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President John Tylerís grandson says Newt Gingrich is a 'jerk' (they're really reaching now)
Politico ^ | January 27, 2012 | Mackenzie Weinger

Posted on 01/28/2012 11:34:18 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

President John Tyler’s grandson Harrison Tyler, 84, says he’s not impressed with the state of politics today and particularly thinks Newt Gingrich is a “big jerk” for his three marriages.

Incredibly, President Tyler, who was born in 1790 and became the 10th president in 1841, has two grandchildren still alive today. His grandson, Harrison Ruffin Tyler, currently maintains the Tyler presidential home, Sherwood Forest Plantation Foundation in Charles City, Va.

Harrison said he doesn’t spend much time focusing on the 2012 presidential race — “I can’t stand watching television” — but considers himself a conservative. His big problem this election, he said, is with the candidates.

“I don’t really like any of them,” he said in an interview.

But Tyler’s especially not a fan of Gingrich, who he dubbed a “big jerk.”

“He needs to stick with the same wife, that’s what my mother taught me,” Tyler said. “But that doesn’t seem to happen much today.”

Tyler, an engineer who founded his own business, ChemTreat, in 1968, said he thought it was important that Mitt Romney had business experience, but noted he is firmly undecided at this point. He said he plans to vote this fall, but “I just haven’t made up my mind yet.”

And President Barack Obama — who Tyler called a “charming man” — just doesn’t have the right pro-business policies to get his vote, he said.

“Well, I think he’s a charming man, but he grew up in the society where he believes in running the show and changing the apple cart and taking it away from those that have,” he said.

Tyler said he prefers to focus on the family home in Virginia, not on politics. He spends some time giving lectures on local Jamestown history — he’s also descended from Pocahontas — but notes he didn’t even start studying presidential history and his grandfather until his retirement.

“I’m retired from my business,” he said. “I’m 84 years old. I drive around, I bought a lot of additional land, beautiful land around the river. I just drive around watching all the deer and all the turkey.”

President John Tyler, who lived from 1790-1862, had 15 children during his lifetime, making him the most prolific president. One of his children, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, born in 1853, fathered Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr. in 1924 and Harrison in 1928. Lyon Tyler, Jr., is 88 and currently living in Franklin, Tenn., according to Harrison.

President Tyler was William Henry Harrison’s Whig running mate in the 1840 election, which spawned one of the most famous campaign slogans in American history, “Tippecanoe and Tyler too.” On his 32nd day in office, Harrison died of complications from pneumonia. Tyler was then the first vice president to become president due to the death of his predecessor, serving from 1841-1845.

John Tyler also has the distinction of becoming the first president to get married while in office — after his first wife died in 1842, Tyler married Julia Gardiner, who was 30 years younger than him, in 1844.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: harrisontyler; idiots; mediabias; newtgingrich; presidents; va2012
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Just how far are they going to go to bring Newt down? Are they going to dig up his great grandmother to say something bad about him?

This stuff is becoming funny. It would be even funnier if it wasn't so pathetic. I wonder which Romney twerp reached out to Mr. Tyler.

Even the Washington Times (or is it Washington Slimes) has one of those pieces by a former Reagan administration official claiming Newt opposed Ronald Reagan, presumably over his anti-communist stance.

I wonder how far Mitt will go to bring his critics down if he gets into office.

1 posted on 01/28/2012 11:34:32 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Next up, a Romney staffer will go dig up Mary Todd Lincoln to criticize Callista Gingrich’s dresses.


2 posted on 01/28/2012 11:36:11 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Next up, Mitt Romney’s eldest son leaked this to the Washington Post: In Georgia, a Gingrich staffer rear-ended a little old lady in Atlanta. No injuries or significant damage was reported.


3 posted on 01/28/2012 11:37:57 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They are really reaching; I believe John Tyler was the only US President who was not given a state funeral because he served in the Confederate cabinet after his term was over. Newt should point to this attack as proof of his “racial harmony” credntials.


4 posted on 01/28/2012 11:38:03 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oh, good!

Now I can go to sleep at night.

I’ve been staying awake, wondering what Pres. Tyler’s grandson thinks....

Wait a minute, WHICH grandson?

What about the granddaughters?

Oooooohhh, more sleepless nights!

NOT!


5 posted on 01/28/2012 11:39:42 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe it was Newt who stole the marble rye...


6 posted on 01/28/2012 11:39:58 AM PST by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hey Mackenzie Weinger

If a filthy rich Catholic Cardinal was running for POTUS, the subject of his high position in the Church would come up.

Romney is not just a Mormon, he is high up the food chain in church hierarchy, comparable to a Cardinal.

But you keep writing stories about Tylers grandson, that’s whats relevant here.


7 posted on 01/28/2012 11:42:27 AM PST by Rome2000 (MYTH ROMNEY IS A MORMON MELCHIDEZEK HIGH PRIEST)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What is with the Freeper obsession with Newt “Dede Scozzafava” Gingrich? I can see Rick Santorum. That I get. But Newt “Nancy Pelosi” Gingrich? Newt “Three Wives and Ten Million Alibis” Gingrich? We have Freepers calling it the Washington Slimes and boycotting Drudge over this! Newt “Resigned In Disgrace” Gingrich is not worth it. I guess to be a Freeper now you have to believe in Global Warming and support Fannie Mae and never ever working in private enterprise all your adult life. Some people are sounding more like Paulians. I thought Harrison Tyler’s comments were entertaining. God bless him. He’s 84 and living in the 21st century — the grandson of a man born in the 18th century. Does this mean I am suddenly going to vote against Newt? No. Of course not. Lighten up. It’s Saturday.


8 posted on 01/28/2012 11:43:09 AM PST by Mustang Driver
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Sounds like satire, but is apparently true.

The New York magazine article on Harrison R. Tyler goes downhill from here:

A few days ago, the website Mental Floss posted an amazing, seemingly impossible piece of American trivia, which then quickly spread around the web, to Yahoo, the Huffington Post, ABC News, Fox News, Politico, Kottke, the Daily Mail, and others: Two grandsons of President John Tyler — who was born in 1790 and served as tenth president of the United States — are still alive today.

"Thank goodness," says Harrison Ruffin Tyler, one of those grandsons, who spoke to us earlier this morning from Sherwood Forest Plantation, the historical Tyler family home in Virginia in which he resides. Harrison Tyler is not an immortal vampire, or a 160-year-old freak of nature, but a mentally sharp octogenarian with a soothing Southern drawl and a more favorable opinion of his grandfather's legacy than the ones held by most presidential historians.

If he were an immortal vampire or a 160-year-old freak of nature, I might have read further.

His father and grandfather weren't necessarily people I'd take advice from. Presumably, they'd be for Ron Paul.

9 posted on 01/28/2012 11:44:16 AM PST by x
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Shouldn’t this guy be off fathering a great-grandchild to carry on the family name? He seems to be of the right age for it.


10 posted on 01/28/2012 11:47:15 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
One of his children, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, born in 1853, fathered Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr. in 1924 and Harrison in 1928.

WHAT??! The guy in the article, Harrison, his father was 75 when he was born? Incredible.

11 posted on 01/28/2012 11:47:23 AM PST by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hilarious. Maybe 84 year old Tippecanoe G-son can team up with Ms. Meghan McCain.


12 posted on 01/28/2012 11:49:18 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Incredibly, President Tyler, who was born in 1790 and became the 10th president in 1841, has two grandchildren still alive today. His grandson, Harrison Ruffin Tyler, currently maintains the Tyler presidential home, Sherwood Forest Plantation Foundation in Charles City, Va. "

Wow! Simply amazing.

13 posted on 01/28/2012 11:49:55 AM PST by StormEye
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
And President Barack Obama — who Tyler called a “charming man”


14 posted on 01/28/2012 11:50:35 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: Mustang Driver
You're taking some serious chances here. JimRob has explicitly said that badmouthing Gingrich will earn you the Zot.

Recommendation: Hit abuse on yourself, ask admin mod to remove, and mention you didn't know about the Newt Dissing Restriction.

15 posted on 01/28/2012 11:51:17 AM PST by Lazamataz (Norm Lenhart knows nothing about reloading.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Nobody’s had a grandfather born 222 years ago since the patriarchs of the Old Testament. They’re talking six or seven generations here.


16 posted on 01/28/2012 11:51:32 AM PST by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: ILS21R

See #4 - I don’t think John Tyler would have voted for Obama.


17 posted on 01/28/2012 11:52:56 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I think we just found our "brokered convention" ace-in-the-hole candidate.

One of his children, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, born in 1853, fathered Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr. in 1924 and Harrison in 1928.

And in the days before Viagra no less. Impressive.

18 posted on 01/28/2012 11:53:26 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: ILS21R
Tyler was a Whig, is this the Southern Whig statement?
19 posted on 01/28/2012 11:54:05 AM PST by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: x

“””who spoke to us earlier this morning from Sherwood Forest Plantation”””””

Sounds a tad racist.


20 posted on 01/28/2012 11:54:10 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The media will make a star out of anyone who defends their boys Mitt, and barack.

John Tyler's grandson? Wasn't Tyler the one thrown out of his own party, and there was even talk of impeachment.

Grandson should fix his own boat's leaks before judging others...sounds like Tyler was the jerk.
21 posted on 01/28/2012 11:55:16 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Woooo John Tylers grandson. Newts in trouble now. Let’s hope the granddog of Frankiln Pierce doesnt bark next.


22 posted on 01/28/2012 11:56:05 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (How ironic that Ann Coulter should write a book called Treason.)
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To: Mustang Driver
What is with the Freeper obsession with Newt “Dede Scozzafava” Gingrich?

Gingrich admitted that he got DeeeDeee wrong. I'm still waiting for Romney to man-up and quit lying about RomOBot-Care.

23 posted on 01/28/2012 11:56:56 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Mustang Driver

Newt wrote two dozen books. Why is that not private enterprise? Why is founding your own think tanks funded by private donations not private enterprise?

“Resigned in disgrace” is a false, slanderous Mitt Romney talking point from the guy who was so unpopular as governor (in the 30s I believe) that he abandoned even the thought of running for reelection. Newt was reelected and resigned on his own accord, at least partly because it was a bad election year and the media had been making him the scapegoat for everything during the Clinton years.

As for Newt’s Tea Party cred...

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/print/4463516

Gingrich’s ties to the tea party movement are deep and long-lasting.

In March 2009, when tea parties were just beginning to be organized, the Georgian pledged to use his prodigious mailing list at American Solutions to publicize the inaugural Tax Day event.

He posted a link on every website he owned, sent emails to everyone in his database and produced a video while publicly announcing his support of the tea party movement — long before radio talkers like Glenn Beck jumped on the bandwagon.


24 posted on 01/28/2012 11:59:34 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think Tyler was a twerp. He insisted on a big ceremony right after the death of the President, and then served in the pretended government of the confederacy. Fortunately he died. The worst ex-president until Carter.


25 posted on 01/28/2012 12:02:25 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tyler, born in 1790, would be 222 years old today. How does he have an 84 year old grandson?? Shouldn’t that be his great-great-great-great grandson twice removed?

Seriously, Politico pays people to write this crap?


26 posted on 01/28/2012 12:05:54 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: RoadTest

The trick is to wait until you’re on Social Security to start having kids...

President John Tyler
Born 1790

Son Lyon Gardiner Tyler
Born 1853 (father age 63)

Grandson Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr.
Born 1924 (father age 71)

Grandson Harrison Tyler
Born 1928 (father age 75)


27 posted on 01/28/2012 12:06:07 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Newt?!!
Back in my day, Politicians had real names like Schuyler and Elbridge!
Newt, my eye!"

"What a jerk!"


28 posted on 01/28/2012 12:08:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: RoadTest

29 posted on 01/28/2012 12:09:22 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

The Tylers were widowers who remarried when they were old and had children when they were quite old. Remember that John Tyler was the first President to get married in the White House? Tyler’s youngest son was born when the ex-President was 63 and that son married for the second time when he 68. You do the math.


30 posted on 01/28/2012 12:09:38 PM PST by x
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To: JediJones
And in the days before Viagra no less. Impressive.

I guess Junior stayed physically fit and used the latest contemporary aphrodisiacs.

31 posted on 01/28/2012 12:10:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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Nobody’s had a grandfather born 222 years ago since the patriarchs of the Old Testament. They’re talking six or seven generations here.

No. These are actually Tyler's grandchildren.

32 posted on 01/28/2012 12:11:44 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JediJones

OK, what was it that made the Tyler men such a hit with younger women?


33 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:00 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; JediJones

Oh, never mind, he was Lyon Tyler SENIOR. Still impressive.


34 posted on 01/28/2012 12:12:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

No. These are actually Tyler’s grandchildren.


35 posted on 01/28/2012 12:13:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Tyler had his son Lyon when he was already an old geezer. Lyon had his son Harrison when HE was already an old geezer.


36 posted on 01/28/2012 12:20:18 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: x; Right_in_Virginia

It helped that the second wifey was also much younger and therefore fertile.


37 posted on 01/28/2012 12:22:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: JediJones

“President John Tyler
Born 1790

Son Lyon Gardiner Tyler
Born 1853 (father age 63)

Grandson Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr.
Born 1924 (father age 71)

Grandson Harrison Tyler
Born 1928 (father age 75)”

Is Harrison, age 84, about to start a family?


38 posted on 01/28/2012 12:23:59 PM PST by maggief
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To: Genoa

I’m guessing that their “size” made up for their advanced ages.


39 posted on 01/28/2012 12:24:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Lancey Howard

It’s really remarkable!

He can actually say that his grandfather was around when George Washington was President!


40 posted on 01/28/2012 12:31:23 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe. I thought it must have been a combination of charm and property.


41 posted on 01/28/2012 12:47:25 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I mean no disrespect to you with this, but I really don’t care what Tyler’s grandchildren think.

Again, no disrespect to you.


42 posted on 01/28/2012 12:49:36 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here’s another old fart whining about Newt:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-27/simpson-terrified-obama-ditched-deficit-issue.html


43 posted on 01/28/2012 12:53:56 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

???

I don’t care what they think, either.


44 posted on 01/28/2012 12:58:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lazamataz

Any pointers to that restriction?

Can’t imagine that JimRob would have a rule that he himself wouldn’t live under for 5 minutes if it was for a candidate that he liked or disliked.

I know JR is a man of strong opinions but I’ve never seen him restrict speech (beyond common decency) or run FR as his own personal fiefdom vs. as a community resource.

I’ve stated that I think Newt is an uncontrollable ego manic and that I believe he represents Nixon level risk to the Republican and Conservative brand several times and have not had a warning or a zot. Some strong response? For sure, but everyone has an opinion.


45 posted on 01/28/2012 1:02:53 PM PST by sick1 (Don't fear the freeper)
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To: JediJones
Not to mention President Tyler's older brother, Steve:


46 posted on 01/28/2012 1:09:16 PM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, I’m the great, great, great, great . . . . great grandson of Elder William Brewster, head guy on the Mayflower, and I think that Newt is NOT a jerk.


47 posted on 01/28/2012 1:41:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, THIS changes everything for me. You say John Tyler’s grandson says Newt sucks? That’s all I need to hear!

/s


48 posted on 01/28/2012 2:24:54 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hey, John Tyler was a Whig and such a bad one they drummed him out of the Whig Party (Not an easy thing to do)—His Grandson maybe a life long Democrat who loves Obama—No wonder he’s using his 15 minutes of fame to help his man retain the White House. Maybe he hopes such things will get him an invite to the White House.


49 posted on 01/28/2012 3:25:22 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: JediJones

Writing books is private enterprise? Well, The Won wrote a couple of books, so I suppose you can say he is even more qualified since he sold more books than Newt.

He resigned not only as speaker but as a representative days after re-election, amid an ethics committee investigation that resulted in a reprimand.

You don’t think that is disgrace, fine. But please don’t accuse me of regurgitating talking points.


50 posted on 01/28/2012 4:43:38 PM PST by Mustang Driver
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