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Was Elliot Abrams Deceived on Newt?
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 27, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/27/2012 11:33:27 AM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: I mentioned his name yesterday -- Jeffrey Lord was in the political office of the White House during the first term of Reagan, maybe both terms. Jeffrey Lord now writes at the American Spectator. Jeffrey Lord, like me, didn't understand all this stuff at Newt yesterday.

AP has a story referring to me now as "conservative radio titan." And they describe me as trying to defend Newt on this yesterday, and in the process, nevertheless, recounting all of the things that Newt had said. I wasn't trying to defend Newt, as AP said. All I was saying was I pay close attention to this stuff. Even when I wasn't doing a talk show, this stuff was my life. The last two to three years I was working with the Kansas City Royals (that would have been '81, '82, '83, I got back into radio in 1984) I was immersed in this stuff. And Newt, the only thing I knew about him was that he was the premiere -- there were a lot of people trying -- but he was the premiere Reagan defender in
those special orders. And I just had never heard any of this stuff.

Jeffrey Lord, who worked in the White House at the time, had not heard any of this stuff. So he did some research and has written a piece that is now in the American Spectator, The Spectacle blog. I just got it. It prints out six pages, and I have not had a chance to read the whole thing, but it seems like Elliott Abrams has been had. It seems like Elliott Abrams had a piece at National Review really ripping into Newt, was spoon-fed some out-of-context stuff. "Abrams quotes Newt for saying in this speech that Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are 'inadequate and will ultimately fail.'" He quotes Newt as saying that. So Jeffrey Lord went to the special order, Newt's speech on the floor of the House when the House had shut down business for the day and listened to the whole thing. It was an hour.

And Jeffrey Lord writes, "Abrams quotes Newt for saying in this speech that Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are 'inadequate and will ultimately fail.' This is shameful. Why? Here's what Newt said -- in full and in context: '"The fact is that George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick are right in pointing out the enormous gap between President Reagan's strong rhetoric, which is adequate, and his administration's weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail."' In other words, Newt was picking up on a concern, prominent in the day and voiced by no less than Reagan's then ex-UN Ambassador Kirkpatrick." It was a concern that had also been voiced by Reagan supporters, George Will and Irving Kristol, Bill Kristol's dad, and the late-Mondale aide turned conservative, as Mr. Lord writes here, Charles Krauthammer.

"Reagan's anti-Communist policies could be stronger if better institutionalized and not tied as much to the Reagan persona." Newt was picking up on a concern that these members of the Reagan support team and administration had said. He's a quoted as saying it. He didn't say it. It's a classic take a paragraph or a sentence in quotes and take some of the words out of it but leave the quote marks to make it look like the Speaker -- in this case, Newt -- was saying these things when he was picking up on a concern.

"ABC News. Now here's a little juicy tidbit. What's been the big news with Newt's campaign in the last week? That's right. The ABC News 'investigative' piece by Brian Ross in the form of an interview with Gingrich's ex-wife Marianne. Aired two days before the South Carolina primary, the incident famously backfired as Gingrich launched an attack on ABC during that now-famous CNN debate hosted by John King. All new, right? Wrong.

"Five days previous to Gingrich's speech, President Reagan had addressed the nation on what he called 'the mounting danger in Central America' from Nicaragua. Nicaragua, which Reagan described as 'a Soviet ally on the American mainland only 2 hours' flying time from our own borders. With over a billion dollars in Soviet-bloc aid, the Communist government of Nicaragua has launched a campaign to subvert and topple its democratic neighbors.' Typically, the liberal media of the day zapped Reagan. And sure enough, buried in that March 21, 1986 Gingrich speech on the House floor, Gingrich was tough on the liberal media's handling of Reagan's speech.

"And who -- quite specifically -- did he single out for criticism? You guessed it: ABC News. Said Newt: 'All too often the news media itself is grotesquely uncritical and grotesquely willing to use Soviet language to explain Soviet behavior. Possibly it reached its epitome when ABC News put on a paid Soviet propagandist following the President of the United States.' In other words, 26 years ago Newt Gingrich was busy incurring the institutional wrath not just of the mainstream media in general but ABC News quite specifically over the issue of their 'grotesquely uncritical' treatment of the Soviet dictatorship.

"What America is seeing in real time today in this 2012 presidential campaign in terms of Newt Gingrich taking on both the media in general and ABC News in particular is decidedly not new. There is a history here -- a long one -- of Gingrich calling out ABC. And, as seen in the now infamous ex-wife interview, ABC pulls no punches when dealing with Newt Gingrich." Anyway, this, as I say, prints out to five pages. The first half of this piece is the most meaningful. It's all good, but it illustrates here. The headline of the story is: "Elliott Abrams Caught Misleading on Newt," and you have to understand: Elliott Abrams' reputation is beyond repute. He's gold. He's the coin of the realm, and that's what made people curious.

So Jeffrey Lord got together with some people, and found out that it appears that Mr. Abrams been spoon-fed some stuff that he didn't question because there is an institutional dislike for Newt amongst the conservative establishment and so on and so forth. In fact, here's how Mr. Lord writes about it: "A piece like the one Abrams wrote depends for its success in garnering headlines -- which it did -- by assuming no one will bother to get into the weeds and do the homework. Usually a safe assumption when dealing with the mainstream media, particularly a mainstream media that, as one with Establishment Republicans, hates Newt Gingrich. Not so fast.

"Due to the diligence of one Chris Scheve of a group called Aqua Terra Strategies in Washington, Mr. Abrams has been caught red-handed in lending himself to this attempted Romney hit job. Mr. Scheve, you see, is himself a former foreign policy aide to none other than Speaker Newt Gingrich in his days as Speaker. While now out on his own and not working for Gingrich, Scheve is considerably conversant with the Gingrich foreign policy record. Uh-oh. That's right. Mr. Scheve, incensed at what he felt was a deliberate misrepresentation of his old boss by Abrams and the Romney forces, specifically of Gingrich's long ago March 21, 1986 'Special Order' speech on the floor of the House, and aware 'that most of his [Abrams'] comments had to have been selectively taken from the special order' -- Scheve started digging.

"Since the Congressional Record for 1986 was difficult to obtain electronically, Scheve trekked to the George Mason Library to physically track down the March 21, 1986 edition of the Congressional Record. Locating it, copying and scanning, he was kind enough to send to me," writes Jeffrey Lord. "So now I've read the Gingrich speech that is the source of all the hoopla. All seven, fine print pages worth of it exactly as it appeared in its original form. I can only say that what Elliott Abrams wrote in NRO [National Review] about Newt Gingrich based on this long ago speech is not worthy of Elliott Abrams. Specifically, Abrams implies that Newt Gingrich was spewing mindless vitriol about Reagan on the House floor.

"Not only not so, it was quite to the contrary," which, I'm telling you... These special orders is where everybody first heard about Newt, and he was the premiere defender of Reagan. That's why all this stuff yesterday had me scratching my head. Here's a quote from Newt on this special order: "'Let me be clear: I have the greatest respect for President Reagan. I think he personally understands the threat of communism.' Gingrich then goes on -- at Newtonian length -- praising Reagan for Reagan's understanding of Lenin, Reagan's understanding of the real 'purposes of a Soviet dictatorship' and much more.

"He lists and applauds Reagan repeatedly for the President's appreciation of 'the threat in a more powerful Soviet empire' and the threats posed by Communist Cuba and Nicaragua. He ranks Reagan with the great Cold War presidents in protecting freedom. In short, time after time after, Newt Gingrich -- true to form -- is there on the floor of the House relentlessly praising and crediting Ronald Reagan. Is it any wonder that years later Nancy Reagan would speak so publicly and warmly about 'Ronnie' passing the conservative torch to Newt? Is there any wonder that Michael Reagan has stepped into the middle of this current brawl to endorse Newt?

"Abrams quotes Newt for saying in this speech that Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are 'inadequate and will ultimately fail,'" and this is the paragraph I read to you at first that references Jeane Kirkpatrick, George Will, and Charles Krauthammer that Newt references without his words. "In other words, Newt was picking up on a concern, prominent in the day and voiced by no less than Reagan's then ex-UN Ambassador Kirkpatrick, not to mention prominent Reagan supporters Will and Kristol and the late-Mondale aide turned conservative Krauthammer, that Reagan's anti-Communist policies could be stronger if better institutionalized and not tied as much to the Reagan persona.

"The entire [Newt] speech focused on suggestions of how to do just that -- to effectively institutionalize Reagan's conservative beliefs in the government. Is Abrams seriously accusing Jeane Kirkpatrick and George Will of being anti-Reagan? Of spewing 'insulting rhetoric' at a president everyone in Washington knew they staunchly supported? Really? Of course not. But ... Newt Gingrich appear to be doing just that, Abrams apparently quite deliberately cut out the original Gingrich reference to Will, Kirkpatrick, Krauthammer, and Kristol." Now, I've got the whole piece. Jeffrey sent me the whole text of the special order. It is tough slogging, but it confirms my memory.

All I could tell you yesterday is I did not remember any of this Newt-bashing-of-Reagan stuff. But there were the videos of some examples selectively edited. You know, things left out and starting point of the edited version, not really the starting point. So there you have it. But, however, folks, I'm just gonna have to assume here that Elliott Abrams was spoon-fed this stuff by the Romney people. This is a stunning piece. This is an absolutely stunning piece by Jeffrey Lord in the American Spectator. But the genie's out of the bottle. You can't put all this back in the bottle now -- and the debate last night, that wasn't Newt's. Santorum was the big winner to me. Romney did better than in a couple of areas. So that's that.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; benedictromney; elliotabrams; jeffreylord; liar4liarromney; liar4romney; neoconservative; romneytheliar; rushlive; smellslikemitt; viciousromney

1 posted on 01/27/2012 11:33:29 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If he was he ought to come out and SPILL THE BEANS on Mr. Romney.


2 posted on 01/27/2012 11:35:15 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Kaslin
Abrams was basically a high level career foreign policy flunkie. He probably was dissed by Newt somewhere back in the day and got his ego bruised. Nobody will remember or care about this minor hit piece six months from now, mostly because nobody knows or cares who Abrams is.
3 posted on 01/27/2012 11:40:55 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kaslin
I do not think for one instant he was deceived. He lived through the Reagan years.... what kind of brain who supposedly live the time could be deceived. HE is a freaking LIAR. Maybe better question would be what was he really doing for US under Reagan. YES, I am ticked at the LYING gop pink mafia establishment LIES.
4 posted on 01/27/2012 11:40:58 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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bttt


5 posted on 01/27/2012 11:41:42 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Kaslin
it appears that Mr. Abrams been spoon-fed some stuff that he didn't question because there is an institutional dislike for Newt amongst the conservative establishment

Why apologize for Abrams? The man is sloppy and unethical enough to put his name on a hit piece during an election and we're supposed to think, "Oh well, he made a mistake"?

No dice.

I DON'T LIKE BEING DECEIVED.

6 posted on 01/27/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I remember who elliot was and I will forever remember him. From this point forward he will be a liar to me, ‘why’ is irrelevant. He supposedly worked in ‘highly’ secretive positions... I would not trust him to carry out the garbage. HE LIED.
7 posted on 01/27/2012 11:44:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Kaslin
Mitt can buy all of the rinos like Abrams. Look at Coulter, as a probable example of a whore cashing in on the Mitt Gravy Train.

The economic disaster has apparently left a lot of formerly wealthy Rinos like Abrams very susceptible to Romney's 30 pieces of silver. So they are cashing in for their 30 pieces of Romney’s silver and selling out to trash Newt!:


8 posted on 01/27/2012 11:46:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Kaslin

I dunno. Rush’s juices seem to be dedicated more to hawking his damn tea, and yesterday his political instinct was out of town. Yesterday was so devastating to Newt, via Drudge and from all of the individual reporting sources amassed against him, led by the Republican Establishment it was inescapable to see that Newt was knee capped. The Rush of fire and brimstone was NOWHERE to be seen, though he did report the headlines and made incidental comments, but yesterday was not an *incidental* day! Rush played it as if it were an ordinary day.

I didn’t listen today. I am reconsidering Rush, for the time being. No pain, no gain. Rush is not engaged in any pain for gain, imho.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 11:49:12 AM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: Kaslin

I never liked that cockroach Drudge. I never trusted him.


10 posted on 01/27/2012 11:49:49 AM PST by publius321
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To: Kaslin

Wow my respect for Rush grows.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 11:58:21 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Kaslin
But the genie's out of the bottle. You can't put all this back in the bottle now ...

So, false accusations can't be "put back in the bottle?" This isn't an event that once it's happened, the damage is irreversible. A false belief can be corrected. Call out the liar in no uncertain terms.

12 posted on 01/27/2012 12:04:36 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Mount Athos
-- Wow my respect for Rush grows. --

He's got to watch out for his credibility too - it's not as though he is skating on thick ice.

13 posted on 01/27/2012 12:07:47 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Kaslin

If the Romney people are willing to go to this level of deceit they do not deserve to govern. In fact, they are dangerous people.


14 posted on 01/27/2012 12:09:34 PM PST by Paraclete
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To: Just mythoughts
I do not think for one instant he (Abrams) was deceived. He lived through the Reagan years.... what kind of brain who supposedly live the time could be deceived. HE is a freaking LIAR.

Mega dittos!

15 posted on 01/27/2012 12:11:03 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Kaslin

Holy Moly! Looks like The American Spectator just hung National Review’s scalp on their lodge pole. Wonder if anyone will issue a correction or apology ;o)))~


16 posted on 01/27/2012 12:11:12 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: RitaOK
I used to listen to Rush, but I have a Bose radio that sits on a shelf high above my desk. Every time our power goes off I have to reset it and adjust the signal. I have to step on a stool and then still have to stretch, so I stopped bothering with it.

Regarding his "hawking" of his tea, I suggest you read this

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17 posted on 01/27/2012 12:11:19 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

I remember Eliot Abrams, but I don’t know what his advice and opinions actually were under Reagan. I do know that Reagan had a lot of resistance from his own people, in the State Department and elsewhere, and constantly had to fight their efforts to undermine his work to bring down the Soviet Union.

This does certainly lead me to suspect that the guy is a deliberate liar, not someone who was deceived. I suspect that he is accusing Newt of doing pretty much what HE was doing—questioning and undermining Reagan. He was a professional foreign service guy, and nearly all of those guys were liberals during the Cold War.


18 posted on 01/27/2012 12:34:20 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Kaslin

I very much appreciate Rush and his tea destinations to our military. God knows no one argues against Rush for that.
Yesterday, however, I was in no mood for distractions. This would include the damn tea.

Rush for the first time in 27 years deeply disturbed me in his treatment of D-Day on Newt. Beginning his address of the Newt story, and me breathlessly awaiting his take on it, as always, he starts, and then goes off on the damn tea, wonders back onto the subject at hand, and then cuts for commercial break, he returns, reads some stuff, makes an incidental comment that this is not the Newt he remembers, (blink, blink) and then launches into how Romney getting attacked too. Talk about equalizing night and day. Talk about the magnitude of attacks being in the same sentence.

Needless to say I did go ballistic! LOL! :)


19 posted on 01/27/2012 12:48:42 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012 / Rick Bachmann=Tool of the RINO/Romney backers)
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To: Kaslin

You won’t hear Rush say this, so I will. When we lost our son, the contribution from the MC-LEF to our granddaughter was made in Rush’s name. Rush has contributed millions over the coarse of the last 10 years of war to the education of our fallen’s children.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 1:10:54 PM PST by Naplm
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To: Cicero

Abrams was pretty much a hawk. But I suspect that he,like alot of people, dislike Newt. He had(s?) a bad habit of making people feel small, maybe to protect his own thin skin.. You can only step on so many toes and get by.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 1:26:10 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Naplm

Indeed, a loveable fuzzz-ball!


22 posted on 01/27/2012 1:28:00 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RitaOK

I believe Rush supports Romney because all of his rich friends do - and while he makes the effort to stand against the establishment - sometimes - I don’t believe he is willing to risk his standing with his rich friends.

When rush hinted here and there in the months before 2 if by tea, that he was pulling together something big that he didn’t want to talk about - I and many others thought it was going to be a new conservative media outlet - maybe based on Beck’s - with his conservative allies to stand against barack in the election.

Of course, it didn’t turn out that way. Rush won’t even say who he’s voting for in Florida... That is not the kind of patriot that started this country, or the kind of patriot we need now.


23 posted on 01/27/2012 1:30:30 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: RitaOK
Part of being a conservative is seeing and acknowledging the fact, both pleasant and unpleasant. Newt is justly criticized for his attacks against Mitt over the Bain Capital stuff. Just because you like Newt and loathe Mitt, doesn't suddenly alter what is just or unjust, what is right or wrong.

I have repeatedly blasted Newt for those ill-considered attacks he has made against Mitt--he has done it again on this immigration business, so stupidly that he was forced to retract his ads over it.

It is wrong, it is stupid and Newt deserves to be taken to task over those attacks and Mitt deserves to be defended against them.

Likewise, I have attacked Mitt for doing the same--far more often and viciously than Newt did him--against Newt. Mitt has proven himself to be a serial liar and distorter and perfectly happy and self-justifying in his behavior. He did it against Huckabee, he did it against McCain, and he is now doing it to anyone who stands in the way of him being elected now--first Rick Perry in Iowa, now Newt in South Carolina and Florida.

But, back to the point. Rush sees his job as being a defender of the basic tenets of conservatism--of the truth, of capitalism, of the spirit and legacy of Ronald Reagan and of our Founding Fathers. That means he will call Newt down for bad behavior, just as he will call Mitt down.

Blaming him or attacking him for doing what he has always done isn't accomplishing anything. This circular firing squad is going to reelect the Narcissist in Chief and everybody in the Republican Party and among those "establishment conservatives" needs to STOP IT!

Now, Mitt (and the runt from Texas) started this, so they bear the lion's share of the blame, but they have all stooped to low tactics at some time.

Rush ain't always right, but in this case, he has been playing referee and, I believe, justly so.

Newt and Mitt need to muzzle their defenders or at least loudly, openly and repeatedly make it known that they do not like the fact that their surrogates are involved in lying and distortion.
24 posted on 01/27/2012 1:38:29 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Mount Athos

Rush and Drudge were the most evil attackers on ‘Bloody Thursday’, Rush supported Romney in 2008, and is doing so now.


25 posted on 01/27/2012 1:39:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

The Fix is in—Get on the Mitt bandwagon or be destroyed—if you have a protest vote—you can waste your energy on Ron Paul—that’s what he is for. Newt isn’t playing ball he is to drop out and support Mittens. All right thinking Republicans know this! Failure to support Mittens will make you a target—and if you have any credibility you will be CRUSHED! Its like going against Al Capone or something. Sarah loves her family and income too much so she will not come out and support Newt. Its like being in a Nazi Occupied Nation in 1940—Support the collaborators or be punished. These is another option — REBEL.


26 posted on 01/27/2012 1:56:31 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Kaslin

Deceived?? LMAO!!


27 posted on 01/27/2012 3:34:40 PM PST by BearArms (Newtron Boom!)
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