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Emails Show How 'Fast and Furious' Ambush News Unfolded At Justice Dept.
Georgia Public Broadcasting ^ | January 27, 2012 8:59pm (EST) | Carrie Johnson

Posted on 01/28/2012 10:26:26 AM PST by Texas Fossil

For the first time, the Justice Department has made public a series of sensitive messages that passed to the highest levels of the agency within hours of an ambush that killed a U.S. border patrol agent along the Southwest border in December 2010, igniting a national scandal over a gun trafficking investigation gone wrong.

Justice officials sent the documents to Congress late Friday evening, only a few days before Attorney General Eric Holder is set to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The email messages show the former top federal prosecutor in Arizona, Dennis Burke, notifying an aide to Holder via email on Dec. 15, 2010 that agent Brian Terry had been wounded and died. "Tragic," responds the aide, Monty Wilkinson. "I've alerted the AG, the acting Deputy Attorney General..."

Only a few minutes later, Wilkinson emailed again, saying, "Please provide any additional details as they become available to you."

Burke then delivered another piece of bad news: "The guns found in the desert near the murder [sic] ... officer connect back to the investigation we were going to talk about they were AK-47s purchased at a Phoenix gun store."

(Excerpt) Read more at gpb.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; email; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; justice; obama; terry
This has been reported in other news outlets, but NPR is the place Eric "the Red" Holder chose to release the emails.

An interesting link in the article is to a letter from Holder's Justice Department to the Issa Committee.

Justice Dept Letter

1 posted on 01/28/2012 10:26:35 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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2 posted on 01/28/2012 10:29:27 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Texas Fossil

“IF” we had a responsible media that cared about this country the whole story would be told and all those guilty of this mess would face charges. Can you imagine if Obama were a Republican President how important this story would be and how many resignations and trials would follow?


3 posted on 01/28/2012 10:31:26 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Breuer's proposal involved coordination between the governments and didn't contemplate agents losing track of guns, as happened in the Fast and Furious debacle."

That's two lies right there!

4 posted on 01/28/2012 10:31:26 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Texas Fossil

“IF” we had a responsible media that cared about this country the whole story would be told and all those guilty of this mess would face charges. Can you imagine if Obama were a Republican President how important this story would be and how many resignations and trials would follow?


5 posted on 01/28/2012 10:31:43 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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Thanks Texas Fossil.


6 posted on 01/28/2012 10:34:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Texas Fossil
From that letter...
II. The Need For Congressional Action
While the reforms described above are an appropriate response to Wide Receiver, Fast and Furious and the other investigations where inappropriate investigative tactics were used, they will not halt the epidemic of gun trafficking on the Southwest border.

What "other investigations"?

7 posted on 01/28/2012 10:34:57 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Tammy8
if it were a Republican President? You can't be surprised that the MSM is trying to hide this too, are you?

Obama's WATERGATE except in this version people died.

What was Obama doing dumping guns into Mexico? Obviously he wanted to go after the 2nd Amendment. Why does he want to hurt Americans? What else would you expect from America's first RADICAL MUSLIM PRESIDENT?

8 posted on 01/28/2012 10:36:34 AM PST by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone think?)
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9 posted on 01/28/2012 10:40:15 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Texas Fossil
For the first time, the Justice Department has made public a series of sensitive messages that passed to the highest levels of the agency within hours of an ambush that killed a U.S. border patrol agent along the Southwest border in December 2010, igniting a national scandal over a gun trafficking investigation gone wrong

An ambush didn't kill Terry. Agent Terry was killed while performing an ambush style operation to apprehend a rip crew.

10 posted on 01/28/2012 10:47:12 AM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Texas Fossil
Somehow they managed to tie Fast and Furious to Bush.

Also, “In a meeting with Mexican government officials in February 2011, for instance, Breuer “suggested allowing straw purchasers cross into Mexico so [police] can arrest and [prosecutors] can convict. Such coordinated activities between the US and Mexico may send a strong message to arms traffickers.”

Hadn't Terry already been killed by this time? This “meeting with Mexican officials” looks like a way to cover their ass. With the help of friendly media.

Matter of fact this whole article looks to me as a way to confuse the uninformed. Hell, it confuses me and I've been following this pretty closely.

11 posted on 01/28/2012 11:02:45 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Tammy8

Yep, the MSM is in the tank with these criminals. Supporting the BIG LIE!


12 posted on 01/28/2012 11:14:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yep, Lots of lies that the MSM consistently covers for.

Criminals All.


13 posted on 01/28/2012 11:15:20 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: philman_36

Operation Castaway & White Gun

And unknown other number.

Of course they can never admit the real intention, expansion of gun control because of an out of control border situation.


14 posted on 01/28/2012 11:17:18 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Ajnin

Correct. And Holder will continue to lie otherwise.


15 posted on 01/28/2012 11:18:23 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: saleman

“this whole article looks to me as a way to confuse the uninformed”

NPR is not dumb, just lefties that play dumb. Holder release the emails and copy of letter to ISSA to NPR because they will always support their leftie friends.


16 posted on 01/28/2012 11:21:54 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

The entire Fast and Furious Operation was a debacle of epic proportions. The whole operational concept was stupid and guaranteed to fail. The only outcome that should have been expected was lots of lost guns.

They dumped guns on purpose to show a need to restrict guns more.


17 posted on 01/28/2012 11:24:09 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Texas Fossil

Ah, got ya. Thanks.


18 posted on 01/28/2012 11:26:25 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Tammy8
Fast and Furious coverage/updates are overshadowed with Newt and Romney Bashing, that is what sells-bloody pugilistic battles in the ring-no rules.

Was a gift of fresh air to see Arizona's governor draw some media attention with her Tarmac Talk with the President, but then the White House said one thing, Brewer a little different-and camera angles were used in preparation of an uncomfortable meeting to keep people in the dark on this related issue as well.

Note in the President's Address he mentioned the count of illegals coming into this country across the southern border had dropped considerably in the past year; but this Administration had conveniently doctored those numbers by ordering officials not to count those sent back over the border. Small facts/stories, that are so important to understanding the whole issue. Did a tree fall in the woods?No, but a bear is conveniently ____ in those woods.

Governor Brewer has her boots firmly on the ground on this issue fighting for her people in Arizona-doing what they asked her to do. Her book did skyrocket 2,224,000 percent in the 24 hours after this confrontation. If former governor Palin who can also grab coverage anytime she snaps her fingers, should team up with Brewer on this issue "in our face"-then the American people would be kept informed, viewers would demand it.

The media goes back to Newt and Romney bashing--Newt calling Romney illegal friendly, Romney denying Newt's ad--Rubio denying the ad had credibility, Newt backs down, Michelle Malkin hot on the issue coming out calling for readers to hold your nose.. saying Romney was not for illegal immigration any more than Newt was, but they had not been much help either. So a Yellow Card was held up by those who "walk the talk" and called out "wait-a-minute" and "foul". So the media went back to Newt vs Romney bashing and vice-versa in blogs, columns and the MSM.

Now if one of the candidates [Romney or Newt] places a call to Governor Brewer at 3am and suggests a VP spot on the ticket, I will have to laugh.

Oh..were we talking about Fast and Furious? ;)

19 posted on 01/28/2012 11:41:19 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: politicianslie

What I don’t understand is how this is not huge news, how come people aren’t being escorted to jail, or the nearest tree. Everyone I talk to has never even heard of this, and they don’t care even if I try to explain it. I feel like I’m on the crazy train, like that old black and white movie of that monster on the wing of that aircraft tearing it apart, and only that one guy saw it, and ended up shooting at it etc. If I remember correctly, he was arrested.


20 posted on 01/28/2012 12:13:21 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Texas Fossil
The attorney general, in testimony to the House and Senate last year, said he feared the Justice Department could be living with the consequences of more than 1,000 guns connected to Fast and Furious that remain unaccounted for years to come.

These are not 1,000 guns in the hands of law abiding citizens. These are 1,000 guns deliberately channeled to known criminals.

21 posted on 01/28/2012 12:35:02 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Yep, Criminal Federal Justice Department Employees funnelled guns directly to known criminal drug runners.

Is that specific enough? hee hee hee


22 posted on 01/28/2012 1:25:19 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Tammy8; Bulwyf

Hitler had his Reichstag fire and Gleiwitz Incident, which were basically the same type of operation.

The Reichstag fire was set by his people and blamed on communists to crack down on the commie opposition.

The Gleiwitz incident was a faked “Polish” attack on German soil, with dead camp victims in Polish uniforms used as “Polish” soldiers killed for proof.

The “media” in Germany conspired to get 6 million Jews murdered. What is going on here is not new.

What’s really sad is German’s thought they were Luther’s “Holy” Germany, just like people still think the US is a “Christian” nation protected by God.


23 posted on 01/28/2012 1:32:55 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Ajnin; Texas Fossil
Agent Terry was killed while performing an ambush style operation to apprehend a rip crew.

There is reason to believe that Agent Terry's crew knew nothing about the rip crew and the rip crew knew nothing in advance about Agent Terry's crew.

FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

Previously, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death in Peck Canyon, Arizona was described as a chance meeting that led to a firefight: an illegal alien “rip crew” working for the Sinaloa cartel was hoping to find other illegal aliens and to rob them at gunpoint. Instead, they stumbled across a Border Patrol unit and murdered Agent Terry.

Last week, the Washington Times offered a new version of the encounter: they reported that the rip crew was not hunting illegals, but Border Patrol teams — with the intention of engaging them in combat.

Sources now tell PJ Media that neither version of events is accurate: the rip crew was not waiting for a chance encounter with other illegals, nor did the members intend to engage American law enforcement agents.

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

A source tells PJM that the FBI knew from wiretaps that the CI was using their information to set up an ambush. The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault. Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.

(snip)

Neither agency bothered to warn Border Patrol to keep their BORTAC teams out of Peck Canyon that evening. As a direct result of this FBI and DEA failure — combined with Homeland Security forcing BORTAC units to carry less-lethal beanbag rounds in some of their primary weapons — Brian Terry’s under-armed four-man unit walked into an ambush against a heavily armed rip crew, at least five of whom were carrying rifles.

Brian Terry’s murder was entirely preventable. The incompetence of the DEA and FBI let his Border Patrol unit walk into an ambush. After the ambush, it appears the FBI tampered with evidence to cover up that one of their informants was involved with the murder of a federal agent.


24 posted on 01/28/2012 1:52:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Ya, I knew of those things that Hitler did to gain power etc, but I suppose it’s just hard to fathom the same machine at work again here in North America.

We need patriots, men and women of valour, who can expose evil where they find it.


25 posted on 01/28/2012 2:03:11 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

We also need people who know how to tactfully correct the good people who just do not still accept just how bad things are and can get here.

I read a comment by a freeper the other day who said that calling Obama evil was too extreme and would just fail to convince others who are on the fence.

I see their point, but we are in a battle of ideas for the soul of this nation. It’s time to roughly shake the naive awake and out of their intellectual slumber.


26 posted on 01/28/2012 2:23:22 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

You think it’s hard to convince people there, you should try here in Canada, it’s ridiculous. That’s why I’m so intent on what is happening there, this place is a lost cause, I don’t believe it can be reversed. Anyone here that even thinks of that just has the “I’m only one man” attitude.

I hope the US can do a 180, and sail towards prosperity and freedom, not necessarily in that order.


27 posted on 01/28/2012 2:46:43 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: TigersEye

Thanks for that summary.

I had previously read all of it, but not in one place.

To me, it is credible.

Now the real issue is who involved in the planning of this takes the blame. Since it exhibits multi agency coordination, I am convinced the entire blame rest solely on BHO, Jr. (aka Obozo)


28 posted on 01/28/2012 3:02:07 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

My theory, based on no specific evidence of a connection, is that Hillary came up with the idea passed it to Valerie Jarrett and Jarrett talked 0bozo into it who then acted like it was all his plan and told Holder to get ‘er done. Leaving Hillary several steps away from it all ... just as she planned.


29 posted on 01/28/2012 3:10:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

“Valerie Jarrett”

Very evil Hard Leftist thing.

Both she and Obozo are said to speak fluent Farsi. Both have from childhood Middle East connections. Both Hate the U.S. Terrible combination of people (vermin).

Der Hilderbeast? Capable of almost anything, inept at foreign policy at all levels, but corrupt enough to somehow survive in that environment. Doubt this is her brainchild, although she hates our freedom in all forms, especially the 2nd Amendment. As did the bent one, Slick Willie.

For all practical purposes Jarrett and Obozo are both Foreign Nationals. Both seek to destroy the U.S.

This is where we are. It is TIME to fix this. A lot rides on November 2012. They will try their bests to steal the election.

The American Eagle is awakened, is angry, I can see the gleam in her eye and hear the shriek of her voice. The talons are not yet drawn, but it will come.


30 posted on 01/28/2012 3:39:51 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
Part of the reason I suspect Hillary is her participation in promoting the "Mexican guns come from the U.S." angle. The other part is that the State Dept. should be involved in any legal transfer of weapons to a foreign country and should want to be aware of illegal transfers conducted by gov agencies and operatives. In that light one would expect some coordination between the State Dept. and the CIA when it is funneling heavy weaponry to organized crime syndicates in a foreign country.

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

(snip)

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

More about State Department involvement...

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

Want to read even more about State Dept. involvement? ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.

"Grenade Walker" seems like another finger on the same hand as F&F and DEA money laundering and other ops. Anyway, it's just a theory based mostly on gut feeling. I've never thought Hillary was very bright but I do think she is more savvy than 0bungles.

31 posted on 01/28/2012 3:57:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

I have no doubt of Hillary’s involvement, but I simply don’t think this is her gig.

Jarrett & Obozo planned this......

Hillary is along for the ride.

5-7 Agencies involved? No other conclusion than Obozo himself signed off on this.


32 posted on 01/28/2012 4:09:41 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
No other conclusion than Obozo himself signed off on this.

My theory includes that as essential mechanics. ;-)

33 posted on 01/28/2012 4:24:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tammy8

You are so right. This article doesn’t even scratch the surface of what happened and how it happened. This is a disgrace and all the guilty parties need to be prosecuted.


34 posted on 01/28/2012 4:53:28 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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The list, Ping

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35 posted on 01/28/2012 7:05:07 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: TigersEye
Last week, the Washington Times offered a new version of the encounter: they reported that the rip crew was not hunting illegals, but Border Patrol teams — with the intention of engaging them in combat

This is complete bullshit. Nobdody from the cartels is going to purposely hump 15 miles into the interior of the United States to engage a Border Patrol Tactical team in combat when they can simply snipe regular line agents right on the damn border..geeze. Agent Terry's team ambushed a rip crew. Agent Terry's team initiated contact with less lethal and the rip crew wet their panties and fired AK's hysterically into the night. Unfortunately a round missed Terry's body armor and caused a fatal injury. I wish people would stop trying to make Border Patrol Agents out be a bunch of punk victims.

36 posted on 01/28/2012 10:19:18 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin

I know. Read the paragraph that follows that one.


37 posted on 01/28/2012 10:25:28 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Texas Fossil; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

ping


38 posted on 01/28/2012 10:54:27 PM PST by bitt (Socialism works great until you run out of Chinese money.)
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To: Ajnin

Thanks for injecting a little reality.


39 posted on 01/29/2012 7:07:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 01/29/2012 8:04:33 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: bitt

Representative Issa knows what must be done at this point.


41 posted on 01/29/2012 10:43:29 AM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Tammy8
“IF” we had a responsible media that cared about this country ..... many resignations and trials would follow?

You are exactly right Tammy8. And it looks like we are going to have to do the work the media refuses to do. I am spending quite a bit of time linking and posting these F&F discoveries to various political and local news websites. If we can all do a little of that every week, in our own localities, then maybe when can raise awareness and build momentum for the charges to be filled.

42 posted on 01/29/2012 12:53:08 PM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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