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Does Mormonism Scare you? Does the thought of a Mormon US President Romney scare you? READ THIS!
January 27, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell

Posted on 01/27/2012 12:18:49 PM PST by mitchell001

Does the thought of Mitt Romney, a devout Mormon and Mormon leader, becoming President scare you? After reading this testimonial of an ex-Mormon ((http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_packham/why.html)), I am scared of Mitt Romney becoming President. Remember when Barack Obama was seeking the nomination in 2008, his 20 year attendance at Jerimiah Wright's church where radical preaching took place was glossed over by the American public and the press. I say we do not make the same mistake with Mitt Romney and his leadership role in the Mormon Church. In the GOP nominating process, let's explore Mitt's Mormon beliefs. Am I totally off base? Please read the link on the ex-Mormon above!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: inman; mormon; mormonism; romney; romneymorman; romneymormon; vanity
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1 posted on 01/27/2012 12:18:58 PM PST by mitchell001
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To: mitchell001

No

No


2 posted on 01/27/2012 12:19:51 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: mitchell001

Romney’s proper title is Bishop Romney. He is a senior cleric in the Mormon tradition as evidenced by his vile hatred of the conservative movement and the candidates who support it.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 12:21:01 PM PST by Timaeus (Willard Mitt Romney Delenda Est)
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To: mitchell001

no x2


4 posted on 01/27/2012 12:22:23 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: mitchell001

Yes & yes.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 12:24:08 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: mitchell001

I have not read your article, but I’ll throw this in: I’ve studied mormonism and I’ve studied bible prophesy. I believe that if Romney is our next president, a strong case can be made for the likelihood that he is the antichrist, right down the the connection to the false religion.

Of course, if he is not elected, pretty much NO case can be made. ;-)

I’m not scared though. Fear is the absence of faith, and vice versa.


6 posted on 01/27/2012 12:24:08 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: mitchell001
Neither Mormonism nor the idea of a Mormon president scares me. The idea of Obama occupying our White House for four more years scares me. The idea of Mitt Romney as our president scares me. But the detail of Mitt's faith? Not a big deal. If Palin, Newt, DeMint, Bachmann, Cain, Fred Thompson, or Santorum were LDS, I'd still support them just as happily.

The problem with Mitt is not where he goes on Sunday mornings, it's what he thinks and does the rest of the week. I hope that other conservatives will focus on Mitt's record rather than his faith and reject him based on the valid objections to his support for a massive government intrusion into our lives rather than based on a peripheral issue. Personally, I wish FR would delete the "Mormon" threads (they don't make us look good), although the fact that they get so little support reassures me.

7 posted on 01/27/2012 12:25:12 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Timaeus

Milt is also title a ‘high priest’ in the LDS inc Melchizadek Priesthood, the specious copy of what The Bible proclaims Jesus to be and as a ‘one and only, because he is our priest forever never needing to be replaced.’


8 posted on 01/27/2012 12:25:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: mitchell001

I’m not scared by the thought of a Mormon president.

I am scared by the thought of a president who was acceptable to the same electorate that put the Swimmer and the Gigolo in the Senate for decades.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 12:25:43 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Timaeus

Milt is also titled a ‘high priest’ in the LDS inc Melchizadek Priesthood, the specious copy of what The Bible proclaims Jesus to be and Jesus as a ‘one and only, because he is our priest forever never needing to be replaced.’


10 posted on 01/27/2012 12:26:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Timaeus

Ditto:, Romney is Evil and should never be elected to anything. Watch the DVD Mormomonism’s Temple of Doom.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 12:26:43 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: mitchell001

Yes.

Every single nationally known mormon politician is a liberal.

Romney.
The Udall clan.
Hatch.
Reid.

Yes.

See my tagline.


12 posted on 01/27/2012 12:26:57 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: mitchell001

Yes. It’s a creepy cult. Remember, Grampa Romney fled to Mexico one jump ahead of the law so he could have his multiple wives.

Now Romney is trying to use this to pander and pretend he’s a Mexican? I think I’ll upchuck.

But that’s typical Mormon. Their beliefs are nuts...Romney thinks he’s going to get his own planet, well-stocked with wives, when he dies...but they like to sneak into Christian organizations and pretend they belong there.

They don’t, any more than Muslims do. Jesus to them is just another self-realized prophet. They’re a crackpot syncretist religion founded by a “prophet” who obviously was annoyed about not attracting those of the female persuasion (kind of reminds you of Mad Mohammed, doesn’t it) and built an endless supply of nubile females into his religion.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 12:28:15 PM PST by livius
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To: cuban leaf
George Soros and his tool Obama come far closer to being the antichrist than anything Mitt Romney can dish out on his worst day.

Peronally, I would put SE Idaho (majority Mormon) near the top of my places to flee when TSHTF.

14 posted on 01/27/2012 12:32:39 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mitchell001

Every Mormon that I’ve had the pleasure to know (and I’ve known plenty) has exhibited traits that are far, far superior to virtually any of the liberals I’ve known. Really.

There are plenty of reasons other than religion to not vote for RINOmney.

The best summary is that he is a vapid dork. (No religion can counter dorkicity. No education can conquer vapidicity (witness the Cretin-in-Chief). (Copyright on those two very appropriate RINOmney description words..heh)

However, is religion is NOT a valid reason to not want to boost the human weathervane into our highest office.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 12:33:37 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Pollster1

Learn about mormonISM.
Romney is who he is BECAUSE of mormonISM, not in spite of it.
For Romney to be elected president would legitimize mormonISM, to the SLC lds he would be a fulfillment of their prophecies, that only a saint (lds) can restore the country.
Learn about mormonISM.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 12:33:42 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: mitchell001

If Mitt was a better Mormon, he’d probably be a better (or actual) conservative. As it stands, this Jew is voting for Gingrich as a result of Romney’s past performance.


17 posted on 01/27/2012 12:34:13 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Actually, I’ve said the same about Obama, and believe it is very possible. Interestingly, I’ve had several people (face to face) over the last couple of years actually ask me, “Do you think Obama is the antichrist?”


18 posted on 01/27/2012 12:34:55 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: mitchell001

So if Romeny becomes the nominee that means you will vote for 0dumbo
if you don’t vote that is also a vote for 0dumbo

amazing that none of the mormons in poltical office or who have been in political office tried to kill us or turn us into devils


19 posted on 01/27/2012 12:34:59 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: mitchell001

We’ve already endured 3 years of the worst possible fright. A muzzie “president”.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 12:35:04 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Da Coyote

Romney is who he is BECAUSE of his mormonISM.
I would suspect you do feel they seem superior as they as trained that they are superior.
Learn about mormonISM.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 12:35:42 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: mitchell001
Does Mormonism Scare you?

No.

Does the thought of a Mormon US President Romney scare you?

Yes, but it's about his slimy, flip-flopping, wishy-washy moderate nature, not his religion.

READ THIS!

When I was in high school, I remember coming across a book about a church that read like that. Only it was about the Roman Catholic Church, not the Church of Latter-day Saints. It's irrelevant.

22 posted on 01/27/2012 12:36:22 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Pollster1

You better be scared of how the Dems will use Romney’s wacko religion to make him look like a fool in the general election.

Not to mention the historical racism of the Mormon church.

The right is much more religious than the left. The left is more accepting of any “belief system” and scornful of most religion unless it suits their purpose.

Just wait till Mitt’s mormon practices are put in the spotlight. Late night won’t even need writers, because the material will write itself.

I can’t believe the GOP can be this stupid, but money talks.


23 posted on 01/27/2012 12:36:48 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: livius
They’re a crackpot syncretist religion founded by a “prophet” who obviously was annoyed about not attracting those of the female persuasion (kind of reminds you of Mad Mohammed, doesn’t it) and built an endless supply of nubile females into his religion.

You might be interested to read the mental ravings of Brian Mitchell, the self-styled Mormon prophet who abducted Elizabeth Smart.

24 posted on 01/27/2012 12:37:19 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: cuban leaf
Bible prophecy does not hint, suggest or imply that any flesh being is the antichrist.

Bible prophecy does demonstrate the similarities of ‘roles’ some flesh beings activists on the lefe and right playing roles that give the ‘signature key’ to what the antichrist will do/be.

The one who tempted Christ is the antichrist. Not some flesh being who needs ‘wall street’ hedge fundies to prop him/her up.

25 posted on 01/27/2012 12:41:53 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: mitchell001
I do not know enough about the Morman rituals to answer. IF Myth Romney really believes he is a ‘god’ then he is an idol worshiper and doomed. Notice I said IF. I did see/hear him LIE last night in the debates, so that pretty much puts him in the devil's camp on that performance alone.
26 posted on 01/27/2012 12:44:34 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

All teaching on Revelation is controversial, as you and I have demonstrated in our posts. :-)


27 posted on 01/27/2012 12:45:20 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: mitchell001

Those who swallowed the muslim won’t gag on the mormon. I just hope e rest of the nation gets off its knees. Go Newt.


28 posted on 01/27/2012 12:45:20 PM PST by AnTiw1
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To: RWGinger

I’d rather be stabbed in the front by a known enemy than in the back by an alleged ally.


29 posted on 01/27/2012 12:48:59 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The problem is that Brian Mitchell represents what Mormonism really is. The reason US settlers in wagon trains were scared of the Mormons was that the Mormons were nuts...remember the Mountain Meadows massacre, which the Mormons initially tried to blame on the Indians.


30 posted on 01/27/2012 12:49:26 PM PST by livius
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To: cuban leaf

I have also have people ask me that question.
BHO is AN anti-Christ but I do not beleive he is THE anti-Christ.
Pretty sure THE anti-Christ will be way smarter.


31 posted on 01/27/2012 12:50:08 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: Pollster1; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; reaganaut; ...
Neither Mormonism nor the idea of a Mormon president scares me ... the detail of Mitt's faith? Not a big deal.

I maintain Mitt's Mormon beliefs are a critical election issue and I raise following arguments in support of this position:

It is not right to say doctrine doesn't matter at all. Take Islam, for instance. It would be dangerously naive to assume, as American civil religion does, that all religions are pretty much the same. It's true that most religions share core ethical teachings, but orthodox Islam also teaches unambiguously that there is to be no separation of religion and state, that non-Muslims are to live subservient under law to Muslims, and in some sects that Allah commands a jihad or "holy war" be waged against non-Muslim "infidels". To the extent that a Muslim wishes to preside over our pluralist liberal democracy, he will have had to break radically from his faith's fundamentals.

Liberals who insist that religion has no place at all in American politics have to account for the Christian roots of many social reforms. Consider for example the abolitionism and the civil rights movement. When faced with the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., and other black clergymen explicitly appealing to Christian scripture against Jim Crow, Southern segregationists groused that religion had no business in politics. You can't praise religion's role in political discourse only when it advances causes of which you approve or is practiced by constituencies blacks, say, that vote Democratic.

If God doesn't exist, then by what standard do we decide right from wrong? If a society recognizes no independent, transcendent guardian of the moral order, will it not, over time, lose its self-discipline and decline into barbarism? The eminent sociologist Philip Rieff, who was not a believer, said that man would either live in fear of God or would be condemned to live in fear of the evil in himself.

Mitt, himself, has placed his Mormon faith under scrutiny. In his famous speech on Mormonism, Mitt said that a person should not be rejected . . . because of his faith. His supporters say it is akin to rejecting a Barack Obama because he is black. But Obama was born black; Romney is a Mormon because he accepts the beliefs of the Mormon faith. This permits us, therefore, to make inferences about his judgment and character, good or bad.

Mitt has promised to fully obey Mormon teachings without hesitation and without question.

In his February 26, 1980 speech at BYU titled Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet, LDS President Ezra Taft Benson maintained the Mormon Church President spoke with inerrant authority on "any matter, temporal or spiritual " and was "not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time."

As a Temple Mormon, Mormon Bishop and Stake President, Mitt has sworn among other things, he recognizes the President of the LDS Church as a "prophet, seer and revelator," and will "obey the rules, laws, and commandments of the gospel" as proclaimed by Mormon Prophets.

Mitt made these solemn vows with the understanding they effect "time and all eternity."

Mitt either intended to honor his promises to follow another man's instructions, or he lied. In the case of the former, we are entitled to know where these directives lead, and in the alternative, we should be concerned about Mitt's honesty.

For these reasons, among others, I assert Mitt’s beliefs are indeed a legitimate issue for determining his qualifications for elected public office.

32 posted on 01/27/2012 12:50:16 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: livius
Romney thinks he’s going to get his own planet, well-stocked with wives, when he dies

Gee, what other (so-called) religion has a similar belief?

33 posted on 01/27/2012 12:50:23 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: All

Not nearly as much as the thought of a two-term racist, anti-Semitic, anti-American muslim do.......


34 posted on 01/27/2012 12:52:41 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: mitchell001

This discussion is crazy talk.

No, and no.


35 posted on 01/27/2012 12:53:18 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: mitchell001

No, but a RINO does.


36 posted on 01/27/2012 12:53:49 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: mitchell001

If you can get by Romneycare his religion is chump change..
Romneycare shows who HE IS not what he wants to be..

The man is a democrat with a (R) by his name..


37 posted on 01/27/2012 12:56:24 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: cuban leaf
All teaching on Revelation is controversial, as you and I have demonstrated in our posts. :-)

Actually, I was not referring to 'Revelation'. Moses was the first prophet. Revelation is a book that overlays in a different prospective the book of Daniel. And yes while Revelation is by many considered prophetic it was not the first to record the warning. My own personal way to describe the prophets is the prism... 'ONE' light gives different reflections upon who what where when and why.

38 posted on 01/27/2012 12:57:05 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: mitchell001
No, but I am horribly disappointed by religious bigots, such as yourself, posing as conservatives, or someone worth listening to on any issue for that matter!
39 posted on 01/27/2012 12:57:22 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Actually, I should have been more clear. When I use the word “antichrist”, I’m really referring to the beast in Revelation, as described in chapter 13


40 posted on 01/27/2012 12:57:55 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Disambiguator
Romney thinks he’s going to get his own planet, well-stocked with wives, when he dies

.... and the problem with that is?

41 posted on 01/27/2012 12:59:26 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Yeah. I consider Daniel and Ezekiel to be heavy on the prophesy, but let’s face it, most of the bible is prophesy.

And the habit of talking of the antichrist in the context I’ve been using it is a bad one. It’s in John. Revelation never really uses the word.

It is not lost on me, btw, that a lot of imams are talking about the soon coming of the 12th imam while a lot of rabbi’s are talking about us looking like we are very close to Ezekiel 39.


42 posted on 01/27/2012 1:01:45 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
I’m not scared though. Fear is the absence of faith...

And of course, we all know that “Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”


43 posted on 01/27/2012 1:06:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The price of freedom is willingness to do sudden battle anywhere, anytime..." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: MindBender26
No, but I am horribly disappointed by religious bigots, such as yourself, posing as conservatives, or someone worth listening to on any issue for that matter!

I do NOT understand these words. Mitt Romney lied serially last night. Yet claimed 'providence' blah blah blah. Romney himself has displayed a bit of the devil in himself.... now I can in NO way attribute that to Mormonism... but accusing one of being a 'religious bigots' after the devilish show last night is a wee bit over the edge.

44 posted on 01/27/2012 1:06:28 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: mitchell001

i have been suggesting that FReepers Google “The white Horse Prophecy”, by Joseph Smith the key sentence of which is “when the Constitution is hanging by a thread”, uttered by both Orrin Hatch and Glenn Beck in the past year.
The prophecy is that the Mormon Church will take over the government of the U.S., then that of the world!

You also might want to read, “Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters?”, by Tricia Erickson, daughter of another Mormon priest, now an ex-Mormon herself.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 1:06:42 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: mitchell001

Would you rather have a Mormon or a muslim?


46 posted on 01/27/2012 1:07:55 PM PST by fso301
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To: Vigilanteman
If the antichrist arises in our era he will more likely be associated to 'Chrislam'.

BTW, unless you know someone specific to run to in your shtf scenario, S.E. Idaho will be in constant state of seige with marauders seeking the years supply food stores of those Mormons you admire.

47 posted on 01/27/2012 1:08:06 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Vigilanteman

And if you live to see the day that Salt Lake LDS inc starts aligning/confabing with Chrislam, the end is very near.


48 posted on 01/27/2012 1:09:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Timaeus

And I have read that the Mormon church is a secret society, composed of a combination of Freemasonry, Hinduism, Islam with enough of a smattering of the Holy bible to hide behind.


49 posted on 01/27/2012 1:10:09 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: reaganaut
RE :"Does the thought of Mitt Romney, a devout Mormon and Mormon leader, becoming President scare you? After reading this testimonial of an ex-Mormon ((Why I Left the Mormon Church, Richard Packham)), I am scared of Mitt Romney becoming President"

LDS fond memories ping!

50 posted on 01/27/2012 1:10:20 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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