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Era of Voting for RINOs is Declared Over
Veritas2002 | 01-26-12 | Vanity

Posted on 01/26/2012 11:19:20 AM PST by veritas2002

This morning I authored a Vanity Post declaring that under no circumstance would I vote for Romney.

Even though I am a lifelong Republican and have NEVER voted for a Democrat in my 60+ years, I am finished with the biased liberal media (including Fox) and the Republican establishment selecting my (losing) candidate. Here are some of my reasons:

In 1976, a sitting MODERATE Republican president named Gerald R. Ford ran against a two-bit peanut farming liberal Georgia governor and LOST.

1n 1992, a sitting MODERATE Republican president named George Bush ran against a liberal Arkansas governor with a history of raping and abusing women and LOST.

In 1996 a sitting MODERATE US Republican senator named Robert Dole ran against a sitting liberal president named William (stained blue dress) Clinton who was later impeached and disbarred and LOST.

In 2008, a long-term sitting MODERATE US Republican senator named John McCain ran against a do-nothing jerk US Senator from Illinois whose sole qualifying credential was as a community organizer for ACORN and student of Saul Alinsky and LOST.

And now in 2012, the Republican Party insiders, along with the liberal press are trying to once again pick our candidate - a MODERATE Massachusetts Governor who introduced socialized medicine to his State and guess what my friends...


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To: arderkrag; All
Actually, yes...it is. Anyone that sits this election out is handing it over to our "enemy within".

We're gonna need EVERYONE that is not a rabid leftist to vote AGAINST Obama in this November election.

This is the exact same kind of crap/bullshit I read here right before the 2006 election ...which, as a consequence, gave us Nazi Pelosi and Dirty Harry Reid and the resultant housing market collapse...kicking off the recession depression we're now in.

People please....wake up and smell the reality of the deja vu crucial situation we're in here! We can NOT let Obama win a second term. It really IS a matter now of life or death. Our death, that is.

a non-vote is a vote for Obama.

No, it isn't. It's simply a non-vote. Things are what they are.

151 posted on 01/26/2012 11:20:14 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: XenaLee
We're gonna need EVERYONE that is not a rabid leftist to vote AGAINST Obama in this November election.

Yes, because "Just-winism" has worked out SO WELL so far...take your "lesser of two evils" mentality and pawn it off on someone born yesterday - because I wasn't. I refuse to hold my nose and vote. I don't vote AGAINST anyone. I vote for people I agree with. If there isn't one running then I don't vote.
152 posted on 01/26/2012 11:36:40 PM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: ichabod1

“We need a guy like Ron Paul to lead us!”

Moderates will not go for Ron Paul’s agenda. and defense conservatives(A major component of the Republican base) will never go for his radical isolationist rhetoric.

If Ron Paul wants to run on the republican ticket he needs to moderate his pitch in theses areas. Otherwise hes running for the wrong party nomination.

As for Mitt i think he can beat Obama and is clearly not as liberal as people make him out to be. His commitment to smaller Federal Goverment rhetorically is not inconsistent with his actions & even policy’s at the state level. This is for the simple reason that state Governments are empowered and thus potentially capable of doing a much if not most of what Washington D.C. cannot and should not.

I don’t pretend to call his State policy’s wise in Massachusetts but it was in fact Massachusetts a state, NOT Washington D.C. We must never forget that vital distinction.
It is indeed ill-rational for we who support states rights to in any way equate the two.


153 posted on 01/26/2012 11:56:33 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: veritas2002

Oh, the ‘era’ is over.

So I can count on your worthless butts to back my ass up as it pertains to my tag-line?

If NOT, then just what era is over? Your sorry assed voting for whom? Or just what is over?


154 posted on 01/27/2012 12:00:50 AM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: ichabod1

The post above yours stated:

the rebellion is on!

What rebellion? Against whom? What you got?

I got my tag-line. What you got?


155 posted on 01/27/2012 12:04:13 AM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Monorprise

No. We - as if Free Republic community forum is the only needer - needs somebody with a brain to lead “us”.


156 posted on 01/27/2012 12:09:38 AM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: wardaddy; Jim Robinson

WOW! You guys were reading my mind!

This has been the most disgusting primary/caucus season I’ve ever seen. Romney’s folks are in their prime, and have some supposedly “conservative” recruits who have surprised me a great deal.

I held my nose and voted for Dole. I was so disgusted with Bush during his second term that I resigned from the Republican party. I swore that, during the last election when I voted for McCain, that would be the last time I would hold my nose and vote.

I will NOT hold my nose for them ever again.

They are on their own, as far as I’m concerned.

“tpaine and OWK and Mertz and Willie”

I tend to agree with you, except for Willie. Light rail is an expensive boondoggle, and Willie never, ever would agree with that. Good guy, though.

One more thing, voting for Romney is not much better than voting for Obama.


157 posted on 01/27/2012 12:10:46 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork.)
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To: XenaLee

“Anyone that sits this election out is handing it over to our “enemy within”.”

I can’t tell you how many times in my lifetime that I’ve heard that, and obeyed it.

There comes a time when one has to take a stand, and this is the time for that.

Voting for Romney is voting for Obama’s goals, just at a slower pace.

Don’t you get that?


158 posted on 01/27/2012 12:16:02 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork.)
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To: raygun
Turncoats Faux, Rove, Drudge, et al, be damned!! We are the resistance!!
by Jim Robinson (excerpt)


One by one, the so-called conservative news channels, talkers, pundits, authors, blogs, etc, are falling in league with the GOP establishment elite, stabbing conservatism and our leading tea party conservative candidates in the back.

Drudge, Beck, Coulter, Faux News, Rove, Tyrell, NRO, etc, are all now deeply in the tank for the northeastern limousine liberal Mitt Romney!!

Free Republic is one of the few remaining conservative sites still defiantly standing for God, Country, Family, Life & Liberty with the tea party and with Newt and resisting the headlong slide into socialist tyranny.

RomneyCare = ObamaCare = CommieCare = taxpayer funded abortion = death panels = socialism = tyranny. That's really all you need to know about Romney.

Mark Levin, Michael Reagan, NewsMax, Rush Limbaugh, et al, are all telling it how it really is. Romney and the establishment are orchestrating their subversive attacks on the pro-life, small government, strong defense Reagan conservative, Newt Gingrich, with grotesque distortions of historical fact and disgusting lies!!

We are reposting these reports in our news forums as they are released.

We are the resistance!!

Rebellion is ON!!


159 posted on 01/27/2012 12:24:00 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: arderkrag
Yeah....and it is that exact same attitude that got us where we are today...

SCREWED.

Thanks, awfully.

No, really. I mean it sincerely.

"Yes, because "Just-winism" has worked out SO WELL so far...take your "lesser of two evils" mentality and pawn it off on someone born yesterday - because I wasn't. I refuse to hold my nose and vote. I don't vote AGAINST anyone. I vote for people I agree with. If there isn't one running then I don't vote."

160 posted on 01/27/2012 1:04:57 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: dixiechick2000
What I get ....that apparently others here can't get... is that sitting home and NOT voting against Obama will only get us four more years of this same shit....

which literally WILL be the death of us all.

Do YOU get it? Apparently not.

"I can’t tell you how many times in my lifetime that I’ve heard that, and obeyed it.

There comes a time when one has to take a stand, and this is the time for that.

Voting for Romney is voting for Obama’s goals, just at a slower pace.

Don’t you get that?"

161 posted on 01/27/2012 1:10:59 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: veritas2002
>"have NEVER voted for a Democrat in my 60+ years,"

Ya sure? Mc Lame really aint a Republican ya know.

162 posted on 01/27/2012 1:32:16 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: XenaLee

I don’t know how old you are, and I don’t know how many elections in which you’ve been a participant.

I’m old...I’ve heard this crap from the elitists in DC most of my life. The very fact that Coulter, Talent, Rove, Sununu, Abrams, (especially Drudge) et al, would go nuclear on the day of the debate tells me all I need to know about them.

They aren’t about electing the best candidate, and they don’t care about this country.

They are all about electing the candidate who is best for them, and preserving their power.

Newt wouldn’t be good for them, but Romney has spread the wealth.


163 posted on 01/27/2012 1:33:48 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork.)
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To: veritas2002

Funny but not surprising how you make no mention of Dubya the RINO. All the teethnashing around here regarding the primary meltdowns and yet there is near total silence as to Bush’s reign of error. To put it another way, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, Amnesty etc etc put the GOP where it is today; in trouble. The first step to solving any problem is admitting there is one - Dubya needs to be repudiated.


164 posted on 01/27/2012 4:14:14 AM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: dainbramaged

12?

No problem-—I was a 16 year old Goldwater Kid in ‘64 and we appreciated all the support we could get.

Actually, I started in this nasty stuff at 12 myself, passing out Nixon buttons (yeah, he was a RINO but that’s what we had back then until Barry got going.)


165 posted on 01/27/2012 4:51:22 AM PST by Scanian
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To: veritas2002

I couldn’t agree more with your post. I’m staying home if mittens is the nominee. I have never seen such a coordinated attack by the GOP-e, media (including Our media like drudge) like the attack on newt. The GOP can go to hell


166 posted on 01/27/2012 5:02:06 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: veritas2002
IMHO...the way I see it is this:

Since there is not a "NO" block to be checked on the national election ballot (and there should be), we all have three choices.

1. vote for whatever rino is on the ballot,
2. vote AGAINST the stain and the current regime (this means, unfortunately, that one is then FORCED to vote for the rino), or
3. Don't vote.

Both selections 1 & 2 mean a vote AGAINST the stain and the current regime.

The third choice means - in actuality - a vote FOR the stain and the current regime.

It comes down to this: if you do not go to the polls and choose, you eliminate one vote for the right wing and by definition the left (that would be the stain and the current regime) gains a vote.

Believe me, the folks over on DU are counting on just this! Think of it this way: a failure to vote puts one solidly in the camp of the stain supporters; all those college kids, the rabble seen in WI recently, the oh-so-smarmy soccer mommies, little chrissy mathews, keith old-er-man, rachel maddow, geogre sorros, the illegal aliens, the welfare recipients, and the like. Are you really sure you want to join and then support those groups???

And once the stain and his team begin to spend real money on this campaign, you're going to see a decided trend being forced down the right's throat to "just stay home".

Simple, really. A "stay at home" non-choice is a vote FOR the stain and the current regime.

I will die before I contemplate doing that.

167 posted on 01/27/2012 5:04:07 AM PST by Logic n' Reason ("To keep you is no benefit; to kill you is no loss.")
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To: ZX12R

“Obama is a Marxist. Newt and Mitt aren’t Marxists....”

Mitt is a marxist, look at his voting record...! Rush is wrong on this...!!!


168 posted on 01/27/2012 5:07:36 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101
“Obama is a Marxist. Newt and Mitt aren’t Marxists....”

Mitt is a marxist, look at his voting record...! Rush is wrong on this...!!!

I agree with you. And just for the record, that top quote is not mine. I DID NOT SAY THAT!!!! LOL!
169 posted on 01/27/2012 5:27:01 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: XenaLee

Just-winism got us where we are. Place your blame correctly. People need more reasons to vote than “BEAT THE OTHER GUYS, THEY’RE MORE EVIL THAN US!!!!”


170 posted on 01/27/2012 5:27:55 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: ZX12R

I so sorry....! My bad...!


171 posted on 01/27/2012 6:21:17 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: veritas2002

I can see all sort of problems with Gingrich and his record, I disagree with Paul on several fundamental issues, and I think Santorum lacks the charisma to do well nationally. But, unfortunately, the establishment thinks the answer to our problems is to reelect Gerald Ford.


172 posted on 01/27/2012 7:14:52 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: veritas2002

What we have is a constitutional crisis. What the U.S. has to offer the world is limited government. We need to return to that and solvency. Vote Ron Paul!


173 posted on 01/27/2012 7:53:33 AM PST by Judges Gone Wild
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To: Judges Gone Wild; Admin Moderator

You haven’t been on last since last June, and your first couple of posts since then are Paultard posts? Really?


174 posted on 01/27/2012 8:04:20 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: Monorprise

OK, I shouldn’t say this because I don’t want to get in trouble with the powers that be, but... He’d probably do ok. If we had him and a strong, radically conservative congress, he would probably do as he was told. Many of us, though, remember the way Newt can take the ball and run it up the middle, if you’ll forgive the football analogy. Would he be “a different idea every day?” Maybe. On the other hand, I think he is a much more thoughtful man than he was back in the day. He wouldn’t be where he is now if he wasn’t. He’s been thinking about this run for at least five years because, as you know, he gave it careful consideration in ‘08. He is the one that seems to understand that the day of the status quo ante is OVER. The day of stare decisis is OVER. The Cafeteria is Closed. We are at war, and we are fighting now over our own land. We MUST win, we MUST prevail, if we are to survive, and I don’t think Mitt gets that. He seems to realize it’s a tough time, yes, but not that the survival of our very nation is at stake.


175 posted on 01/27/2012 8:24:55 AM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: austinaero

I was being a little sarcastic. We need a leader who embodies much of what Dr. Paul believes, but with a conservative twist. I’ve always had a feeling that Dr. Paul would let us go down the crapper before he would violate one of his principles. The constitution is not a suicide pact. That’s why we have to OUTLAW some of this unconstitutional dissent. The part that rants about destroying us. That part. I call for the crime of Treason to once again be taken seriously.


176 posted on 01/27/2012 8:30:04 AM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Gingrich)
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To: KantianBurke

You missed my point. I was providing a list of all RINOs who LOST elections.
I am not defending Bush but as I recall he won two elections: one against Gore and the other against Kerry.


177 posted on 01/27/2012 8:35:50 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: Jim Robinson

++++++++I absolutely will NOT vote for or support the abortionist/statist socialist healthcare pushing Mitt Romney under any circumstances whatsoever!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7OQoBxZZPqU

The elite GOP establishment can KMA!!

NO MORE RINOS!!

We are the resistance!!

Rebellion is ON!!

Go, Newt!!+++++++++

When We The People are not able to choose are our own candidate we are no longer a republic and now have morphed into some liberal/fascist oligarchical hell.

I agree on firm principal the only alternative is to support those that hold our values whether third party, presidential, congress, governor or local mayor.

We are where we are now because we have compromised ourselves into this situation so we now potentially have a candidate chosen by the elite oligarchy who for most intent and purposes is a liberal socialist and ideologically identical to the democrat opponent.

This is my limit - NO MORE!


178 posted on 01/27/2012 8:37:07 AM PST by underbyte (TEOTEWAKI)
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To: chargers fan
Wow you sure are brave now. Let's see how you act if things really did hit the fan.

I truly belive that we are all going to find out and it will not be 'acting'. It will be survival instinct.

179 posted on 01/27/2012 9:00:48 AM PST by houeto
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To: Cboldt
[-- America will be destroyed if Obama wins again. --]

The worst that happens would probably be a good thing, collapse of the federal government and ascension of the states to fill the vacuum.

Not so. If Fed gov't collapses, then those currently in power, (think 0bozo) will seize the military and will declare that the constitution is void, and will create their own idea of gov't. Prove to me that this is not their plan already.

"Oath Keepers" or not, soldiers do what they are ordered to do. I for one, do not want to be downrange.

180 posted on 01/27/2012 9:57:36 AM PST by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: Leep
Let the new world order begin! I think about going on Welfare so I can get me some a peice of that pie. While it last. Maybe sell a little crack on the side?

Kinda reminds me of Catch-22. When the world is crazy, then crazy advice suddenly seems less crazy.

Yossarian: Those bastards are trying to kill me.
1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: No one is trying to kill you sweetheart. Now eat your dessert like a good boy.
Yossarian: Oh yeah? Then why are they shooting at me Milo?
Dobbs: They're shooting at everyone Yossarian.
Yossarian: And what difference does that make?
Dobbs: Look Yossarian, suppose, I mean just suppose everyone thought the same way you do.
Yossarian: Then I'd be a damn fool to think any different.



181 posted on 01/27/2012 10:23:03 AM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: veritas2002

Agree, can’t vote for Romney. If they run another one next go around I’m not voting for whoever that is either.8 Years of Mittens would do us in. That would mean 12 years of socialists running the country. If Obama is re-elected we can try and stop the slide at 8. Also Romney is not a moderate. He is a big time liberal democrat, the fix is in.


182 posted on 01/27/2012 10:25:24 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: veritas2002

Agree, can’t vote for Romney. If they run another one next go around I’m not voting for whoever that is either.8 Years of Mittens would do us in. That would mean 12 years of socialists running the country. If Obama is re-elected we can try and stop the slide at 8. Also Romney is not a moderate. He is a big time liberal democrat, the fix is in.


183 posted on 01/27/2012 10:27:52 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: faucetman

Agree the republican party must be destroyed if they give us Mitt. Don’t let the slime weesel back in the door either because they have money. Keep the liberals out.

Either way a conservative 3rd party is needed along with true conservative news. Only a matter of time before the gov’t tries to silence rebellion on the internet imo. Hopefully not, but we all know all they care about is their power.


184 posted on 01/27/2012 10:51:56 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: veritas2002

Another party is needed and now is the time to do it. When the 3rd party rises to power cut the elites off at the knees by taking their money. That would help end the elite world media that portrays itself as American, they are not. And we could get on with building a great nation again. The rich republicans have had their shot. Now it is time for ours.


185 posted on 01/27/2012 11:03:05 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: Judges Gone Wild; Jim Robinson
Vote Ron Paul!

Um...two RuPaul boostering posts today? You're pressing your luck.

186 posted on 01/27/2012 12:50:23 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: wardaddy
(***murp***) You are wrong, wd. Sarah has been called everything, including and especially, RINO, in this forum. Check any Bachmann thread. As has Demint, much to my surprise.

But put down the Jack Daniels and try to pay attention...I said which one of THE CANDIDATES...that would be someone who ran for president in this election cycle. Man or woman. Anyone.

Not past beloved conservative icons or up-and-coming beloved icons. Candidates.

187 posted on 01/27/2012 1:09:10 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Grunthor

You have failed, tiny creature. You could not name a single GOP candidate who has not been labeled a “RINO” in this forum. Deflecting your pathetic incompetence won’t work. Oh, and running to your sandbox playmates won’t work either.


188 posted on 01/27/2012 1:12:36 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Bite me.


189 posted on 01/27/2012 2:46:21 PM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Grunthor

With relish.


190 posted on 01/27/2012 3:11:46 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: veritas2002

“he won two elections”

Barely. And he bears quite a bit of responsibility for Obama’s election in 08.


191 posted on 01/27/2012 6:30:27 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: biggerten

Your Post #8 was spot-on.


192 posted on 01/27/2012 9:53:12 PM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: lonevoice

The United States was the first country with a written constitution that limited the powers of the government. If we don’t keep the politicians to it, we lose everything! The process is our product. If the ends justify the means, then we revert to savagery.


193 posted on 01/27/2012 10:05:51 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild ("A republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: x
When he loses, does he just become one more moderate loser, or do we finally see an end of posts like this with their shaky assumption that the more conservative candidate will always win?

x, you are right over the target. Assumptions are dangerous.



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

And finally, this, dedicated to the one and only rdb2, whose eyes are growing dim.

Either way, the violin is sweet yet LETHAL.

Do it!

194 posted on 01/27/2012 10:37:57 PM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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To: arderkrag

I’ve emerged from my cocoon - a re-born ‘original intenter’!

(and remembered my password)

Question: Which of Clinton’s policies did Bush repeal?

CRA? Nope.
Steagall/Glass repeals? Nope.


195 posted on 01/27/2012 10:42:17 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild ("A republic, if you can keep it." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: XenaLee

I am 60 years old. I’ve seen quite a few elections.

“NOT voting against Obama will only get us four more years of this same shit....”

What you don’t get is that we are being manipulated by the DC crowd. Romney and Obama are a hair apart.

Please refrain from the use of profanity, though that is my sentiment, exactly.


196 posted on 01/28/2012 12:02:47 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help you if I find it.)
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To: ichabod1

Then we’ll call it the American Party...So when any party runs against our candidates, they’ll be running against the “Americans”!!!(I’m not joking...I’m deadly serious!)


197 posted on 01/28/2012 7:02:54 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make man into God but to restore fellowship of the Godhead with man.)
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To: billys kid
Let the chips fall where they may... After that it becomes “GOD’S WAR” against these sniveling little EVIL BASTARDS.

Amen to this. We knew this day had to come sometime, this election cycle may well be the harbinger of what's on the horizon. The left has been inexorable in consolidating power and entrenching themselves. Whole generations have been indoctrinated, and never have so many seen government as the source of all life.
198 posted on 01/28/2012 1:33:17 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: wardaddy

I am doing the same if Romney gets the nomination. Another freeper said, to the effect, let the chips fall where they may, when it comes to the point where we have no choice, it is God’s war. I truly believe the left is consolidating its lock on power through its almost total entrenchment in media and academia. Now we have the ultimate power play-both electoral options are of the left.


199 posted on 01/28/2012 1:44:12 PM PST by mrsmel
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Hell, even Gingrich has some 'splainin' to do!
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200 posted on 04/01/2012 3:23:44 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (I really want Obozo to have another term -- in Leavenworth! 25 to life sounds about right.)
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