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Confirmed: Romneycare = Obamacare
Michelle Malkin ^ | 1/26/12 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 01/28/2012 1:22:19 AM PST by OPS4

The Beacon Hill Institute study found that, on average, Romneycare:

•    cost the Bay State 18,313 jobs;

•    drove up total health insurance costs in Massachusetts by $4.311 billion;

•    slowed the growth of disposable income per person by $376; and

•    reduced investment in Massachusetts by $25.06 million.

And remember that RomneyCare relied on FedGovCare as a sturdy crutch: “He also noted the state’s health-care costs have been heavily subsidized by billions of dollars in federal aid through a Medicaid waiver program.”

(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: elections; florida; healthcare; liarromney; obamacare; romney; romney4dnc; romney4obama; romney4obamacare; romneyalwayslies; romneybringsdeath; romneycare; romneycareobamacare; romneydeathpanels; romneyisaliar; romneytheliar
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Romney still Defends this mess, and his pal norm Coleman says Romney will not abolish all of Obamacare. If he is still defending he will not abolish Obamacare.
1 posted on 01/28/2012 1:22:26 AM PST by OPS4
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To: OPS4

Lot of stupid Repubs still defending as well.


2 posted on 01/28/2012 1:33:17 AM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: cricket

Stupid no, Rinos yes, and Dems masquerading as Republicans.


3 posted on 01/28/2012 1:35:07 AM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord)
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To: OPS4

So angry about this primary. We are going down in flames, losing our freedoms while some of these knuckle headed voters are worried about Newt’s third wife instead of saving the nation first. Not long, we are not even going to be America. People need to read the details of Obamacare. It’s very scary. Pam Bondi, the current attorney general in Florida who is set to argue the Obamacare case in the Supreme Court as being unconstitutional (cannot force a citizen to buy health care) then she defends Romneycare as a great state plan. She even went further to say that she would be on federal health care panel to make sure all Americans have some type of health care, I guess. I had to clear my eyes while she was talking, to see if that was Hillary lite. What planet are they from-what a nightmare. Maybe the moon would be a nicer place :) God help us.


4 posted on 01/28/2012 1:37:26 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: OPS4

And yet, look at Mitt Romney’s poll numbers! IMHO, Mitt Romney shouldn’t, even, be a first tier candidate for ‘12 POTUS, because of all of the problems related to RomneyCare, alone! Too many non-leftist voters continue to not do their homework about Mitt Romney and his positions on the issues-both past issues and present issues, while, also, not liking Newt Gingrich, with all of Newt’s personal baggage and with all of Newt’s political baggage.


5 posted on 01/28/2012 1:39:42 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: OPS4

You know, I am thinking I would rather have obamma as president than Romney. With obamma you know what you are getting and can fight him head-on. With Romney, the guy cannot be trusted, period. He changes his mind which ever way the political winds are blowing. He has no principles!


6 posted on 01/28/2012 1:50:57 AM PST by rawhide
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To: OPS4

I’m from MA—it’s a complete disaster, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

I don’t know anyone who likes it, or even knows what the heck it’s costing the state.


7 posted on 01/28/2012 1:57:13 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: Christie at the beach
Yes, saw that and was both disgusted and amazed at the contradiction she fails to recognize. No doubt, Pam reassured many however; by her commitment. Meantime; the truth per the real issues is deliberately obscured in the only real public forums available 'by debates'.

Am beginning to wonder how it is; that Repubs agree to these debates. The MSM controls the questions; and so the answers; at least per the spin they put on them; while the real issues/challenges are then largely untouched. Amazing to behold; this chicken/egg farce; that so fashions Repub dialog and information shared.

Meantime; the clock is running; and Repubs are spinning; and the Dems, are laughing at their 'win/win'; because we are doing Obama's Campaign, for him.

8 posted on 01/28/2012 2:15:01 AM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Romney’s money is corrupting Republicans wherever he goes.


9 posted on 01/28/2012 2:28:02 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: OPS4
Mr 0b0t0 tole us that some time ago.

I understand why no one would take his word for it!

10 posted on 01/28/2012 2:28:05 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: SatinDoll
Yeah, a lot of influence peddling..

One thing about this, we are seeing the liberal republicans

for what they are. Like Rubio, won his seat with the help of the Tea Party. Where is he? Defending Romney. They get in office and they give us the shaft and become these wimpy representatives.

11 posted on 01/28/2012 2:39:53 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: cricket

I agree 100%. Great comments.


12 posted on 01/28/2012 2:41:36 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: OPS4

But, but, but, Pam Bondi says it’s not.


13 posted on 01/28/2012 3:21:09 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: cricket

I’m in Florida and Pam admittied on a FNC program last night (Greta?) that she has already been offered a position on Romney’s team to help “dismantle” O=Care.

Isn’t that illegal? - sounds like pay to play to me.


14 posted on 01/28/2012 3:23:40 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Christie at the beach
/Thanks./

Do think we need a mutiny of sorts. Certainly, Newt has tried to break out and challenge Media; but lest he be labeled as 'out of control'; he must stay within 'acceptable' debate parameters.

Am having this recurring thought; that by time Campaign season in full swing; and debate challenges are pushing Obama; that he will have a 'crisis' - of convenience or make sure we have a real one - and he will claim 'pressing matters' make it impossible for him to debate issues; and will just offer that he stands on his record.

Whatever the case; we had better prepare for 'ugly'; like we have not seen before.

One thing we do know for certain; our opposition WILL do; ANYthing to hold onto the power they have sucked from our Country and Constitution. There will be no 'going gently'; should the Election so dictate. Allowing that we have one. . .

Ready for my 'chill pill'/lol. . .

15 posted on 01/28/2012 3:38:43 AM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: cricket

What’s going on today is determining Order of Allegiance.

The TeaPariers, Palins, JimRobinsons, FR’s, Cains, Perrys, FredThomas’s are Conservatives first, then, and ONLY then, republicans.

The Roves, Coulters, Priebuses, Christies, Crists, Romeny’s, Drudges, and the like are Republicans first, then, and ONLY then, conservative.

[I’ve left out of the above listing Newt. He is the vessel of the first group, and our next challenge is to ensure his order of allegiance is: The First Group, then, and ONLY then, the second group.]


16 posted on 01/28/2012 4:09:04 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: OPS4

Romney is a vulture parasite who steals company
money, commits fraud as he/BAIN steal from the Commonwealth
and country, and then he fires the people
and socializes the remnant.

The GOP is now tied for
THE most disgusting party in America.


17 posted on 01/28/2012 4:25:42 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: OPS4

He will be leggless in a debate with zipperhead and Obamacare and they know it and so do the rino’s. Romney the white Obama


18 posted on 01/28/2012 5:08:40 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: OPS4

http://www.baincapitalprivateequity.com/Investments/432/HCA

Bill Frist, medical doctor and former Republican Senate Majority Leader (2003 - 2007), said Tuesday that he’s for fixing not nixing ObamaCare.

Frist’s father and brother founded Hospital Corporation of America, the “largest private operator of health care facilities in the world.” His brother, nephews and other members of his extended family own significant stakes in the company, which is eyeing a public stock offering to resolve looming debt issues. With ObamaCare, hospitals forecast less uncompensated care (bad debt) and their stock prices have been rising accordingly. The “improved prospects for publicly traded hospitals appear to have inspired the owners of HCA to take the company public” again.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/frist_obamacare_beautiful_on_p.html

The RinoCrat Oligarchy have themselves invested in Bain...and their personal financial security is probably depenedent on its success...which is in turn dependent upon a Romney Candidacy.

Think Madoff...but with legislative leverage to meet the calls....


19 posted on 01/28/2012 5:10:34 AM PST by mo
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To: OPS4
Romney will die (politically) defending RomneyCare which is even worse than ObamaCare. Once the states see what is going on, democrat states will begin to do their own socialist medical mess on healthcare.

I am for going back to patient-doctor transactions only.....nothing else but a competitive free market. Local doctor, local pharmacy, local hospital. No health insurance company, No ObamaCare.

20 posted on 01/28/2012 5:53:20 AM PST by Rapscallion (Beware that we do not allow a Gestapo to form and call it Homeland Security.)
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To: OPS4

"I bet you $10,000 that my utterly
mindless maid, here, absolutely supports RomneyCARE AND deathpanels,
and especially the fact that Romneycare cost the Bay State 18,313 jobs;
drove up total health insurance costs in Massachusetts by $4.311 billion;
collapsed disposable income per person by $376; and
even reduced investment in Massachusetts by $25.06 million
,
and the mindless twit supports my coverup of the BIG DIG AND my backstabbing of GOP candidates through surrogates,
(Thank me, she even jumps right in to attack them)
and she especially LOVES my imposition of gay marriage by
my personal order under improper Executive Authority,
and my support of TARP and Sharia,
and my making money from the 911 Victory Mosque.
These are things that make us 'conservative'."

21 posted on 01/28/2012 5:54:55 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx; JediJones

Malkin gets it..Wonder if she has the same information FR has?


22 posted on 01/28/2012 5:58:20 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Darkwolf377
I’m from MA—it’s a complete disaster, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. I don’t know anyone who likes it, or even knows what the heck it’s costing the state.

Worcester MA dittos.

23 posted on 01/28/2012 6:00:03 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Reagan69

Didn’t Pam Bondi say that she was promised a position in Romney’s administration if he’s elected? I think she sold out.


24 posted on 01/28/2012 6:13:55 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: hoosiermama

Malkin probably reads FR.
She is very bright, a core Conservative and yes, gets it.


25 posted on 01/28/2012 6:27:05 AM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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To: OPS4

Just imagine what GingrichCare would cost.

It’s kind of amazing that every candidate that decided to get in this year left so much to be desired.


26 posted on 01/28/2012 6:32:51 AM PST by justabrokestudent
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To: Christie at the beach

It seems grossly irresponsible on her part while she’s prosecuting this case. It gives the Obama attorneys a huge opening to quote her statements in interviews like this and perhaps pull out the Florida constitution, and make a case to how Obomneycare is no more a contradiction to the U.S. constitution than it is to Florida’s. She ought to be run out of office for jeopardizing the case for selfish political gain.


27 posted on 01/28/2012 6:35:12 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: SatinDoll

Romney corrupts. Absolute Romney corrupts absolutely.

You can’t spell “Romney” without “R” “MONEY”!


28 posted on 01/28/2012 6:36:55 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: CynicalBear; Mountain Mary
Yes, she was on Greta after the bus segment with Newt. Jr has posted a thread on it or you can go to the live Greta thread for first reactions and research info.

Bondi like many others have been either paid or offered positions for their endorsement....Links to supportive information on this statement is posted to both threads mentioned above.

29 posted on 01/28/2012 6:39:37 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: C210N

Hit: Check out Clear Channel, who owns it and who it owns. It will explain a lot.


30 posted on 01/28/2012 6:44:36 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: JediJones

In my opinion, Bondi didn’t even do a very good job defending R-care which tells you it is indefensible. She was rattling off all the ‘good’ things R-care has done like “lower costs” - she actually said it “will” lower cost as if it hasn’t been implemented yet - ‘lawyer speak’ so she technically wasn’t lying, I guess. It was a disgusting performance. She came across just like Romney does - inauthentic and lying. She even took a snarky shot at Newt & Greta, who had just interviewed him on his bus, said she was ‘taking the last word’ and actually slapped back at Bondi somewhat by letting everyone know that the AG Bondi succeeded, Bill McCollum, is heading up the committee for Newt in FL. Good for Greta & Bondi is a Mittbot of the worst kind.


31 posted on 01/28/2012 6:46:51 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: cricket

I have had a few Republicans telling me I am not being rational by preferring Newt over Romney. One of them I used to offer a ride home to as I go his way. Friday he walked home in the rain.


32 posted on 01/28/2012 6:59:21 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: OPS4

Thanks for the posting . Boy the deficatious oder oozing from Mitts Florid-a outhouse into this ranking campaign is amazing. Plus Newt’s tv rebuttal buys are being held up at local stations and here’s a guy (Willard) who can’t even call Obama a “socialist”. We’re in deep do-do if Willard makes it.

This is where leaflet distribution plays an major role.


33 posted on 01/28/2012 7:03:40 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: rawhide

I agree.


35 posted on 01/28/2012 7:10:43 AM PST by KansasGirl (Romney to Santorum: Obamneycare "nothing to get angry about".)
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To: Boardwalk

LOL There are several good links and articles here on FR. Copy them off and send them to him

I’m on one right now that exposes the large fines Bain got for medicare fraud..Seems the “don’t attack capitalism” meme was hiding more of his corruption.


36 posted on 01/28/2012 7:14:31 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: MissMagnolia

She was reading from notes....Wonder who gave her the notes?


37 posted on 01/28/2012 7:17:01 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: C210N
Like it. The 'allegiance' aspect works. Think you have pretty much outlined the 'establishment' Repubs (northeastern establishment) versus the Tea Party folks and 'populists' who fall outside that classification.

Heretofore, and save for veiled hints/threats; the 'inside/establishment' had not openly; put a target on the Tea Party/Populists/God and Guns folks/or just Conservative Republicans. Nor; had we put an ugly face on them.

No question, now; as Repub candidates move forward; that battle lines have been drawn and we recognize the face of our own Repub enemies 'within'.

38 posted on 01/28/2012 7:18:18 AM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: hoosiermama
Wonder who gave her the notes?

Hmmmm..... I wonder ..... /s. BTW, she wasn't reading all that well as if she wasn't totally familiar with the material. I always liked Bondi when she was on Greta talking about the O-care SCOTUS case, but she was nauseating last night.

39 posted on 01/28/2012 7:20:54 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MissMagnolia
I mentioned on the live thread last night that she was almost acting like a jilted lover (or she was a dumb blond)

She exposed too much information: the offer of the position, mentioning she was reading from notes thereby bring attention to the fact, even reading the notes poorly.

If it possible she found out he was courting others and she was just one of many of willard’s.....political whores.
Got to admit it would be a good way of exposing him...all the time playing innocent dumb blond.

40 posted on 01/28/2012 7:32:33 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: OPS4

someone should send that memo to Bondi.


41 posted on 01/28/2012 7:55:56 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: Boardwalk
. . .had a few Republicans telling me I am not being rational by preferring Newt over Romney. One of them I used to offer a ride home to as I go his way. Friday he walked home in the rain.

Oh, that is good/lol. I just picked up paper and saw Ann Coulter's column: Romney is the True Conservative Really enough to make one scream. . .

. ..thought to myself; I really AM going to get rid of her books, that I bought over the years. Did not read them, for most part; just wanted to support a 'good Conservative' telling the truth about Libs./

I will give them to Good Will; however; in case a now favored Liberal; decides to hear what she had to say about them; when she was still honest.

Who knew then; she hated the 'outside the Beltway'/and so non-establishment Repubs; as much as she hated Liberals.

(Save when we bought her books, that is. Seems we were good for something.)

42 posted on 01/28/2012 7:56:42 AM PST by cricket (America restored;. . .Newt CAN make it happen.)
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To: hoosiermama
'......Check out "Clear Channel", who owns it and who it owns. It will explain a lot.

I saw that yesturday and wanted to throw mud! No wonder Bain story went flat....the pundits are owned and Romney bots like it or not.. they are bought and paid for.

It all boils down to "show me the money"....they're all selling out!

43 posted on 01/28/2012 7:58:31 AM PST by caww
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To: OPS4

I like Rick a lot .

Rick went back to PA and hopefully we will do what Perry did and put the country first and if he does can you imagine the enormous respect Rick would get if he drops out now and helps Newt?

I really hope this is what Rick will do and tell his voters to remember Govt health care and the judges Romney has put on the bench, the social issues where Romney and establishment now have given up .


44 posted on 01/28/2012 8:01:13 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: cricket

Its not the same. One is a states rights issue, one is not. Even if the law was exactly the same - word for word. I don’t like either law, however a state has a lot of power. I dont feel a state has a right to mandate things but the state mandate things all the time. You must have a drivers license, gun license (in nj), you must pay your property tax, etc. However everything is still optional. You are not mandated to have a gun or a car but your not mandated to live in MA either.


45 posted on 01/28/2012 8:02:21 AM PST by cdnerds
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To: Reagan69

the establishment has pulled out all the dirty tricks to beat the conservatives.

They have been taking 2,200 tickets in the last debate out of 3,000 and putting their stoogies on there, they have been lying like mad and helping Romney, they have been getting to some on talk radio and the websites , they have been buying off reps to back their RINO.

Seems them living up in the north east and the beltway and going to their elitist cocktail, cross dressing , homosexual parties and taking money off the queer groups is more important than the base of the party now.
They do not want Newt because they know they cannot control him, they know he will shake things up, he will stop their little elitist circles and he will fight the left and call a spade a spade or in this case a socialist is a socialist.


46 posted on 01/28/2012 8:06:10 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Darkwolf377

misses is from there and she has family up in Taunton, MA and pals in Quincy MA and she has said that a couple of her family have had to pay fines and have said it makes no sense .

Not one of her pals or family likes what Romn ey has done there and when she watched the debate and hear RINO say people like it I thought she was about to dive in to the TV, EEK


47 posted on 01/28/2012 8:09:35 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: hoosiermama

isn;’t that the liberal move on channel?


48 posted on 01/28/2012 8:11:10 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: manc

Not quite....Do more research....Start with wikipedia


49 posted on 01/28/2012 8:17:32 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Darkwolf377

Am I to understand that the plan is destroying Mass’ economy in terms of jobs and investment and MASS HASN’T EVEN BEEN PAYING FOR IT? IT’S BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SO THE IMPACT WILL BE EVEN WORSE WHEN THEY HAVE TO BEGIN PAYING THEIR OWN BILLS?


50 posted on 01/28/2012 8:57:01 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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