Skip to comments.‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Posted on 01/30/2012 11:38:58 AM PST by OPS4
Over the weekend, the Catholic Churchs letter went beyond simply issuing oppositional rhetoric to media. Instead, priests read an open note to congregations across the country, dubbing the administrations take on womens health and religious violations as an attack on their faith. In the letter, Bishops highlighted what they called an alarming and serious matter, as their words contended that the federal government has dealt a heavy blow to the Catholic population.
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Gotta say, I don’t understand Obama’s election calculus. Are there really that many minorities+yuppies in America? Because he’s alienated everyone else.
Lot of support here
Not in my parish...this is the first I’m hearing of this.
Here’s an oddity... at the conservative Catholic parish I currently attend, under the Eparchy of Parma diocese, a variation of this letter was indeed read aloud by our pastor during this Sunday’s homily (and was applauded). However, at the parish I grew up in (and my parents still attend), there was absolutely no mention of the letter. This parish is under the Archdiocese of Chicago, so their bishop is the “conservative” Cardinal Francis George, former President of USCCB. Does anyone know if Cardinal George sent out such a letter? I checked the Archdiocese of Chicago’s webpage as well as Cardinal George’s personal page and I see no reference to such a letter. I’d like to investigate this one without calling the Archdiocese of Chicago office and telling them I’m snooping around (and while we’re at it, I’d also like to know what happened to the “transition plan” that Fr. Pfleger promised to present to the Archdiocese of Chicago “by the end of the year” in 2011)
Considering that the Catholic heirarchy kissed the democrats’ backsides in the last election with their positions agreeing with the democrats on everything except this topic, I’d say the irony is rather enjoyable.
Well, they DID ask for it (sort of).
According to www.catholicnews.com, Barack Obama enjoyed the support of 54% of Catholic voters in 2008, a bit higher than he received from the country as a whole (52%).
George W. Bush probably stole it, just like he did with Barack Obama's proposed FY2010, FY2011, FY2012 and FY2013 budgets...
It was not read at my small South Ga parish. But I have forwarded it to many in the church and emailed my Priest and Deacon if I can expect to hear it next week. I will see our Priest face to face Wednesday and this will be brought up.
Our priests in NC read the letter, but I got the impression it wasn’t a mandated thing - Father decided it was worth spending a homily on, and the congregation applauded when he was finished (those who believe in clapping in church, anyway). Of course it would be up to the individual bishop to require it anyway.
Not in my parish...this is the first Im hearing of this.”
You’ve hit the nail on the head! Too much “ecclesiastical freelancing” on the part of individual priests and the “higher ups” in the Catholic clergy. The “radical priests” don’t get eliminated. It’s the same thing with the Mormons. Romney and Reid get a pass on their blatant disregard for that church’s basic teachings. Oh well, so much for “organized religion.” It’s devolved into “The God Busniess.” Money and political clout trump theology every time. Just have to wonder what The Lord thinks of all of it.
Ah, the expected conclusions of a belief in works-based salvation...
of course, the promise of the credit for “doing” good works without actually personally sacrificing anything, ie, through using the government to tax the other guy to do “your” good works,
is appealing to liberals of all stripes.
Vatican II and its liberalizations did some horrible things to the Church and the membership. Of those who reject it, I can assure you not a one of us voted for the obamanation.
Unfortunately about half that population is lapsed and half is active. Churchgoing Catholics lean conservative.
But only 49% of weekly church-going Catholic voters (http://spectator.org/archives/2011/04/25/obama-faces-hard-times-with-ca) - and I'll bet considerable lower among Catholic voters who go every week to a parish that actually preaches Catholic beliefs (not St. Kumbaya).
The letter is featured prominantly on the Archdiocese of Hartford website, but I did not see any kind of mandate that parish priests read or provide it to parishoners.
Archbishop Mansell has mandated that other messages be read to parishoners in the past. Perhaps he will in the future...the letter states:
“The Dioceses of Bridgeport and Norwich, as well as the Ukrainian Diocese of Stamford, will be joining us in the Archdiocese of Hartford as we mount a campaign against this horrific development.”
I think I’ll write a note to the archdiocese, suggesting that this letter SHALL be read to parishoners.
Obama picking a fight with the Vatican; does anyone know where I can get a bet down?
When I visited my parent's house, they never heard of the letter. The first time they noticed it was in the bulletin I brought from my parish. I assumed that my diocese bishop must have specifically written the letter just for the Eparchy of Parma.
Now comes this article on FR saying all Catholic bishops in the U.S. were supposed to send out a variation of that letter. I wonder how many of them actually did so? Especially since the Archdiocese of Chicago is one of the biggest of the country and in the heart of Obama's power base.
If any Freeper wishes to contact their Archbishop, remember:
Addressing a letter: Most Reverend N______N ____,Archbishop
Salutation: Your Excellency:
Concluding a letter: Asking Your Excellency’s blessing, I am, Yours respectfully in Christ, N.
Even among the bishops, if Obama paints the election as between helping the poor and being nice to illegal aliens (himself) and helping the rich and being mean to illegals (the Republicans), he could get a lot of their votes despite this issue.
In my parish the bishop's letter (almost identical to the one from the Bishop of Phoenix posted here a couple of days ago) was included as an insert in the bulletin, and part of the sermon was about it, although it wasn't read out in its entirety. Maybe the assumption was that we can read.
The Church will not do what it regards as killing. That is nether hard to understand nor hard to accept.
Thou out American history it has always been perfectly acceptable. Only totalitarians like Obama have a problem with that.
I am a Catholic and BO didn’t get my vote nor will he ever get my vote. I consider him Mr. Evil. I do have Catholic friends who were sucked in and voted for him. I think regular Catholics are going to have to make a decision on just who they are going to follow the Catholic church or BO and his evil liberal liars.
Don’t for one minute rely on all Catholics to vote Republican or pro-life. My MIL has regularly endorsed Democrats, laughs at gays, even advised her daughter to go on the Pill. Voted for Obama and concvinced all of her crony friends to do the same.
Liberal Catholics are all around us — and they could care less about what the Church says about anything. Oh, but they go to Mass, every week, sometimes daily.
We’ve tried to have conversations with her about her voting habits ... she is convinced Republicans are entirely evil ...even though we tell her all about abortion, Planned Parenthood, etc.
SOMEONE did a number of these types of people a long time ago ... they don’t even think straight.
Doesn’t anyone see what this is? Its not an attack on religion. If the Catholic Church disagrees with the mandated policy and no longer provides medical coverage to its employees, where will the employees be forced to go for coverage? Why the federal gov’t, of course!
Unfortunately, this train left the station 40 years ago, and the Catholic bishops and the entire Protestant “church” missed it. Now they are trying to rally an army that no longer exists.
Freepmail wagglebee to subscribe or unsubscribe from the moral absolutes ping list.
Speak honestly: abortion is the killing of tiny human beings in the womb Denver bishop
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Your work in violating the Eighth Commandment will be duly rewarded during your particular judgment.
Remind your mother-in-law that eternity is forever.
I am sorry that you ended up with ole Hank, but I was thrilled to see him removed from my old stomping grounds. He has got to be getting close to retirement isn't he.
Of course now here in Va I am stuck with DeLorenzo who is almost as bad.
Now they need to go further and explicitly tell the congregation not to vote for this murderous B@$T@RD.
How many divisions does the Pope have?
What hypocrites, are they so blind that they would go against their church's principle values in order to elect the "evil emperor?"
Wonder what will happen if we have no choice in the next election. Romney is a pro-choicer. I'm about to write the Republic National Committee and tell them that if Romney runs against Obama, I can not in good conscience vote for him. If all the Catholics in this country wrote the RNC, do you think they would get the message? Or, are they so arrogant that it will make no difference.
" . . . Catholics are going to have to make a decision on just who they are going to follow the Catholic church or BO and his evil liberal liars."from cumbo78 in #27:
Cumbo78 hit the nail on the head as far as the goal of the policy, but the point Maryhere makes is the the real reason we're hearing about this and having it come to the fore so early in the election season. They could easily have gone about this differently, and if they had been working hard political calculus they would have gone about it differently.
Announcing this before the election doesn't gain them a thing among their non-Catholic supporters and is sure to cost them votes in the election as well as probably costing them some number of workers during the campaign. However, we're dealing with a narcissist who will gloat over each and every Catholic who publicly supports him, every single percentage point of Catholic support any survey shows him retaining, and every single Catholic vote he gets on election day even if that is millions fewer votes than he got in 2008. While a politician would have made sure this wasn't out until after the election even to the point of having it officially "still under consideration" in case anyone found out about it before the election, a narcissist wants to make it clear to Catholics that they have to decide between him and the Pope.
Barry is a narcissist who dwells in his own world and is dedicated to his own radical agenda, an agenda shaped in part by twenty years of anti-American, anti-Jewish, and anti-Catholic hatred spewed by Rev. Wright each and every Sunday. Accordingly, Barry believes that by having the Catholic Church directly confronting him the Catholic votes he loses will be more than offset by the anti-Catholic votes he gains. Remember, Barry believes the ignorant Christians are clinging to their God and their guns, which fits right in with those same folks also clinging either to the Pope or to the "anti-Papist" sermons they must hear frequently at their Church. The main thing, though, is that Barry wants to gloat over how many Catholics listen to him rather than the Pope. It feeds his ego and helps keep his opinion that he is Christ like well inflated.
It's also a pretty good indication that there isn't anyone around him puts pragmatism ahead of of their socialist agenda.
It's predictable. It's what narcissists do, put what feeds their ego and strengthens the bubble they live in ahead of all else.
Sadly, the letter wasn’t read in my church either.
Maybe our best bet is to write a letter to our bishops respectfully asking if it will eventually be read in our diocese.
Are you counting voters? The Vatican can probably muster quite a few if the Kenyan wants a fight.
People clap in my church, I hate it, it just seems so undignified.
Billy Boy !
There’s a range of actions; this is not a cohesive effort (yet?) thru the USCCB. Some bishops issued press statements and posted on their website. Some went farther and ordered their statements read by the priests in their dioceses at Mass. Some have not done anything yet. From what I can see, Cardinal George is in the last category.
Take a look at this to get a broader view of what’s happening with bishops:
Have you ever seen an angry Irish Catholic???
(I have, not good times.....Obama’s taken on the wrong people....and this may well completely sink him.)
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