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VP Marco Rubio?: The man in demand
CNN ^ | 1/27/12 | Juan Carlos Lopez

Posted on 01/27/2012 2:29:40 AM PST by Scanian

lorida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, considered a powerful Hispanic political player and rising star in his party, has consistently said no to having vice presidential aspirations. But still, the question keeps coming up.

Rubio, the popular Miami-born son of Cuban immigrants, has been seen by some inside Republican circles as a great "get" as a possible No. 2 on a hypothetical presidential ticket, and is already showing his power to influence the process.

Just this week he pushed back on former House Speaker Newt Gingrich after the Republican presidential candidate ran a Spanish language radio ad labeling former Gov. Mitt Romney as "the most anti-immigration candidate." Rubio called the commercial "inaccurate" and "inflammatory" and the Gingrich campaign pulled the ad.

Gingrich press secretary R.C. Hammond said the ad was taken down as part of a scheduled "rotation time for the ads," not as a result of complaints from Rubio.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: gop; latinos; vicepresident
If the GOP puts a non-natural born citizen on its ticket, I WLLL stay home or at least not vote for any presidential candidate. Marco is a great guy and a good senator but since his parents were not naturalized until after his birth, Rubio's eligibility is no better grounded than Obama's.

Marco is off to a good start in the Senate. I say let him rise to the top of the leadership heap and NOT do the country a disservice by creating another eligibility problem after what we have been dealing with in Obama.

Marco has been coy about his ambitions. I suggest that he KNOWS he is not constitutionally eligible according to the Founders' conception of NBC. I hope he tells the nominee "no way" if asked to join the ticket.

1 posted on 01/27/2012 2:29:41 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Yes, he has become a good little insider to the GOP.


2 posted on 01/27/2012 2:39:07 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Scanian

Has Rubio joined the ranks of RINOS in his mimicry of Bob Dole, Christie, McCain, et al., in his attack on Newt?


3 posted on 01/27/2012 2:39:36 AM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Rudder

He has declared strict neutrality.


4 posted on 01/27/2012 2:40:28 AM PST by Scanian
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To: bmwcyle

You would rather have Charlie Crist or Mel Martinez in that seat?

Please explain how Rubio has joined the GOP “establishment.”

I hope he CAN move up and ultimately replace McConnell so the senatorial leadership can have some spine for a change.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 2:44:17 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
If he is smart, he will remain neutral. If he goes to Romney, that will be his Crist kiss of death (like Crist with Obama) Then he will be neutered by GOP. They don't like Tea Party unless they cave in like Brown and Pam Bondi who I think are both done now.
6 posted on 01/27/2012 2:48:22 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

So far, he has refused to endorse anybody. Marco is definitely a smart politician.

I was very disappointed by Pam Bondi. I thought she had potential. Endorsing Romney was a big mistake.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 2:55:28 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Christie at the beach

Yes, if he doesn’t, he very well could become just another Republican without scruples. We really don’t want another middle of the road Republican!

If he tries to join in the fray, he better join the Conservative side or he is lost forever... We really don’t need another wishy-washy Republican!


8 posted on 01/27/2012 2:57:14 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Scanian

Back in his run for the senatorial seat, he claimed (on TV) that the GOP spent millions to stop his candidacy in their support of Charlie Crist (which now this has been confirmed) Many negative and deceitful ads. The Tea Party carried his race for victory. He was about to lose before they got involved. It was a nasty election. Now, it seems so strange to see him aligning with the GOP pick while not giving any support to Newt ( whom the Tea Party in Florida are supporting)


9 posted on 01/27/2012 2:59:13 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Scanian

Smart is NOT always a good thing. I want someone who will stand up for their principals regardless of who they profess to support!


10 posted on 01/27/2012 3:00:29 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle

That comment is what should be branded on the butt of every “politician”

Well done indeed.

It is about time someone actually stated, stand up for your principals, not your political cunning to mouthwash.

Damn ell done

EL


11 posted on 01/27/2012 3:16:00 AM PST by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms - Stay Vigilant)
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To: Scanian

I’d go get a latino Republican governor.. then you don’t need Rubio to take Florida.. win win


12 posted on 01/27/2012 3:22:38 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Geez... as if it mattered what nationality or other “brand” he/she was! Get a grip folks on your language.

I’ll take anybody that believes in the Constitution!


13 posted on 01/27/2012 3:27:40 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle

get a grip why do you think they keep bringing up Rubio every 5 minutes.. it’s politics not paddy cake


14 posted on 01/27/2012 3:34:51 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Scanian

Rubio is coy all right!
Wish he is BRAVE and upright enough to say: ‘I am honored but I am not constitutionally eligible to be the president or VP.’

Now he actually defends Romney, ‘the conservative’, in response to Gingrich’s factual charge that Romney is a moderate!


15 posted on 01/27/2012 3:37:04 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

I fully understand why they keep bring up Rubio - do you? If politics continues as it is now, not that it would change things much if we actually tried to do things honestly.

That is the problem today, it’s all about politics - hell with honesty, integrity, or anything dealing with the truth!


16 posted on 01/27/2012 3:43:10 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Christie at the beach

’ it seems so strange to see him aligning with the GOP pick while not giving any support to Newt ( whom the Tea Party in Florida are supporting)’
Exactly!
Rubio defends Romney because ‘Romney helped him in the 2010 senate run’ but is too chicken to vote now with the tea party who sent him to the senate!


17 posted on 01/27/2012 3:43:50 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Scanian

Up YOURS Marco, you RINO Romney-lover and Jeb Bush sockpuppet!

GTFO outta here, at least with Charlie Crist we KNEW what we were getting (and in retrospect it wasn’t much worse!)


18 posted on 01/27/2012 3:44:29 AM PST by mkjessup (A loser to a loser who now endorses that loser is a loser. <-- iow, NO Romney, No WAY!)
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To: chrisnj

Well, that’s not fair. He should NOT be giving any preference at this point. Now if he does not support the eventual Republican candidate, then that would be a problem.

Don’t condemn him for not supporting a candidate at this point!


19 posted on 01/27/2012 3:50:26 AM PST by Deagle
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To: chrisnj

I did not assume that he was aligning with Romney. He was defending Gingrich against attacks by Gingrich against Romney regarding immigration. If I’m wrong about that the my whole argument is wrong...

I have never heard him actually support Romney...is that right?


20 posted on 01/27/2012 3:58:36 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Whoops...defending Romney against attack by Gingrich.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 4:01:38 AM PST by Deagle
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To: Scanian

CNNObama strikes again.


22 posted on 01/27/2012 4:02:21 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: chrisnj

I read him as wondering if SCOTUS will rule him eligible by some convoluted reasoning.


23 posted on 01/27/2012 4:09:15 AM PST by Scanian
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To: chrisnj

I read him as wondering if SCOTUS will rule him eligible by some convoluted reasoning.


24 posted on 01/27/2012 4:09:50 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Christie at the beach

You have just identified some of the reasons why many of us refuse to either join a political party or do any work for one.

Too many compromises have to be made. Being a purist and inflexible will get you ostracized; being a chameleon would wreck my conscience. But maybe our officeholders are a different breed.


25 posted on 01/27/2012 4:16:04 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
“Rubio’s eligibility is no better grounded than Obama’s”
I was thinking the same thing, he would be one heart beat away from the presidency? Would this set a precedent for following elections?
26 posted on 01/27/2012 4:29:22 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: duckman

I fear that Obama already set that precedent.

We cannot compound his illegality with illegalities of our own.

That goes for Jindal and, as far as I’m concerned,Romney too (George Romney was born in Mex. and never was naturalized in the US).

I believe we have to hold the line on NBC taking the Vattel position (which was the Founders’ understanding of NBC) or soon we will find ourselves with the Schwartzeneggar’s of the world (or worse) thinking they can run for president.


27 posted on 01/27/2012 4:41:08 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

I would just as soon see Allen West as a VP candidate for either nominated candidate.


28 posted on 01/27/2012 4:47:10 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Scanian

No more token candidates. Sorry. We need proven leaders and not more talkers.

We already tried
1) Cain the token black man with no political experience
2) Scott Brown, the token Massachusetts guy who won because of one line about Kennedy’s seat
3) Christie, the token tough talking Italian guy
4) Palin, the token female governor who kinda sorta thought she had the fire in her belly.


29 posted on 01/27/2012 4:53:52 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA/PIPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: Scanian

Is Rubio a Natural Born Citizen? I thought the VP had to have the qualifications to be President.


30 posted on 01/27/2012 4:53:52 AM PST by Go Gordon (President Poverty - President Downgrade - President Food Stamp - President Pantywaist - B. H. Obama)
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To: duckman

Me too.

(Trouble is, we have been working on him down here pretty regular. ButAllen says he likes the House and wants to stay there)


31 posted on 01/27/2012 4:53:52 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Go Gordon

Not by my reckoning, NO!

I am a hard-liner on that. I stick to Vattel’s definition (born inside the country to two CITIZEN parents)

Any honest student of history will admit that Vattel was THE authority on citizenship and international law in the late 1700’s. The Founders looked to his “Law of Nations” for advice because he was the accepted expert o the day.

BTW, the Vattel definition excludes Mitt Romney s well.


32 posted on 01/27/2012 4:59:41 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

“ButAllen says he likes the House and wants to stay there”
Oh. I am sure I read on a previous post, several days ago, that he is available if asked; however he would have to check with his family.


33 posted on 01/27/2012 5:02:09 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Scanian
I read him as wondering if SCOTUS will rule him eligible by some convoluted reasoning.

There apparently is precedent for recusal when a judge will be directly affected by the decision. Kagen and Sotomayor could lose their lifetime appointments.

To overturn the precedent of Minor v. Happersett, particularly when it has been cited in so many other decsions, would be a travesty. The Constitution, unless amended, provides for the removal by the Senate of Supreme Court justices. That is what a number of people meant when they observed that we, in 2008, now had a Constitutional crisis.

A story is beginning to unfold involving the cover up for our other ineligible President, Chester Arthur, leading to outright lies in the decision, Wong Kim Ark, from which came the authority to deem children of illegal aliens, born on our soil, citizens. It is a remarkable tale being exposed by the same attorney, Leo Donofrio, who uncovered the fact of Chester Arthur's ineligibility. Donofrio was thus aware of what to look for, and identified some of the lies planted by Arthur to misdirect the curious, not unlike the scrubbing of dozens of Supreme Court decisions by Soros lieutenants, Tim Stanley and Carl Malamud, both at the most frequently accessed source of digitized cases, Justia.com, and at the Cornell Law website. Arthur had good reason to have all his personal papers burned days before he died. He too concealed his birth certificate to titillate the opposition, the public and that part of the press which was not assisting him in his plot.

The point is that Obama’s allies, the Obama media, and the complicit Republicans, who also ran an ineligible candidate, aided by the Democrats who provided a phony Senate Hearing, and a resolution, Senate Resolution 511, which, like all resolutions, has no force of law, to give talking points for the media. Even those who sound knowledgeable and motivated by conservative principles like radio pundit Roger Hedgecock, repeat as fact that the Senate determined that McCain was eligible. No Senate had the authority to do that, and besides, they didn't. What they did do, every US Senator, including Barack Obama, was sign their agreement that a natural born citizen must have been born to two parents who were citizens when the child was born. Pat Leahy confirmed Michael Chertoff’s testimony, and Obama’s Harvard adviser who was also on his campaign committee, Larry Tribe, wrote a letter making the same point, and lying about the 1790 Naturalization Act, which was completely repealed in 1795, and replaced with a Naturalization law that never mentions natural born citizens.

Obama and his campaign committee chairwoman Clare McCaskill, also attempted to pass a bill, SB2678, in February of 2008, written to make the foreign born children of military citizen, McCain, eligible to the presidency. They knew, and every Senator knew that Obama was not born to two citizen parents, while using that argument to claim that McCain was eligible. Every US Senator in 2008 knew that Obama was born to a British Kenyan father. Every Senator except John McCain signed the resolution agreeing that a natural born citizen must have had citizen parents. Our government is filled with liars and crooks, and we may still have enough remaining of a Constitution, the 1st Amendment, to enable us to inform citizens who believe the media and legislators. Then we must remove all Senators who failed to honor their oaths to honor, defend and protect the Constituion.

A decision overruling Minor v. Happersett, would acknowledge that Happersett was prevailing during Obama’s first term, and affirming that he was not eligible! The Supreme Court, certainly John Roberts, has shown its ability to weasel out of difficult decisions, as Judge Thomas implied in 2009. They will need to be cornered before taking on the sitting executive, whether or not he is a Consitutional president. Like most men and women, and much as some claim higher ideals. their most likely tactic will be to protect their careers, because this crisis involves just the responsibilities stipulated by the Constitution. Not addressing interpretation of the Constituion is grounds for impeachment of a justice. Justice Marshall said they, the court, not only have jurisdiction, they must take such a case. The question will probably be, when?

Now that Georgia is forcing airing of the fact that there is precedent, and that both parties are complicit, Rubio has lost his chance to be a hero by standing up for the Constitution. It is probably not an accident the the only legislator to attempt to vet Obama was run out of Congress by Democrats on phony ethics charges as soon as he, Nathan Deal, wrote an open letter to the White House in 2009 after he askedm for assurance that Obama was eligible. He is now Georgia's governor. Coincidence?

34 posted on 01/27/2012 5:16:28 AM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

I know about D’Onofrio, I know about Apuzzo, and I also know that those cases you cite might or might not be cited by SCOTUS which is extremely capricious and unpredictable.

Who ever thought they would regard McCain-Feingold as constitutional?


35 posted on 01/27/2012 5:28:23 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Romneybot veeps don’t excite me.


36 posted on 01/27/2012 1:11:22 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

Pal, if you dislike Rubio, that’s your business.

But when has he ever said he supported Romney?


37 posted on 01/27/2012 2:26:25 PM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Pal, maybe you should have been paying attention to the beat down of Newt that he was doing this week, and his support for Mitt as he labeled him a conservative.

Rubio has thrown his weight into preventing Romney from losing in Florida.

Rubio served Romney very well in the debate last night.


38 posted on 01/27/2012 2:45:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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