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Romney's Mexican Family: Gingrich Florida Debate Immigration Showdown Gets Personal
http://www.ibtimes.com ^ | January 26, 2012 | Sara Dover

Posted on 01/27/2012 7:42:41 AM PST by NKP_Vet

"I'm not anti-immigrant. My father was born in Mexico. My wife's father was born in Wales. They came to this country. The idea that i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. ... I'm not going around and rounding people up and deporting them. ... I'm not going to find grandmothers and deport them"

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: sourcetitlenoturl
Romney IMPLIES that his great grandfather was a Mexican immigrant. Well the true story is his great grandfather was Miles Romney, who was running from the law and left Utah with his numerous wives instead of going to prison. Once in Mexico he settled right in and probably got himself three or four more wives. Romney has nothing at all in common with an immigrant from Mexico and neither did his law-breaking, polygamist grandfather. But alot of hispanics watching the debate last night will think this sleazy used car salesman has an hispanic heritage. He absolutely does not. But that still does not keep him from pandering to hispanics and never setting the record straight when he mentions his wayward grandpa who went to Mexico instead of going to prison in the United States.
1 posted on 01/27/2012 7:42:47 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

2 posted on 01/27/2012 7:47:38 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s interesting that his father, George Romney, was born in Mexico. Yet he was a major candidate for president in the Republican primaries in 1968, and the fact that he was born in another country was never mentioned. Nobody made an issue of whether he was really a natural born citizen at that time.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 7:50:01 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: fishtank

What’s the implication here? That Jeffords is related to Romney? Do you think people are stupid enough to believe that? Romney may have some Hispanic heritage. Maybe one of his grandfather’s wives was Mexican and Romney may be a descendant of that union. I don’t know and I don’t care. What is important is that Romney has been married to one wife—his high school sweetheart—and from all the info out there it has been a mutally loving and faithful relationship without mistresses and adulterous behavior. Ann Romney is certainly not Romney’s former mistress.


4 posted on 01/27/2012 7:53:07 AM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: fishtank

And IIRC the Romneys were chased out of Mexico because of their religion and their practice of polygamy.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 7:53:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Newt: "Why vote for the guy who lost to the guy who lost to Obama?")
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To: NKP_Vet

And none of Romney´s family has ever been in the service. Not one. Ever! How´d they swing that?


6 posted on 01/27/2012 7:54:36 AM PST by onedoug
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To: WestSylvanian

The implication is that both Rmoney and Jeffs belong to the same dishonest organization.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 7:57:56 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: onedoug

And your point is? Should it be made a requirement to run for office?


8 posted on 01/27/2012 7:57:59 AM PST by psjones (u)
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To: WestSylvanian

Romney’s grandfather had 3 - or was it 5? - wives with him when he fled to Mexico. Maybe Romney would like to discuss his 3 grandmothers?

Romney’s grandfather moved back to the US because he did not want to bring up his children in Mexico (George Romney was quite young at the time, IIRC), and also because the polygamy thing was unpopular with the locals.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 7:58:56 AM PST by livius
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To: RoosterRedux

IIRC they left when a war broke out.


10 posted on 01/27/2012 8:00:25 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Well, you never know who is related to who if you are a mormon!


11 posted on 01/27/2012 8:00:50 AM PST by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: WestSylvanian

The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator of the Universe, that all things were created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

They have stolen the Name and the Identity of Jesus Christ.

12 posted on 01/27/2012 8:01:16 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: WestSylvanian

13 posted on 01/27/2012 8:03:46 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: NKP_Vet

But the burning question is did daddy ever get naturalized as a US citizen and if he did was that before or after Mittens was born? Look what happened last time we ended up with a non-NBC.


14 posted on 01/27/2012 8:04:13 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: NKP_Vet
“The idea that I’m anti-immigrant is repulsive.”

Fained disgust by Romney. Mitt, you are a ****sucker. That's repulsive. Anti-imigrant? oooooooooo, repulsive ...NOT.

15 posted on 01/27/2012 8:06:33 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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I am a Newt supporter and I was disappointed to see his blatant pandering for the illegal vote. He is to the left of Romney on immigration. It may help him win Florida but Hispanics will vote overwhelmingly for Obama as they did the last time.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 8:10:24 AM PST by Valentine Michael Smith (This world and at least one more.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Mitt’s family belong to the Nation of Mormonism. It wouldn’t matter if it were Shanghai, Cuba, Germany or the USA. His loyalty is to his compadres in Mormonland.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 8:11:02 AM PST by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Yet he was a major candidate for president in the Republican primaries in 1968, and the fact that he was born in another country was never mentioned. Nobody made an issue of whether he was really a natural born citizen at that time.

He supposedly dropped out early so there was no need to persue it. Anyone can run for office but the rules change (or are supposed to change) when it gets down to candidates getting the nod and certifications are filed.

18 posted on 01/27/2012 8:12:10 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: WestSylvanian

“Maybe one of his grandfather’s wives was Mexican and Romney may be a descendant of that union”

Absolutely not. The Romneys never intermarried with a Mexican. Do the research. They keep it squeaky clean and white. The only Mexicans the Romneys knew were housekeepers and bean pickers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt%E2%80%93Romney_family


19 posted on 01/27/2012 8:19:29 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: WestSylvanian

What is important is that Romney has been married to one wife—his high school sweetheart—and from all the info out there it has been a mutally loving and faithful relationship without mistresses and adulterous behavior. Ann Romney is certainly not Romney’s former mistress.

Ya! What an awesome couple! Willard’s a BABY KILLER, and his wife supports PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

What a fricken joke!!!!


20 posted on 01/27/2012 8:24:21 AM PST by billys kid (Everything in Massachusetts is illegal)
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To: billys kid

Romney’s wife is probably more liberal than Willard is. Hard to believe but probably true. Never forget that grinning Laura Bush projected the image of the perfect conservative, pro-life wife, then the minute GW Bush was out of the office she gets on Larry King and proclaims to the world that’s really pro-abortion and pro-homo marriage and just didn’t want to mention it when her husband was in office. RINOs are all the same. Democrats mascarading as republicans.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 8:47:00 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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He's using a flat out lie to say that his father and grandfather were mexican. Grandpa was a fugitive who eventually had to move back because the locals didn't like his lifestyle and he probably wasn't doing too well financially in a socialist craphole country.

Mitt the twit uses a tried and true democrat dodge of saying that he is being accused of being against immigration while accusing Newt of being against immigration. Newt is not speaking against immigration, he is speaking against illegal immigration

Like the rino progressive he is, mitt twists the truth to serve his own needs and to say what he believes each local audience wants to hear. No different from POS Rivera on Fox implying that he or his parents were immigrants from PUERTO RICO, knowing that Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory and that his parents were born U.S. citizens.

Lying sacks-o-crap.

22 posted on 01/27/2012 8:47:43 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: billys kid

Progressive’ Mitt Romney Supported Abortion, Gay Rights Openly in 2002

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/mitt-romney-supported-abortion-gay-rights.html


23 posted on 01/27/2012 8:53:50 AM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: NKP_Vet

This explains Romney’s self-deportation comment.

His grandfather self-deported when legal authorities finally stopped turning a blind eye to religious inspired polygamy.


24 posted on 01/27/2012 8:55:47 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: NKP_Vet; All
But alot of hispanics watching the debate last night will think this sleazy used car salesman has an hispanic heritage. He absolutely does not.

That is ABSOLUTELY the impression he hoped to convey.

CNN have tried to help that as well by mentioning his father's birth in Mexico (although he was NEVER eligible for Mexican citizenship) in a debate before S.C. voted too.

Make no mistake, they know EXACTLY the impression they hope to leave however misleading.

25 posted on 01/27/2012 9:09:26 AM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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Yeah, Gingrich and Romney... keep slinging that mud.. you`re turning into court jesters for Obama. You`re no longer his opponents.. you`re his entertainment.


26 posted on 01/27/2012 9:19:13 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.Oh, let me gues)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yeah, Gingrich and Romney... keep slinging that mud.. you`re turning into court jesters for Obama. You`re no longer his opponents.. you`re his entertainment.


27 posted on 01/27/2012 9:19:25 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.Oh, let me gues)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

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Q & A
Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The (GA) - Sunday, March 10, 2002
Author: COLIN BESSONETTE; Staff
Q: As a follow-up to the George Romney question in Q&A the other day, how was he able to run for president of the United States, since he was born in Mexico and wasn’t a natural- born citizen?

— David Herndon, Atlanta

A: Romney , the first Republican to announce he was running for the 1968 presidential nomination, was, as you say, born in Chihuahua, Mexico . But his parents were Americans.

The Constitution says, “No person except a natural- born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President . . .”

Constitutional scholars have often debated whether a child born abroad of American parents qualifies. The consensus is that “natural- born “ does not mean “native- born .”

But that scenario has never occurred, and so the issue has never been tested. If Romney had been elected, somebody probably would have taken the issue to court.

As the earlier Q&A item reported, Romney dropped out of the race. His support had waned dramatically after he said on TV he had been “brainwashed” by U.S. military and government officials into supporting U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

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PRESIDENT ROMNEY - A STALWART, GAVE LIFETIME OF SERVICE TO CHURCH
Deseret News, The (Salt Lake City, UT) - Saturday, May 28, 1988
Once an impoverished refugee from Mexico who eventually served as a General Authority for 47 years, President Marion G. Romney made major contributions to the Church throughout his life.

He was known for his powerful testimony, for his knowledge of the scriptures and for his ability to get things done, said associates. He served in the First Presidency for 12 years as a counselor to two Church presidents.

President Romney was born in Mexico , a son of George S. and Artemesia Redd Romney . In 1912, George Romney sent his family to the United States when their hometown of Colonia Juarez was threatened by rebels during the Mexican Revolution. Young Marion, 15, was placed in charge of the move, and the family traveled by wagon to El Paso, Texas. His father later rejoined them, and they eventually settled in Rexburg, Idaho.. He learned the carpentry trade from his father and excelled in sports.

After graduating from Ricks Normal College in 1920, he was called to serve a mission to Australia. He returned to marry Ida Jensen, with her “golden hair and smiling face.” They were parents of four children, two of whom died in infancy.

During the formative years of the Church’s welfare program in the mid-1930s, he was a young bishop of the 33rd Ward in Salt Lake City. In 1935, he listened to President Heber J. Grant encourage bishops to follow welfare principles. He was a member and later chairman of the bishops regional council, one of the early forerunners of the welfare plan.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt%E2%80%93Romney_family

Pratt–Romney family

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-besieged-mormon-colony-mitt-romneys-mexican-roots/2011/07/21/gIQAFGOXVI_story.html

Miles Park Romney , Mitt’s great-grandfather, was born there in 1843, but the Romneys and other Mormons fled Nauvoo the next year after Smith was killed by a raging mob. They followed Brigham Young across the Great Plains and crossed the Rockies to help settle the Salt Lake Valley, then part of Mexico .

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But Mexico was where Miles Park Romney found the freedom he was looking for. He and a small group of settlers sent by Brigham Young bought a dusty plot along the Piedras Verdes River in 1885 with the consent of Mexico ‘s then-dictator, Gen. Porfirio Diaz.

Miles Park Romney and his family, including Mitt’s grandfather Gaskell, lived out of wagon boxes and helped chisel irrigation canals along the sides of the valley to plant apple orchards, which soon become the most productive in Chihuahua.

By the time Mitt Romney ‘s father, George, was born in 1907, northern Mexico was headed for chaos and violent calamity.

With the outbreak of the Mexican Revolution in 1910, the Mormons of northern Mexico were forced to flee, as they had done in previous generations. The Romneys boarded a train for El Paso two years later, and Colonia Juárez and the other settlements were sacked by bandits. Only about a third of the Anglos would return to their homes in Mexico .

Mitt’s grandfather Gaskell was not among them.

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His son George Romney , Mitt’s father, would grow up poor in the United States, taunted as “Mexican!” by other kids at school. But he went on to be a legendary auto executive, two-term Michigan governor (Willard Mitt Romney was born in Detroit in 1947), and one-time presidential candidate, losing the 1968 Republican nomination to Richard M. Nixon.

At the time, George Romney ‘s eligibility for president was more of an issue than his Mormonism, news archives show. But the potential legal dispute over his Mexican birth was superseded by Nixon’s primary victories, and Romney dropped his campaign before the matter could be settled.

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28 posted on 01/27/2012 9:25:19 AM PST by maggief
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To: NKP_Vet

“Never forget that grinning Laura Bush projected the image of the perfect conservative, pro-life wife”

At the time, the only thing more sickening than the Freeper GWBush shrine posts were the Laura Bush shrine-worship posts.


29 posted on 01/27/2012 11:10:41 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: psjones

It is as far as I´m concerned. But it would seem less so for one who hasn´t served.


30 posted on 01/27/2012 11:40:27 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug; psjones
And none of Romney´s family has ever been in the service. Not one. Ever! How´d they swing that?

They arrived here to serve Joseph Smith in 1841, and no Romney man has ever served our nation in uniform, not ever.

A 170 year record, unbroken by patriotism or generations of military drafts, even desperate war time drafts, is proof of a plan, a dedicated goal, this is not coincidence, or military service skipping a generation or two, or three, in a family line.This is a family enforcing a strict internal rule.

31 posted on 01/27/2012 12:35:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: maggief

I don’t believe that the Romneys have ever been poor, at least over the last couple of hundred years, they were always a wealthy and powerful family.


32 posted on 01/27/2012 12:40:01 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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