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To: MHGinTN
What is the Gingrich party line about the Kerry/Gingrich Global Warming debate? I see a lot of pushback on the Pelosi Couch Trip, but not much about the Kerry "Debate".

Kerry, Gingrich debate global warming:

Gingrich said Kerry's new book, "This Moment on Earth: Today's New Environmentalists and Their Vision for the Future," is "a very interesting read" and said he agrees with 60 percent of it.
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Gingrich, the former House speaker, said a government cap amounts to more regulation and more lawsuits: "America changes much faster in the marketplace. We can move very rapidly if we're moving there as consumers."
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Kerry asked what Gingrich would say to Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., who calls global warming a hoax. "My message, I think, is that the evidence is sufficient that we should move toward the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon loading in the atmosphere," Gingrich replied.

John Kerry, Newt Gingrich take on Environment, Each Other:

But how they said they would tackle the global warming problem is where they differed.

Talking from a podium in the Russell Senate Office Building, Gingrich argued that a program including cash prizes, targeted tax cuts and other economic incentives will lure business entrepreneurs to develop technology to tackle the climate problem. He said that type of program would be faster than a bureaucratic government program because it will avoid the rush of special interests to avoid regulation and costly litigation.
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Gingrich began first with a concession to his opponent. Holding the new book by Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, Gingrich said, "This is a very good book. As a clearly right-wing reader, I would commend the book" as one that shows examples of local leadership on environmental issues. "I would agree with about 60 percent of this book," he added.
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Gingrich said he will be pushing for a way to deal with climate change that is not heavy on regulation — a point on which he criticized Kerry's plan. "I want to suggest that we need a new science- and technology-based, entrepreneurial, market-oriented and locally led environmentalism," Gingrich said.
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KERRY: "What would you say to Sen. Inhofe and others in the Senate who are resisting even science? What's your message to them here today?"
GINGRICH: "My message, I think is that the evidence is sufficient that we should move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon loading in the atmosphere —"
KERRY:"And do it urgently, now?"
GINGRICH:"Urgently, yes"
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Gingrich said there must be a "green conservatism." "There has to be a willingness to stand up and say, alright, here's the right way to solve these as seen by our values system," Gingrich said. Gingrich said there needs to be more money available in the form of incentives to find better ways of bringing forward new technology.

Politifact (cited only to get quote from Kerry/Gingrich debate:
"We should address it and we should address it very actively," [Gingrich] said in the debate, citing a UN report documenting the earth’s rising temperatures. "The … consensus is that humans have contributed to that. I don't think there's any consensus that we are the only contribution, but there is a clear agreement that human activity has helped increase the level of warmness."
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"And cap-and-trade, by the way, for sulfuric acid and acid rain -- which I voted for and helped pass as the Republican whip -- was a very definable number of plants. A carbon cap in trade, if it's universal, is enormously complicated and transfers an amazing amount of power to a Washington bureaucracy and will create, inevitably, winners and losers and will become politicized overnight."
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"I'm not automatically saying that coercion and bureaucracy isn't an answer. I just don't think it's as positive and as creative an answer as market incentives in terms of getting the kind of change we want."

FreeRepublic Discussion: Flashback: Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees... -- Although it wasn't much of a discussion, nobody posted a comment dealing with what Newt said, it was mostly a Perry-bashing session.

YouTube video -- 7 minutes of the Gingrich/Kerry debate -- Heavily edited though; can't find a full debate video, but it should be in the c-span archives somewhere.

It is possible to simply accept that what Gingrich says now is what he will do, and to trust him. It is hard to ignore everything he said in the past 5 years, or pretend he said the opposite of what we see him saying.

30 posted on 01/28/2012 9:35:33 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Shills like you seem to think Newt Gingrich was supposed to know the ‘globull warming evidence’ was false. I take it you’re so smart that you have known by scientific evidence right from the start that global warming is not occurring. ... And if you say that, you’re a liar. People like you make me sick. What you’re doing is deceit, plain and simple. Newt Gingrich does believe humans need to clean up our polluting of the environments. He at one time and for a few years believed the supposed evidence from lying scientists that gloabl warming is a fact and that it is caused by human fuel consumption. Since the scientists have been exposed as frauds and liars working the system for research funds and fame, Newt has gone on the record several times and in various nevues to admit he was fooled just like you were at the start. The poisoning of our environment, on the other hand, is very real and Newt has stuck his neck out to address that, only to have deceitful people like you try to anil him with what he said before the refutational evidence came to light. You haven’t changed your spots, liar.


31 posted on 01/28/2012 10:42:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Shills like you seem to think Newt Gingrich was supposed to know the 'globull warming evidence' was false. I take it you're so smart that you have known by scientific evidence right from the start that global warming is not occurring. ... And if you say that, you're a liar. People like you make me sick.

What you're doing is deceit, plain and simple. Newt Gingrich does believe humans need to clean up our polluting of the environments. He at one time and for a few years believed the supposed evidence from lying scientists that gloabl warming is a fact and that it is caused by human fuel consumption.

Since the scientists have been exposed as frauds and liars working the system for research funds and fame, Newt has gone on the record several times and in various nevues to admit he was fooled just like you were at the start.

The poisoning of our environment, on the other hand, is very real and Newt has stuck his neck out to address that, only to have deceitful people like you try to nail him with what he said before the refutational evidence came to light. You haven't changed your spots, liar.

32 posted on 01/28/2012 10:43:38 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

BTW, you little nettle, the Kerry Gingrich debate was in April 2007. when did you find out evidence that global warming was not happening?


33 posted on 01/28/2012 10:46:21 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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