will vote for a third party spoiler.

Trump even.

I am done with the GOP nationally if Mitt is forced on us..no way.


144 posted on 01/26/2012 9:52:22 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Jim Robinson; dixiechick2000; Patton@Bastogne; Gator113; County Agent Hank Kimball; TBBT; ...
I absolutely will NOT vote for or support the abortionist/statist socialist healthcare pushing Mitt Romney under any circumstances whatsoever!!

Amen...for the first time in 8 elections for POTUS I will sit it out or vote a third party if Mitt Romney is forced on us.

I will help conservatives in state and local as usual

I used to think folks here like tpaine and OWK and Mertz and Willie who always said this were nuts...and they were maybe ..lol...but I am now to the end of my tolerance for the GOP if they give us a pro abortion, pro gun control, pro homosexual agenda, stands for nothing candidate.

and I have been broken glass and a financial supporter like my daddy and his daddy going back even to Dewey and beyond

I remember the Goldwater yardsigns and my home is decorated with pics of my dad with Magnus and other notables like Fred etc...so this is not something I take lightly

But till this moment I never realized how unconservative so much of the GOP hierarchy and punditry actually are. They are just less liberal than the Dems and only pay token lip service to we who elect them. They are certainly not social conservatives as we know it.

The past 48 hours have been nothing short of an epiphany. We need to strike back and hard...fierce.

145 posted on 01/26/2012 10:05:07 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Deb; Grunthor; veritas2002

Sarah Palin has been critiqued..even by me ..but never called a RINO

Louie Gohmert...never to my knowledge

Saint Jesse Helms...lol...I doubt it..I mean seriously?

Bachmann...not to my knowledge..she has been labeled angling for Romney VP slot but never called RINO

Allen West has never been called RINO I can assure you

DeMint ..only when he failed to criticize Mitt

there are more...

problem is dearest...many of the GOP sans the teaparty newbies are RINOS..as well as most the punditry

that has been made crystal clear past 48 hours


146 posted on 01/26/2012 10:12:42 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: wardaddy

Post 15. It devolved from there. I’m still waiting for her to answer my question.


147 posted on 01/26/2012 10:20:54 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: ichabod1

Yes, there is a party called the Constitution Party. It was started by Howard Phillips in 1991.


148 posted on 01/26/2012 10:31:50 PM PST by kevinw
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To: Jim Robinson; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; STARWISE; The Cajun

Romney and Rove’s GOP is little different from the demonic-rats, so he// no I won’t vote for or support “the abortionist/statist socialist healthcare pushing Mitt Romney under any circumstances whatsoever!!”

GO NEWT!
GO TEA PARTY!
GO FREE REPUBLIC!


149 posted on 01/26/2012 11:05:29 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: pallis
Excellent and spot-on point there. I'm afraid some here won't 'get it' though.

"No telling who we will get, Obama, Gore, Kerry, maybe Barney Frank’s lover. At least we won’t get unsuitable Republicans."

150 posted on 01/26/2012 11:08:45 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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