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CALIFORNIA: Supreme Court validation of maps could give Democrats two-thirds Senate majority
Sacramento Bee ^ | 1/28/12 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 01/28/2012 9:10:10 AM PST by SmithL

A California Supreme Court ruling Friday significantly raised Democratic Party prospects of gaining the supermajority needed in the state Senate to pass tax or fee increases.

The high court decided that Senate maps drawn recently by a 14-member citizens commission will be used for this year's legislative elections, even if a pending referendum qualifies for the ballot.

The decision brought certainty for dozens of prospective Senate candidates awaiting final adoption of the maps as they begin their campaigns. And it offered the commission at least temporary validation that it performed its job as the voters intended.

Political analysts of both parties agree that the commission-drawn lines give Democrats a good chance of capturing the two seats necessary to give them a two-thirds supermajority in the Senate by December.

California Republican Party Chairman Tom Del Beccaro told The Bee this week that retention of the new lines would make it "enormously difficult" to keep Democrats from a Senate supermajority.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gerrymandering; goldenstate; redistricting; supermajority; thefixisin
The fix was in!
1 posted on 01/28/2012 9:10:17 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

The state of DOOM.


2 posted on 01/28/2012 9:16:47 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: SmithL

Just helped my daughter move out of the state last weekend. She’ll be saving $500 month in taxes alone.


3 posted on 01/28/2012 9:17:26 AM PST by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my light bulbs !)
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To: SmithL

If they get a supermajority in the California Senate, the state will enter bankruptcy in the next 2-3 years.

If Obama get re-elected, the rest of the country will bail them out and absorb their debt.


4 posted on 01/28/2012 9:19:24 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: SmithL

I don’t want to live in the same country with these people anymore. Wonder what the map of North America will look like at the end of the 21st century.


5 posted on 01/28/2012 9:20:13 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: SmithL

Why not let the liberals have their way with California and let them finish off the state.

So what if they take 2/3 majority? The people who elect the liberals will deserve what they get. Let them self-destroy. Perhaps then, when they’re left hopeless and bankrupt and with companies leaving in droves,and people moving out, the people left will realize how dumb liberal government is.

I sometimes wonder if having Obama win a second term wouldn’t be “good” for the country, since, it would, in the end, be a shock to all Americans, and they’d end up hopeless and learning some very huge lessons which many have refused to learn. Only when the whole country gets that feeling of hopelessness, will the country start towards sanity and the elimination of programs and people who have ruined the country.


6 posted on 01/28/2012 9:23:15 AM PST by adorno (<)
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To: SmithL
The fix was in!

I hear "Taps" playing in the background for once a fine state known as California.

7 posted on 01/28/2012 9:24:20 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: madprof98; All
THESE PEOPLE aren't all alike....just sayin' that SOME OF US, stayed to fight.

Perhaps that concept might be entertained by SOME PEOPLE.

8 posted on 01/28/2012 9:24:42 AM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: SmithL

I hate to say it but it’s time to go. I’d love to stay and fight but there’s no way to fight when they control everything.


9 posted on 01/28/2012 9:27:27 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: SmithL

And in the 2010 census illegals were of course counted and are making a significant impact in the new California apportionment maps.


10 posted on 01/28/2012 9:28:46 AM PST by Will88
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To: CAluvdubya
Sure glad you weren't party of Washington's army on Christmas Eve...love yah FRiend, but I'll stay and fight in the cold, with or without shoes/provisions...

Off to read Thomas Payne ;-)

11 posted on 01/28/2012 9:29:40 AM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: SmithL
"Supreme Court validation of maps could give Democrats two-thirds Senate majority"

And THEN, 'you reaps what you sow!' Only more of it with less resistance.

Kalifornia heading to its REAL bottom, sooner than later.

12 posted on 01/28/2012 9:36:35 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: NordP
Nord, what are you going to fight?

As an example, the government just canceled a contract they had with Northrop, ending another countless number of jobs. We can't call our Congressmen or women as they approve of the move.

In fact, we have only a handful of Congress people to turn to if we need our voices heard but, since they hold no power in our state government, it stops there. All we can do is complain. They have redistricted us out of relevance.

Sorry,

13 posted on 01/28/2012 9:40:41 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SmithL. Glad the Demwits want to assign CA’s electoral votes based on the overall national vote.


14 posted on 01/28/2012 9:41:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SmithL

Has been for the last twenty five years.


15 posted on 01/28/2012 9:42:23 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SmithL

California, lol.
Run, don’t walk.


16 posted on 01/28/2012 9:44:44 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SmithL
Kalifornia is lost, anyway.

Between the illegals and the parasites and sex deviates, the decent folks are leaving, businesses are leaving, and the cities are havens for tribes of various persuasions.

We need "The Big One" to make it detached from the U.S.A.

No loss at all.....

17 posted on 01/28/2012 9:45:10 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: NordP

It’s one thing to stay and fight a fire in the kitchen, but it’s another thing entirely to stay and fight when the flaming house is crashing down upon your head. Good luck.


18 posted on 01/28/2012 9:48:37 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NordP

people interested in liberty stay in failed leftist states to “fight on” while the leftists themselves move on to destroy a new state. almost funny. purely observation. not minimizing your contribution.


19 posted on 01/28/2012 9:50:34 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: CAluvdubya

The thing to do now is to ensure they don’t receive a federal bailout. make them suffer the consequences of their actions.


20 posted on 01/28/2012 9:52:40 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

and some just don’t want to leave their family members


21 posted on 01/28/2012 9:53:29 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: traditional1

You from what I have read and heard, in my opinion, correct. It is time for all producers and those who consider themselves decent individuals to leave. Eventually without the blood [money]of the producers to sustain them the animals and parasites will collapse upon themselves. y. But after the collapse you, should they wish they can return.How long this will take I cannot say. But California is like the rest of the United States. It is going to take a total collapse in order to kill off the parasites.Then the producers can rebuild.


22 posted on 01/28/2012 9:55:57 AM PST by sport
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To: SmithL
Over kill in an already very blue state . So when Calif. fails all the big tests who else can they blame ??? Massive delirium alert !!!
23 posted on 01/28/2012 9:56:37 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: adorno
I sometimes wonder if having Obama win a second term wouldn’t be “good” for the country, since, it would, in the end, be a shock to all Americans, and they’d end up hopeless and learning some very huge lessons which many have refused to learn.

If only. Historically, societies tend to spin down to oblivion. There is rarely a second renaissance. Lately, I've begun to feel we've already passed the point of no return. The government may pause, but it will never shrink. It will consume and grow like a metastasized cancer, eventually killing off all productive members of society to feed the ever growing entitlement class. This will continue, right up until the system collapses; then society will plunge into another Dark Age. What a drag. 500 years of bad hygiene, no decent coffee, and a lack of toilet paper.

24 posted on 01/28/2012 9:57:12 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: adorno

I feel there is something to your last point. Electing Romney is still a win for big government but carries the additional negatives of a) stealth implementation (because the R behind his name gives him cover to the sheeple) and b) the trashing of the Republican brand because it will be Romney with that R after his name who presides over the collapse. At least Obama is tthe enemy we know.


25 posted on 01/28/2012 9:59:52 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: morphing libertarian

very valid point. i was just making point that leftists ruin states and then move on to ruin others. i guess using word “funny” wasn’t really funny.


26 posted on 01/28/2012 10:03:14 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: SmithL

Hungry CA parasites are devouring their host and insuring their own demise.


27 posted on 01/28/2012 10:04:37 AM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: freemarketsfreeminds

I understand. I live in California.
Best wishes!


28 posted on 01/28/2012 10:09:22 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

You too! Keep fighting!


29 posted on 01/28/2012 10:13:02 AM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: All; SmithL
And now they'll finally have the power they lusted for across the 40 years they've controlled the legislature ... the power to tax without opposition.

CA's debt to GDP ratio is fine. Unfortunate for the rest of the country, CA's economic output is a vital, substantial contributor to national economic health.

CA has millions of subjugated non-Democrats suffering under the tyranny of the Bay Area and L.A.

One can imagine, with unchecked power, CA will become the worst of all Democrat strong holds on taxation, on regulation, on nannystate-ism, on oppression of individual liberty. It will be second to none.

30 posted on 01/28/2012 10:28:45 AM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path.)
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To: SmithL

They don’t call the once great state of California the “ People’s Republic of Kalifornia” for nothing now.
This nation is so damaged..I wonder it is time to think about moving to another country..mayby New Zealand or Iceland or someplace with more sanity.


31 posted on 01/28/2012 10:52:14 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: NordP

“THESE PEOPLE aren’t all alike....just sayin’ that SOME OF US, stayed to fight.

Perhaps that concept might be entertained by SOME PEOPLE.”

A good general knows when the battle is lost.


32 posted on 01/28/2012 10:54:05 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: celtic gal

I have a friend, a conservative, that because there is family in WA state is planning to move there in about 2 years after the house is built and he retires. It will be the primary residence and the home they have in AZ will be the winter home..why WA because there is no state income tax and the cost of living is lower..If my DH were not a California native with family here I think I would be looking at TX or TN..


33 posted on 01/28/2012 11:13:02 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: SmithL

Game. Set. Match!!

The once conservative court has bellied up to the trough.

‘Justice’ is now all about equality and economic and social justice.. and the rest of you, be damned.

You don’t like being condemned to living in a social experiment or living in a Udopia under construction, move.


34 posted on 01/28/2012 12:53:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: The Antiyuppie
Doing the right thing isn't always easy, but it's always right.

Some people can handle the isn't always easy part....some can't.

35 posted on 01/28/2012 5:05:24 PM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: CAluvdubya

Bye! I wish you all the best, wherever you may go.


36 posted on 01/28/2012 5:06:41 PM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: freemarketsfreeminds
Thanks. I understand. We will stay and fight...hopefully, we can split the state into three: Northern, Southern, and New CA = Palm Springs, Orange County and San Diego - we would be able to secure the border...maybe even buy Baja after a bit...set up MASSIVE tourist spots on the newly cleaned up beaches and life could be good.

I'm NOT giving up! ...never, never, never, give up!

37 posted on 01/28/2012 5:11:24 PM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: NordP
Some people can handle the isn't always easy part....some can't.

And some people don't have the financial independence to live where there is no job! They must go where the job is and CA seems to like to get rid of all businesses.

Hell, they can't even support the mainstay of this state....the farmer. Instead, they cherish an ugly fish that isn't even native to this state and kill the farming industry. Did you notice that 4 of the top 5 cities noted for the worst unemployment in the nation are in CA. More specifically, the Central Valley (which is where, BTW, I was born and raised).

Maybe, just maybe, doing "the right thing" is getting the hell out of this state that wants us here solely to raise our taxes (which is what's next on Brown's agenda) to pay for their illegals and give-away programs. I can no longer afford to let the artsy-fartsy Hollywood folks, who can afford to hide their money in Swiss bank accounts, make all the decisions regarding my life and my money because they have a larger voting block and out number us in this state.

Of course, this is probably a moot point as most, like me, can't sell their homes to move without taking a huge loss.

Maybe doing the "right thing" is doing what you have to do to survive and not to be flippant with others w/o knowing their situation, FRiend...

38 posted on 01/28/2012 5:42:34 PM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: CAluvdubya

You do what you need to do - no flippancy here - we will stay and do what we can. All the best to you!


39 posted on 01/28/2012 7:45:40 PM PST by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: SmithL
California Republican Party Chairman Tom Del Beccaro told The Bee this week that retention of the new lines would make it "enormously difficult" to keep Democrats from a Senate supermajority.

Well, maybe the sooner the Democrats kill California, the sooner someone will be able to fix it.
40 posted on 01/28/2012 7:51:55 PM PST by aruanan
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To: NordP
THESE PEOPLE aren't all alike....just sayin' that SOME OF US, stayed to fight.

Staying to fight in Kalifornia, is like trying to save a sinking ship by trying to scoop up the water with your cupped hands and throwing it off the side. It can't be saved!!!

The only thing that would be accomplished by anybody that works or owns a business, is to help feed the liberal establishment in instituting more of their socialism. The less there is for them to tax or to control, the sooner they will fail. Staying enables them, and encourages more of the insanity. Leaving helps to bring them down sooner.
41 posted on 01/28/2012 7:59:45 PM PST by adorno (<)
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To: SmithL
The posters on this thread do not seem to realize that CA has a bicameral legislature and it takes a 2/3 vote of both houses to pass a tax increase. I have not heard anything about the other chamber, the assembly, so I assume that the RATS won't get a 2/3 margin there.

As for the CA Senate, who knows what will happen? As Cal Coolidge said, "If you see 10 troubles coming down the road, nine of them will fall by the side before they get to you."

For those of you who want to bail out, be my guest. I am staying here and fighting by contributing to Republican candidates. This place is too crowded anyway.


42 posted on 01/29/2012 2:02:07 PM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom
I hate going there, but I found these numbers on Kos: It's not encouraging. If the Rats get a majority of the toss-ups, they can have their 2/3 majority in the Assembly.
43 posted on 01/29/2012 3:58:38 PM PST by SmithL (If you reward certain behavior, don't be surprised when you see more of that behavior)
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