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Romney’s negative ratings soaring among independents (Mitt Proving He's Unelectable)
The Washington Post ^ | 1-27-2012 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 01/28/2012 7:28:40 AM PST by TitansAFC

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I’ve got a new partisan breakdown of some numbers from the new NBC/WSJ poll, and here’s the verdict: Romney’s unfavorability rating among independents has spiked 20 points in the last two months.

The poll found that among overall Americans, Romney is rated very or somewhat positively by 31 percent, while he’s rated very or somewhat negatively by 36 percent............

In November, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 22 percent of independents.

In December, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 29 percent of independents.

And in the new poll, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 42 percent of independents — 20 points higher than two months ago.

Also: In November, Romney was beating Obama 47-34 among those voters. Now the numbers are upside down: Obama is beating Romney 44-36.

(A recent Post/ABC News poll also found Romney’s negative rating among independent had jumped to 51 percent.)...........

“Romney’s lack of connection with average people and Obama’s improving numbers on the economy account for the turnaround with independents,” Hart said.

“It’s not as though they have said Bain has disqualified him or that he can’t be trusted because of his taxes — but this has created a gulf between him and the average voter,” Hart said. “Bain and the taxes just reinforce the sense that this person is in a different world. If you’re an independent voter not driven by partisanship, you read all the other tea leaves to decide who is going to fight your fight.”

“When he was only the opponent of Obama, he was getting the independent vote as the alternative,” Hart says. “Now they see him in full relief, and they’re saying, `This isn’t my guy.’

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: florida; gop; newt; polls; romney

1 posted on 01/28/2012 7:28:46 AM PST by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

I believe that the RINOCRATS will force this liberal sack of crap on us.

He will lose 60/40.

I will laugh. My laughter will be tinged with a little sadness knowing that a conservative would have beaten Obama, but that since the RINOCRATS choose to not be conservative any longer, they choose electoral death.

I hope the new party that rises from these ashes does not sell out like a common street whore....like the RINOCRATS.


2 posted on 01/28/2012 7:35:01 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: TitansAFC

He looks like a desperate whiney loser

He does not ACT at all Presidential

When Gingrich stares him down he looks weak and pathetic

Can you imagine that type of behavior in a debate with Obambi? Orchestrated by libtard media?


3 posted on 01/28/2012 7:36:58 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: TitansAFC

Romney supports Obamacare and will allow it to stand and has flip flopped on major conserative policies and political parties so much that he looks much like a typical democrat.


4 posted on 01/28/2012 7:37:06 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: TitansAFC

This rejects the notion made by Ann Coulter and the etsablishment GOP INCLUDING Chris Christie, Nikki Haley and Marco Rubio that Mittens is the most electable GOP candidate.

It’s Not About Newt

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/its_not_about_newt.html


5 posted on 01/28/2012 7:37:27 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: kindred

How can he be “the most electable” when most of the GOP wants someone else.


6 posted on 01/28/2012 7:38:27 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Grunthor

Why are you handing so much perceived power to the RINOs?

We’re in a contest.

We are going to win. Never give up.


7 posted on 01/28/2012 7:39:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (1/26/12: Replaced my drudge.rino link, with "Townhall.com". Buh bye Matt.)
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To: TitansAFC
Greg Sargent

"..Greg Sargent writes The Plum Line blog, a reported opinion blog with a liberal slant -- what you might call “opinionated reporting” from the left. He joined the Post in early 2009, after stints at Talking Points Memo, New York Magazine and the New York Observer..."

8 posted on 01/28/2012 7:43:13 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“We are going to win.”

Ok. Explain how.


9 posted on 01/28/2012 7:45:39 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

All of that is quite true. It does not unfortunately affect the reality of the numbers.


10 posted on 01/28/2012 7:47:10 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: TitansAFC; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; Sun; AuntB; LdSentinal; ...

This is what the Establishment calls an electable candidate who appeals to Independents? Those insiders are becoming more tone deaf with every election cycle.


11 posted on 01/28/2012 7:47:52 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Grunthor

(sigh)

By believing it.

And by never giving up. Ever.


12 posted on 01/28/2012 7:50:20 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (1/26/12: Replaced my drudge.rino link, with "Townhall.com". Buh bye Matt.)
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To: Grunthor

I don’t know if the United States can survive a second Obama term.


13 posted on 01/28/2012 7:51:22 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: TitansAFC

If Romney had been unopposed for the nomination, this would have happened in the Fall, when it would be too late. It is better that it happens now. Conservatives haven’t finished vetting Romney.


14 posted on 01/28/2012 7:54:27 AM PST by Kennard
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To: Grunthor
NBC Nightly’s lead story was that women would reject Newt 2 to 1. If true, this is a worrisome statistic.
15 posted on 01/28/2012 8:01:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I highly respect your faith. The onslaught of the MSM and “news” sources like FAUX Snooze, they are all Romney, all the time. If they show Newt, it is in a bad light, very short and unflattering. If one were to time the soundbites, pundits, etc, for Romney, the ratio would be about 80% Romney, 20% split evenly between Santorum and Newt.

Even in this scenario, the race in Florida will be very close, and it seems that Romney has done some early ballot box stuffing, with the early voting/absentee propaganda. And since Romney has been the only candidate pouring millions for months into Florida, on brainwashing ads about how “Conservative” Romney is and how he will part the seas and walk on water, we can be assured that Romney will either win or tie.

I hope you can muster a miracle for our side, I hope we can myself. One thing we can expect, is this primary will be razor-thin close.

16 posted on 01/28/2012 8:03:53 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: TitansAFC

Funny deal,
For weeks now we’ve been subjected to anti Newt adds on every form of media here in Florida.
Mitt’s PAC doing most but I’ve heard that obammy’s people also are running anti Newt adds here.
Sooo why are oboingos folks helping knock out Newt??


17 posted on 01/28/2012 8:04:08 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Women hate Obama as well. They might give Gingrich a chance as they are not seeing things well these days.


18 posted on 01/28/2012 8:07:57 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
That's a bunch of crap. In all so these “surveys” where Women hate Newt, another unbiased survey will show the exact opposite. Look at SC. Newt was supposed to be hated by women there by at least 3 to 1. And the real statistics as well as the vote, showed the opposite.

The MSM wants Romney as our candidate. Because Romney can't get over 25% support no matter how hard he lies or tries.
Obama will trounce Romney in the General and the MSM knows it.

19 posted on 01/28/2012 8:09:23 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Joe Boucher

Newt needs to remind the Villages and Palm Coast that Obongo just loosed 500B in Medicare.


20 posted on 01/28/2012 8:11:54 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

self-ping


21 posted on 01/28/2012 8:15:42 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Grunthor
Ok. Explain how.

By sprinkling magical fairy dust on it, of course.

22 posted on 01/28/2012 8:17:09 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We need to bleed this SOB dry from now until the convention. Make him pay dearly for every vote and leave him penniless and unelectable for the general election. You want to play hard ball Mittco? We can do that.


23 posted on 01/28/2012 8:18:47 AM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The early voting started last Saturday. Saturday’s polls showed Gingrich blowing far ahead of Romney and the story was how Newt took on the media and crushed them. The polls in Florida shifted overnight and Newt was suddenly in the lead by 8. The point is - this is the most recent thought in everybody’s mind who voted from Saturday to at least Wednesday, when the Romney carpetbombing machine kicked in again.

Nobody can really know what the early vote tally looks like because the polling has been so volatile. What we do know is that Newt had an overwhelming surge last week that carried into the Florida race. Now, Santorum has left, and Newt has the entire remaining 4 days to convince conservatives that we can win. The polls will tighten by Monday. Santorum’s early exit was a tacit concession. Look who he aimed both barrels at on Thursday.

Newt won with women in SC, and the wild swing the media is pushing over the last week is either a distraction, or a sign that voters still are moving. Watch Newt’s interview last night with Greta. You will see a very calm, assured Newt who has internal polls that show him within reach. His campaign path is simply fishing where the fish are. I think he can very well win this!


24 posted on 01/28/2012 8:22:58 AM PST by untwist
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To: Clintonfatigued

“I don’t know if the United States can survive a second Obama term.”

Obama or Romney....we get one.


25 posted on 01/28/2012 8:23:55 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

He won women in South Carolina, married women as well.


26 posted on 01/28/2012 8:24:42 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
If they show Newt, it is in a bad light, very short and unflattering.

Actually, Greta did very good interview of Newt on FNC last night. And it definitely didn't put Newt in a bad light, in fact he looked and sounded like our next POTUS.

27 posted on 01/28/2012 8:24:56 AM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Grunthor
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Survey (page 10 see 2012)

From the article at WP:

"..The poll found that among overall Americans, Romney is rated very or somewhat positively by 31 percent, while he’s rated very or somewhat negatively by 36 percent..."

Newt is rated very or somewhat positively by 26 percent. Newt is rated very or somewhat negatively by 38 percent.

Sorry, Newt has worse numbers. Anything you read from an operator like that is bound to be filled with lies and omissions.

28 posted on 01/28/2012 8:27:13 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: TitansAFC

This is what Democrats have known even before the days of McLame’s contest with Mitt. Obama wants nothing less than to run against Mitt. He wants this because he knows he will win if he’s the GOP nominee.

Equally bad is that Democrats AND the MSM in collusion have succeeded in keeping elitist GOP sympathizers into believing that only a moderat GOP candidate can beat Obama. These are the same elitists, from Fox to Washington Times, to NRO to Coulter to Drudge (yes, I agree now), to every other loser sychopant supposedly-conservative pundit or functionary that walks (or wheels) the streets of our cities.

So, what’s to do? With Mitt you get Obama Lite and collusion with the elitist poweratti from both parties. With Newt, we’ll get drama - but we’ll be able to stop Obama. We’ll just have to stand fast and blast President Newt each time he tries to backslide for amnesty. Controlled borders - yes, amnesty for any illegal - NO. So, vote for Newt despite the attacks. Welcome the attacks, accept them, diffuse them early, call it OLD news in August and September and give him money if he’s still in it by April.


29 posted on 01/28/2012 8:31:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
NBC Nightly’s lead story was that women would reject Newt 2 to 1. If true, this is a worrisome statistic.

They said the same thing before South Carolina......wasn't true then, it's not true now.

Don't believe the scare tactics.

30 posted on 01/28/2012 8:35:30 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“Sorry, Newt has worse numbers. Anything you read from an operator like that is bound to be filled with lies and omissions.”

As long as you hold the same opinon when you see a poll that shows good news for Newt and bad for Romney, I have no argument.


31 posted on 01/28/2012 8:40:39 AM PST by Grunthor (I don't vote for Democrats, this includes Mitt Romney.)
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To: Grunthor

I hope you are wrong. I fear you are right.


32 posted on 01/28/2012 9:08:19 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Gov. Perry did the right thing, in the right way, for the right reasons. Not everyone is that big.)
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To: Grunthor
The new Romney polls are horrible.
‘in the new poll, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 42 percent of independents’
In November, Romney was beating Obama 47-34 among those voters.
Now the numbers are upside down: Obama is beating Romney 44-36.’
Mr Romney, with these plummeting numbers, will take a lot of the Republican Congress, Governorships, and State Legislatures with him in a political kamikaze dive.
Though tempted, I will refrain from posting in large font or in colors. That kind of cheap glitz lowers the quality of the discussion but does reflect on the poster.
TWB
33 posted on 01/28/2012 9:12:22 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Jobs, Peace, Food, Security .... Down with Obama(Peacefully))
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To: Mr. K
"most of the GOP" ??

The point in the article is that the Establishment is NOT "most of the GOP".

34 posted on 01/28/2012 9:18:42 AM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Grunthor

I believe that the RINOCRATS will force this liberal sack of crap on us.

***

No, they won’t.


35 posted on 01/28/2012 9:24:13 AM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

NBC Nightly’s lead story was that women would reject Newt 2 to 1. If true, this is a worrisome statistic.

***

Never ask the left what they think of a conservative. Remember “a million back alley abortions” was the reason for Roe vs. Wade? Totally made up lie.


36 posted on 01/28/2012 9:27:41 AM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: eyedigress

Turth be damned,
Truth is what you can get folks to believe.
Media does a great job for oboingo.


37 posted on 01/28/2012 9:55:01 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: eyedigress
"Newt needs to remind the Villages and Palm Coast that Obongo just loosed 500B in Medicare."

He needs to remind them of this, too:

Of all the candidates, Newt is a Tea Partier from way back! --1994--

House Minority Whip Gingrich and 7th District congressional candidate Brenda Fitzgerald throw mock tea crates into the Chattahoochee River on April 15, 1994, as part of a "Taxpayer's Tea party" in Roswell, Georgia.

HERE: "Mitt Romney predicts tea party will turn on Newt Gingrich" ~ By Associated Press Saturday, December 17, 2011

TAX DAY 1994 - Politicians play with ire - Gingrich , others stage stunts touting frugality
The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution - Saturday, April 16, 1994
Author: ALEXANDER, KATHEY, Kathey Alexander STAFF WRITER: STAFF

As procrastinators put the finishing touches on their tax returns Friday, politicians across the nation carried out carefully crafted stunts aimed at landing the votes of irate taxpayers.

In Roswell, U.S. House Minority Whip Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) touted fiscal conservatism by staging a mock tea party on the banks of the Chattahoochee River . Conservative Republicans tossed empty produce crates into the river in symbolic re-enactment of the incident in Boston 221 years ago when colonists dressed as Indians dumped tea into the harbor in rebellion against the government.

More than 200 similar rallies occurred throughout the country, including Boston, San Francisco and Detroit , as candidates used the tax filing deadline as a forum for one-upsmanship on frugality.

“Americans literally work every day for months just to pay for a government that wastes their money,” said Gingrich , who is seeking re-election from the 6th district. “On the day taxes are due, we should remind you that you have every right as a citizen to protect yourself, your family and your wallet with your vote.”

(snip) HERE:--56posted on Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:38:18 AMby maggief

38 posted on 01/28/2012 10:05:57 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Grunthor

Wpman here who will vote for Newt, but will NOT vote for Mitt.


39 posted on 01/28/2012 10:25:08 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

GOP “establishment” = Classmates of the DNC.

They’re the same (low) class of whore, just trolling different sides of the same street.

They can all eat sh*t and die!


40 posted on 01/28/2012 11:07:15 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: TitansAFC

BISHOP MITT ROMNEY, HIGH PRIEST AND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

Bernard Francis Law for President of the United States? Why would one anyone be opposed? Archbishop Law presided over Boston’s Roman Catholic Churches, which had overlapped Mitt Romney’s rule over Mormon churches in the same area. Secularized America, now in a Fourth Great Awakening, is considering missionary- pastor-archpriest-bishop Romney as a serious candidate for Commander in Chief. Surely Christopher Hitchens would not be pleased.

Beginning in the mid 1980s, Romney served for nearly ten years as bishop over the Boston Mormon churches where he directed over a dozen congregations. Romney said that his experience as a pastor gave him practical experience working with the down and out.

According to the Mormon religion, the presidential candidate became an ordained priest of Aaron when he was a teenager. A Mormon priest is the authority and power of God Himself. The Aaronic Priesthood holds the key of ministering angels by teaching doctrines of the church – the Mormon church that is. Priests of Aaron are called “to administer the law of carnal commandments.” Mitt’s cousin, Marion Romney, wrote in his revised edition of the Doctrines and Covenants Commentary that the Mormon priesthood was no different than the relationship between Aaron and Moses in the Bible. Aaron was a spokesman “instead of God;” we assume that Mormon priest Mitt Romney considers himself one as well.

High Priest and Bishop ... and President of the USA?

The ministering of angels aspect of the Aaronic Priesthood is quite powerful according to Mormon authorities: “…the action of angels or messengers of God upon our minds, so that the heart can conceive things past, present, and to come, and revelations from the eternal world, is, among a majority of mankind, a great mystery…” Thus saith Mitt Romney’s cousin, Marion, who was a church theologian and LDS boss. Wouldn’t it be great to have a guy like this running the country? He could interpret the “mysteries” of world for the entire country through angelic beings.

Upon promotion to the high Melchizedek Priesthood (a title, which according to the Bible, belongs to Jesus Christ alone) Mitt Romney became governor of the kingdom of God on earth. Romney is a “…high priest and called to a presidency, high council, or bishop …” Joseph Smith claimed that the ordainment into this elite class of priests enrolls a man into “a Priesthood of the Son of God.” The Priests of Aaron are enabled to “see God, even God the Father.”

Mitt Romney’s elevation to the high Melchizedek priesthood comes with a responsibility “to obtain revelations of the mind and will of God. It is the privilege of the Melchizedek Priesthood to reprove, rebuke, and admonish, as well as to receive revelation.”

The Mormon Melchizedek priests are made presidents of their church; therefore why not make them President of the entire country? What could possibly go wrong?

***-—Nick Voss


41 posted on 01/28/2012 11:12:45 AM PST by Rome2000 (MYTH ROMNEY IS A MORMON MELCHIDEZEK HIGH PRIEST)
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To: Rome2000

I’m curious. If Romney did become President, what do you think he would do, as a Mormon, to hurt the country?


42 posted on 01/28/2012 11:29:32 AM PST by Krankor (It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
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To: Krankor

If a filthy rich Catholic Cardinal was running for POTUS, the subject of his high position in the Church would come up.

Romney is not just a Mormon, he is high up the food chain in church hierarchy, comparable to a Cardinal.

MORMONISM IS A CON, founded by a con man, a CONVICTED con man.

JESUS was not in MISSOURI.

Romney might mandate we wear magical underwear and tithe to his cult.


43 posted on 01/28/2012 11:32:57 AM PST by Rome2000 (MYTH ROMNEY IS A MORMON MELCHIDEZEK HIGH PRIEST)
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To: Rome2000
Romney might mandate we wear magical underwear and tithe to his cult.

Mmmmmmmm. Okey dokey...
44 posted on 01/28/2012 11:42:52 AM PST by Krankor (It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Gingrich on the Chattahoochee River. I like the guy.


45 posted on 01/28/2012 1:55:39 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress

It’s ironic that the party—the Repubs—say that they are tolerant, but go after Mitt’s religion...


46 posted on 01/28/2012 8:26:31 PM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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