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Student Faces Town's Wrath in a Protest Against Prayer
NYTimes ^ | 01-27-12 | Abby Goodnough

Posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:09 AM PST by lilyramone

A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer's presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion. In the weeks since, residents have crowded school board meetings to demand an appeal, Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: arth; moralabsolutes
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1 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:13 AM PST by lilyramone
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To: lilyramone

Ahh...but her application to Harvard is going to be fast-tracked.


2 posted on 01/27/2012 9:44:33 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: lilyramone

>> “Our Heavenly Father, grant us each day the desire to do our best, to grow mentally and morally as well as physically, to be kind and helpful.” It goes on for a few more lines before concluding with “Amen.”

Well, that certainly is offensive enough for me. Off with their heads. /s


3 posted on 01/27/2012 9:46:22 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: lilyramone
When a Republican doesn't believe in God, they just don't go to church.

When a Democrat doesn't believe in God, they want to outlaw religion.

4 posted on 01/27/2012 9:47:27 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
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To: lilyramone

This is the reason that as long as I have the ability to do it, my children will not see the inside of a public classroom.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 9:48:04 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: lilyramone

What was the prayer? Story is worthless without it.


6 posted on 01/27/2012 9:55:26 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: lilyramone
A federal judge ruled this month that the prayer's presence at Cranston High School West was unconstitutional, concluding that it violated the principle of government neutrality in religion.

The oft-repeated falsehood about the separation of church and state is NOT a Constitutional provision. No such provision exists. The entire concept of separation of church and state stems from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson in which he discused the concept, but it was never memorialized in any official government document.

In addition, the SCOTUS has held that if school pryer is initiated by the students and not the faculty (except in religious private schools), there is no conflict with the so-called separation of church and state.

Jessica has received online threats and the police have escorted her at school, and Cranston, a dense city of 80,000 just south of Providence, has throbbed with raw emotion.

Really!!?? The whole town "THROBBED"!!??? Did we get a little dramatic in the telling of this story???

7 posted on 01/27/2012 9:56:27 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: svcw
Google is your friend.

http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/cranston-west-prayer-banner-text-detail

8 posted on 01/27/2012 10:01:10 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: lilyramone

It’s only a matter of time before atheists like Jessica Ahlquist demand:

1) the state not allow Christian Churches on public roads throughout this country because it creates the illusion that the state endorses religion.

2)Demand Churches remove their crosses and silence their bells so not to offend non-believers

3) Cities like St Louis and San Diego change their names because the word Saint endorses a religion.

4) The military remove all Christian Chaplains so not appear to endorse religion.

5) Public College/high school sport programs remove the ‘Hail Mary’ pass from their playbook.

6) Prayer in public will not be allowed anywhere because it might offend non-believers.

7) Christians wear a giant C on the left side of their chest so they can be easily identified and thus publicly shunned.

8) One will not be able to shop at a business owned by a Christian, in the name of FAIRNESS,because it gives the appearance of favoring a religious business over a secular one.

9) Biblical Christian(Lucifer and Judas are exempt) names will no longer be accepted on birth certificates so it does not create the appearance of the state endorsing religion.

10) Islam is exempt from All of the above rules in the name of diversity and as an expression of multiculturalism!

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9 posted on 01/27/2012 10:02:42 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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Two issues with all this...

First, there is NO Constitutional demand for ‘neutrality’ regarding religion. The Constituion prohibits the Federal government from establishing a state religion. Nothing more.

Second, there is NO Constitutional requirement or obligation for the Federal government to be involved in education. In fact, since it’s not among the enumerated powers, educational oversight is, by default, reserved to the States or the People.

It is well past time for us to reclaim our nation, and re-assert the Constituion, as written and legally amended, as the primary and LIMITING control on the Federal leviathan.


10 posted on 01/27/2012 10:03:22 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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The prayer:
Our Heavenly Father, grant us each day the desire to do our best, to grow mentally and morally as well as physically, to be kind and helpful to our classmates and teachers, to be honest with ourselves as well as with others. Help us to be good sports and smile when we lose as well as when we win. Teach us the value of true friendship. Help us always to conduct ourselves so as to bring credit to Cranston High School West.
Amen.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 10:04:20 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: svcw

It does seem to be rather secular, the only people it might offend would be militant atheists. I don’t see any establishment of religion in it.


12 posted on 01/27/2012 10:14:07 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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Imagine going down in history as the town A44hole.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 10:17:45 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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So she stopped believing in God because her prayers for her sick mother were not answered fast enough?


14 posted on 01/27/2012 10:23:30 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Menehune56

Not surprising that an atheist would be offended, they are selfcentric and morally vapid.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 10:23:59 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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So she stopped believing in God because her prayers for her sick mother were not answered fast enough?


16 posted on 01/27/2012 10:24:38 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: lilyramone

These judges have Liberal-diseased minds.

They incorrectly conclude that “nuetrality” means “antagonic opposition”.

There is nothing “nuetral” about atagonistic opposition.

True “nuetrality” (on the part of the government) - in terms of “separation of Church and state” - can mean only one thing - the government must be agnostic; and by that I mean it is neither a “believer” or a “non-believer”; it does not set itself as “the representative of” nor does it set itself as “the opponent of”; it neither prescribes nor proscribes; it neither demands a relisious sentiment of its chosing nor prohibits a religious sentiment the people have elected, agreed, allowed to be given.

The idiots judges do not mandate “separation of church and state”, they demand that only the church of secular humanism, the chosen church of the state (in the judge’s view), be heard.

In other words, if it were “neutral” then it would stay out of the choices “we the people make” in terms of our religious sentiments, even when we express them in a government owned facility in a public event.

“We the people” have all the Liberty and all the “freedom from oppression” we require to either appreciate the message, ignore the message, or remove ourselves from hearing the message, as we choose, without the U.S. Federal government telling us what we ought to have done, which from the idiot judges’ point of view, is we all should have, in the manner of extreme national unity of one mind, attacked the message. That is what their view of “neutrality” means.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 10:25:48 AM PST by Wuli
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Oh, so it’s not that she doesn’t believe in God, it is because He didn’t do what she commanded Him to do in her time. So she is just pissed that God isn’t a Genni.


18 posted on 01/27/2012 10:26:18 AM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Wuli

Do they study the Declaration of Independence at this school?


19 posted on 01/27/2012 10:27:32 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: lilyramone

I thought when they did this they wanted attention? I guess she thought they would love her for forcing her beliefs down the majorities throat?If it bothered you just don’t read it....


20 posted on 01/27/2012 10:28:57 AM PST by chris_bdba
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