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Controversial Book Asks ‘Is Marriage for White People?’
CBS Chicago News ^ | 25 Jan 2012 | None listed

Posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:07 PM PST by SkyPilot

CBS) – The single life is a challenge for many people – dating and finding the right romantic partner are not easy. But for one segment of the population, it is even more difficult, according to a new and controversial book.

CBS 2’s Jim Williams takes a look at “Is Marriage for White People?” by Stanford University professor Ralph Richard Banks.

Danielle Smith, 38, and Tiffiney Ross, 29, seem to have it all. They are attractive, well-educated and have successful careers. But we asked them, where are the men?

That’s what I keep asking myself every day,” Smith said. “I don’t know where they are.”

We wondered what the dating scene was like for Ross.

“There isn’t one,” she said. “I’m dating absolutely no one.”

They are not dating, so chances for marriage seem slimmer.

“I don’t even think about meeting someone,” Smith said. “That’s how disillusioned I’ve become.”

Smith and Ross, both African American, are not unusual according to the book “Is Marriage for White People?”

Stanford University Law professor Ralph Richard Banks writes black women are more than three times as likely to never marry as white women.

Why? Because Banks says the pool of black men available to them is smaller.

“Ten percent of black men are in prison,” Banks said in an interview with CBS 2. “Black men have much higher unemployment rates; much higher school dropout rates than other groups.”

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This article is sure to ellicit fireworks, because the subject is so sensitive and raw.

First, I believe it can be demonstrated by statistical fact that a far greater percentage of white women date black men than white men who date black women.

To put it another way, (in the whole) most white men just don't prefer black women.

I believe it is the ultimate status symbol for a black man to have a white blong blue eyed wife on his arm. Black men who prefer to date or marry white women say overwhelmingly that they find white women more supportive and nurturing than black women.

The family used to be the bedrock of foundation in the black community. It has been destroyed.

God intended that men and women should get married - period. There isn't anything in scripture about "white people" and "black people" and different rules.

Here is my advice: men, pull your pants up, get a job, and love your wives.........women, keep your knees together until marriage, and love and forgive your husband as God has forgiven you.

1 posted on 01/26/2012 8:03:10 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
most white men just don't prefer black women.

Count me as an exception. My last girlfriend was black. My last wife was native american. And I'm fish-belly white.

I'm a single, celibate, solvent, and sane now, so it's not an issue.

/johnny

2 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:06 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SkyPilot

I’ve pretty much written it off. Too many golddiggers out there.


3 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:28 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule (Lets institute SARAH-ia law in America!)
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To: SkyPilot

>> it is the ultimate status symbol for a black man to have a white blong blue eyed wife on his arm

“blong”? Is that a cross between “bling” and “blond”?


4 posted on 01/26/2012 8:08:35 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SkyPilot
The welfare state made black men disposable. It has been that way since the days of the "Great Society". Uncle Sam provides food, clothing, shelter and medical. Having a man around the house is an impediment to the freebies.

The whine about the number of black men in prison is just tough. You do the crime, you do the time. Behave yourself if you don't want to end up in prison. It's not that hard.

5 posted on 01/26/2012 8:10:33 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: SkyPilot

Ten percent of black men are in prison, and 40 percent of Black men have been in prison, 50 percent of Black men have not graduated High School. Great choices to chose from.


6 posted on 01/26/2012 8:11:33 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
I’ve pretty much written it off.

Yep. My kids are grown and gone, my grandkids are doing great, and I've bought enough houses for women that turned out to be bitter haters.

/johnny

7 posted on 01/26/2012 8:11:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SkyPilot

How about government moved in and replaced the black husband/father with Section 8 and WIC? Then started the War on Boys, supported by a union education establishment that doesn’t educate, and finalized by the War on Drugs.

What average black male looks at marriage as a plus? Black women have been entirely co-opted by liberal feminism: career comes first, children second. Sex is free and easy and abortions common.

Plus, white women by and large are very supportive of their spouses and much more traditional. Even liberal women take their husbands last name, etc. Black women are an argument and a fight and forget tradition they’re busting out. Hostility is second nature and anything can set it off. It’s like threading a landmine. Not all of them, but I’ve seen that cute smile turn deadly nasty on a dime. It’s not pleasant and doesn’t make you think marriage, but run away, run away.


8 posted on 01/26/2012 8:14:26 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA

Interracial marraige was once a sensitive topic in the U.S. It never occured to me to care one way or the other.


9 posted on 01/26/2012 8:15:49 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Nervous Tick

That kind of comment doesn’t blong on this thread, OK?


10 posted on 01/26/2012 8:16:44 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SkyPilot

MGTOW


11 posted on 01/26/2012 8:17:10 PM PST by SlargTarg
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To: SkyPilot
For the man, get married and you're over a legal canyon at all times, ready to get dropped w/o a parachute. And, if dropped, you'll live another day, just beat to hell.
Then you get the privilege of becoming an organic ATM for a long time. It's not complicated. The fairer half have become predators.
12 posted on 01/26/2012 8:18:06 PM PST by TwoSwords (Romney is Crassus. Newt is Parthian.)
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To: SkyPilot

>> Black men who prefer to date or marry white women say overwhelmingly that they find white women more supportive and nurturing than black women.

Interesting that two out of three example “blonde gal-black dude-marriage” pics you posted have already failed. The third one, Michael Jordan and Yvette whats-her-name, is a little early to draw a conclusion; married late 2011.


13 posted on 01/26/2012 8:19:42 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SkyPilot

Klum and Seal are getting divorced.
Might wanna edit that.

:)


14 posted on 01/26/2012 8:20:35 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: 1010RD

>> That kind of comment doesn’t blong on this thread, OK?

R-R-R-R


15 posted on 01/26/2012 8:21:29 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

Agreed...couldn’t care less...


16 posted on 01/26/2012 8:21:46 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Nervous Tick; 1010RD

LOLOL


17 posted on 01/26/2012 8:22:02 PM PST by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.....I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands.)
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To: SkyPilot
Black racist Eldridge Cleaver made those same points thirtysome years ago in his book Soul On Ice. Chapter was titled "White Woman, Black Man" IIRC.
18 posted on 01/26/2012 8:22:27 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Salamander

>> Might wanna edit that.

But hey, Tiger and Elin are still hangin’ tight...

Speaking of Tiger, what’s the difference between Santa Claus and Tiger Woods?


19 posted on 01/26/2012 8:23:40 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Salamander

Trouble in paradise, eh?

Sounds like even Klum had to see what was on the fourth floor.


20 posted on 01/26/2012 8:30:07 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SkyPilot.


21 posted on 01/26/2012 8:34:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Salamander

Didn’t know a thing about the two, but I’d heard Seal’s hit song. From a search it appears she’s a regular divorcer. They had committed to renewing their vows annually and have three kids. Seven years seems to be the upper limit for a lot of people.


22 posted on 01/26/2012 8:35:30 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SkyPilot

Marriage is for moral, successful people....or is it that moral people are more successful at marriage???


23 posted on 01/26/2012 8:42:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: SkyPilot

“They are attractive, well-educated and have successful careers. Danielle Smith, 38, and Tiffiney Ross, 29, seem to have it all.”

Youth?

Fertility?

Domestic skills?

Good proportions?

Grace?


24 posted on 01/26/2012 8:58:09 PM PST by bornred
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To: 1010RD

“...but I’ve seen that cute smile turn deadly nasty on a dime.”

I’ll remember that the next time I see a pic of the First Wookie.


25 posted on 01/26/2012 9:00:40 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Rembrandt

Obama would never deign to think about treating Michelle the way he treated Gov. Jan Brewer. Disrespect? I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Michelle has her heart to hearts with Barry.

He might be Irish, but he’s from the gentler breed...


26 posted on 01/26/2012 9:03:31 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SkyPilot

The racial thing never bothered me. Black and hispanic women always were more down to earth anyway.

Doesn’t matter. Just tired of dating. What is it with women today? There is no balance, every single women I meet is one extreme or another. It’s like they have to choose a ‘mode’ for their ‘identity’ then be that one-dimensional thing 24/7.

They’re either trashy skanks or uptight anal harpies. Scared fragile little rabbits or domineering bitches. Naive and gullible or constant scheming and conniving. Zero ambition and unkept or gold-digging, image-obsessed, materialistic, self-absorbed princesses. Dumbfoundingly ignorant or thinks she’s smarter than Einstein.

Where is the woman that can have a beer or go to church and be comfortable at both? Goals and dreams but down to earth? Likes nice things but has the skill to either make them or work for them? Good morals but not full of herself? Stands her ground but knows when to back down? Sweet, smart, tough, but knows her limitations.

Barely into my 40’s and I feel like a damn relic ready for the ancient history museum. It’s like women that were the norm just 20 years ago are gone, replaced by what I don’t know. I can’t tell you the last time I’ve had a great conversation, or a fun date, or feel like I could trust someone as far as I could throw them. It’s like they’ve all lost their soul.


27 posted on 01/26/2012 9:26:33 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: SkyPilot

Good grief.


28 posted on 01/26/2012 10:06:20 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Free Vulcan
i’ll tell you where they are went... they all got snapped up.

you waited too long, and realized it too late.

your only hope now is dating girls considerably younger than you.

29 posted on 01/26/2012 10:54:04 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: TwoSwords
For the man, get married and you're over a legal canyon at all times, ready to get dropped w/o a parachute.

And on the 11th Day, God invented the pre-nup. And there was much rejoicing.

Consider it as the American Express Card of marriage. Don't go to the altar without one.

30 posted on 01/26/2012 11:42:08 PM PST by superloser
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To: Free Vulcan

Great post. I know what you mean, I am your age and live with a ball buster wife. In the end you need to check your woman, or they start enjoying the bossing around. Men get lazy and say whatever, that’s when the power slips.


31 posted on 01/26/2012 11:44:33 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: SkyPilot

I read this book - it’s a great statistical analysis of the problem. It makes more sense than the Cosby-type “all a moral failure” thesis. His thesis is that Black women don’t marry out, for a variety of reasons he explores, while Black men do. Add to that the educational disparity (more college grad black women than men), and sift out the offenders in the justtice system, and the average college age Black woman faces only half a “qualified” black man - that is, there are two women for every man. Add to that the black men marrying out, which is a statistical fact, and the situation for a Black woman that wants to marry “in race” is grim indeed. I recommend the book - written by a black lawyer, I believe.


32 posted on 01/26/2012 11:58:01 PM PST by Islander828
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To: TwoSwords

Plenty of predators on the other side too but then again the chi1d support system victimizes men for sure- totally corrupt.


33 posted on 01/27/2012 12:00:39 AM PST by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: TwoSwords

There is such a thing as a prenuptual.


34 posted on 01/27/2012 12:24:48 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: SkyPilot
Henry Kissinger watches historian Niall Ferguson marry Ayaan Hirsi Ali under a fatwa

35 posted on 01/27/2012 12:50:02 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Free Vulcan
My friends and I had the same thought as Free Vulcan just a few days ago.

I don't understand why most women tend to be unbalanced. I'm a “jack of all trades” type of personality and feel like I had to give up a big part of who I am with every woman.

I tend to alternate between the careless, unwashed, constantly-intoxicated hippy type and the uptight, domineering, materialistic, prohibitionist type. I know my ideal woman lies somewhere in between but I've never met one. I'm not as old as FV and have been seriously looking since I was 18. I even date girls up to 10 years younger.

Except for one, all my friends who married did so with the uptight, domineering, materialistic type and I get the sense that a part of them died. Just last week we were playing cards with a friend who some of us haven't seen in over a year. We played for 3 hours and his wife screamed at him to “never play these kid table games again”. He didn't even put up a fight and said to us “it's not worth it”. He's only been married for about 1 year!

36 posted on 01/27/2012 5:58:54 AM PST by varyouga
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You’re probably right about the younger women, though I’ve been seriously trying for the last 15 years or more to find something decent. It just seems since the Clinton admin this country has just changed and the level-headed women have dwindled more and more. I do meet them but they are just increasingly rare.


37 posted on 01/27/2012 6:30:03 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; Dengar01
Danielle Smith, 38, and Tiffiney Ross, 29, seem to have it all. They are attractive,

I saw this piece on the local news, that's debatable.

The "controversy" in the book besides it immfamitory title is the author's excellent (a Black guy with a Black wife) suggestion that Black women should be open to dating people of all races, as Black men are.

In the news interview one of the two was okay with that the other gave a hell no, she's holding out for a brother. I find her position foolish unless she only finds Black men attractive, which is unlikely.

38 posted on 01/27/2012 6:35:50 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: SkyPilot

I see all the bitter divorced men have shown up.;) Like moths to a flame...

As for my dh and me, we married at the age of 22 (it was the Navy uniform—women love a man in uniform). Everyone thought we were crazy for getting married that young. Guess what...still married 17 years later, and I’m not sitting around wondering where all the men are. There is a reason that our reproductive years as women are limited—it’s so we find a mate early and start reproducing (at least that is how my mom puts it, lol). I’ve been a SAHM pretty much the whole time, not a gold digger—heck, when we married, we barely had enough to survive on. While we’re not upper class, we have definitely come up in the world financially, but it’s been through lots of sacrifice on both our parts. Marriage isn’t 50/50—it’s 100/100. He doesn’t look like he used to and neither do I (although I’ve been mistaken for his daughter a couple of times, lol). Lord knows neither one of us is perfect, but somehow we’ve made it work. Could be because we took that ‘for better or for worse’ part downright seriously. As children of the early 70s, we saw what the Roe v. Wade, easy divorce generation brought to our society (my own parents divorced when I was 6, but my in-laws are still married after 42 years). We decided-at least in our marriage-that we weren’t going to have any part of that, ahem, baloney.


39 posted on 01/27/2012 6:51:13 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: varyouga; wac3rd

Glad to hear I’m not insane. It’s hard for me to even put into words sometimes. Like I said I started noticing it in the mid-90’s or so, seemed like women my age and younger were devolving into either the type that didn’t give a damn about anything but a good time, or were materialistic and status-seeking beyond reason. Worst of all they expect the man to provide one or the other to them.

The most twisted thing of all out of it is the jekyll-and-hyde syndrome. My last one in particular was that. She was older, conservative, active Republican, smart, fun, we were well matched. Got a tiny promotion to supervisor - not manager, dept head, coordinator, or anything close - and she lost her head. She was in the country club now, and it wasn’t just me she treated like dirt. It was mind boggling because she made no more money than me and my resume is certainly longer, and if I wanted to be a dick about it I was very much a higher social status than her, especially in political circles.

That just one example in a string of them. It’s just left me to where I am flat too scared to date anymore. I’m either having to take constant care of them or they’re full of themselves and trying to dominate me. Whatever happened to being friends and partners? Or just normal? Apparently I’m not the only guy that sees it.


40 posted on 01/27/2012 7:12:11 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Dengar01

“...Black women should be open to dating people of all races, as Black men are.”

Agreed. Does that make Black women RACIST??? Not that I care, I don’t.


41 posted on 01/27/2012 7:14:27 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Frankly...you need to teach classes. What you describe hardly exists anymore. I’ve looked 25 years to find that without a great deal of luck.


42 posted on 01/27/2012 7:20:49 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: SkyPilot
There seems to be a pattern where women won't date a good man if everything doesn't seem perfect, if she finds a man who makes her horny she jumps his bones and afterwards tries to see him as perfect, if the relationship gets serious she suddenly awakens to his imperfections and immediately tries to change everything about him, when he runs away off the reservation she has no idea why he left, and mourns him while being mad at all men and continuing to ignore good men because they aren't perfect, until one makes her horny....endless loop until you have an old woman mad at the world and a house full of stray animals.

In response, men take horniness as biological and flee feelings of perfection, the word "perfect" sounds like rusty manacles opening. They look everywhere for someone who can see right through them and still accept them, perhaps love them. When "perfect" enters the game, they know whatever the woman sees, she isn't seeing him, and then the distance begins. Woman blames him (he's only depressed because he knows it drives me crazy) goes into control mode (if I say this, then he'll do this, if I act like this, then he'll think that, etc), to him she's become an insane stranger, hs worst cynicism is confirmed, and he's in the wind. Problem is, men end up being "in the wind" so often and see this behavior pattern so many times that they prepare for a break up before anything has a chance to go downhill. They're going to end up being the bad guy *whatever* they do...and start packing it in long before the plane has come to a full and complete stop. In time the drone grows gray and a little peace and a nonjudgemental environment becomes at least as attractive as the lust, confusion and control issues that are the modern manifestation of romantic dreams. In their cut and run survival mind a "normal" woman becomes more and more an object of idle fantasy, and internet porn takes the edge off when carnal desires could lead them into yet another romantic mistake.

Of course, your mileage may vary ;^)

43 posted on 01/27/2012 7:22:53 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Free Vulcan; varyouga; wac3rd

One of the best pieces of advice I was ever given was the following:

“Rule number one when it comes to women: All the good ones are taken, if they’re not, there’s a reason why.”

You couldn’t pay me enough to get married in this country. I’m not volunteering for a trip on the Titanic, sorry.

And I’ll add this observation to the conversation: Between “Sex and the City” and “Real Housewives of ‘x’”, women get REALLY distorted and bizarre views of the world.


44 posted on 01/27/2012 7:30:41 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I hate to even splash my personal stuff around like this, but honestly I’ve been looking for something decent since my college days in the early 90’s. I have met some great women but it has been in passing and never at the right place and the right time. I’m old fashioned and I need to get to know a girl a bit before I ask her out, and am not comfortable doing that from a chance meeting.

Even then there have been very few. Even most of the nice ones, when you get down to it they’re looking for a man to come along and give them a good life rather than making one for themselves and making even better when that man does come along. That’s been the biggest barrier to finding one for me - most women look at a man to see what they can get out of him. I’m tired of feeling like a lunch ticket and a source of entertainment.

I’ve just given up on the parade of a-holes. Have plenty of married and non-married women friends and kids love me so that keeps me sane and realizing that I’m normal. I’m well networked into my district politics and am working to be financially independent. When I get there I’m thinking of adopting a couple of kids and telling the ladies to take a hike. It’s just not worth it.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 8:21:27 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; TexasFreeper2009; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Free Vulcan; wac3rd
“Rule number one when it comes to women: All the good ones are taken, if they’re not, there’s a reason why.”

“Taken” by whom? For the most part, we don’t have arranged relationships in this country. I’m pretty damn cynical but IF there are “good ones”, why can’t we be one of the “takers”? I don’t think this is something to live by.

“You couldn’t pay me enough to get married in this country. I’m not volunteering for a trip on the Titanic, sorry.”

I’m in the same boat. I want an exclusive relationship, but I will likely never get legally married or permanently live with someone. The problem is that all but the stupidest women know the power that the courts give them in any dispute. Absolute power can corrupt even the best people. These laws came about because men had all the power in the past and many abused it, discarding and ruining the lives of women. Now it is the exact opposite and just as bad, with women seeking full control and threatening to ruin the lives of men.

And I’ll add this observation to the conversation: Between “Sex and the City” and “Real Housewives of ‘x’”, women get REALLY distorted and bizarre views of the world.

All fiction is biased and distorts reality to allow the reader/viewer to escape it. The same can be said of the articles in playboy or visual pornography.

46 posted on 01/27/2012 9:14:26 AM PST by varyouga
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To: Free Vulcan

It sounds really weird but I think television, magazines, music, blogs, websites and movies (collectively, ‘Pop Culture’) make women and men uncertain in today’s world about their roles.

Hollywood does everything it can to tear down Anglo-Saxon, Christian, heterosexual marriage and family. Note how every Home Depot ad is of a minority family in a big house and how every geek in a Depends diaper or the fool who rams is car into a swimming pool is a middle-aged white male.

There is a reason for this, one, it’s envy. The radical Lefists live in surreal Beverly Hills/Upper West Side existential lives that are basically empty and they project their hatred and emptyness with vicious portrayals of the evil family of four in Indiana or Texas, and glamorize the lower income barrio-trailer park-ghetto lifestyles as “diverse and real” which is ironic in a gated, security detail-protected home in the hills.

My wife watches Housewives, Kardashians, etc. and dreams of a carefree lifestyle. The allure of doing charity work and being a full-time mommy with 3 week vacations and a paid staff of nannys and cooks seem appealing to our suburban t-ball and ballet life.

I dated many women in big cities, and found a lot of women who basically want to be taken care of, and some who are, as you said, super ambitious. I was lucky, not too many gold diggers, but also, people don’t want to struggle, so they work hard or want to marry a secure, steady provider.

In the end, I think it comes down to the woman, some can be cool, feminine as well as hardworking and not a pushover. You can find her, just avoid 100% of all Liberal women, I did.


47 posted on 01/27/2012 9:20:18 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: GOPsterinMA; TexasFreeper2009; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

It sounds really weird but I think television, magazines, music, blogs, websites and movies (collectively, ‘Pop Culture’) make women and men uncertain in today’s world about their roles.

Hollywood does everything it can to tear down Anglo-Saxon, Christian, heterosexual marriage and family. Note how every Home Depot ad is of a minority family in a big house and how every geek in a Depends diaper or the fool who rams is car into a swimming pool is a middle-aged white male.

There is a reason for this, one, it’s envy. The radical Lefists live in surreal Beverly Hills/Upper West Side existential lives that are basically empty and they project their hatred and emptyness with vicious portrayals of the evil family of four in Indiana or Texas, and glamorize the lower income barrio-trailer park-ghetto lifestyles as “diverse and real” which is ironic in a gated, security detail-protected home in the hills.

My wife watches Housewives, Kardashians, etc. and dreams of a carefree lifestyle. The allure of doing charity work and being a full-time mommy with 3 week vacations and a paid staff of nannys and cooks seem appealing to our suburban t-ball and ballet life.

I dated many women in big cities, and found a lot of women who basically want to be taken care of, and some who are, as you said, super ambitious. I was lucky, not too many gold diggers, but also, people don’t want to struggle, so they work hard or want to marry a secure, steady provider.

In the end, I think it comes down to the woman, some can be cool, feminine as well as hardworking and not a pushover. You can find her, just avoid 100% of all Liberal women, I did.


48 posted on 01/27/2012 9:36:46 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: GOPsterinMA; TexasFreeper2009; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj

It sounds really weird but I think television, magazines, music, blogs, websites and movies (collectively, ‘Pop Culture’) make women and men uncertain in today’s world about their roles.

Hollywood does everything it can to tear down Anglo-Saxon, Christian, heterosexual marriage and family. Note how every Home Depot ad is of a minority family in a big house and how every geek in a Depends diaper or the fool who rams is car into a swimming pool is a middle-aged white male.

There is a reason for this, one, it’s envy. The radical Lefists live in surreal Beverly Hills/Upper West Side existential lives that are basically empty and they project their hatred and emptyness with vicious portrayals of the evil family of four in Indiana or Texas, and glamorize the lower income barrio-trailer park-ghetto lifestyles as “diverse and real” which is ironic in a gated, security detail-protected home in the hills.

My wife watches Housewives, Kardashians, etc. and dreams of a carefree lifestyle. The allure of doing charity work and being a full-time mommy with 3 week vacations and a paid staff of nannys and cooks seem appealing to our suburban t-ball and ballet life.

I dated many women in big cities, and found a lot of women who basically want to be taken care of, and some who are, as you said, super ambitious. I was lucky, not too many gold diggers, but also, people don’t want to struggle, so they work hard or want to marry a secure, steady provider.

In the end, I think it comes down to the woman, some can be cool, feminine as well as hardworking and not a pushover. You can find her, just avoid 100% of all Liberal women, I did.


49 posted on 01/27/2012 9:53:00 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Free Vulcan; All

“I’ve just given up on the parade of a-holes. Have plenty of married and non-married women friends and kids love me so that keeps me sane and realizing that I’m normal...I’m thinking of adopting a couple of kids and telling the ladies to take a hike. It’s just not worth it.”

Excellent plan!!! Adoption is most definitly a worthwile option.

Between my sister’s kids and my friends’ kids, I’m fine with being the “Uncle” and not the “Dad” or as someone else said “the organic ATM”.


50 posted on 01/27/2012 12:58:30 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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