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CONCISE ANALYSIS OF THE GEORGIA 2012 BALLOT HEARING: 1/26/12
The National Patriot website ^ | January 26, 2012 | Craig Andresen

Posted on 01/29/2012 8:43:42 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind

For the first time, this morning in Georgia, the question of Obama’s eligibility to serve, became official. No longer the stuff of speculation, no longer dismissible by liberals as something which will never be heard in court, Obama’s eligibility became a matter of an official court record.
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Also entered into evidence were documents, discs and expert testimony calling into question the legitimacy of Obama’s birth certificate, his Social Security number, his father’s immigration status, his real name and indeed Obama’s own citizenship status.

All of this in the effort to have Obama’s name kept off the Georgia ballot in 2012.

[SNIP]
The SS number assigned to Barack Obama is from a man born in 1890. It was issued in Connecticut to Obama in 1977 but at that time, again according to sworn testimony and evidence in court, Obama was living in his mother’s house in Hawaii.
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(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalpatriot.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; unqualified
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Looking at the evidence presented at the hearing, Judge Malihi and Sec. of State Kemp could claim that Obama is not eligible for the Georgia ballot for 3 distinct reasons, none of which are place of birth.

1. His father was never a U.S. citizen so Obama fails to meet the Minor vs Happersett standard for Natural Born Citizen. Any standard for NBC other than that found in Minor vs Happersett would permit the child of Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez to be Pres. of the U.S. if said child was born on U.S. soil to a U.S. citizen mother and met the other qualifications listed in Article 2, Section 1 of our Constitution.

2. Based on passport and Indonesian school records placed in evidence, it would appear that Obama is currently an Indonesian citizen as there was nothing presented by Obama or his attorney showing he restored his U.S. citizenship upon returning to the U.S. You would think it would be relatively easy to show proof that his U.S. citizenship had been restored when he returned to Hawaii.

3. Because the Social Security # he is using fails when submitted for the E-Verify program, he would be ineligible for federal employment because he is committing felony fraud by using a SSN issued to someone else.


51 posted on 01/29/2012 12:38:17 PM PST by sforkjoe57 (How much longer must Americans be slaves to the stupidity of John Maynard Keynes?)
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To: GrandmaPatriot

I did download them, maybe they just hated the sound too!


52 posted on 01/29/2012 12:45:54 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: thecodont

Yes—in the modern vernacular “Born in Hawaii....NOT” !


53 posted on 01/29/2012 12:54:07 PM PST by rocco55
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To: RWGinger; Red Steel; alancarp; thecodont

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2702617/posts

Here’s the link....Atty Mario Apuzzo from 3/14/2011. Mr. Ludwig died in HI !


54 posted on 01/29/2012 1:01:53 PM PST by rocco55
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To: rocco55

Thank you for thzt link
this is Incredible and shows how in the tank for 0dumbo the media is
including Fox
These are provable noncontrovertible facts.
There has to be a way to get this covered.

If media will report on rumors of trig palin how can they not report this?

thank you for the link
I wonder why the Lidwig guy had 2 SSn


55 posted on 01/29/2012 2:20:01 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: rocco55

Thank you for thzt link
this is Incredible and shows how in the tank for 0dumbo the media is
including Fox
These are provable noncontrovertible facts.
There has to be a way to get this covered.

Do I dunerstand it right? That the racist white grandma applied for odumbo using Mr Ludwig’s info since she knew no one would catch it
thank you for the link
I wonder why the Ludwig guy had 2 SSN? How did the SS people issue 2


56 posted on 01/29/2012 2:22:32 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: rocco55

One last question
if 9dumbo has been using tat SSN in his own name all these years I guess the social security dept never checks the name against the registered name unles someone E-verifies?

and since this info came out last april and we haven’t seen any media on this how can we can this covered.

No one wants to touch it since they will be called a birther


57 posted on 01/29/2012 2:27:57 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: RWGinger

The number belonged to a Harrison J. Bounel, who was a relative of Michelle Obama. I saw this in the SS Death Index. Last time I checked, it had been taken off the Index.


58 posted on 01/29/2012 2:28:11 PM PST by abclily
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To: RaceBannon

Looks like the links have been scrubbed. Figures.


59 posted on 01/29/2012 2:32:05 PM PST by BIGWALLY
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To: abclily

‘The number belonged to a Harrison J. Bounel, who was a relative of Michelle Obama”

What number?
The number referenced here is the SSN 0dumbo used and has been shown to belong to a Mr Ludwig of conn
what number are you referencing?

I did see 0dumbos draft registration with this Conn SSN and I know that is still archived somewhere where 0dumbo can erase


60 posted on 01/29/2012 2:38:13 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: RWGinger

I meant the SS number that was referenced some months back. I don’t remember the exact digits. I checked it in the SS Death Index at that time. Later it was not there. What are the digits of the one associated with Mr. Ludwig? The one I checked was associated with Harrison J. Bounel - a relative of Michelle.


61 posted on 01/29/2012 2:49:24 PM PST by abclily
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To: rocco55

Didn’t granny work for a bank in Hawaii. Could be where and how the SS# was obtained. If the gent had an account at said bank and he dies then granny could have had that information from the bank.


62 posted on 01/29/2012 2:52:18 PM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: GrandmaPatriot

I read through the link provided by rocco?
In it someone posted a link to the SSdeath index
and the man Jean Paul Ludwig is shown to have died in HI
but he had a different SSN.
so if the SS death index knew he died how could odumbo be using his number.

I want this vile POS gone but I don’t want us to make fools of ourselves with inaccurate info
the link showing social sevurity death index is on page 4 or 5 from poster named perriquine


63 posted on 01/29/2012 2:58:01 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Be still my heart!!!!!! :D


64 posted on 01/29/2012 3:03:40 PM PST by Ditter
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To: abclily

Interesting that the SSN
042-68-4425 has been reported to belong to both Jean Paul Ludwig and now the harrison J Bounel

and both men are listed as dead by the SSDI
so if social securty knows they are dead someone else can not be using their number.
this has gotten weird


65 posted on 01/29/2012 3:15:13 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I just sent this article to everyone on my email lists, thanks for posting.


66 posted on 01/29/2012 3:19:38 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Wings-n-Wind

“The SS number assigned to Barack Obama is from a man born in 1890. It was issued in Connecticut to Obama in 1977 but at that time, again according to sworn testimony and evidence in court, Obama was living in his mother’s house in Hawaii.”

Now that is very interesting. Are they sure that the SS number we have is the one Obama gave us? If so there is some fraud in play here.


67 posted on 01/29/2012 3:27:48 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Ditter

I want that lyin vile POS 0dumbo gone as much as anyone but we should verify before we send out

The SSN supposedlu belonging to Mr Ludwig has also been “ proven “ to belond to someone named harrison bounell read 4 or5 posts abobe yours
042-68-4425

PLUS the Mr lidwig is listed as dead in the social security index so it is unlikely that 0dumbo could be using a known dead person’s ssn.

We still don’t know how he got a Conn SSB . but there are too many holes in the mr Ludwig or even the harrison bounell stories to get too excited.


68 posted on 01/29/2012 3:28:48 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

“Easy reading...
Excellent analysis!

Nowhere to be found in the lamestream media —OR— popular cable news outlets!”

If Obama is denied ballot access in Georgia not only will he not be missed in that State, it will get the attention of the Main stream media.

As for Obama’s defense claiming that his legitimacy has already been “verified” by the previous election it should be pointed out with indignation to the court that Obama’s legitimacy was not even checked.


69 posted on 01/29/2012 3:36:05 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: RWGinger

So you are waiting until it comes out on CNN to even be suspicious? The more people that know that this is being looked at the better.


70 posted on 01/29/2012 3:38:04 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

??
Uh NO and not sure why my asking to get facts straignt suggests i don’t wan the luinb POS investigated fully

But to base it on a SSN that belongs to a dead named Ludwig who is listed as Dead by the social security death index ( so how can 0dumbo use a ssn that SS knows belongs to a dead man
or MAYBE the same ssn belongs to a man named Harrison Bounel, a relative of Moochelle

see?

if we are going to ask for coverage let us please not send out information that can be shown to be wrong.
That is all I am saying


71 posted on 01/29/2012 3:45:56 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Mr. Wright
Looks like the Whitey House took this site down.

No, they didn't take it down. It is just getting too many hits too handle at the time. It works fine now.

72 posted on 01/29/2012 3:47:11 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: RWGinger

No one wants to touch it....Yes, agreed ! It only took 3 1/2 years for a judge to hear these charges ! How a pResident can have this much fraud in his life and squeak by without a peep from the press is just downright EVIL ! The powers in control have VERY deep pockets ! This kills me ! I want to put up a billboard “FRAUD - SOMEONE DO ‘SOMETHING’ QUICK ! “


73 posted on 01/29/2012 3:51:36 PM PST by rocco55
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thanks . . . I was eventually able to get to the site.
Guess all we can do now is keep our fingers crossed.


74 posted on 01/29/2012 3:54:08 PM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Wings-n-Wind; All

Why Did Obama Not Attend Thursday’s Hearing in Atlanta?

http://gulagbound.com/25619/why-did-obama-not-attend-thursdays-hearing-in-atlanta/


75 posted on 01/29/2012 3:56:33 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: RWGinger

Send out information? All we have are questions, I want as many people out there wondering, asking questions and demanding answers as possible. Not so sure what you want.


76 posted on 01/29/2012 4:20:08 PM PST by Ditter
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To: sforkjoe57

sforkjoe57, part of what you said was:

“...Any standard for NBC other than that found in Minor vs Happersett would permit the child of Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez to be Pres. of the U.S. if said child was born on U.S. soil to a U.S. citizen mother and met the other qualifications listed in Article 2, Section 1 of our Constitution.....”

It’s even worse than that. A child of Fidel Castro and a (non U.S. citizen) daughter of Hugo Chavez could be president if the child was born on U.S. soil. This is CLEARLY the reason why the founders included in the constitution a requirement (Natural Born Citizen) for the Presidency and Vice-Presidency that was HIGHER than the mere “citizen” requirement for Senators and Representatives to the House. So a standard lesser than the TRUE natural born citizen standard would not require EITHER parent to be a citizen at the time of the child’s birth. And that, to me, is a scary thought.


77 posted on 01/29/2012 4:25:04 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: BIGWALLY

not anymore!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQT-FjoL3Lc&feature=player_embedded


78 posted on 01/29/2012 5:15:22 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
here is the howler of the year.

"In 2008 the president got about 47% of the vote and this is after the campaign pulled out 6 weeks early to focus on North Carolina," explained Michael Berlon, Georgia Democratic Party Chairman. "With the changes we've had in demographics it's a pretty sound political strategy. They are doing their best to keep him off the ballot because there's a pretty good chance we could win Georgia for the President in 2012 Link

79 posted on 01/29/2012 5:44:22 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Ditter

“Send out information?”
You ask me this as if YOU did not post that you’d send this out
Uh you said you’d send this to everyone you know
but what are you sending?
This information is not verifiable. Have you read the information presented here?
We who want the truth and this POS 0dumbo gone don’t do our cause any good when we post that the SSN used by 0dumbo belongs to another man from Conn named Ludwig and 0dumbo’s grandmother was able to snag the SSN for 0dumbo since she knew the dead man had no heirs and she knew this because she volunteered for the HI records dept OR maybe it was because she worked in a bank

Or no wait that SNN belonged to a man named harrison Bounel who was related to Moochelle

However we Do know the SS Death index has both men dead and we DO know the SS dept does NOT use the same number twice

so when you send people this information are you explaining all the errors and confusion?

I do not want this issue to go the way of the birther issue and all this distortion does not help
so if you really care do NOT send out misinformation like this.


80 posted on 01/29/2012 5:49:05 PM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Art in Idaho
"Excellent point:

I think the clincher is, as I understand it, that this person died IN HAWAII ! — and Grandma most likely had his SS# transferred to her grandson....a CRIME worth investigating!

Any PI's in Hawaii want to take this on? FReepers? This one issue would cave the whole administration. Will have to be done fast. . Research, research!"

I think using a social security number that doesn't belong to you is otherwise known as IDENTITY THEFT, is it not?  And isn't that a FELONY under the law?

After they arrest him for indentity theft, the authorities should dig up granny's body in Hawaii and figure out how Obama murdered her to keep her mouth shut.

 

81 posted on 01/29/2012 6:02:52 PM PST by CaptainKrunch
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To: rocco55

Thanks much for that ping... and the link. Cheers!


82 posted on 01/29/2012 6:12:43 PM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Sounds to me like Bammy’s Granny snagged him a SS# from and expired tourist, not realizing the computer age would be able to instantly expose it.


83 posted on 01/29/2012 6:15:56 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: RWGinger

Ginger you and I are not understanding each other, how about we just give it up if this doesn’t work.

This ‘has’ been brought before a judge, I just want people to be aware of that ‘fact’ (it is a fact) so they will be expecting an answer. I don’t want the MSM to be able to sweep it all under the rug so when (and if) it turns out he is a fraud, I want the whole thing to be out in the open.


84 posted on 01/29/2012 6:29:46 PM PST by Ditter
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To: sforkjoe57
Looking at the evidence presented at the hearing, Judge Malihi and Sec. of State Kemp could claim that Obama is not eligible for the Georgia ballot for 3 distinct reasons, none of which are place of birth:

************

I like it... [Can we all say... "trifecta"?]
I like it...
I like it...

All 3...
--Or any combination of the above...

Thanks for your thoughts..

85 posted on 01/29/2012 6:33:48 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Ditter

You’re quite welcome...


86 posted on 01/29/2012 6:36:47 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: CaptainKrunch
After they arrest him for identity theft, the authorities should dig up granny's body in Hawaii and figure out how Obama murdered her to keep her mouth shut.

Grandma's ashes were personally dumped in the Pacific by Obama, daughter Malia and sister Maya. Photo Here. Rumor has it Michelle was ecstatic after the ashes were one with the ocean.

87 posted on 01/29/2012 6:55:16 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

"Grandma's ashes were personally dumped in the Pacific by Obama, daughter Malia and sister Maya. Photo Here. Rumor has it Michelle was ecstatic after the ashes were one with the ocean."

Wow.  He took care of the granny problem didn't he.

 

88 posted on 01/29/2012 7:36:49 PM PST by CaptainKrunch
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To: CaptainKrunch
Wow. He took care of the granny problem didn't he.

I read somewhere Michelle actually jumped on him with glee - almost knocked him down, when they came down from the cliff. Don't have the source, but remember reading it. A big 'celebration' that the ashes were indeed gone?

89 posted on 01/29/2012 9:41:41 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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