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CONCISE ANALYSIS OF THE GEORGIA 2012 BALLOT HEARING: 1/26/12
The National Patriot website ^ | January 26, 2012 | Craig Andresen

Posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:42 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind

For the first time, this morning in Georgia, the question of Obama’s eligibility to serve, became official. No longer the stuff of speculation, no longer dismissible by liberals as something which will never be heard in court, Obama’s eligibility became a matter of an official court record.
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Also entered into evidence were documents, discs and expert testimony calling into question the legitimacy of Obama’s birth certificate, his Social Security number, his father’s immigration status, his real name and indeed Obama’s own citizenship status.

All of this in the effort to have Obama’s name kept off the Georgia ballot in 2012.

[SNIP]
The SS number assigned to Barack Obama is from a man born in 1890. It was issued in Connecticut to Obama in 1977 but at that time, again according to sworn testimony and evidence in court, Obama was living in his mother’s house in Hawaii.
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(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalpatriot.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; unqualified
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Easy reading...
Excellent analysis!

Nowhere to be found in the lamestream media --OR-- popular cable news outlets!

1 posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:53 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Thank you so much for the post. I’ve never visited this website before. It’s absolutely great.


2 posted on 01/29/2012 8:52:55 AM PST by FryingPan101 (My taglines always lose.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Saving for a later read. Thank you for posting.


3 posted on 01/29/2012 9:03:58 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Link to OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW posted yesterday; It too sheds much light on this issue.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2839469/posts

4 posted on 01/29/2012 9:06:59 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I get “Database connection error” or some such message on both links.


5 posted on 01/29/2012 9:07:49 AM PST by eCSMaster (Democrats:always looking for someone else to blame)
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To: truthkeeper
Saving for a later read

I tried to read it, and all I got was ERROR READING DATABASE.

6 posted on 01/29/2012 9:08:59 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

for later...


7 posted on 01/29/2012 9:09:14 AM PST by ElayneJ
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To: Wings-n-Wind

The rat media will have to report this eventually, and when they do, they’ll look quite stupid. It’s the same way that the media ignored all of the controversy surrounding Van Jones but were finally forced to report it when he resigned.


8 posted on 01/29/2012 9:19:07 AM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Looks like the Whitey House took this site down.


9 posted on 01/29/2012 9:20:32 AM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

THe links work fine for me. Thanks for posting.


10 posted on 01/29/2012 9:25:30 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Mr. Wright

The site just came up for me when I tried it just now.


11 posted on 01/29/2012 9:25:30 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: Spunky

Mark for later reading.


12 posted on 01/29/2012 9:30:51 AM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Keep trying...

THIS SITE HOST SEEMS EASILY OVERLOADED...

TRY THE HOME PAGE:
Then navigate---easy to find these articles.

TRY THIS LINK

13 posted on 01/29/2012 9:30:53 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Mr. Wright

Got to the site now . . . very interesting. Sadly, State-run media will continue to ignore the story - I don’t care how big it gets. They are destined to save this guys ass by whatever it takes.


14 posted on 01/29/2012 9:34:16 AM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
It was issued in Connecticut to Obama in 1977....

Umm, it was issued in 1977. We don't know when 0b0z0 acquired it.

15 posted on 01/29/2012 9:36:23 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Thank you for posting.
Everyone needs to read this espeially the lamesteam media

The thing is the social security numvber issue alone should get some attention from media.
the other issue, of him not being natural born is open to arguement bu obamites as it is not clearly spelled out.
WE know what it means but ovbamits can use other interpretations to shove this aside.

How do you shove aside the SS number? There is nothing to “interpret”

thanks again
let’s keep spreading this around


16 posted on 01/29/2012 9:37:38 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

“The SS number assigned to Barack Obama is from a man born in 1890. It was issued in Connecticut to Obama in 1977”

The implication of the testimony is that the number was “issued” to the man born in 1890 not Obama.

That means Obama stole it at some point. Not necessarily in 1977.


17 posted on 01/29/2012 9:38:07 AM PST by Smokeyblue (Obama's got NBC problems and birth certificate problems - a bad case of Cluster F**ked.)
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To: GrandmaPatriot

Can you post a better link ... comes up does not exist!


18 posted on 01/29/2012 9:38:40 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JPG
Atlanta TV station WSB reported on this development on this mornings news.

They even put up a helpful graphic with bullet points that said the "birthers" think Obama is:

That's how they will "report" it.

19 posted on 01/29/2012 9:41:45 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: UCANSEE2

Top link didn’t work. Bottom link did.


20 posted on 01/29/2012 9:59:04 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: eCSMaster; All

Yep, links don’t work any more. Hope someone did a cut and paste.


21 posted on 01/29/2012 10:01:05 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: truthkeeper

Might want to read it before it disappears.


22 posted on 01/29/2012 10:05:44 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

In my case I have to continue to reload/refresh the page until it will load.
Must be a pretty busy site!

Now what’s with you Freepers?
So what if he ain’t natchul born?
So what if he’s got a phoney SSN?
So what if he’s Muslim trained?
So what if he’s an Alynski clone?
So what if his college records are invisible?
So what if he spends too much time in PahKeeStahn?
So what if his Pastor and wife hate America?
So what if he defies the constitution?
So what if his friends Rezco, Ayers et al are thugs?
So what if he loans your money by the trillions to his cronies?
Get over it!
He’s black and articulate and loved by the media.
What more do you need in a President?

Were this Richard Nixon the press would be 24/7.
But then it’s not.
It’s the Anointed One!!!

Our hope is that his administration will be exposed as illegal and his efforts reversed.
Prison time would be appropriate…


23 posted on 01/29/2012 10:08:13 AM PST by bksanders (Old Gets Older the Older I Get)
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Comment #24 Removed by Moderator

To: Wings-n-Wind
OBAMA ELIGIBILITY HEARINGS ON VIDEO NOW hearing video #1 http://www.youtube.com/​watch?feature=player_embedded&v​=rQT-FjoL3Lc#! video 2 http://www.youtube.com/​watch?feature=player_embedded&v​=UanNlP0VY9g video 3 http://www.youtube.com/​watch?v=LhJ6YK9tUQM&feature=pla​yer_embedded video 4 http://www.youtube.com/​watch?v=aeRTRogZxZI&feature=pla​yer_embedded video 5 http://www.youtube.com/​watch?v=1Txf-G0Ob0Y&feature=rel​ated video 6 http://www.youtube.com/​watch?feature=player_embedded&v​=lYw9b3MT6ow
25 posted on 01/29/2012 10:08:56 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: rfreedom4u
Might want to read it before it disappears.

Too late. It already vanished down the black hole.

At least I did skim it first. If someone has a ping list, please put me on it. Thanks!

26 posted on 01/29/2012 10:13:43 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: ElayneJ
Try this to go to the link. I just put it in html to Here. No rhyme or reason but seems to work.
27 posted on 01/29/2012 10:14:07 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: RaceBannon
OBAMA ELIGIBILITY HEARINGS ON VIDEO NOW

hearing

video #1

http://www.youtube.com/​watchfeature=player_embedded&v​=rQT-FjoL3Lc#!

video 2

http://www.youtube.com/​watchfeature=player_embedded&v​=UanNlP0VY9g

video 3

http://www.youtube.com/​watchv=LhJ6YK9tUQM&feature=pla​yer_embedded

video 4

http://www.youtube.com/​watchv=aeRTRogZxZI&feature=pla​yer_embedded

video 5

http://www.youtube.com/​watchv=1TxfG0Ob0Y&feature=rel​ated

video 6

http://www.youtube.com/​watchfeature=player_embedded&v​=lYw9b3MT6ow

28 posted on 01/29/2012 10:14:18 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Thanks, marking for future reference.


29 posted on 01/29/2012 10:22:48 AM PST by Techster
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To: Art in Idaho

Sigh...that link didn’t work for me either. Same message.


30 posted on 01/29/2012 10:23:14 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: Wings-n-Wind

bttt


31 posted on 01/29/2012 10:24:04 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: truthkeeper
Too late. It already vanished down the black hole.

The bottom link is working again.

32 posted on 01/29/2012 10:25:02 AM PST by houeto
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To: Red_Devil 232

It works for me. Try again or do a search on FR for “blow by blow”. It is posted under the Blogger section of FR.


33 posted on 01/29/2012 10:41:38 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: truthkeeper

Keep trying. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Must be overload.


34 posted on 01/29/2012 10:43:03 AM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: RaceBannon

All the links are error 404. Hope you down loaded them. They seem to be missing.


35 posted on 01/29/2012 10:46:48 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: RaceBannon

I found them but is the sound really, rally bad for you? I can hardly understand it.


36 posted on 01/29/2012 10:51:04 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: GrandmaPatriot

I’ve never seen videos disappear from Youtube so fast. I am sure it isn’t an accident.


37 posted on 01/29/2012 10:58:58 AM PST by Scutter
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To: Scutter

I found them by searching Obama Eligibility Hearing on You Tube. Try that.


38 posted on 01/29/2012 11:10:54 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Hillary! is closer to the nomination than one might have thought only a few weeks ago.

Wonder how that will change the dynamics of the election.


39 posted on 01/29/2012 11:21:14 AM PST by MichaelCorleone
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To: All
Link works about half the time, so here's this excellent article: (Hope okay with mods)

From: http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4149

FULL ANALYSIS OF OBAMA ELIGIBILITY HEARING

By Craig Andresen on January 26, 2012 at 2:09 pm

For the first time, this morning in Georgia, the question of Obama’s eligibility to serve, became official. No longer the stuff of speculation, no longer dismissible by liberals as something which will never be heard in court, Obama’s eligibility became a matter of an official court record.

What does it mean?

To answer that, one must look at the reason for the hearing to begin with.

For years, Orly Taitz and the Liberty Legal Foundation along with others, have questioned Obama’s legal right to serve. For years, that argument centered on the birth certificate and whether or not Obama was born in the United States.

What made this case and this hearing different, is that it mattered not where Obama was born rather, at the center of the stage, would be the nationality of Obama’s father.

Obama’s father was never a U.S. Citizen and a great deal of evidence to that point was entered into the official record this morning.

Another linchpin in all of this, is the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” which one must be, by writ of the Constitution, to hold the office of President. According to the plaintiffs in this hearing, that definition can be clearly found in the written opinion of the United States Supreme Court in the case of Minor vs Happersett from 1875.

That opinion, which by the way is backed up by several other Supreme Court opinions, states that for one to be a “Natural Born Citizen” both of one’s parents must be U.S. Citizens.

There is no opinion offered, at any time, by the Supreme Court in conflict with this definition and as the attorneys made clear this morning, while some lower court opinions say something else, they do not override nor do they directly conflict with, the Supreme Court decision from 1875.

If that definition is upheld, Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore has no standing to hold th office of President as per the Constitution.

This hearing today certainly didn’t end there.

Also entered into evidence were documents, discs and expert testimony calling into question the legitimacy of Obama’s birth certificate, his Social Security number, his father’s immigration status, his real name and indeed Obama’s own citizenship status.

All of this in the effort to have Obama’s name kept off the Georgia ballot in 2012.

Here is where it become even more interesting.

After being subpoenaed to appear and after an endless stream of excuses as to why he shouldn’t, neither Obama nor his attorney were at the hearing.

This means, all the evidence and all the expert testimony was entered into the official record without a response, a peep, or a rebuttal from Obama or his attorney.

At this point, all of it remains unchallenged. All of it.

This begs the question; Can a sitting President be commanded by subpoena, to appear in court? Many claim Executive Privilege prevents it.

They would be wrong.

While EP can be claimed and upheld in cases of National Security or where it interferes with sensitive issues of security or the military, in other actions, outside those parameters, a court can compel even a sitting President to adhere to the rule of law.

In United States v. Nixon (1974), the Supreme Court of the United States, citing many landmark cases, including Chief Justice Marshall’s opinions Marbury v. Madison (1803)and United States v. Burr, said that it was incumbent on the High Court to balance between the president’s need for confidentiality in executing his constitutional duties, on the one hand, and “the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice,” on the other. The Court’s unanimous opinion delivered by Chief Justice Warren E. Burger was careful to give great credence to the president’s need for complete candor and objectivity from his advisors. The justices also recognized the need for a great degree of confidentiality for the internal deliberations of the executive branch of government. Chief Justice Burger agreed that, if military or diplomatic secrets were at stake, the Court might reach a different conclusion.

However, given that President Nixon’s claims were based on a blanket statement of executive privilege without claiming that any state secrets were at stake, the constitutional duty of the courts is to guarantee due process of law, something that Nixon’s actions were gravely impairing, according to the Court. The justices ruled that President Nixon had to comply with the subpoena duces tecum issued by Chief Judge John J. Sirica of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. Nixon immediately prepared to turn over the subpoenaed materials to Chief Judge Sirica.

Presidents since Nixon have continued to claim that the special place the presidency holds under America’s constitutional system demands that much of its internal deliberations remain secret and privileged. When faced with investigations, special prosecutors, subpoenas, and impeachment proceedings, President William J. Clinton, for example, claimed that much of what went on in the Oval Office was protected by executive privilege and executive immunity, and that he and his aides should not have to respond to subpoenas. As was the case with President Nixon, President Clinton eventually accepted his and his office’s place under the rule of law. Since United States v. Nixon, executive branch claims of immunity from the normal processes of the American legal system have been tempered by the fact that the constitutional demands of due process of law and justice are likely to outweigh claims of executive immunity from subpoenas.

It is yet to be seen whether the court in Georgia will take action regarding Obama’s failure to appear and the failure of his attorney to participate.

Another question worth asking; Why no media coverage of this hearing?

Granted, the mainstream or elite or whatever we’re calling them these days media lean hard to the left and it should come as no surprise that they refuse to give an eye blink toward this hearing. But what of Fox News and even their local Georgia affiliates? Why was nary a word of any broadcast given to today’s hearing?

I suspect it has a great deal to do with their prior position that the birth certificate was real…case closed. I also suspect, that should the Georgia judge find compelling reason to exclude Obama from the state’s 2012 ballot, this WILL become a story.

For those in the conservative blogosphere, this IS a story and IS newsworthy?

How often is a sitting President subpoenaed? How often has a sitting President’s eligibility to appear on a state ballot been questioned in court? How often has a sitting President’s birth certificate been questioned as fake under oath? How often has a sitting President’s eligibility to hold office been testified to in court? How often has a sitting President’s nationality been testified to in court?

This is news. Regardless of what side one takes…This is news.

Never before has a sitting President’s Social Security numbers been shown by evidence and sworn testimony in court as being fraudulent.

The SS number assigned to Barack Obama is from a man born in 1890. It was issued in Connecticut to Obama in 1977 but at that time, again according to sworn testimony and evidence in court, Obama was living in his mother’s house in Hawaii.

One witness in court testified that Obama’s SS number was run through the E-Verify system, the system used to validate a person’s citizenship, and it came back as a high degree of being fraudulent.

Anyway one looks at this, it is news.

At the end of the 2 hour hearing, Judge Michael Malihi adjourned the hearing gathered up all the evidence and the court reporters transcript and returned to his chambers.

At this time, we wait, for how long, we don’t know, for his decision as to whether or not Obama’s name is eligible to appear on the 2012 Georgia ballot.

One can easily suspect, that should he find against Obama in this hearing, a tidal wave of similar cases will be filed in other states. Already, similar cases are pending in some states.

Orly Taitz, the Liberty Legal Foundation and others stand ready to carry forward in such cases.

We also await a decision as to what, if any action, might be taken regarding Obama’s failure to appear and his attorney’s decision to simply not participate under a court subpoena.

Why, if as liberals have claimed for years, all of this is folly and easily dismissed by “facts”, did Obama’s attorney not simply present those “facts” and put an end to it? It would seem that letting it all go unchallenged clearly adds fuel to the fire.

The mere presentation of evidence and sworn testimony today lends a great deal of credibility to the arguments as it is now a matter of official record.

A default judgment should be rendered and no doubt, it will be appealed but we suspect the judge will disallow Obama’s name from appearing on the Georgia ballot. No doubt too, other states will begin to file similar complaints.

The final questions, left unanswered and unchallenged by Obama and his attorney are…Who is this guy Obama really? Who is this who by evidence presented lived in Indonesia and Hawaii at the exact same time? Who is this guy whose SS number indicates he is more than 120 years old and lived in a state in which he never lived. Who is this guy who has been known by at least 2 different names? Who is this guy to which evidence in court indicates is a citizen of Indonesia? Who is this Obama whose birth certificate, shown in evidence and sworn testimony, has been created through layering and computer manipulation and has serial numbers out of sequence with those of others born in the claimed hospital within 24 hours of his supposed birth?

Whoever he is…Whoever he really is…he now occupies the oval office.

We the People. . .

40 posted on 01/29/2012 11:29:37 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Wonder how that will change the dynamics of the election.

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Hillary_denied

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I am not sure they ever received the electoral @$$-whuppin'they really deserve for all the BS, subterfuge, and defilement of the Oval Office....

Klintoon_X42

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Just sayin'...

41 posted on 01/29/2012 11:36:27 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Smokeyblue

You raise an EXCELLENT detailed discrepancy point that is like the many I’ve noted during the entire “Who is OB?” investigation.

(1) The SSA# being used by OB seems to have been associated with a gent born in 1890, but who never worked or used it.

(2) Sometime in the mid 70s, this number somehow became associated with OB.

(3) The claim that it was issued to “someone” in CT at a time that OB was nowhere nearby is what sheds suspicion onto the legitimacy of OB using this particular SSA#.

(4) If indeed, the original application for this SSA#, (which OB is fighting tooth and nail to suppress), shows that ANYONE other than OB applied for it, the game is over.

(5) Don’t expect them to release that application willingly (ie w/o involving the SCOTUS).


42 posted on 01/29/2012 11:42:35 AM PST by CanuckYank
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To: Smokeyblue; Mr. Wright; Red Steel

I think the clincher is, as I undetstand it, that this person died IN HAWAII ! — and Grandma most likely had his SS# transferred to her grandson....a CRIME worth investigating ! I read Orly’s messages regarding Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse earlier - I dontaed to his case and after reading Orly’s comments, I am quite dismayed that this sheriff chose to do NOTHING at this crucial hearing. Here is the guy that purposedly said “show me the micro-fiche ! “ and now he (like Trump) is lying down like a dead duck on this outrageous BC fraud ! What gives ?????? P.S. Mr. Wright - I like your “Whitey House” line !


43 posted on 01/29/2012 11:48:59 AM PST by rocco55
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To: rocco55
Excellent point:

I think the clincher is, as I understand it, that this person died IN HAWAII ! — and Grandma most likely had his SS# transferred to her grandson....a CRIME worth investigating!

Any PI's in Hawaii want to take this on? FReepers? This one issue would cave the whole administration. Will have to be done fast. . Research, research!

44 posted on 01/29/2012 11:58:45 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: rocco55

Wow
I have not read this before
“I think the clincher is, as I undetstand it, that this person died IN HAWAII ! ‘

Do you have a link? This makes some sense , on how 0dumbo would have gotten that particular SSN


45 posted on 01/29/2012 12:01:11 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: All
After reading this and following this for years I keep thinking just Who is Barack Obama and What is he Hiding and Why? I also am still bugged by this article Was Obama “groomed” by the Soviets? I remember first reading it and getting the proverbial chill and hairs on back of the neck thing. Has anyone debunked this? Urban legend or maybe Fact? I'll sure be glad when November 6, 2012 gets here. But what if. . .
46 posted on 01/29/2012 12:20:23 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind; Art in Idaho; bksanders; CanuckYank; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; eCSMaster; ElayneJ; ...
The best possible outcome would be, that this judge writes on Wednesday or Thursday...
This court finds that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen according to Article II, and is therefore not eligible to be on any Georgia ballot.
...and the judge may very well write that.

It would be the clearest way to state his finding so that it gets the most attention from the MSM and other states, and is not written off as just a local 'ballot access' issue!

47 posted on 01/29/2012 12:23:08 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: rocco55
I'll go ahead and make the next leap of logic from here: IF the Connecticut man indeed passed away in Hawaii, and IF that SS# ended up being used by someone in Obama's family, then there would be only one reason to have been pilfered it for BO... they couldn't get him an American SS# by any legal means.
48 posted on 01/29/2012 12:27:13 PM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: All
Ever wonder how some states like Florida have overwhelmingly GOP legislatures yet could go for a demoKKKrat in a national election or even have a national election be close as in 2000??

One possible explanation: vote manufacturing will not affect local elections nearly as much as national elections, i.e. the rats can manufacture all the votes they like in their own districts and pubbies will still win THEIRS, but the same is not true of a national election. GIVEN that, nobody should feel any remorse about shutting the dems down by shutting down a campaign for an illegitimate candidate like Bork Obunga when pubbies have the power in the state governments to do it.

49 posted on 01/29/2012 12:30:06 PM PST by varmintman
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To: alancarp; rocco55
I'll go ahead and make the next leap of logic from here: IF the Connecticut man indeed passed away in Hawaii, and IF that SS# ended up being used by someone in Obama's family, then there would be only one reason to have been pilfered it for BO... they couldn't get him an American SS# by any legal means.

This would seem to argue against a birth on U.S. soil in any U.S. state or territory.

Here's a thought to entertain: If BO wasn't born in Honolulu, HI (as he so claims) do you think he'd be too embarrassed to admit he was really born in oh, let's say St. Louis MO, or Pocatello ID, or some other such place? No? If he really had been born ANYWHERE in the U.S. he would have admitted the evidence by now, however sheepishly (since such evidence wouldn't jibe with the "Dreams from My Father" narrative of his life).

50 posted on 01/29/2012 12:34:00 PM PST by thecodont
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