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One More S&P 500 Vs. Baltic Dry Chart...

Joe Weisenthal
January 30,2012

Yesterday we wrote about the big plunge in the Baltic Dry Index, and advised people not to worry too much since the Baltic Dry is such a lousy economic indicator.

It's also a totally useless predictor of the market.

Ron Greiss of The Chart Store forwards us this chart of the S&P 500 vs. The Baltic Dry Index. What you should look at is the chart at the bottom. When the black line is going up, the Baltic Dry is outperforming the S&P. When it's going down, the Baltic Dry is underperforming.

What's clear is that a) the black line is all over the place and that b) it's not that rare for the S&P to rise during periods when the Baltic Dry Index is falling, such as, well, the entire market since September.

Bottom line: The Baltic Dry index is a measure of shipping costs. That's pretty much it.


15 posted on 01/30/2012 1:22:36 PM PST by blam
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18 posted on 01/30/2012 3:22:08 PM PST by blam
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I am mostly in agreement with your clip of Weisenthal. There is a lot of noise in the Baltic Dry Index. However, I think this latest dip is as much related to a Chinese slowdown, especially in real estate, than anything else. These dry shippers ship things like iron ore, cement, gravel, etc, that would be used in construction in China. It doesn’t necessarily connect to the US or Europe as well right now.


19 posted on 01/30/2012 4:01:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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—Bottom line: The Baltic Dry index is a measure of shipping costs. That’s pretty much it.—

The bottom line is only halfway complete. It says what the Baltic Dry index is a measure of. So, what’s the S&P 500 index a measure of? Faith? the value of the currency used to measure it?


20 posted on 01/31/2012 4:53:24 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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