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Carnival Fails Crisis 101 in Costa Response
Fox ^ | January 27, 2012

Posted on 01/29/2012 3:57:21 AM PST by nuconvert

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To: TalBlack
The captain and the captain alone is in command of that ship. At sea or underway If the owners say one thing and he another there is no contest. He has final responsibility so he ought to be damn careful what “suggestions” he accedes to.

And the owners, and the owners alone, APPOINTED that man to be Captain and thereby their agent. They are thus totally responsible for any of his failures. They chose poorly.

21 posted on 01/29/2012 6:15:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: AndyJackson

They will try to put the captain’s behavior “outside the scope” of his employment and limit their exposure


22 posted on 01/29/2012 6:30:40 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: nuconvert

30% off future cruises ?!?

lol


23 posted on 01/29/2012 6:48:59 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: PapaBear3625

“They chose poorly.”

Poorly indeed! This guy’s lack of care, concern and interest in what the ship was doing after it struck the rocks, and then his back and forth with the Coast Guard was Homer Simpson come to life. I’d say they’re screwed.


24 posted on 01/29/2012 6:59:36 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: bert

“I thought it was reported that at the time of the collision the captain was having a meal. Was he actually on the bridge and in direct maneuvering command when the ship struck the reef?”

I recall that the 1st officer was dubious about the pass and sent word to the Captain of his concern and that the Captain, at dinner, waved it away. Or at some point before or after the rocks the captain waved away the bridge’s concern with the situation. Amazed the hell out of me. Will have to re-read. There were so many versions of events at the start with this story


25 posted on 01/29/2012 7:07:30 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Ann Archy

I got that ad too, with a beautiful shot of the Concordia edging close to Venice on the cover. This is a collector’s item.


26 posted on 01/29/2012 8:17:13 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I think Mickey Arinson, the owner of the NBA team Miami Heat, is one of the owners of the cruise line.


It’s a publicly traded company (CCL) so anyone may own stock shares.


27 posted on 01/29/2012 8:21:29 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The $14K amount is the correct one. A couple from Albuquerque was on the cruise and a news report had them saying they had recieved $28K and a full refund for cruise and airfare.


28 posted on 01/29/2012 8:23:11 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: TalBlack
I find it hard to imagine knowing all the boat skippers and professional pilots I've been around. That of all the high tech gadgetry and other professionals, co-pilots, navigators, etc. a ship holding 4000 lives could come flying toward shore too fast and simply turn too late.

If (as some suggest) the Captain was involved (with a BJ?) and no other officer or crew was at the ready to take over as a matter of standard operation, what if the old boy dosed off or had a heart attack? It simply doesn't add up.

29 posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:20 AM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: Tijeras_Slim

We were on a Carnival cruise in the Caribbean in 2010, on our way back to Ft. Lauderdale. At noon, the captain came on the loudspeaker and told all passengers and non-essential crew to clear off the top deck. One passenger became critically ill and a helo from the Coast Guard station in Miami came out to the ship, in about two hours. It couldn’t land on the ship, so a corpseman was lowered on to the upper deck and was able to secure the patient in a special rig. He was lifted back up to the helo which left immediately. Don’t know how it came out, but kudos to that Italian captain and especially to the USCG rescue crew!


30 posted on 01/29/2012 8:49:01 AM PST by Ax ( He's the only guy I ever knew that was trampled in a giraffe stampede.)
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To: bert

“——The captain and the captain alone is in command of that ship——

I thought it was reported that at the time of the collision the captain was having a meal. Was he actually on the bridge and in direct maneuvering command when the ship struck the reef?”

It doesn’t matter where he was on the ship, He STILL holds ultimate direct responsibility. Others might be faulted but it is still his baby! USN Ret.


31 posted on 01/29/2012 8:54:27 AM PST by mongo141
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
If (as some suggest) the Captain was involved (with a BJ?) and no other officer or crew was at the ready to take over as a matter of standard operation, what if the old boy dosed off or had a heart attack? It simply doesn't add up.

Last night, the Captain had said in deposition that he was doing the course change by eye, not using the instruments, as he had done it 4 or 5 times in the past and he knew those waters well. Then he said he left the turn order too late and he doesn't know why that happened. I was just shaking my head.

32 posted on 01/29/2012 8:59:56 AM PST by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: Ax
Along the line of interesting maneuvers with a Carnival Cruise; It was in the early to mid 90's we were setting sail for the Bahamas on (Fantasy? - I think), it was early evening and some major storms were just breaking into Daytona. Worst outbreak of tornadoes in Florida history at the time.

Lightning, huge waves, and they pointed the boat and blasted at full speed right into it. Imagine a shopping mall where everyone is taking two sideway steps for every one step forward to maintain balance.

1st person - "Whoops, excuse me."
2nd person - "Hey that's okay, we're all in the same boat"

It was fun. And I guess they knew what they were doing. Powerful Ship!

33 posted on 01/29/2012 9:12:50 AM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: Ax

CORPSMAN!! CORPSMAN!!! No Obamaisms PLEASE!


34 posted on 01/29/2012 9:46:20 AM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

“It simply doesn’t add up. “

Exactly. My first thought upon hearing of the incident was: “HOW!?” You can program alarms with respect to the ships position at any given time, assuming the GPS is functional. I understand nothing about this incident.


35 posted on 01/29/2012 10:56:41 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
No, what I'm saying is that many are holding out for upwards of a million. I know that Carnival offered $14,000, which I'd have laughed at if I were a passenger.
36 posted on 01/29/2012 11:52:46 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: nuconvert

It’s Princess or Royal Caribbean for me.. can’t afford the Cunard or Crystal cruises. May try a Celebrity before I keel over. :-)

never sailed with Carnival. Ya get what ya pay for, if your lucky I reckun.

Some folks want an experience they can remember the rest of their life. Some just like to party or lay around like walruses in the sun, sip and feed and read and nod.

I wonder if the folks onboard were advised of the closeness of the pass to Giglio? On any cruise I’ve been on that I remember, they’d let ya know a thing like that.


37 posted on 01/29/2012 1:41:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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