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‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
The Blaze ^ | 1/30/12 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 01/30/2012 11:38:58 AM PST by OPS4

Over the weekend, the Catholic Church’s letter went beyond simply issuing oppositional rhetoric to media. Instead, priests read an open note to congregations across the country, dubbing the administration‘s take on women’s health and religious violations as an attack on their faith. In the letter, Bishops highlighted what they called “an alarming and serious matter,“ as their words contended that the federal government has ”dealt a heavy blow” to the Catholic population.

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1 posted on 01/30/2012 11:39:14 AM PST by OPS4
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2 posted on 01/30/2012 11:42:53 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: OPS4

Gotta say, I don’t understand Obama’s election calculus. Are there really that many minorities+yuppies in America? Because he’s alienated everyone else.


3 posted on 01/30/2012 11:43:20 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: OPS4

Lot of support here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2840066/posts


4 posted on 01/30/2012 11:49:05 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: OPS4
StephanopolousCC, Captain Condom
5 posted on 01/30/2012 11:50:49 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: OPS4

Not in my parish...this is the first I’m hearing of this.


6 posted on 01/30/2012 11:52:05 AM PST by kidd
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To: OPS4; NYer; Salvation; Chi-townChief

Here’s an oddity... at the conservative Catholic parish I currently attend, under the Eparchy of Parma diocese, a variation of this letter was indeed read aloud by our pastor during this Sunday’s homily (and was applauded). However, at the parish I grew up in (and my parents still attend), there was absolutely no mention of the letter. This parish is under the Archdiocese of Chicago, so their bishop is the “conservative” Cardinal Francis George, former President of USCCB. Does anyone know if Cardinal George sent out such a letter? I checked the Archdiocese of Chicago’s webpage as well as Cardinal George’s personal page and I see no reference to such a letter. I’d like to investigate this one without calling the Archdiocese of Chicago office and telling them I’m snooping around (and while we’re at it, I’d also like to know what happened to the “transition plan” that Fr. Pfleger promised to present to the Archdiocese of Chicago “by the end of the year” in 2011)


7 posted on 01/30/2012 12:00:38 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: musicman

Considering that the Catholic heirarchy kissed the democrats’ backsides in the last election with their positions agreeing with the democrats on everything except this topic, I’d say the irony is rather enjoyable.


8 posted on 01/30/2012 12:05:57 PM PST by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: OPS4

Well, they DID ask for it (sort of).

According to www.catholicnews.com, Barack Obama enjoyed the support of 54% of Catholic voters in 2008, a bit higher than he received from the country as a whole (52%).


9 posted on 01/30/2012 12:07:23 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: BillyBoy
I’d also like to know what happened to the “transition plan” that Fr. Pfleger promised to present to the Archdiocese of Chicago “by the end of the year” in 2011

George W. Bush probably stole it, just like he did with Barack Obama's proposed FY2010, FY2011, FY2012 and FY2013 budgets...

10 posted on 01/30/2012 12:12:11 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25% MORE sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: BillyBoy; OPS4; NYer; Salvation; Chi-townChief

It was not read at my small South Ga parish. But I have forwarded it to many in the church and emailed my Priest and Deacon if I can expect to hear it next week. I will see our Priest face to face Wednesday and this will be brought up.


11 posted on 01/30/2012 12:12:29 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: BillyBoy

Our priests in NC read the letter, but I got the impression it wasn’t a mandated thing - Father decided it was worth spending a homily on, and the congregation applauded when he was finished (those who believe in clapping in church, anyway). Of course it would be up to the individual bishop to require it anyway.


12 posted on 01/30/2012 12:13:10 PM PST by RygelXVI
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To: kidd

Not in my parish...this is the first I’m hearing of this.”

You’ve hit the nail on the head! Too much “ecclesiastical freelancing” on the part of individual priests and the “higher ups” in the Catholic clergy. The “radical priests” don’t get eliminated. It’s the same thing with the Mormons. Romney and Reid get a pass on their blatant disregard for that church’s basic teachings. Oh well, so much for “organized religion.” It’s devolved into “The God Busniess.” Money and political clout trump theology every time. Just have to wonder what The Lord thinks of all of it.


13 posted on 01/30/2012 12:13:52 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: WayneS

Ah, the expected conclusions of a belief in works-based salvation...

of course, the promise of the credit for “doing” good works without actually personally sacrificing anything, ie, through using the government to tax the other guy to do “your” good works,

is appealing to liberals of all stripes.


14 posted on 01/30/2012 12:14:55 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: WayneS

Vatican II and its liberalizations did some horrible things to the Church and the membership. Of those who reject it, I can assure you not a one of us voted for the obamanation.


15 posted on 01/30/2012 12:15:42 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: WayneS
According to www.catholicnews.com, Barack Obama enjoyed the support of 54% of Catholic voters in 2008, a bit higher than he received from the country as a whole (52%).

Unfortunately about half that population is lapsed and half is active. Churchgoing Catholics lean conservative.

16 posted on 01/30/2012 12:16:16 PM PST by RygelXVI
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To: WayneS
Barack Obama enjoyed the support of 54% of Catholic voters in 2008

But only 49% of weekly church-going Catholic voters (http://spectator.org/archives/2011/04/25/obama-faces-hard-times-with-ca) - and I'll bet considerable lower among Catholic voters who go every week to a parish that actually preaches Catholic beliefs (not St. Kumbaya).

17 posted on 01/30/2012 12:21:17 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: vette6387

The letter is featured prominantly on the Archdiocese of Hartford website, but I did not see any kind of mandate that parish priests read or provide it to parishoners.

Archbishop Mansell has mandated that other messages be read to parishoners in the past. Perhaps he will in the future...the letter states:

“The Dioceses of Bridgeport and Norwich, as well as the Ukrainian Diocese of Stamford, will be joining us in the Archdiocese of Hartford as we mount a campaign against this horrific development.”

I think I’ll write a note to the archdiocese, suggesting that this letter SHALL be read to parishoners.


18 posted on 01/30/2012 12:31:11 PM PST by kidd
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To: OPS4

Obama picking a fight with the Vatican; does anyone know where I can get a bet down?


19 posted on 01/30/2012 12:36:27 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: jafojeffsurf; RygelXVI; Chi-townChief
I found out a few days before Sunday that the letter was going to be read on Sunday... someone at my parish told me the bishop had instructed all Catholic priests in the Eparchy of Parma that the letter must be read aloud on Sunday. My pastor would have probably done so anyway -- with or without the mandate -- as my pastor is very outspoken about following church teachings on being pro-life. He integrated the letter into his homily about the Pharisees quite well.

When I visited my parent's house, they never heard of the letter. The first time they noticed it was in the bulletin I brought from my parish. I assumed that my diocese bishop must have specifically written the letter just for the Eparchy of Parma.

Now comes this article on FR saying all Catholic bishops in the U.S. were supposed to send out a variation of that letter. I wonder how many of them actually did so? Especially since the Archdiocese of Chicago is one of the biggest of the country and in the heart of Obama's power base.

20 posted on 01/30/2012 12:45:11 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: kidd

Done.

If any Freeper wishes to contact their Archbishop, remember:

Addressing a letter: Most Reverend N______N ____,Archbishop
of ___________
Salutation: Your Excellency:
Concluding a letter: Asking Your Excellency’s blessing, I am, Yours respectfully in Christ, N.


21 posted on 01/30/2012 12:49:45 PM PST by kidd
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To: denydenydeny
It's possible that he's just doing this to prove to his base that he means well, and will back down if necessary. But he may figure that the percentage of voters who will decide their vote on this issue is too small to worry about.

Even among the bishops, if Obama paints the election as between helping the poor and being nice to illegal aliens (himself) and helping the rich and being mean to illegals (the Republicans), he could get a lot of their votes despite this issue.

In my parish the bishop's letter (almost identical to the one from the Bishop of Phoenix posted here a couple of days ago) was included as an insert in the bulletin, and part of the sermon was about it, although it wasn't read out in its entirety. Maybe the assumption was that we can read.

22 posted on 01/30/2012 12:56:50 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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23 posted on 01/30/2012 1:12:58 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: OPS4

The Church will not do what it regards as killing. That is nether hard to understand nor hard to accept.

Thou out American history it has always been perfectly acceptable. Only totalitarians like Obama have a problem with that.


24 posted on 01/30/2012 1:13:31 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: WayneS

I am a Catholic and BO didn’t get my vote nor will he ever get my vote. I consider him Mr. Evil. I do have Catholic friends who were sucked in and voted for him. I think regular Catholics are going to have to make a decision on just who they are going to follow the Catholic church or BO and his evil liberal liars.


25 posted on 01/30/2012 1:13:58 PM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Maryhere

Don’t for one minute rely on all Catholics to vote Republican or pro-life. My MIL has regularly endorsed Democrats, laughs at gays, even advised her daughter to go on the Pill. Voted for Obama and concvinced all of her crony friends to do the same.

Liberal Catholics are all around us — and they could care less about what the Church says about anything. Oh, but they go to Mass, every week, sometimes daily.

We’ve tried to have conversations with her about her voting habits ... she is convinced Republicans are entirely evil ...even though we tell her all about abortion, Planned Parenthood, etc.

SOMEONE did a number of these types of people a long time ago ... they don’t even think straight.


26 posted on 01/30/2012 1:21:45 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: LibsRJerks

Doesn’t anyone see what this is? Its not an attack on religion. If the Catholic Church disagrees with the mandated policy and no longer provides medical coverage to its employees, where will the employees be forced to go for coverage? Why the federal gov’t, of course!


27 posted on 01/30/2012 1:54:01 PM PST by cumbo78
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To: musicman

Unfortunately, this train left the station 40 years ago, and the Catholic bishops and the entire Protestant “church” missed it. Now they are trying to rally an army that no longer exists.


28 posted on 01/30/2012 4:00:16 PM PST by schmootman
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29 posted on 01/30/2012 4:43:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: OPS4
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS
Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict

Speak honestly: abortion is ‘the killing of tiny human beings in the womb’ – Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For ‘Assertive Action’ to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate
Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMA’S CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors’ group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say

30 posted on 01/30/2012 5:08:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MrB

Your work in violating the Eighth Commandment will be duly rewarded during your particular judgment.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 5:43:04 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: LibsRJerks

Remind your mother-in-law that eternity is forever.


32 posted on 01/30/2012 5:49:17 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: kidd
Archbishop Mansell has mandated that other messages be read to parishoners in the past. Perhaps he will in the future...the letter states:

I am sorry that you ended up with ole Hank, but I was thrilled to see him removed from my old stomping grounds. He has got to be getting close to retirement isn't he.

Of course now here in Va I am stuck with DeLorenzo who is almost as bad.

33 posted on 01/30/2012 6:31:51 PM PST by verga (Only the ignorant disdain intelligence.)
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To: OPS4

Now they need to go further and explicitly tell the congregation not to vote for this murderous B@$T@RD.


34 posted on 01/30/2012 6:37:49 PM PST by verga (Only the ignorant disdain intelligence.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Obama picking a fight with the Vatican...

How many divisions does the Pope have?

35 posted on 01/30/2012 7:36:17 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Maryhere
I spoke to a practicing Catholic family that voted for Obama asking them why they voted for him because of his stance on abortion. They told me that they know about Obama's stance on abortion, but they will pray for him so that he changes his views.

What hypocrites, are they so blind that they would go against their church's principle values in order to elect the "evil emperor?"

Wonder what will happen if we have no choice in the next election. Romney is a pro-choicer. I'm about to write the Republic National Committee and tell them that if Romney runs against Obama, I can not in good conscience vote for him. If all the Catholics in this country wrote the RNC, do you think they would get the message? Or, are they so arrogant that it will make no difference.

36 posted on 01/30/2012 7:54:05 PM PST by mia
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To: cumbo78; Maryhere
from Maryhere in #25 :
" . . . Catholics are going to have to make a decision on just who they are going to follow the Catholic church or BO and his evil liberal liars."
from cumbo78 in #27:
" . . . where will the employees be forced to go for coverage? Why the federal gov’t, of course!"

Cumbo78 hit the nail on the head as far as the goal of the policy, but the point Maryhere makes is the the real reason we're hearing about this and having it come to the fore so early in the election season. They could easily have gone about this differently, and if they had been working hard political calculus they would have gone about it differently.

Announcing this before the election doesn't gain them a thing among their non-Catholic supporters and is sure to cost them votes in the election as well as probably costing them some number of workers during the campaign. However, we're dealing with a narcissist who will gloat over each and every Catholic who publicly supports him, every single percentage point of Catholic support any survey shows him retaining, and every single Catholic vote he gets on election day even if that is millions fewer votes than he got in 2008. While a politician would have made sure this wasn't out until after the election even to the point of having it officially "still under consideration" in case anyone found out about it before the election, a narcissist wants to make it clear to Catholics that they have to decide between him and the Pope.

Barry is a narcissist who dwells in his own world and is dedicated to his own radical agenda, an agenda shaped in part by twenty years of anti-American, anti-Jewish, and anti-Catholic hatred spewed by Rev. Wright each and every Sunday. Accordingly, Barry believes that by having the Catholic Church directly confronting him the Catholic votes he loses will be more than offset by the anti-Catholic votes he gains. Remember, Barry believes the ignorant Christians are clinging to their God and their guns, which fits right in with those same folks also clinging either to the Pope or to the "anti-Papist" sermons they must hear frequently at their Church. The main thing, though, is that Barry wants to gloat over how many Catholics listen to him rather than the Pope. It feeds his ego and helps keep his opinion that he is Christ like well inflated.

It's also a pretty good indication that there isn't anyone around him puts pragmatism ahead of of their socialist agenda.

It's predictable. It's what narcissists do, put what feeds their ego and strengthens the bubble they live in ahead of all else.

JMHO

37 posted on 01/30/2012 9:09:53 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: BillyBoy

Sadly, the letter wasn’t read in my church either.

Maybe our best bet is to write a letter to our bishops respectfully asking if it will eventually be read in our diocese.


38 posted on 01/31/2012 1:08:25 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Martin Tell

Are you counting voters? The Vatican can probably muster quite a few if the Kenyan wants a fight.


39 posted on 01/31/2012 2:20:13 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: RygelXVI
and the congregation applauded when he was finished (those who believe in clapping in church, anyway)

People clap in my church, I hate it, it just seems so undignified.

40 posted on 01/31/2012 4:42:45 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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41 posted on 01/31/2012 5:19:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: BillyBoy

Billy Boy !

There’s a range of actions; this is not a cohesive effort (yet?) thru the USCCB. Some bishops issued press statements and posted on their website. Some went farther and ordered their statements read by the priests in their dioceses at Mass. Some have not done anything yet. From what I can see, Cardinal George is in the last category.

Take a look at this to get a broader view of what’s happening with bishops:

http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=25591


42 posted on 02/01/2012 8:10:08 PM PST by baa39
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To: OPS4

Have you ever seen an angry Irish Catholic???

(I have, not good times.....Obama’s taken on the wrong people....and this may well completely sink him.)


43 posted on 02/01/2012 8:14:01 PM PST by nicmarlo
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