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Jerry Sandusky wants judge to let him see his grandchildren
The Patriot-News ^ | Friday, January 27, 2012, 6:25 PM | SARA GANIM

Posted on 01/27/2012 7:48:08 PM PST by FamiliarFace

Jerry Sandusky, accused of child sex abuse, will be in court soon asking a judge to modify the terms of his bail so he can see his grandchildren.

Sandusky, 68, was charged in November with abusing 10 boys over 15 years, many of whom he met through his charity, The Second Mile.

As part of a bail agreement that keeps him out of jail but on house arrest, Sandusky is not to have any contact with kids, including his grandchildren.

His attorney, Joe Amendola, has said that family members are among those that brought accusations against the former Penn State defensive coordinator. It's unclear if those investigations led to any charges.

The request says many of the 11 grandchildren have expressed sadness that they can't communicate with their grandfather, and asks that Sandusky be permitted to visit with them at his College Township, Centre County, home as long as one of their parents is present. The request, filed by his attorney Friday, also asks that he be allowed to talk on the phone, by text, or Skype with them.

The motion also requests that Sandusky be allowed to visit with friends at his home, and travel to meet his attorney and private investigators to work on his case.

The hearing has been scheduled for 10 a.m. Feb. 10 at the Centre County Courthouse.

The judge assigned to the case, John Cleland, has also given prosecutors until Feb. 3 to answer a different request by Sandusky's attorney for the names, addresses and ages of the accusers, along with exact dates and locations of where each alleged assault outlined in the grand jury presentment took place.

The Feb. 10 hearing will also address that issue.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexual; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; pedophile; pedophilia; pedostate; pennstate; sandusky
If Sandusky were properly in jail, his grandchildren could visit him there, there would be no Skype privileges, and he could see his attorney there as well. Will the judge realize this and keep things as they are, or will he cave?
1 posted on 01/27/2012 7:48:15 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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2 posted on 01/27/2012 7:59:13 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace
If Sandusky were properly in jail,

Generally, in the US, we wait until trial and a guilty verdict to jail people.

/johnny

3 posted on 01/27/2012 7:59:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tribune7

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4 posted on 01/27/2012 7:59:51 PM PST by randita
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To: JRandomFreeper

Typically, people accused of this many counts are given no bail and therefore would be in jail pending the trial.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 8:02:08 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: JRandomFreeper

IF you can post bail that is true.

IF I was charged with those crimes my bail would no doubt exceed the value of my net worth which is not $1.98.

Sandusky is getting special treatment as a rich sports figure.Nothing new.


6 posted on 01/27/2012 8:03:06 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: FamiliarFace

In Pennsylvania bail is set only to guarentee appearance in court. Except in capital murder cases the defendant is entitled to bail.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 8:06:41 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No, we jail potential (accused) miscreants, post them before a judge who sets bail or remands.


8 posted on 01/27/2012 8:07:19 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Generally, in the US, we wait until trial and a guilty verdict to jail people.

True enough. I've seen a lot of people go easy on Sandusky: he deserves his day in court. We will eventually decide if he is guilty and what his punishment might be.

Paterno, on the other hand, was found guilty without a trial, fired, humilated, and hounded to death. [shrug]

IMO, Sandusky has received much kinder treatment than Paterno and I cannot understand it.

9 posted on 01/27/2012 8:07:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me, and when the day breaks I'm in pieces.)
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10 posted on 01/27/2012 8:07:40 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: FamiliarFace
His attorney, Joe Amendola, has said that family members are among those that brought accusations against the former Penn State defensive coordinator. It's unclear if those investigations led to any charges.

Unclear to the news reporter, or they won't even tell Sandusky? "Hey, we're going to charge you with molestation." "Molestation of whom?" "That's for us to know and you to guess." I don't think so....

11 posted on 01/27/2012 8:08:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: FamiliarFace
The troubling part for me isn't him going to trial without retention or the judge maybe refusing him visitation rights....what troubles me is did the family bring accusations after he was arrested?

If they knew, and didn't bring this to the attention of the authorities, aren't they complicit???? Is Jerry (not saying he's innocent or quilty) wilingly taking the fall for a "family problem" and feels his grandchildren are in no more danger with him than with the grandchildren's families? This whole thing is a little odd.

12 posted on 01/27/2012 8:11:38 PM PST by Puckster
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To: ClearCase_guy

This is weird, but part of it may have been Paterno’s stonewalling in the presence of an indefinite stink. Stonewalling and hiding often incenses the public worse than being an open criminal does.


13 posted on 01/27/2012 8:12:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: doc1019
Didn't he get processed and post bail to ensure that he would be there for his court date? And weren't restrictions placed on him?

I'm ok with lawful justice working it's course.

Then, hang him if the verdict is guilty.

/johnny

14 posted on 01/27/2012 8:12:54 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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15 posted on 01/27/2012 8:14:04 PM PST by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Puckster

Could have been one of those “too ashamed to talk about it till now” situations. (I’d ping Salamander except she has expressly asked me not to do so. She suffered from molestation too and this saga tears her up.) In which case it seems a bit cheeky for Jerry to ask, at least this quickly, to be visiting with those folks. I’d think he’d respect their reticence.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 8:15:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: FamiliarFace
If he were my children's grandfather he wouldn't be in jail. He'd be six feet under. In fact, he would not have been able to have had an open casket. Just sayin’. If that makes me a bad mommy then so be it. I can take that rap. There are worse things that I could be accused of.
17 posted on 01/27/2012 8:29:40 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: lightman
Just as a comparison, a Philly high school baseball coach charged with sexually assaulting a 13-year-old boy, was ordered held on $2 million bail a few months before Sandusky was arrested.

Let me make it clear...that was for ONE victim, which earned the accused a $2 million bail. Several counts , but nowhere near the 52 counts against Sandusky for TEN alleged victims, over a 15 year period. Sandusky got about $4800 per count against him. This is why I think his bail was set extraordinarily low.

18 posted on 01/27/2012 8:32:25 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: goodwithagun

I’m right there with you on that.Evil needs to eradicated whenever and whereever its found.And I dont rely on the cops either.


19 posted on 01/27/2012 8:42:22 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: lightman
Oh, and amazingly, a month later the high school baseball coach was still in jail, since he hadn't come up with the bail at that point.

Coach remains jailed on $2 million bail

What a shame that he wasn't connected to the social elites in Philly like Sandusky is, or else his bail could've been reduced to something more "reasonable". You know, so he would show up at his court dates.

20 posted on 01/27/2012 8:50:31 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: FamiliarFace

Sandusky has been loudly (too loudly,IMHO) maintaining his innocence and has said repeatedly that he can’t wait for his date in court. There’s also a lot less flight risk from Centre County than from the Delaware valley.


21 posted on 01/27/2012 8:53:08 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: FamiliarFace

I guess he hasn’t raped enough children yet... he needs more meat for the grinder. Only an idiot would grant his request. The man is a serial pedophile rapist.


22 posted on 01/27/2012 8:55:05 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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In a just world, pedophiles would not be able to keep ruining children for years the way this sick fiend has done. And once a pedophile is discovered, justice would be swift and permanent.

23 posted on 01/27/2012 8:56:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Jmouse007

I pray that this judge is not an idiot, but many are. I suppose we’ll find out soon enough whether Sandusky gets even more privileges than being allowed to be on house arrest instead of being in jail like average citizens would be in the same circumstances.


24 posted on 01/27/2012 9:14:07 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: ClearCase_guy

The creep has already admitted to taking a young boy into the showers in a men’s locker room and having intentional contact with him. Y’all can debate the semantics of that while pervets like him continue to ruin kids lives. I say string him up now and get it over with


25 posted on 01/28/2012 6:37:57 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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I agree 100%.

My point was that two men involved in the case were treated differently by the press:

Sandusky -- took boys into showers and had illegal physical contact.
To my thinking, his name has not been in the press as much as it might have been. To some extent, people are withholding judgement. His case is working through the system, and we will eventually see what the outcome is. For me, this is surprisingly gentle treatment.

Paterno -- heard about the incident and reported the incident.
Tried immediately in the court of public opinion. Found guilty. Fired, humiliated. Became a household name for crimes against humanity. Hounded to death. Legacy forever tarnished by the unspeakable nature of his crimes. For me, this is surprisingly harsh treatment.

My opinion:

Sandusky, like all child molesters, should be executed.
Paterno, should have done more. But he's not a child molester. Why did we treat him worse than the actual child molester?

I think this case shows the Leftist culture in our society -- successful guy? Winning football coach? Let's destroy him and watch the people cheer as the mighty fall! We hate successful people and want bad things to happen to them.

That's not the America I grew up in.

26 posted on 01/28/2012 7:58:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me, and when the day breaks I'm in pieces.)
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This is weird, but part of it may have been Paterno’s stonewalling in the presence of an indefinite stink.

Sandusky is clearly the #1 villain here. But just because Sandusky's the homosexual pedophile doesn't mean others (living and dead) didn't play some part in the long story. Let's face it - another 'alleged' victim came forward to say he was raped by Sandusky in 2004 in the Lasch building (the Penn State football building), and Sandusky gave him Penn State football national championship memorabilia afterward. That's 2004. After the 2002 "McQeary saw him" incident and after PSU told him he couldn't bring children on campus but admitted it couldn't enforce the ban.

12,000 people attended the campus memorial service for Joe Paterno.

At the service, Joe's son Jay said:

"Joe Paterno left this world with a clear conscience."

12,000 people gave Jay Paterno a standing ovation for that comment.

They still don't get it in Happy Valley. Apparently Joe Paterno still didn't get it. It's a cult. Child victims? What child victims?

The same 12,000 people and Joe Paterno's widow, Sue, gave Phil Knight a standing ovation when he said:

"This much is clear to me: If there is a villain in this tragedy, it lies in that investigation and not in Joe Paterno's response."

27 posted on 01/28/2012 3:20:49 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: FamiliarFace

What do you want to bet that every single moms and dads will make sure they’re present in the very same rooms during the visits? At least they should...


28 posted on 01/28/2012 7:39:38 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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